Time Nick Message 01:55 indradg__ wizzyrea: around? 01:55 wizzyrea ya, sup 01:56 indradg__ I was testing bug 14186, found the qa tools failing on a tab char. 01:56 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14186 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Failed QA , Noisy warns in opac-reserve.pl 01:57 indradg__ so posted http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14186#c4 01:57 huginn` 04Bug 14186: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleishaamohia, Failed QA , Noisy warns in opac-reserve.pl 01:57 wizzyrea yeah that's fine 01:57 indradg__ then I cleared out the tab and ready to upload the patch to bz 01:58 indradg__ wizzyrea: here's the question... since I corrected it, I shouldn't do the sign off? or can i? 01:58 wizzyrea that is a pretty minor thing, I'd just fix it or make it a follow up 01:58 wizzyrea or aleisha can, up to you I reckon 01:59 indradg__ ok... i know its minor... but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something "not done"... made a mess on my first day signing off 02:00 indradg__ so just being cautious :) 02:03 wizzyrea oh, everything is fixable ;) 02:18 eythian http://cdnmo.coveritlive.com/media/image/201505/phpdmpchJ11046777_10153798628134045_7360265436983184026_n.jpg <-- cdickinson 02:18 cdickinson oh my god 02:19 wizzyrea crazy wet here 02:21 BobB eythian I hope that's not the catalyst data centre :) 02:21 wizzyrea lol no 02:21 wizzyrea that's the train station 02:21 BobB hmm, trains might be late 02:22 BobB sure is a lot of water 02:22 wizzyrea trains are cancelled, the station is closed 02:23 cdickinson both the main highways out of Wellington are congested and partially closed 02:23 eythian https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11167793_10153777309538238_8354168079518338976_n.jpg?oh=96c3d6af907629fc95c6937758f1f7eb&oe=56062F97&__gda__=1443649950_1e7623a9cb2b61920a08662cd268fad5 <-- BobB, the multistorey building in the background is the catalyst data centre. 02:23 cdickinson only way to really get out of Wellington is to use local access roads 02:24 wizzyrea or ferry, or air :P 02:26 BobB wow, awesome 04:36 mtompset Have a great day, #koha (bug 14076 for an easy sign off ;) ) 04:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14076 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Noisy warns in opac-authorities-home.pl 04:47 mtj_ hey #koha, i think i embedded a unicode character into a pdf, last nite 04:48 mtj_ which was a bit surprising, as i thought it was impossible(ish) 04:49 mtj_ this was the char i was experimenting with... 04:49 mtj_ http://unicodelookup.com/#誦 04:51 mtj_ i pasted in into a LO spreadsheet file, then exported a pdf - and there it was?! 04:51 mtj_ http://gw1.kohaaloha.com/pub/pdf/b.ods 04:51 mtj_ http://gw1.kohaaloha.com/pub/pdf/b.pdf 04:52 eythian oh, you did it from openoffice 04:52 eythian I think it'll embed the fonts it needs in there 04:52 eythian it's totally possible to put unicode in PDF, otherwise it would have died out years ago. 04:52 mtj_ hmm, actually it was OO, not LO.. yeah 04:53 eythian OO/LO, whichever :) 04:53 mtj_ heres the weird thing eythian... i was expecting to see some embedded fonts in the pdf - but there was not any 04:54 eythian /Type/FontDescriptor/FontName/CAAAAA+SimSun 04:55 eythian I don't know enough to tell if it's embedded, or if it's extracted just one character out, or something else though 04:56 mtj_ ah, i missed that ^ :) 04:56 mtj_ simsun might be a chinese ttf font :) 04:56 eythian it is 04:59 mtj_ ta 04:59 mtj_ i wonder how the unicode to ttf magic happens 05:00 eythian I don't know the details, but fonts contain a list of the characters they have, so a program finds the closest (ideally) font that has a matching character. 05:03 mtj_ hmm, yeah.. makes sense 05:04 mtj_ i was thinking that utf to ttf mapping is probably a bit fuzzy 05:06 mtj_ i wonder if LO/OO uses a separate library to do that stuff 05:08 eythian I expect there are system libraries for that. Maybe it's what things like fontconfig or defoma do. 05:09 eythian yeah, I think it's exactly what fontconfig does 05:25 mtj_ nice eythian 05:30 mtj_ i think it gives koha some possible solution for the 'labels.pdf wont display utf chars' bug 05:31 eythian yeah, it's totally possible to do, I think it's whether the stuff we use can actually do it. 05:35 mtj_ i guess the other catch is, the koha server would need a bunch of ttf fonts installed too 05:35 mtj_ ..so it can embed them into the pdf 05:36 eythian yep 05:41 mtj_ the other option might be to dump the label rows to a csv file - then let LO's label writer tool, do the rest 05:41 mtj_ ..not perfect, but better that a corrupt pdf file 05:43 mtj_ anyhoo... its nice to realise there are some options :0) 05:45 mtj_ hey eythian, exciting news re: your hackrf board too 05:45 eythian yeah :) going to have to do some playing with it in the weekend 05:46 eythian yay, 3.20.00-beta packages built with no screwing around, that's always pleasant. 