Time  Nick      Message
23:29 dcook     It's just pretty much nonsense
23:29 dcook     It doesn't even have a way of suckering you in
23:29 dcook     Hehe. Looking at some of the spam in my inbox, and it's just...
21:50 nengard   hmmm
21:48 eythian   not Bywater the village that Bywater Pool is named after?
21:48 eythian   > would name a future business venture together Bywater after Bywater Pool of The Lord of the Rings.
21:44 eythian   hi
21:44 rangi     yay thanks
21:43 nengard   rangi all fixed
21:18 nengard   well thanks ibeardslee
21:17 rangi     actually ibeardslee caught it :)
21:16 nengard   thanks for catching
21:16 nengard   email sent
21:16 nengard   hehe
21:16 rangi     morning
21:16 rangi     :)
21:16 rangi     apparently 103 times
21:15 nengard   crap ola!! How many times do I have to tell them
21:15 rangi     good article otherwise :)
21:15 rangi     https://opensource.com/business/15/5/bywater-solutions-empowering-library-tech <-- could you get them to fix the link for koha?
21:15 nengard   hola
21:15 nengard   yup
21:15 rangi     nengard: you about?
20:55 huginn`   indradg: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 8 weeks, 6 days, 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> :)
20:55 indradg   @seen bgkriegel
19:52 tcohen    you will now receive those emails twice :-P
19:52 tcohen    but it seems i'm missing something
19:52 tcohen    i created the 3.18
19:51 nengard   Thanks
19:51 nengard   Sounds good to me
19:50 tcohen    for now it is just a sanity check
19:50 tcohen    at some point we could do more interesting stuff
19:50 tcohen    nengard: ok, the guys added some initial testing on the manual.xml file
19:47 nengard   All i know is that one day the manual was added to jenkins and i started getting emails :)
19:47 nengard   I'm not sure what that is ...
19:47 tcohen    ok, and only run xmllint on them, right?
19:47 nengard   I would think so - the only two i maintain are master and one release back
19:47 nengard   but that was to the koha list
19:46 tcohen    so u also expect a task to be testing 3.18 too?
19:46 nengard   I think my email a while ago mentioned that 3.18 wasn't being tracked
19:46 nengard   oh okay
19:46 tcohen    i was fixing Koha_Docs (the one failing, which is the only problem i knew about :-D)
19:46 nengard   no 3.18.x
19:46 nengard   Koha_Docs_3.8.x
19:46 tcohen    ah, I see
19:46 nengard   Koha_Docs_3.16.x
19:46 nengard   Koha_Docs_3.14.x
19:46 nengard   Koha_Docs_3.12.x
19:46 nengard   Koha_Docs_3.10.x
19:46 nengard   Koha_Docs
19:45 tcohen    which follows 'master' from the kohadocs.git repo
19:45 nengard   and below that there is koha_docs for each branch
19:45 tcohen    i'm looking at Koha_Docs
19:45 tcohen    nengard: not sure where are you looking
19:44 nengard   I still don't see a 3.18 branch
19:44 nengard   so tcohen will this page be updated? http://jenkins.koha-community.org/
19:44 nengard   and I don't know ...
19:44 nengard   awesome
19:40 tcohen    i suppose we don't need to test other languages on master?
19:40 tcohen    nengard: done
18:50 huginn`   New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12743: ACQ: default values for catalogue records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88537974e339f5c576bcb5e32fe6e4fe6248d61c> / Bug 13758: Correct KOHA::VERSION in OverDrive.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=164d1f9b8ebb2d1e112507a45a3ad71558bafaed>
16:23 amyk      hello
16:23 drojf     hi #koha
15:19 gaetan_B  bye
15:16 reiveune  bye
14:55 indradg   the generator tag in the html files seemed to suggest standard docbook-xsl chunking
14:54 nengard   :)
14:54 indradg   ok!
14:53 nengard   the script runs nightly on the docbook to convert it and update the html
14:52 nengard   no, I use oxygen to write the docbook. bernardo has some magic script for the docbook to html and docbook to pdf part of things
14:52 indradg   nengard: you use oxygen for doing the docbook to html conversion?
14:33 nengard   that's a solution :)
14:27 nengard   we wont' support it ...
14:27 slef      I hate MSIE.
