Time Nick Message 22:02 wizzyrea hi 22:00 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13413 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Koha::Log - an attempt to have sane logging in Koha 22:00 eythian ashimema: see also bug 13413 21:59 wahanui que tal, eythian 21:59 eythian hi 21:28 TGoat thanks for the quick response mtompset! 21:27 TGoat yea right .. who wants the headache. We tried to install it on CentOS at the library I worked at but we stopped shortly there after. Just not worth it 21:26 mtompset TGoat, it is possible to do Koha on CentOS and RedHat... please don't take on the headache. 21:25 TGoat I had someone asking about CentOS and RedHat and though I was sure I still had to ask 21:25 TGoat thansk .. 21:25 tcohen TGoat: it is! 21:25 mtompset Yes, TGoat. The server is natively on Debian. 21:25 tcohen i think it is a fair requirement 'a modern browser' for running an ILS 21:24 TGoat hey #koha .. is debian koha's native environment? 21:24 tcohen mtompset: that's actually not an issue 21:23 mtompset Because not all browsers support the HTML media functions like they should. 21:23 mtompset The largest problem with a client side solution right now is the "don't use flash". 21:19 mtompset It meets the criteria of no flash. ;) 21:18 tcohen mtompset: it is always awesome when you conceive an idea and you find you implemented the way you liked it 21:17 mtompset But I am still pleased with my server solution. :) 21:17 tcohen or flash 21:17 tcohen specially robin 21:16 tcohen mtompset: that's right, it is a client side thing. And should not depend on any superhero 21:16 cait :) 21:15 tcohen and next week, we'll start talking about the fun stuff: ES, REST api, Angular, plack, etc 21:15 tcohen unless we sorted all important bits by then 21:14 tcohen it will probably be 3.20-only 21:14 tcohen mtompset: i'll schedule a dev meeting for next wednesday 21:14 mtompset My patch is a server side solution. 21:14 mtompset My understanding of 6815 is that a client-side solution is prefered. 21:13 indradg ok! 21:13 tcohen the only problem was translations, because it was (in mtompset words) poorly coded 21:13 tcohen indradg: i'm not working on it right now, I was using a javascript-only implementation using photobooth.js or something like that 21:12 tcohen great 21:11 rangi tcohen: yep its up to date 21:11 tcohen rangi: thanks! 21:07 rangi tcohen: and history was up to date a month ago, ill check now 21:07 cait :) 21:07 rangi tcohen: is there anything you would like aleisha to look at before the release? 21:07 indradg morning rangi 21:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6815 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Capture member photo via webcam 21:07 indradg tcohen: I see that bug 6815 is assigned to you. any update on that or should I go ahead and test the available patch? 21:07 rangi morning 21:03 mtompset welcome back, tcohen. :) 21:02 huginn` indradg: The operation succeeded. 21:02 indradg @later tell nengard do you think it is a good idea to have a section in the manual - "Authors and other credited contributors"? 20:58 huginn` indradg: nengard was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 8 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <nengard> hmmm 20:58 indradg @seen nengard 20:53 indradg cait: +1 20:51 cait with contributors? 20:51 cait maybe we could add a page to the manual? 20:43 wahanui I know. 20:43 tcohen that's right 20:43 indradg tcohen: traditionally, accepted patches to the Koha manual do not get a reference in the release notes (not being part of the code).. do they? 20:39 tcohen hi indradg 20:38 indradg hi tcohen 20:35 tcohen hi cait 20:33 cait wb tcohen 20:29 wahanui hola, tcohen 20:29 tcohen hi there 19:13 cait bye tcohen :) 19:11 tcohen bye #koha 19:11 tcohen :-P 19:11 tcohen mtompset: you should ask the Release Manager that question 19:05 mtompset When's the next dev meeting? 18:57 tcohen mtompset: it is not *that* big deal 18:56 mtompset Or better yet... 5.0, because it is huge. ;) 18:56 tcohen we have several of those on the pipe 18:56 mtompset Sounds like a 4.0 worthy change. ;) 18:56 mtompset That's a big endeavour. 18:56 tcohen sort-of 18:56 tcohen my plan is to get rid of searchResults 18:55 mtompset Where did you hook it? 18:55 tcohen so i'll be thinking on where to hook it in a couple weeks 18:55 tcohen i have a working filter that does the same, but for MARCXML data 18:55 mtompset You don't like it hooked in GetMarcBiblio? 18:55 tcohen having the filter will be a great start 18:55 mtompset No. It's important. I need to get this into master somehow. 