05:46 mtj_ you got an earlier board last year huh? 05:47 eythian I got a $10 dongle that's well worth the price, but limited in many ways. 05:47 eythian Also, the new one can transmit as well 05:47 mtj_ oh hum, i need to add those jessie patches to 3.16 branch too :/ 05:48 mtj_ woah, do you have any info on the dongle? 05:49 eythian https://nicegear.co.nz/electronics-gear/software-defined-radio-receiver-usb-stick-rtl2832-wr820t/ 05:49 eythian you can find it cheaper, but you probably can't find it cheaper and get it sent in a day :) 05:51 mtj_ bookmarked :p 05:52 eythian 3.20.00-beta uploading 06:04 mtj_ hey eythian, i just pushed the jessie patch to 3.16 06:04 mtj_ bug 13979 06:04 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13979 major, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Packages uninstallable on Debian Jessie 06:04 mtj_ ..were there any other jessie patches/problems, you were aware of? 06:58 saa i am trying to install koha on centos 7 when i download centos yaz and idzebra it throws dependency error 06:59 saa hw do i install idzebra and yaz which versions need tobe downloaded which will work fine on centos 7 07:33 BobB doh, missed him/her 07:51 indradg good afternoon #koha 07:51 indradg hope friends in Wellington are all safe and dry 08:29 jermany why cant i aceess koha-common_3.18.06.3_all.deb ? 08:30 jermany timeout error 08:30 jermany http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/pool/main/k/koha/ 09:16 slef jermany: worksforme 09:24 slef Has anyone here had experience of UCBrowser (Symbian mobile phone browser, OperaMini-like) using a koha intranet interface? 09:33 indradg @wunder kolkata 09:33 huginn` indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 37.0°C (2:50 PM IST on May 14, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 10:26 vfernandes hi :) 10:27 vfernandes it's possible to export record data in the command line? 10:38 jermany Failed to fetch http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/pool/main/k/koha/koha-common_3.18.06.3_all.deb Connection failed 11:56 * cait waves 12:05 * ashimema waves back 12:08 cait :) 12:08 cait no tcohen? 12:36 tcohen morning! 13:02 tcohen @seen cait 13:02 huginn` tcohen: cait was last seen in #koha 54 minutes and 24 seconds ago: <cait> no tcohen? 13:24 ashimema :0 13:33 tcohen hi ashimema 13:33 tcohen whatsup? 13:54 cait i am here 13:54 cait eating late lunch 13:54 cait tcohen? :) 13:55 tcohen hi there 13:55 wahanui bidet, tcohen 13:55 * cait waves 14:05 indradg @seen nengard 14:05 huginn` indradg: nengard was last seen in #koha 2 days, 16 hours, 15 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <nengard> hmmm 14:06 indradg hi cait, tcohen 14:07 tcohen hi indradg, busy testing stuff? 14:07 tcohen indradg++ 14:08 nengard hi 14:08 indradg :) guess it was high time I started doing something useful... not that I'm going after the tougher ones yet 14:08 indradg getting my feet wet first 14:08 nengard indradg, sure we can add a credits section to the manual 14:08 nengard I usually credit the person who wrote the section in the XML - but i'm open to whatever 14:09 indradg cool! 14:09 nengard you can see it here: http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/3.18/en/html-desktop/#oclckohasetup 14:09 indradg nengard: i wanted to discuss bug 11115 with you. i was thinking of working on it 14:09 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11115 new feature, P5 - low, ---, indradg, NEW , Pull help files from the manual 14:10 nengard cool 14:11 indradg couple of days back I came across a few cases in India, where internet connectivity is intermittent. So the help links to online manual does not really help them much 14:12 nengard yeah, and I do copy the manual text to the help files before each release - but the help files aren't as good as the manual 14:12 indradg I mirrored it locally for them... but then its not linked against actual pages or features in the Koha UI 14:12 indradg so they were asking if I could integrate that... and then I come upon your bug 14:14 nengard Hey if you can figure it out that would be great - but I'm not sure how you could do it without the good internet connection 