Time Nick Message 00:00 wizzyrea neato 00:04 wizzyrea hm I wonder if I can still push to the kc repo. 00:05 eythian BobB: > be to bolt Koha and Moodle [...] together 00:05 eythian we have a moodle development team here, it's something we've been looking for an excuse to do for a while. 00:06 BobB hi eythian, it was Andrew Boag who made the suggestion to me 00:06 eythian oh right :) 00:06 BobB but there's nothing concrete from the client yet - not even about what they want to achieve 00:07 BobB just 'Is Koha LTI compliant?' 00:07 eythian yeah 00:07 BobB I hadn't heard of LTI before the question :) 00:08 BobB good info from Mirko, eh 00:09 eythian I'd not heard of it either. 00:10 eythian but yeah, that should be helpfule 00:10 eythian -e 02:44 BobB windy as in Sydney 02:44 BobB @wunder Sydney, New South Wales 02:44 huginn` BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 21.0°C (12:30 PM AEST on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling). 02:45 BobB the Pressure is the clue :) 02:49 wizzyrea it's supposed to be getting windier over the day here too 02:49 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 02:49 huginn` wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (2:30 PM NZST on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). 02:49 wizzyrea nice temp tho 06:24 * magnuse waves 06:45 reiveune hello 06:45 wahanui hey, reiveune 06:47 alex_a bonjour 06:51 magnuse @wunder boo 06:51 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 06:51 magnuse @wunder marseille 06:51 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 11, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady). 07:26 * magnuse waves again 07:30 * cait waves back 07:31 gaetan_B hello 07:31 wahanui privet, gaetan_B 07:34 cait hi gaetan_B 07:40 fridolin hie 07:50 cait @later tell khall_away can you please take a look at the comments on bug 9309? 07:50 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 07:50 cait @later tell khall_away .. I meant 9303 07:50 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. 07:55 magnuse bug 9303 07:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , relative's checkouts in the opac 08:24 andreashm morning 08:30 magnuse kia ora andreashm 08:33 andreashm hi magnuse 08:42 bakh Hi everyone, would anyone please be so kind and guided me a little with data importing? I was able to import over 15000 records to the database, but I have a problem with "item holdings". It randomly shows that I have 2 or 3 item holdings, but I only have one. 08:44 magnuse bakh: in koha, items in marc records are in the 952 field. so check your records for what appears there 08:44 bakh oh I see 08:45 bakh so If i used for example 952$1, 952$d and 952$i for one book 08:45 bakh it will tell the system that i have three item holdings? 08:45 magnuse here is an explanation of what goes in what subfield: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29 08:46 magnuse yeah, if you have three separate 952 fields with those subfields, koha will see it as three separate items 08:46 magnuse or not import some of the 952's, because mandatory subfields are missing 08:46 bakh oh, Ok, thanks very much, I will change it so that there will be only 952$i as inventory 08:47 magnuse you will need at least $a and $b too, i think 08:48 magnuse the value there should correspond to a library you have set up in koha 08:48 bakh What if I only have one library? 08:50 magnuse you still have to put it in $a and $b, but it will be the same for all records 08:51 bakh oh, Ok thanks, Ill try that 08:53 magnuse bakh: and just to be clear: what you out there is the library "code" you defined on INTRANET/cgi-bin/koha/admin/branches.pl 08:56 magnuse gah! what you *out* there 08:56 magnuse gah! gah! what you *put* there 08:58 indradg bakh: this is what 952 for a record on one of my systems look like in MarcEdit 08:58 indradg =952 \\$8FIC$aMIETSCHOOL$bMIETSCHOOL$d2003-01-03$eCBT$g80$i126$p1000000126$w2003-01-03$xBill No. 1296;1297$yBK 08:59 bakh oh I see, Il try to compare it with mine 09:00 * indradg is wondering is anyone who has worked on the currency code is around 09:00 cait bakh: also setting y the itemtype is good for circulation later 09:00 cait indradg: i have seen your emails, but only tested, not worked on the code 09:00 cait what's the problem? 