18:54 tcohen maybe don't worry about it right now? 18:54 tcohen ah 18:54 tcohen look at Koha/Filter/MARC/EmbbedSeeFromHeading.pm 18:54 mtompset The issue is WHERE to hook. 18:54 mtompset I think that's a reasonable idea. 18:54 mtompset That's not the issue. ;) 18:53 tcohen " 18:53 tcohen "Implement it as a Koha::RecordProcessor filter on MARC records 18:53 tcohen while i set a date, please think about this 18:53 mtompset Okay, when is good for you? 18:53 tcohen sure 18:52 mtompset Care to schedule it like a meeting? :) 18:52 tcohen mtompset: no chances! 18:43 ashimema awesome 18:42 mtompset tcohen: Will we get to that chat at all today? :) 18:39 * tcohen will give his new laptop+gift_from_the_community its first use, creating that followup :-D 18:37 ashimema I thought it probably was.. but I've had my head out of the mindspace for a while and couldn't exactly remember ;) 18:37 ashimema cheers tcohen.. 18:36 tcohen i've just mentioned it 18:36 tcohen ashimema: it is pretty straightforward 18:22 ashimema I really really want decent logging in koha ;) 18:22 ashimema there's lots of alternative logging bugs out there cait.. but this one seems to be the lightest weight and thus easiest to get through the various channels ;) 18:21 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14167 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add Koha::Logger based on Log4perl 18:21 cait bug 14167 18:20 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded. 18:20 ashimema @later tell eythian any chance you could take a look at bug 14167. Seems nice a neat to me, but I've a hunch there's somthing missing to make it package compatible. 18:01 Krixvar_ I'm having issues with the backup command outputting to the default directory regardless of parameters and with the create_koc_db not finding some dependency even though I've tried installing things as well as copying from the koha folders to system folders 18:00 cait o 18:00 * cait is kind-of-here to 17:59 tcohen it is the usual 17:59 Krixvar_ I totally understand :) Doing the same myself haha 17:59 tcohen don't get pissed if we lag to answer 17:59 tcohen working on several things at once 17:59 Krixvar_ no problem 17:59 tcohen i'm kind-of-here 17:58 Krixvar_ there's two other hopefully smaller things that I've been having issues with if you don't mind me asking 17:57 Krixvar_ and it works, thank you! 17:56 tcohen so, just a google result :-D 17:56 tcohen i never ran into that 17:56 Krixvar_ ah 17:56 tcohen to the directory options 17:56 tcohen Satisfy Any 17:55 tcohen Krixvar_: it seems you need to add 17:54 Krixvar_ power just went.. back now 17:51 tcohen it takes the commit dates, not the pushed date 17:51 tcohen ah, no 17:51 tcohen =D 17:51 tcohen cait: https://www.openhub.net/p/koha/contributors?query=&sort=newest 17:50 cait not sure then 17:50 cait i thought you had maybe put it in the intranet, because that wouldmake sense with the authentication 17:50 Krixvar I could add to intranet as well 17:50 cait hm 17:50 Krixvar just in opac 17:50 wahanui apache config is, like, the only thing that would've been different 17:50 cait apache config 17:49 cait there might be too entreis - one for the opac and the one intranet 17:49 Krixvar the image? 17:49 cait Krixvar: in which part of the apache did you put it? 17:47 wahanui Hmm. No matches for that, Krixvar. 17:47 Krixvar " 17:47 Krixvar tcohen, found the log - I believe the pertinent error is "[Tue May 12 13:46:06 2015] [crit] [client 192.168.2.77] configuration error: couldn't perform authentication. AuthType not set!: /local-images/library.png, referer: http://192.168.2.4/ 17:41 Krixvar nevermind, that didn't actually help 17:40 Krixvar oh der alt text one sec 17:39 Krixvar its just <img src="/local-images/library.jpg">, right? 17:38 Krixvar apparently that log doesn't exist 17:37 tcohen while trying to access the image on the browser 17:37 tcohen tail -f /var/log/koha/test/opac-error.log 17:36 tcohen /var/log/koha/test/opac-error.log 17:36 tcohen you should check the logs 17:36 tcohen is it accesible from outside? 17:35 tcohen nope 17:34 Krixvar *anything 17:34 Krixvar hmm still no go.. its a jpg file rather than a png, would that be breaking anythingm? 17:32 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "Apache 2.4 version" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/105 17:31 Krixvar thanks 17:31 tcohen just a sec 17:30 Krixvar all one line? 17:30 tcohen require all granted 17:30 tcohen and replace them with 17:30 tcohen delete the two last lines 17:29 tcohen on the <Directory...