14:27 slef      Hrm, the troublesome MSIE might be 9 or perhaps even 7. If 7, I can tell them to upgrade because a colleague of theirs uses 9 so it must be allowed.
14:24 nengard   :)
14:23 cait      took me forever to figure out :)
14:23 cait      i recently had a similar thing
14:23 nengard   thank you - i knew that - i should have done that - but it's monday morning ;)
14:22 nengard   cait++
14:20 cait      /\|/...
14:20 cait      nengard: try escaping the | with \
14:18 nengard   or jquery
14:18 nengard   any juqery experts around to help with my above paste?
14:17 nengard   nope
14:17 tcohen    nengard: any news from gmcharlt ?
14:05 nengard   got any jquery experts in this morning - this should be easy - but I think becuase it's a bar character it's fighting with me
14:03 pastebot  "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "jquery help - how do I remove the bar from urls display - this isn't working" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/102
13:47 huginn`   nengard: The operation succeeded.
13:47 nengard   @later tell drojf love the youtube integration!! Got a patch for me to test and sign off on?? :)
13:46 Talia     Thank you very much
13:44 nengard   You need to go to Administration > Global System Preferences > OPAC and you'll see all the preferences you need to customize your OPAC
13:40 nengard   Hi Talia
13:35 Talia     Hi everyone, we are using koha for quite some time now, but I still didnt find a way on customizing the index site.. It says important links here.. and i have no clue where to edit those texts.. I have only found this in the manual: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.14/en/impopac.html, but I dont know where to change the contents of those regions.. Would someone please be so kind and explained?
13:30 magnuse   have fun #koha!
13:01 slef      I can maybe take a screenshot if it would help
13:01 slef      but it's as magnuse describes
13:01 * slef    checking
13:00 magnuse   ...in ie 11, i think it was?
12:59 magnuse   i have a customer where i can only access things through some screensharing tech via a windoze machine, and there the admin frontpage looks like someone bumped into the otherwise nicely stacked boxes
12:58 magnuse   slef: yeah, i have seen something like that
12:57 cait      no, but i got a report of things not showing on braille line that i have to figure out
12:57 cait      what does look strange?
12:57 slef      I suspect a screen reader wouldn't be too affected by display problems
12:57 slef      cache was deleted properly, no upgrade at trigger time
12:56 cait      because it DOES looks strange aftr an upgrade if you don't
12:56 cait      slef: cache was deleted properly?
12:55 cait      slef: i didn't get any repots so far - we have one libararian that has to use ie because of her screen reader and other tools
12:54 slef      the homepage boxes suddenly won't line up
12:54 slef      ok, here's my puzzle: has anyone seen the intranet layout suddenly go strange on MSIE? (I know MSIE is discouraged but government sites bleaaaah)
12:53 slef      probably best next move
12:53 magnuse   the wiki says it is run by equinox
12:53 magnuse   ping gmcharlt?
12:52 magnuse   older versions would have urls like http://perldoc.koha-community.org/v3.06.07/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.html
12:52 magnuse   it should be master
12:52 slef      but no commit info?
12:52 slef      ah, there's an update date in a html source comment
12:51 slef      magnuse: I can't even see an update date, let alone which branch it was produced from
12:50 cait      hi slef
12:50 cait      visibly the page looks the same :(
12:50 cait      about my earlier question- found some jquery - now have to find out why something no longer shows on the braille line... any poiters appreciated
12:49 slef      hi all
12:49 cait      hm maybe formatting ?
12:46 magnuse   weird. the source of http://perldoc.koha-community.org/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.html says it was updated on "Mon May 11 05:16:36 2015 GMT" but it is missing the -cleanisbn/-nocleanisbn options which were added in 2011
12:37 tcohen    :-D
12:37 cait      heh
12:37 tcohen    well, i bought cecilia a cute backpack
12:37 cait      so flight - grab laptop - flight?
12:37 cait      oh
12:37 tcohen    i got back to buenos aires just in time to fly to cordoba
12:37 tcohen    outside the city
12:37 tcohen    it all ended at 17:30 on the international airport
12:36 tcohen    not at all
12:35 cait      i hope you could enjoy the time in ba a bit too?