14:14 indradg nengard: what i am thinking is shipping the manual along with the koha source, and linked against the help hooks 14:14 indradg it would mean kohadocs.deb 14:14 nengard oh okay 14:18 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11006: DBRev 3.19.00.040 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae5d6d46dedd2b375a18b1a18850493420a3080a> / Bug 11006: Drop column aqorders.totalamount <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a71a2cb9b603e015d0d1d60118e3d9bba3e994e1> / Bug 14147: Add unit tests to C4::External::OverDrive <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=64b6df43c9cfc867a 14:22 * barton waves the "I'm going to ask a question, but I havn't said good morning to everybody, and I don't want to be crass" wave :-) 14:23 cait lol 14:23 cait just ask? 14:23 barton yeah, I'm 'bout to :-) 14:25 indradg hi barton 14:27 barton one of our partners is reporting that after their 3.18 upgrade, they're no longer getting an audible alert when a hold is trapped, or an item is transferred. I'm trying to figure out where to look to see if something changed. 14:28 barton I don't know what actually triggers the audible alert, so I don't have anything to grep for. 14:28 barton morning indradg :-) 14:29 cait barton: there is a system prefernece 14:29 cait soundson or similar 14:29 barton and that would probably be in one of the circ '.tt' files, I'm guessing? 14:36 cait if you find the name of the pref 14:36 cait you can do a git grep to look for it 14:37 cait or even search for it on git.kc 14:45 indradg it is 'soundon' (default is disabled) under circ prefs 14:45 indradg barton ^^ as cait said 14:46 indradg @seen bgkriegel 14:46 huginn` indradg: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 40 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> :) 14:46 indradg bgkriegel: ping 14:47 bgkriegel sorry, here 14:48 Krixvar Hey all, having some trouble with the create_koc_db.pl script for the offline client, something to do with Context.pm it seems 14:49 barton thanks cait, indradg -- that definitely helps! 14:50 indradg :) 14:51 indradg Krixvar: can you paste the 'trouble' here ? paste.koha-community.org 14:51 pastebot "krixvar" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "create_koc_db.pl" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/107 14:52 Krixvar I was having issues with it even starting before because it couldn't find Context.pm, but I read online to copy the koha scripts folder to the perl folder and it fixed that 14:53 cait hm don't copy the files around 14:53 cait it probably means that your environment variables are ont set 14:53 Krixvar yeah that seemed like a pretty sketchy fix to me 14:53 cait are you using packages? 14:53 Krixvar yeah 14:53 cait so look for the koha-shell 14:54 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-shell 14:54 cait start the koha-shell for your instance 14:54 cait and then try again to create the files 14:55 Krixvar oh cool I hadtn't seen that one before 14:57 Krixvar hmm still erroring, one sec on a paste 14:57 pastebot "krixvar" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "create_koc_db.pl" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/108 14:57 cait hm 14:57 Krixvar would I have to be root to run it once I'm in that shell? 14:58 cait hm no 14:58 Krixvar okay cool, it moved me to an account I didn't recall setting up so I didn't know the password anyways haha 14:58 cait yeah, you are now the user for yur instance 14:58 Krixvar right 14:59 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13423: Fix number of tests in Serials.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a072260bf64f46e922bdb6a05b2f6dac605d3c60> / Bug 13423: Remove unused serials-recieve <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=65b7ad030cd5cd0e3148fbbd1496d31b5cf149f7> / Bug 13423: Remove unused JS function in serials-edit.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b 14:59 cait khall: around? 14:59 khall what's up? 15:00 cait Krixvar is trying to generate the koc files 15:00 cait and i am not sure what the problem is :) 15:01 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/107 15:01 khall Krixvar: looks like permissions issue, 15:01 Krixvar hmm 15:01 khall you are trying to create the file in /usr/share/koha/ which is owned by root 15:01 Krixvar oh yeah that could be an issue 15:02 khall I believe there is a switch to specificy a file and path 15:02 Krixvar hmm not seeing it unless --file lets you specify an entire path as well 15:02 khall yes try it with —file /tmp/koc.db 15:03 Krixvar same error 15:03 Krixvar didn't work in home directory either 15:04 khall let me look at the script 15:04 Krixvar the error is saying unable to open database file, is that possibly the main koha one its not able to open before it even tries to create another one? 15:06 khall create_koc_db.pl --sqlite3 --file /tmp/test.koc 15:06 khall ^ this worked for me 15:06 khall can you write to tmp? 15:07 khall try 'touch /tmp/test' from the command line 15:07 Krixvar oh that worked 15:07 Krixvar apparently I had --sqlite3 rather than -sqlite3 15:07 Krixvar thanks! 