></Directory> block 17:29 Krixvar hmm? 17:29 tcohen oh 17:29 tcohen the logs will tell you 17:29 Krixvar hmm still not working, let me tinker with it a bit 17:28 tcohen if you add some new apache modules you might need to restart, though 17:28 tcohen you need to (at least) reload: sudo service apache2 reload 17:28 tcohen when you change a virtualhost definition 17:28 Krixvar Didn't work with or without a restart :/ 17:26 Krixvar should I restart apache for it to kick in? 17:26 Krixvar sweet 17:25 tcohen this way, you don't mess with the files shipped by koha, no risk of loosing anything on upgrade, etc 17:25 tcohen i'm pretty sure you will add it to the opac virtualhost definition 17:25 Krixvar I see it 17:24 tcohen you will see a section for opac, and another one for intranet 17:24 tcohen is /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/test.conf 17:24 tcohen then the file you are looking for 17:24 tcohen great 17:24 Krixvar outputs "test", the name of the setup I'm working on 17:23 cait that's a good idea too :) 17:23 tcohen can u run this on the command line? koha-list --enabled 17:23 Krixvar awesome 17:23 Krixvar I hate to ask but where exactly does this alias go? Pretty inexperienced with apache 17:23 tcohen then you refer to the images using /local-images/image_name.png 17:22 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "like this" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/104 17:22 bag foodz time for me 17:20 tcohen and add an "Alias" entry on apache, like this: 17:20 tcohen Krixvar: you should create a directory wherever you want on the server (outside koha's directories) 17:20 cait not sure what a better place would be with packages 17:20 cait Krixvar wants to put images into the opac - i suggested to put the file with the other images in its own directory 17:19 cait path 17:19 wahanui well, ah is ? 17:19 tcohen ah? 17:18 cait tcohen: do you know the patch from memory? 17:17 cait koha-tmpl 17:17 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 17:17 tcohen @later tell rangi can u please check if history.txt is up-to-date? I plan to grab the new devs from it 17:17 Krixvar I'm just trying to toss an image into OpacMainUserBlock and having more trouble than I expected 17:17 cait hm sorry, i don't have the path for a package installation in memory right now 17:16 Krixvar is koha-templ somewhere other than /usr/share? I'm not seeing it 17:15 cait but that's really just one idea 17:15 cait you could put them... in koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/images... in you rown directory 17:15 Krixvar I think this is just me being an html noob :/ 17:15 Krixvar Yeah, full access to the server 17:15 cait there is not really 'one place' 17:15 cait i am nto sure which options you have and if you can put them on the koha server yourself 17:14 cait anywhhere where you can access them via url 17:13 Krixvar Hi, this might be more of an issue of me not fully understanding web programming, but where do I put images that I want to include in OPAC html and/or how would I refer to them? Thanks! 16:03 mtompset A development server isn't necessarily internet accessible, so security concerns about the home directory are mute. 16:00 mtompset PDF::FromHTML is an anomaly, not normative. Instructions should probably not focus on that. 15:59 mtompset Why are you not being lazy and sudo apt-get install koha-perldeps? 15:59 mtompset Why are you using github, rather than git.koha-community.org? 15:58 mtompset (I'm reading your page) 15:58 mtompset xarragon: Why not in your home directory? 15:32 gaetan_B bye 15:25 cait :) 15:18 xarragon I have been adding some things to the Wiki as well, I have a setup guide for Arch Linux coming as well as this Debian Jessie guide: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian_Jessie_development_setup 15:17 * cait feels like she missed important things on irc today 15:16 cait i don't think so - you are doig well i'd say :) 15:16 xarragon cait: yep, bit of a slow start for me 15:16 cait xarragon++ too - first patch? 15:15 cait bgkriegel++ tons of sign-offs 15:15 xarragon AND there was a ticket for it, so obviously someone else was annoyed. 15:15 xarragon More to come. I just fixed that one because I noticed it and it was trivial. 15:14 Joubu it's useful, you will save a lot of clicks! 15:12 xarragon Obviously an incredibly critical one..