09:00 wahanui https://i.imgur.com/sguSwlh.jpg 09:02 bakh hm my record looks a bit different 09:02 bakh =952 \\$10 =952 \\$d7/28/2011 12:00:00 AM =952 \\$i2439874 09:02 cait hm that's still 3 952 09:03 bakh yeah, thats why i have 3 item holdings 09:03 cait and the date format looks weird too 09:03 cait what is $i? 09:03 wahanui $i is used 09:03 cait is it the number you use for checking out? 09:03 cait the barcode? 09:03 wahanui it has been said that the barcode is actually handled by cataloguing/value_builder/barcode.pl. 09:03 bakh in next import I have deleted the 952i and the date 09:04 bakh its not important for our library, so I was said right now. 09:04 cait you should create something like indradg's example 09:04 cait 952 \\$aBRANCHCODE$bBRANCHCODE$yitemtype$o...$p... would be good - but depends on your library 09:04 bakh ye, Im testing it right now, but the problem is, that I always get 952 on different lines 09:44 magnuse tiffintime! 09:51 cait tiffin? 09:52 cait lunchtime! 09:52 wahanui i heard lunchtime was a terrible time for a meeting 10:30 cait back 10:40 magnuse cait: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiffin 10:40 cait ah food :) 11:36 cait khall: around? 11:36 khall what's up? 11:36 cait one ces 11:36 cait sec 11:37 cait ah 11:37 cait i got confused - i thought the relatives checkouts had already been pushed 11:37 cait but they haven't 11:37 cait did you find the problem? 11:49 khall cait: yes, found the problem 11:51 cait cool :) 12:17 magnuse weird. do we really remove hyphens from the first isbn (020), when records are imported into koha? 12:22 magnuse not when it's done through the web ui, at least 12:23 cait magnuse: hm maybe ohnly in some cases? marc21 is without hyphens 12:23 cait or only for the isbn column in the db tables? 12:23 tcohen morning 12:23 tcohen :-d 12:23 cait happy tcohen :) 12:23 tcohen yay! 12:24 cait how is it? 12:24 tcohen identical :-D 12:25 cait oh 12:25 cait same model as the stolen one? 12:25 cait working on some accessibliity issues - anyone experience with that? 12:25 cait and does anyone have a jquery to auto-check the 'show all checkouts'? 12:25 tcohen @later tell mtompset i don't get it. the problem is related to i686 setups, because we have hardcoded paths that don't work well on them I think 12:25 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 12:26 tcohen hi Joubu 12:27 magnuse cait: marc21 is supposed to store isbns without hyphens in 020? 12:29 cait magnuse: afaik yes 12:30 cait germany stores the version with hyphens in 020$9 12:30 cait http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd020.html 12:30 cait ...and the embedded hyphens may be generated for display. 12:30 indradg cait: is dashboard.koha-community.org cron updated? if so, any idea of the frequency? 12:31 magnuse cait: ah yes, found it 12:31 cait indradg: it depends on the information - some is done manualle 12:31 cait manually 12:31 indradg ok 12:31 cait which one are you looking for? 12:31 magnuse "The initialism ISBN, the phrase ISBN (invalid), and the embedded hyphens are not carried in the MARC record. They may be system generated as display constants associated with the content of subfields $a and $z, respectively." http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd020.html 12:33 tcohen khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working 12:33 tcohen khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working 12:33 tcohen khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working 12:33 tcohen khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working 12:33 tcohen khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working 12:33 tcohen khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working 12:33 tcohen khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working 12:33 tcohen khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working 12:33 tcohen khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working 12:33 tcohen khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working 12:33 tcohen khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working 12:33 tcohen khall++ # helping me on getting a new laptop to keep working 12:33 cait lol 12:33 khall lol! 12:33 cait khall++ 12:33 cait khall++ 12:33 magnuse khall++ tcohen++ 12:33 cait khall++ 12:33 magnuse khall++ tcohen++ 12:33 tcohen i'm so happy and grateful 12:34 * cait stops before khall starts flying :) 12:34 tcohen i got it last friday 12:34 tcohen after a journey to the customs office in buenos aires 12:35 cait i hope you could enjoy the time in ba a bit too? 12:36 tcohen not at all 12:37 tcohen it all ended at 17:30 on the international airport 12:37 tcohen outside the city 12:37 tcohen i got back to buenos aires just in time to fly to cordoba 12:37 cait oh 12:37 cait so flight - grab laptop - flight? 