15:07 khall np! 15:08 Krixvar probably be back in a few as I continue trying to iron out all these little things in our setup haha 15:09 cait khall++ 15:19 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14132: DBRev 3.19.00.041 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e90917217de2499bc68a3a32fdd4c6c678f78538> / Bug 14132: suggestions table is missing indexes - atomicupdate <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=06017781ae19100673fb4f8ced6da793d424dcb4> / Bug 14132: suggestions table is missing indexes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cc 15:19 tcohen mtompset++ 15:24 tcohen hey #koha, i want to find all those blockers *this* week 15:25 tcohen so we fix them on time for the release 15:25 tcohen please test! 15:26 indradg yay! my first sign-off makes it into the master! tcohen i feel like an anesthetist in a delivery room :D 15:28 tcohen :-D 15:28 tcohen those sadists 15:29 tcohen *people opening other people's bodies 15:29 indradg :) 15:31 cait bug 14072 - pleaase? :) 15:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Update German web installer for 3.20 15:39 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10235: Add DataTables filters on local use prefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd8ac6f3cde3fa3b1e4ccf566334220c8cf39ce1> / Bug 9067: Fix space error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69e4e4100ae49ea3f06ddbc219f59693b7249074> / Bug 9067: Hide item related strings when importing staged authority records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=c 16:11 DisneyDave hello! 16:11 DisneyDave I need some help - my koha site is live but there are no search results 16:12 DisneyDave I believe I need to run this command "sudo koha-create-dirs mylibrary " Does this sound correct? 16:12 ashimema Is it a package install? 16:13 ashimema Have you made sure zebra is running 16:17 DisneyDave Hello! I am not sure what we used to install. How can I make sure zebra is running? 16:17 DisneyDave Sorry I am non tech 16:17 DisneyDave I use SSH to connect 16:18 DisneyDave Iuse ubuntu 16:20 indradg cait: german is de-DE ? 16:20 cait indradg: yes - deutsch 16:20 indradg ok 16:23 DisneyDave I should mention this was not a new install. For some reason the search results just stopped today 16:23 DisneyDave I have restarted thru SSH but still no search results 16:24 DisneyDave I restarted mysql but this has not affected the results 16:24 DisneyDave I have to execute that library command unless it is the right one 16:25 DisneyDave MISTYPE: I hate to execute that koha-create-dirs my library" unless it is the correct one 16:25 DisneyDave Thank you for any help ashimema 16:29 DisneyDave Should I use this command to check if zebra is running? ps aux | grep zebra 16:31 DisneyDave ashimema, will this command tell me if zebra is running? ps aux | grep zebra 16:36 DisneyDave zebra and koha are both running 16:56 indradg cait: the deutsch installer does not offer the UNIMARC option...does it? 16:56 cait no 16:56 cait UNIMARC isn't used around here - and we didn't translate the frameworks 16:57 indradg ok 16:58 indradg my wife demanded to know why the heck I was fiddling with german Koha :) 16:58 cait oh :) 16:58 cait because you are a nice person doing me a favor? :) 17:01 bgkriegel Mmmm, bug 14072 17:01 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Update German web installer for 3.20 17:02 cait mm? hi bgkriegel :) 17:02 cait nice to see you! 17:02 bgkriegel Hi cait :) It's signed 17:02 cait thx! indradg++ bgkriegel++ 17:03 DisneyDave Thank you all for your work on Koha. Just took Nicole and a few to the Magic Kingdom Tuesday night. :) 17:05 DisneyDave Apparently this is the right command I need to enter: sudo koha-create-dirs 17:06 DisneyDave BUT it is not mylibrary .. .does anyone know how I can find out where the correct file name? Zebra and koha are running but searches are empty 17:06 cait hm koha-list maybe 17:06 cait to see all he instances 17:10 bgkriegel DisneyDave: have you reindexed? koha-rebuild-zebra -v -f <instance> 17:12 DisneyDave Thank you bgkriegel. Zebra and koha are running so I will try that. 17:20 indradg cait: done :) 17:29 wnickc is apostrophes in keyword search a known but 17:29 wnickc dont and don't produce different result sets 17:29 wnickc known bug 17:31 DisneyDave Hi Nicole! 