*cough* 15:12 huginn` 04Bug 12342: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Patron registration datepicker dropdown shows only 10 years 15:12 xarragon Here it is: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12342 15:12 tcohen :-D 15:11 Joubu xarragon: you are welcome! Now we are waiting for you patch[es] ;) 15:10 xarragon Joubu: Many, many thanks! 15:09 xarragon Joubu: Now it flows like fish soup! 15:07 xarragon Joubu: Ok, was tracking master 15:05 Joubu xarragon: you should track the fishsoup branch on git://git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git 15:05 tcohen that'd mean... 15:04 tcohen will you? :-D 15:04 Joubu the onsite checkout is broken, I will submit a patch soon 15:04 reiveune bye 15:04 Joubu because of the 'get rid of DateParse stuff" 15:04 tcohen WTF? 15:04 tcohen really? 15:03 Joubu even if I have found a major ;) 15:03 xarragon Joubu: 7a73819 Add README 15:03 Joubu 3.20 looks awesome :) 15:03 * tcohen knows, i was joking 15:03 Joubu tcohen++ for the beta 15:03 Joubu tcohen: it was not for you! ;) 15:01 tcohen thanks for that zillion patches 15:01 tcohen :-P 15:01 tcohen Joubu: aa8bd7a Koha 3.20 beta 14:56 Joubu xarragon: git log --oneline|head -n1 14:54 mtompset if it looks correct in git config -l, it's fine. 14:54 xarragon ok,good 14:54 mtompset I didn't have to escape mine. 14:54 xarragon What does proper escaping for '@' look like? 14:54 mtompset did you check out the fishsoup branch? 14:53 xarragon mtompset: thanks for all your time 14:53 xarragon Joubu: git clone 14:49 Joubu xarragon: Which branch of git-bz are you using? 14:43 xarragon Well, just to make clear.. I did successfully reset my password on the bz web site, set a new one, successfully logged in with it, but it won't work when configured in git-bz. 14:35 mtompset BTW, this is why LastPass or some other password manager is useful. :) 14:34 mtompset Sorry I can't brainstorm any more ideas. I'm out. 14:34 mtompset xarragon: I hate password reset issues. I've hit them a couple times, but not in this Koha case. 14:27 tcohen sorry 14:27 tcohen not yet 14:27 mtompset tcohen: So, now that you have a pretty new beta. Can we chat about the hooking of the filter? 14:26 xarragon I am very good at going at something I am completely new to and completely trashing it. That is usually followed by learning how to fix it. 14:26 * mtompset is both impressed and horrified at the same time. :) 14:25 xarragon At this point I am considering just attaching the patch manually. :-) 14:25 xarragon But is there something about having reset it just before that I should know about? I entered the new credentials into the git config, of course. 14:23 xarragon I added print statements to the Python code and yes, it indeed reads out the correct credentials at line 370 and 377. 14:22 mtompset Oh my! more pushes to pull. 14:21 mtompset That's why you are going through this headache. Yuck. Hope you figure it out. 14:21 mtompset DOH! 14:20 xarragon I did reset my password to a new one right before trying this, because I had apparently set it to something I forgot. 14:20 mtompset (since you mentioned the @) :) 14:20 mtompset But you already said you do too... Hmmm... 14:20 xarragon Yes, same here. 14:19 mtompset I use the full email address for the username. 14:19 mtompset BTW, congrats on the beta, tcohen. :) 14:18 xarragon Like "Have you tried turning it off and on again?" 14:18 xarragon Let's just try reentering the user/pass again.. 14:18 mtompset I am not, wahanui! :P 14:16 wahanui everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver 14:16 tcohen where's everyone? 14:16 * druthb makes squinty eyes at mtompset 14:15 xarragon mtompset: Yes, it looks correct. 14:15 tcohen line 953: else, try the cookies 14:15 tcohen line 926: test for user/pass 14:14 tcohen xarragon: i see, it fallsback to try reading the browser's cookies if you don't provide the credentials on the configuration 14:14 mtompset xarragon: Did you check for typos, like I suggested? 14:12 * tcohen just can't read python 14:11 xarragon http://git.fishsoup.net/man/git-bz.html 14:11 xarragon However, the home page says: "Authentication for git-bz is done by reading the cookies for the Bugzilla host from your web browser." 14:11 xarragon Hm, okay. That makes more sense; full browser would be overkill. 14:10 tcohen but no browser is involved 14:10 tcohen where git-bz tells the user agent to identify itself as firefox 3 14:10 tcohen and you see a configuration section 14:10 tcohen git-bz uses a library that emulates a user agent 14:09 tcohen as "user agent" 14:09 tcohen the browsers are identified by the servers 14:09 tcohen nope 14:08 xarragon Ah, I see. It just "borrows" the cookies from it. 14:07 xarragon tcohen: Ok? I was looking inside the code for it, and there is a config option for it? But maybe it is not for the bz login? 