12:37 tcohen well, i bought cecilia a cute backpack 12:37 cait heh 12:37 tcohen :-D 12:46 magnuse weird. the source of http://perldoc.koha-community.org/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.html says it was updated on "Mon May 11 05:16:36 2015 GMT" but it is missing the -cleanisbn/-nocleanisbn options which were added in 2011 12:49 cait hm maybe formatting ? 12:49 slef hi all 12:50 cait about my earlier question- found some jquery - now have to find out why something no longer shows on the braille line... any poiters appreciated 12:50 cait visibly the page looks the same :( 12:50 cait hi slef 12:51 slef magnuse: I can't even see an update date, let alone which branch it was produced from 12:52 slef ah, there's an update date in a html source comment 12:52 slef but no commit info? 12:52 magnuse it should be master 12:52 magnuse older versions would have urls like http://perldoc.koha-community.org/v3.06.07/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.html 12:53 magnuse ping gmcharlt? 12:53 magnuse the wiki says it is run by equinox 12:53 slef probably best next move 12:54 slef ok, here's my puzzle: has anyone seen the intranet layout suddenly go strange on MSIE? (I know MSIE is discouraged but government sites bleaaaah) 12:54 slef the homepage boxes suddenly won't line up 12:55 cait slef: i didn't get any repots so far - we have one libararian that has to use ie because of her screen reader and other tools 12:56 cait slef: cache was deleted properly? 12:56 cait because it DOES looks strange aftr an upgrade if you don't 12:57 slef cache was deleted properly, no upgrade at trigger time 12:57 slef I suspect a screen reader wouldn't be too affected by display problems 12:57 cait what does look strange? 12:57 cait no, but i got a report of things not showing on braille line that i have to figure out 12:58 magnuse slef: yeah, i have seen something like that 12:59 magnuse i have a customer where i can only access things through some screensharing tech via a windoze machine, and there the admin frontpage looks like someone bumped into the otherwise nicely stacked boxes 13:00 magnuse ...in ie 11, i think it was? 13:01 * slef checking 13:01 slef but it's as magnuse describes 13:01 slef I can maybe take a screenshot if it would help 13:30 magnuse have fun #koha! 13:35 Talia Hi everyone, we are using koha for quite some time now, but I still didnt find a way on customizing the index site.. It says important links here.. and i have no clue where to edit those texts.. I have only found this in the manual: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.14/en/impopac.html, but I dont know where to change the contents of those regions.. Would someone please be so kind and explained? 13:40 nengard Hi Talia 13:44 nengard You need to go to Administration > Global System Preferences > OPAC and you'll see all the preferences you need to customize your OPAC 13:46 Talia Thank you very much 13:47 nengard @later tell drojf love the youtube integration!! Got a patch for me to test and sign off on?? :) 13:47 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded. 14:03 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "jquery help - how do I remove the bar from urls display - this isn't working" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/102 14:05 nengard got any jquery experts in this morning - this should be easy - but I think becuase it's a bar character it's fighting with me 14:17 tcohen nengard: any news from gmcharlt ? 14:17 nengard nope 14:18 nengard any juqery experts around to help with my above paste? 