17:39 tcohen cait: i don't think 14072 is elegible for 3.20 17:39 cait bug 14072 17:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Update German web installer for 3.20 17:40 tcohen just kidding :-P 17:40 cait heh 17:40 cait i was goingto ask you what i needed to bribe you with :) 17:41 tcohen speaking of which... 17:41 tcohen i love some hard cookies you know 17:43 cait heh 17:45 tcohen hazelnut cookies 17:59 tcohen back 17:59 cait i understand :) 17:59 tcohen those hard ones 17:59 cait yes yes 17:59 tcohen short sticks 18:00 tcohen :-P 18:15 tcohen nick clemens? 18:16 * wnickc waves 18:16 tcohen is that you¿ 18:16 wnickc tcohen: yup 18:16 tcohen did u get an email from Chris saying a regression was introduced? 18:17 wnickc the jenkins emails? 18:17 tcohen yup 18:17 tcohen you broke something :-D 18:17 wnickc eep 18:17 tcohen this commit dedd059ac006eefb9eb89c28dc3581ccaaf71098 18:17 tcohen broke t/db_dependent/Labels/t_Batch.t 18:17 tcohen could you please take a look? 18:18 wnickc I will do my best 18:18 tcohen great 18:18 tcohen let me know if you get stuck or something 18:18 tcohen i'll be checking another issues 18:18 wnickc alright 18:19 tcohen you probably changed the API of C4::Labels::Batch->retrieve 18:19 tcohen and our tests found it 18:21 wnickc :( 18:21 tcohen it might be just side effects, though 18:31 * tcohen has to run 18:31 tcohen later! 18:31 cait later:) 18:35 wnickc aw, I missed him 18:36 wnickc cait: can you provide assistance? 18:36 cait hm probably not 18:36 wnickc hah 18:36 wnickc tcohen said I broke t/db_dependent/Labels/t_Batch.t 18:36 wnickc but it is passing for me 18:36 cait ah hm 18:37 cait maybe try it on an empty database with only the samle data installed 18:37 cait it might be a data issue 18:37 cait or look at the data that is needed for hte test to pass 18:37 wnickc ah, thanks, first time breaking koha 18:47 bgkriegel wnickc: also pass for me, new db, sample data and a few books 18:47 cait hm 18:48 wnickc thanks bgkriegel 18:49 bgkriegel :( 18:49 bgkriegel Sorry, I'm wrong. Need to do a pull first, then failure 18:51 wnickc looking at the test I have supsicions, working on geting a clean db 18:52 bgkriegel i'll look later, need to run. Bye :) 19:47 wnickc tcohen: I found it, do I submit a follow up patch to the bug? 19:48 wnickc or a new bug? 19:48 wahanui a new bug is probably preferrable 19:49 wnickc tests broke because batch_id changes after items are added but variable is set before items are added 19:50 indradg tcohen: a very trivial string patch - bug 14203 19:50 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14203 trivial, P5 - low, ---, indradg, Needs Signoff , koha-translate error string for non-existent lang removal 21:10 indradg @wunder kolkata 21:11 huginn` indradg: The current temperature in Kolkata, India is 30.0°C (2:20 AM IST on May 15, 2015). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 21:59 ORLANDO-PERU hOLA 21:59 wahanui hola, ORLANDO-PERU 22:00 ORLANDO-PERU hola 22:02 * Orlando-PERU slaps wahanui around a bit with a large fishbot 22:02 * Orlando-PERU slaps Orlando-PERU around a bit with a large fishbot 22:02 wizzyrea really? 22:03 wizzyrea is that necessary? 22:27 * wizzyrea does not have a lot of patience for trout slapping. 22:39 ibeardslee wizzyrea: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/490112915/little-free-librarys-big-book-access-project 22:40 wizzyrea ooo 22:40 wizzyrea ibeardslee++ 22:40 wizzyrea I'd really like to put one of these in Lyall Bay somewhere. Not sure where though. 22:41 wizzyrea near my house isn't really practical. 22:44 ibeardslee somewhere near that big shopping complex with the warehouse etc 22:44 ibeardslee maxiumum(ish) exposure 22:44 ibeardslee maximum(ish) exposure 22:51 wizzyrea Yeah or near Maranui 22:51 wizzyrea I bet the maranui people would go along with it 22:51 wizzyrea a book and a coffee at maranui - sounds perfect to me. 22:51 ibeardslee true 22:52 wizzyrea or fish n chips from seaview and a book? greasy, but lovely I think. 22:55 ibeardslee I wonder if putting them into cafes would be the way to kick some of that off 23:06 wizzyrea hm, could be 23:06 wizzyrea they might feel overly responsible for them, which might be annoying 23:06 wizzyrea for the cafe owners 23:56 BobB hi