14:06 tcohen git-bz doesn't use a browser 14:00 xarragon Ah, I see git-bz is using a browser. Defaulting to firefox. My firefox is heavily locked down with noscript and similar extensions. 14:00 tcohen yay! http://snag.gy/MWGr0.jpg 13:56 mtompset Looks good to me. :) 13:56 wahanui She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know? 13:56 mtompset druthb? 13:56 wahanui i heard druthb was an amazing person 13:56 mtompset druthb? 13:56 wahanui druthb is an amazing person 13:56 mtompset druthb? 13:55 wahanui okay, mtompset. 13:55 mtompset wahanui: druthb is also an amazing person 13:52 * druthb nods. 13:52 wahanui She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know? 13:52 druthb wahanui: druthb? 13:52 druthb druthb is <reply> She's really more trouble than she's worth, you know? 13:52 wahanui druthb: I forgot druthb 13:52 druthb wahanui: forget druthb 13:47 druthb lol 13:47 wahanui Let's rewrite Koha in Scala! 13:47 druthb wahanui: druthb? 13:46 tcohen heh, that's what i call timing 13:45 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Koha 3.20 beta <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa8bd7a09809397808c24f3980f2a3335289d682> / Preliminary (beta) release notes for 3.20 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=925b4d9b2c9b3a3a2e90643712e9bcb4f98f7473> / Translation updates for Koha 3.20 beta <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb1ccb313af46a92d1a69c5a910365ebdcffe6cd> 13:45 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 13:45 tcohen confetti! 13:43 mtompset Well? 13:43 mtompset oh oh oh... 13:43 druthb Hi, tcohen and mtompset. :) 13:43 tcohen 100kb/s upload speed makes me anxious 13:43 mtompset Greetings, druthb. :) 13:43 tcohen hi druthb 13:43 * tcohen is anxious 13:43 druthb o/ 13:42 mtompset (http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration) 13:42 mtompset git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-password PW 13:42 mtompset git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-user U 13:42 mtompset git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.path /bugzilla3 13:41 mtompset make sure you don't have a typo on the tracker lines. It's too easy to have a typo. 13:40 mtompset and git config -l (I think it is a lower case l) lists the correct settings? 13:40 mtompset Sorry, my wireless flaked out on me. 13:37 xarragon Ehr, '@' I mean. 13:37 xarragon yep, web login works. The username has an '2' in it, unescaped. 13:34 mtompset using the web interface? 13:34 mtompset Can you actually log into bugzilla? 13:34 mtompset xarragon: Did you properly escape funky characters? $, *, etc.? 13:33 tcohen mtompset: exactly 13:31 xarragon git-bz does not want to attach my stuff. Login invalid, but it looks correct in the config. Any ideas? 13:28 mtompset No, that's fine. You are aware that no one likes getting emails about a deprecated feature failure. 13:25 tcohen heh 13:25 tcohen not sure that's idiomatic 13:25 tcohen mtompset: i'm very aware 13:23 mtompset Jenkins build is unstable: Koha_Master_D8 #43 13:22 mtompset Yes, but I don't like getting emails. :P 13:22 tcohen i wouldn't spend time on it 13:22 tcohen the fact is that GRS-1 is deprecated and staged for removal 13:21 tcohen mtompset: about Search.t 13:03 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "The Search.t stuff I was looking to solve (Zebraidx warnings)" (56 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/103 13:03 tcohen mtompset: let me do the beta now, and be back to you 12:59 mtompset My question is about where to hook, since you didn't like it being hooked in the GetMarcBiblio function. 12:59 mtompset I'm finally getting around to 11592. 12:59 mtompset But that isn't why I'm looking for you. :) 12:58 mtompset No, I was talking about the failure of the Search.t test. 12:58 tcohen hi mtompset 12:58 huginn` mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 10 minutes and 58 seconds ago: <tcohen> does anyone have the list of the new devs? 12:58 mtompset @seen tcohen 12:58 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 12:47 tcohen does anyone have the list of the new devs? 12:47 huginn` tcohen: I've exhausted my database of quotes 12:47 tcohen @does anyone have the list of the new devs? 12:37 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 12:37 tcohen @later tell mtompset are you talking about the verbosity of Search.t? 12:36 magnuse \o/ 12:35 tcohen time for the beta 12:32 tcohen hi cait 12:32 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 12:32 tcohen @later tell rangi odd, because they are set using the unstable repo and koha-perldeps, there shouldn't be any dependency missing! 