14:18 nengard or jquery 14:20 cait nengard: try escaping the | with \ 14:20 cait /\|/... 14:22 nengard cait++ 14:23 nengard thank you - i knew that - i should have done that - but it's monday morning ;) 14:23 cait i recently had a similar thing 14:23 cait took me forever to figure out :) 14:24 nengard :) 14:27 slef Hrm, the troublesome MSIE might be 9 or perhaps even 7. If 7, I can tell them to upgrade because a colleague of theirs uses 9 so it must be allowed. 14:27 slef I hate MSIE. 14:27 nengard we wont' support it ... 14:33 nengard that's a solution :) 14:52 indradg nengard: you use oxygen for doing the docbook to html conversion? 14:52 nengard no, I use oxygen to write the docbook. bernardo has some magic script for the docbook to html and docbook to pdf part of things 14:53 nengard the script runs nightly on the docbook to convert it and update the html 14:54 indradg ok! 14:54 nengard :) 14:55 indradg the generator tag in the html files seemed to suggest standard docbook-xsl chunking 15:16 reiveune bye 15:19 gaetan_B bye 16:23 drojf hi #koha 16:23 amyk hello 18:50 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12743: ACQ: default values for catalogue records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=88537974e339f5c576bcb5e32fe6e4fe6248d61c> / Bug 13758: Correct KOHA::VERSION in OverDrive.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=164d1f9b8ebb2d1e112507a45a3ad71558bafaed> 19:40 tcohen nengard: done 19:40 tcohen i suppose we don't need to test other languages on master? 19:44 nengard awesome 19:44 nengard and I don't know ... 19:44 nengard so tcohen will this page be updated? http://jenkins.koha-community.org/ 19:44 nengard I still don't see a 3.18 branch 19:45 tcohen nengard: not sure where are you looking 19:45 tcohen i'm looking at Koha_Docs 19:45 nengard and below that there is koha_docs for each branch 19:45 tcohen which follows 'master' from the kohadocs.git repo 19:46 nengard Koha_Docs 19:46 nengard Koha_Docs_3.10.x 19:46 nengard Koha_Docs_3.12.x 19:46 nengard Koha_Docs_3.14.x 19:46 nengard Koha_Docs_3.16.x 19:46 tcohen ah, I see 19:46 nengard Koha_Docs_3.8.x 19:46 nengard no 3.18.x 19:46 tcohen i was fixing Koha_Docs (the one failing, which is the only problem i knew about :-D) 19:46 nengard oh okay 19:46 nengard I think my email a while ago mentioned that 3.18 wasn't being tracked 19:46 tcohen so u also expect a task to be testing 3.18 too? 19:47 nengard but that was to the koha list 19:47 nengard I would think so - the only two i maintain are master and one release back 19:47 tcohen ok, and only run xmllint on them, right? 19:47 nengard I'm not sure what that is ... 19:47 nengard All i know is that one day the manual was added to jenkins and i started getting emails :) 19:50 tcohen nengard: ok, the guys added some initial testing on the manual.xml file 19:50 tcohen at some point we could do more interesting stuff 19:50 tcohen for now it is just a sanity check 19:51 nengard Sounds good to me 19:51 nengard Thanks 19:52 tcohen i created the 3.18 19:52 tcohen but it seems i'm missing something 19:52 tcohen you will now receive those emails twice :-P 20:55 indradg @seen bgkriegel 20:55 huginn` indradg: bgkriegel was last seen in #koha 8 weeks, 6 days, 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <bgkriegel> :) 21:15 rangi nengard: you about? 21:15 nengard yup 21:15 nengard hola 21:15 rangi https://opensource.com/business/15/5/bywater-solutions-empowering-library-tech <-- could you get them to fix the link for koha? 21:15 rangi good article otherwise :) 21:15 nengard crap ola!! How many times do I have to tell them 21:16 rangi apparently 103 times 21:16 rangi :) 21:16 rangi morning 21:16 nengard hehe 21:16 nengard email sent 21:16 nengard thanks for catching 21:17 rangi actually ibeardslee caught it :) 21:18 nengard well thanks ibeardslee 21:43 nengard rangi all fixed 21:44 rangi yay thanks 21:44 eythian hi 21:48 eythian > would name a future business venture together Bywater after Bywater Pool of The Lord of the Rings. 21:48 eythian not Bywater the village that Bywater Pool is named after? 21:50 nengard hmmm 23:29 dcook Hehe. Looking at some of the spam in my inbox, and it's just... 23:29 dcook It doesn't even have a way of suckering you in 23:29 dcook It's just pretty much nonsense