12:34 tcohen    after a journey to the customs office in buenos aires
12:34 tcohen    i got it last friday
12:34 * cait    stops before khall starts flying :)
12:33 tcohen    i'm so happy and grateful
12:33 magnuse   khall++ tcohen++
12:33 cait      khall++
12:33 magnuse   khall++ tcohen++
12:33 cait      khall++
12:33 cait      khall++
12:33 khall     lol!
12:33 cait      lol
12:33 tcohen    khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working
12:33 tcohen    khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working
12:33 tcohen    khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working
12:33 tcohen    khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working
12:33 tcohen    khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working
12:33 tcohen    khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working
12:33 tcohen    khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working
12:33 tcohen    khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working
12:33 tcohen    khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working
12:33 tcohen    khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working
12:33 tcohen    khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working
12:33 tcohen    khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working
12:31 magnuse   "The initialism ISBN, the phrase ISBN (invalid), and the embedded hyphens are not carried in the MARC record. They may be system generated as display constants associated with the content of subfields $a and $z, respectively." http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd020.html
12:31 cait      which one are you looking for?
12:31 indradg   ok
12:31 cait      manually
12:31 cait      indradg: it depends on the information - some is done manualle
12:31 magnuse   cait: ah yes, found it
12:30 indradg   cait: is dashboard.koha-community.org cron updated? if so, any idea of the frequency?
12:30 cait      ...and the embedded hyphens may be generated for display.
12:30 cait      http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd020.html
12:30 cait      germany stores the version with hyphens in 020$9
12:29 cait      magnuse: afaik yes
12:27 magnuse   cait: marc21 is supposed to store isbns without hyphens in 020?
12:26 tcohen    hi Joubu
12:25 huginn`   tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:25 tcohen    @later tell mtompset i don't get it. the problem is related to i686 setups, because we have hardcoded paths that don't work well on them I think
12:25 cait      and does anyone have a jquery to auto-check the 'show all checkouts'?
12:25 cait      working on some accessibliity issues - anyone experience with that?
12:25 cait      same model as the stolen one?
12:25 cait      oh
12:24 tcohen    identical :-D
12:24 cait      how is it?
12:23 tcohen    yay!
12:23 cait      happy tcohen :)
12:23 tcohen    :-d
12:23 tcohen    morning
12:23 cait      or only for the isbn column in the db tables?
12:23 cait      magnuse: hm maybe ohnly in some cases? marc21 is without hyphens
12:22 magnuse   not when it's done through the web ui, at least
12:17 magnuse   weird. do we really remove hyphens from the first isbn (020), when records are imported into koha?
11:51 cait      cool :)
11:49 khall     cait: yes, found the problem
11:37 cait      did you find the problem?
11:37 cait      but they haven't
11:37 cait      i got confused - i thought the relatives checkouts had already been pushed
11:37 cait      ah
11:36 cait      sec
11:36 cait      one ces
11:36 khall     what's up?
11:36 cait      khall: around?
10:40 cait      ah food :)
10:40 magnuse   cait: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiffin
10:30 cait      back
09:52 wahanui   i heard lunchtime was a terrible time for a meeting
09:52 cait      lunchtime!
09:51 cait      tiffin?
09:44 magnuse   tiffintime!
09:04 bakh      ye, Im testing it right now, but the problem is, that I always get 952 on different lines
09:04 cait      952 \\$aBRANCHCODE$bBRANCHCODE$yitemtype$o...$p... would be good - but depends on your library
09:04 cait      you should create something like indradg's example
09:04 bakh      its not important for our library, so I was said right now.
09:03 bakh      in next import I have deleted the 952i and the date
09:03 wahanui   it has been said that the barcode is actually handled by cataloguing/value_builder/barcode.pl.
09:03 cait      the barcode?
09:03 cait      is it the number you use for checking out?
09:03 wahanui   $i is used
09:03 cait      what is $i?
09:03 cait      and the date format looks weird too
09:03 bakh      yeah, thats why i have 3 item holdings
09:02 cait      hm that's still 3 952
09:02 bakh      =952  \\$10 =952  \\$d7/28/2011 12:00:00 AM =952  \\$i2439874
09:02 bakh      hm my record looks a bit different
09:00 wahanui   https://i.imgur.com/sguSwlh.jpg
09:00 cait      what's the problem?