12:31 tcohen morning 12:20 magnuse document formats 12:20 magnuse in general: failure to keep up with new formats 12:20 magnuse cait: it failed to have some way to say "this a daisy thingy" 12:06 cait what did it do this time? 12:02 magnuse MARC-- 11:13 magnuse here's the weird look of the staff interface in ie that slef and i were talking about yesterday: http://div.libriotech.no/files/2015/koha/staff-ie11.png 11:13 drojf hope so too 11:11 magnuse hope there's nothing wrong 11:11 magnuse yup 11:11 drojf that's an awfully long oleonardless time 11:10 huginn` magnuse: oleonard was last seen in #koha 10 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, 15 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <oleonard> That's very strange squash. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on. 11:10 magnuse @seen oleonard 11:00 drojf :) 11:00 magnuse that's better 10:59 * magnus_away can barely hear it 10:57 * drojf shouts "hei magnus_away!" because you're far away ;) 10:56 magnus_away moin drojf 10:49 drojf hi #koha 08:48 andreashm magnuse: that would be interesting! 08:39 magnuse i am thinking of doing a blogpost, to point to the different places where development happens 08:38 magnuse which suits me fine 08:38 magnuse looks like the deadline for a working prototype is getting pushed to end of august 08:38 magnuse a bit slowly... 08:34 andreashm magnuse: how's the ill/ncip stuff coming along? 08:29 andreashm Some of our UX:ers brought it up when they looked quickly at the staff interface 08:29 andreashm magnuse: Halland is doing something there. I was just curious why this is? 08:28 magnuse andreashm: probably not? you can try making it longer with javascript (or css?) and see how you like it 08:28 magnuse liw: punny ;-) 08:25 andreashm as far as i can tell there is never anything on the top right of the page in Koha anyway? 08:24 andreashm is there a reason why the search boxes (patron, checkout etc.) has a somewhat limited width? 08:24 liw it was a pune or play on words 08:23 * magnuse looks quizzically at liw 08:23 * liw undulates 08:22 * magnuse waves back 08:20 * andreashm waves 07:37 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 18.0°C (9:35 AM CEST on May 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 07:37 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:37 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on May 12, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 07:37 magnuse @wunder boo 07:21 gaetan_B hello 07:19 dcook laters alls 07:17 cait morning #koha 07:16 fridolin hie$ 07:01 dcook I'd never heard of "shopt" before 07:01 dcook Man... learn something new every day 06:59 alex_a dcook: hello 06:58 dcook hey alex_a :) 06:58 dcook Nooo. It can't be 2 minutes to 5 :( 06:57 alex_a bonjour 06:45 * magnuse waves quickly back 06:44 * dcook waves quickly 06:41 reiveune hi magnuse 06:40 magnuse bonjour reiveune 06:40 reiveune hello 06:15 * magnuse waves 05:53 dcook laters 05:48 eythian time to go, later 05:22 eythian heh 05:22 dcook Probably a lot 05:21 dcook Actually, if someone did analysis on all the IRC logs, I wonder how many beers that would equal out to... 05:21 dcook Yay eythian! 05:21 dcook hehe 05:21 * eythian ticks off one beer from dcook as he finishes moving a block into a sub. 05:14 dcook Gitolite is always rad 05:10 dcook It just makes life better 05:09 dcook God I love Git 04:42 dcook Mmm catchy 04:21 dcook Sweet. I'll give 'er a go 04:21 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 04:18 eythian "Forever is the World" is probably a place to start. 04:18 eythian hmm 04:18 dcook Oh, I'm always a sucker for a song with the same name as other songs I listen to.. 04:17 dcook Any song recommendations? 04:17 dcook I'll give 'em a shot, sure 04:16 eythian Theatre of Tragedy, of course 04:15 dcook What to listen to next? 04:15 dcook Alas, one problem remains 04:15 dcook Wooo. Solving problems left and right here. 04:09 * dcook is wishing beer eythian's way in any case 04:09 dcook Actually, I'm not even going to start 04:09 dcook Oh man. I've seen so many bad abbreviations lately 04:08 dcook lol 04:08 eythian heh 04:08 dcook Maybe even more than one beer! 04:08 eythian $advanced_srch_type <-- good abbrev. there guy 04:08 dcook I'll buy you a beer 04:08 dcook ^ 04:08 eythian I kinda want to refactor the whole thing 04:07 * eythian wishes to remind everyone that catalogue/search.pl may be the worst thing ever. 03:42 dcook I guess we already use the OpenAthens authentication.. 03:39 dcook http://support.epnet.com/knowledge_base/detail.php?id=4191 03:39 dcook Hmm, I wonder what options EBSCO has for authentication APIs... 03:35 dcook :D 03:35 wizzyrea so it's nice and cozy and secure 03:35 wizzyrea to your SIP 03:34 wizzyrea you can ask them to stunnel it 03:34 wizzyrea if you are dealing with OCLC's ez proxy 03:34 dcook Hm? 03:34 dcook But looks like the two don't play nicely together 03:34 wizzyrea which btw 03:34 dcook Yeah, we had an enquiry about the EDS plugin, and then they mentioned EZproxy 03:34 wizzyrea one of them uses SIP + EZproxy, but not with the plugin 03:34 dcook Or a private catalogue and a referer, yeah 03:33 dcook Yeah, I think most of ours use IP ranges 03:33 dcook hehe 03:33 wizzyrea there are about 100 ways to access EDS, afaict 03:33 wizzyrea i.e. individual logins 03:33 wizzyrea or they have alternate access arrangements 03:33 wizzyrea our clients do it either with a private catalogue and referers or if it's public, IP ranges and give the finger to those outside 03:32 dcook Must be a fairly open item I guess 03:32 dcook Just a bit funny 03:32 dcook I can get the PDF Full Text, but View in EDS still prompts for login :p 03:32 dcook https://library.niwa.co.nz/plugin/Koha/Plugin/EDS/opac/eds-detail.pl?q=Retrieve?an=102038624|dbid=a9h&resultid=4&query_desc= 03:30 dcook I think I always relied on being on-site or using the uni's VPN 03:30 * dcook has never known an EBSCO login in his life 03:30 dcook I wonder how people use it then :S 03:30 dcook Doesn't look like it 03:29 dcook Too busy trying to find if this thing authenticates with EDS in any way except for the API 03:29 wizzyrea <.< 03:29 wizzyrea <., 03:29 wizzyrea >.> 03:29 dcook That's cool 03:28 dcook There in the README 03:28 dcook Ah, right 03:28 wizzyrea (anyway, this is where alvet puts the code, and where he says to get it from) 03:28 dcook Yeah, that's what I'm looking at 03:28 wizzyrea this is canonical afaik 03:28 wizzyrea https://github.com/ebsco/edsapi-koha-plugin < 03:28 wizzyrea use branch:master for Koha 3.16+ 03:28 dcook So they keep it pretty up-to-date? 03:27 wizzyrea what version it's geared for 03:27 dcook ? 03:27 wizzyrea master is the latest, it usually says somewhere 03:27 dcook All I see in Github is 3.12.x, 3.14.x, and master though 03:27 dcook Yeah, I thought there was a 3.16 version as well 03:27 wizzyrea afaik the plugin works ok on 3.18 as well 03:26 wizzyrea I think there's up to a 3.16 version of the plugin 03:25 dcook Ah, looks like that's probably because of the use of Koha.Preference in templates.. 03:24 dcook and 3.14 03:24 dcook Looks like that's gone in master 03:24 dcook Hmm, that might just be the 3.12 version 03:22 wizzyrea that bit I'm not sure about 03:22 dcook Hmm, not noticing that patch anymore though.. 03:22 dcook So I would think it would authenticate to EDS when logging into Koha 03:21 dcook But I recall the EDS plugin also changed Auth.pm 03:21 dcook Well, if I use the credentials used to setup the EDS plugin, I can get in 03:21 wizzyrea if you have credentials, you can get in 03:21 dcook That's horrible 03:21 dcook O_o 03:21 wizzyrea that's normal 03:21 dcook Correct 03:21 wizzyrea right 03:21 dcook But when I click "View in EDS", it doesn't work 03:21 wizzyrea but you can't get through to the article? 03:20 dcook I am getting results 03:20 dcook ;) 03:20 dcook our Koha* 03:20 wizzyrea you are or aren't getting results? 03:20 dcook Then I'm guessing there's an auth issue in Koha where the credentials aren't getting passed correctly 03:20 wizzyrea if you can search, it's working 03:20 dcook As the credentials are good 03:19 wizzyrea heh 03:19 dcook Maybe someone here did something wrong 03:19 dcook Hmm, I'm guessing it might be the Koha side 03:19 wizzyrea we've done ezproxy with SIP 03:19 wizzyrea not a plugin anyway 03:19 wizzyrea and I don't think we've done one with ezproxy 03:18 wizzyrea not the koha side 03:18 wizzyrea I'm almost sure it's gonna be on the EDS side 03:17 dcook Hmm looks like the account is set up right.. 03:17 dcook I'll keep trying 03:17 dcook Well, thanks for the info :) 03:17 wizzyrea anyway 03:16 wizzyrea yep, searches will 03:16 dcook I can see results from EBSCO 03:16 dcook My search works fine 03:16 wizzyrea the EBSCO account 03:16 dcook accounts? 