09:00 cait      indradg: i have seen your emails, but only tested, not worked on the code
09:00 cait      bakh: also setting y the itemtype is good for circulation later
09:00 * indradg is wondering is anyone who has worked on the currency code is around
08:59 bakh      oh I see, Il try to compare it with mine
08:58 indradg   =952  \\$8FIC$aMIETSCHOOL$bMIETSCHOOL$d2003-01-03$eCBT$g80$i126$p1000000126$w2003-01-03$xBill No. 1296;1297$yBK
08:58 indradg   bakh: this is what 952 for a record on one of my systems look like in MarcEdit
08:56 magnuse   gah! gah! what you *put* there
08:56 magnuse   gah! what you *out* there
08:53 magnuse   bakh: and just to be clear: what you out there is the library "code" you defined on INTRANET/cgi-bin/koha/admin/branches.pl
08:51 bakh      oh, Ok thanks, Ill try that
08:50 magnuse   you still have to put it in $a and $b, but it will be the same for all records
08:48 bakh      What if I only have one library?
08:48 magnuse   the value there should correspond to a library you have set up in koha
08:47 magnuse   you will need at least $a and $b too, i think
08:46 bakh      oh, Ok, thanks very much, I will change it so that there will be only  952$i as inventory
08:46 magnuse   or not import some of the 952's, because mandatory subfields are missing
08:46 magnuse   yeah, if you have three separate 952 fields with those subfields, koha will see it as three separate items
08:45 magnuse   here is an explanation of what goes in what subfield: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
08:45 bakh      it will tell the system that i have three item holdings?
08:45 bakh      so If i used for example 952$1, 952$d and 952$i for one book
08:44 bakh      oh I see
08:44 magnuse   bakh: in koha, items in marc records are in the 952 field. so check your records for what appears there
08:42 bakh      Hi everyone, would anyone please be so kind and guided me a little with data importing? I was able to import over 15000 records to the database, but I have a problem with "item holdings". It randomly shows that I have 2 or 3 item holdings, but I only have one.
08:33 andreashm hi magnuse
08:30 magnuse   kia ora andreashm
08:24 andreashm morning
07:55 huginn`   04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , relative's checkouts in the opac
07:55 magnuse   bug 9303
07:50 huginn`   cait: The operation succeeded.
07:50 cait      @later tell khall_away .. I meant 9303
07:50 huginn`   cait: The operation succeeded.
07:50 cait      @later tell khall_away can you please take a look at the comments on bug 9309?
07:40 fridolin  hie
07:34 cait      hi gaetan_B
07:31 wahanui   privet, gaetan_B
07:31 gaetan_B  hello
07:30 * cait    waves back
07:26 * magnuse waves again
06:51 huginn`   magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
06:51 magnuse   @wunder marseille
06:51 huginn`   magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
06:51 magnuse   @wunder boo
06:47 alex_a    bonjour
06:45 wahanui   hey, reiveune
06:45 reiveune  hello
06:24 * magnuse waves
02:49 wizzyrea  nice temp tho
02:49 huginn`   wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (2:30 PM NZST on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling).
02:49 wizzyrea  @wunder nzwn
02:49 wizzyrea  it's supposed to be getting windier over the day here too
02:45 BobB      the Pressure is the clue  :)
02:44 huginn`   BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0°C (12:30 PM AEST on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling).
02:44 BobB      @wunder Sydney, New South Wales
02:44 BobB      windy as in Sydney
00:10 eythian   -e
00:10 eythian   but yeah, that should be helpfule
00:09 eythian   I'd not heard of it either.
00:08 BobB      good info from Mirko, eh
00:07 BobB      I hadn't heard of LTI before the question :)
00:07 eythian   yeah
00:07 BobB      just 'Is Koha LTI compliant?'
00:06 BobB      but there's nothing concrete from the client yet - not even about what they want to achieve
00:06 eythian   oh right :)
00:06 BobB      hi eythian, it was Andrew Boag who made the suggestion to me
00:05 eythian   we have a moodle development team here, it's something we've been looking for an excuse to do for a while.
00:05 eythian   BobB: > be to bolt Koha and Moodle [...] together
00:04 wizzyrea  hm I wonder if I can still push to the kc repo.
00:00 wizzyrea  neato