03:16 dcook I think we were running 3.14 but the only plugin available was 3.12 03:16 wizzyrea to work with the plugin 03:16 wizzyrea the accounts do have to be set up on EBSCO's end properly 03:16 wizzyrea O.o why would you do that? 03:16 dcook :/ 03:16 dcook Yeah 03:16 wizzyrea at the other end 03:16 dcook Hmm, it might be that we're using a hacked version of the EDS plugin too 03:15 wizzyrea however you have that configured, or however they have your account configured 03:15 wizzyrea I think it's entirely due to EDS access controls 03:15 dcook I mean once I try to access content that is 03:15 dcook Even as a logged in Koha user 03:15 dcook Hmm, in my demo version, it's still prompting me to login to EDS 03:15 wizzyrea that's the plugin 03:14 wizzyrea and do a search 03:14 wizzyrea so if you pick discovery from the dropdown 03:14 wizzyrea is library.niwa.co.nz 03:14 dcook Mmm, that's a good point 03:14 wahanui an example is probably a status change 03:14 wizzyrea an example 03:14 wizzyrea it's pretty well integrated 03:14 wizzyrea for koha 03:14 wizzyrea it might do some trickery with logged in users 03:13 dcook Yeah, so it'll only work on-site for libraries 03:13 dcook Yeah, I just tried clicking through and I'm getting an EBSCO login, although that's to be expected in my case 03:13 wizzyrea I think referrers and IP ranges are what it uses 03:12 dcook Which it might? 03:12 wizzyrea they don't, it uses EDS's internal access control 03:12 dcook Unless the EDS plugin allows you to specify an EZproxy URL... 03:12 dcook Probably not well 03:12 dcook Hmm, I wonder how EZproxy and the EDS plugin work together 03:12 wizzyrea lol 03:08 dcook Bien sûr 03:08 dcook And then use SIP for the actual...ahh...ahhh! 03:08 dcook So EZProxy can connect to the SIP server with those credentials 03:08 dcook Ah, but I guess that's just the SIP account? 03:05 dcook That makes it seem like there is just a generic user :S 03:04 dcook Hmm not following OCLC's documentation: https://www.oclc.org/support/services/ezproxy/documentation/usr/sip.en.html 02:54 dcook And I assume that the library has to replace their existing 856 with EZProxy links? 02:51 dcook Is the idea that EZProxy prompts you to login, it authenticates you against Koha, and then uses IP-based authentication to provide access to electronic resources? 02:50 dcook I see something about EZProxy using SIP2 to authenticate with Koha 02:50 dcook Or rather.. 02:49 dcook I'm looking at the EZProxy demo, so nevermind for now.. 02:49 dcook That's the question. Haha 02:49 wizzyrea define "integrate" 02:46 * dcook thinks rangi integrated EZProxy and Koha back in 2013? 02:46 dcook Is anyone around to answer an EZProxy question? 01:51 wizzyrea :) 01:48 eythian sounds like a bug 01:48 eythian no, it doesn't 01:48 eythian oh wait 01:48 eythian The latest message sounds working as intended to me 01:46 wahanui You can subscribe to the Koha mailing list at https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha it is hosted by Katipo Communications. 01:46 wizzyrea koha list 01:45 wizzyrea koha list is <reply> You can subscribe to the Koha mailing list at https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha it is hosted by Katipo Communications. 01:44 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot koha list 01:44 wizzyrea forget koha list 01:44 wahanui wizzyrea: koha list =is= not hosted by biblibre 01:44 wizzyrea literal koha list 01:44 wahanui koha list is probably not hosted by biblibre 01:44 wizzyrea koha list 01:44 dcook Which list? 01:44 rangi yeah 01:43 wizzyrea on the list 01:43 wizzyrea I think that latest message indicates a bug for allowonshelfholds... that doesn't sound right. 00:12 dcook Definitely neat :D 00:10 eythian wizzyrea: yeah, it is. 00:10 eythian dcook: the other thing is that this can do 20 million samples/s, the cheap one can do about 1 or 2 I think. 00:09 wizzyrea eythian: well that's a pretty neat gadget 00:07 eythian dcook: no, this just arrived. The one I had at kiwicon was a lot cheaper and simpler, also it could only receive, this can transmit 00:07 dcook Were you using one of these at Kiwicon, eythian? 00:07 dcook Ahhh 00:04 eythian I don't know yet 00:04 mtompset eythian: What do you plan on doing with it? :) 00:01 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded. 00:01 mtompset @later tell tcohen Never mind, that whole Search.t mess... I can't seem to figure it out. Plus, it's not my fault. :) 00:01 eythian https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/index.php/s/OdB8G0XEfNIieWp <-- my hackrf blue has arrived :D 00:00 mtompset Greetings, #koha.