Time  Nick            Message
00:29 dcook           If you just need space, go with AWS?
00:30 dcook           Hmm, I guess that comment was hours ago...
00:33 mtompset        But do you get shell access with AWS? And AWS is hosted in the US. Not keen on the patriot act.
00:33 mtompset        Nor after 180 days its their data.
00:39 dcook           AWS has heaps of servers outside the US
00:40 dcook           Of course, it's an American company, so it might still count under American law?
00:40 dcook           And of course you get shell access with AWS O_o
00:40 dcook           Anywho... *wanders off again*
00:48 dcook           I love when a website has a limit on password length, but it doesn't enforce it in the frontend, which means you create an account with a truncated password... but you don't know at what point they truncated it
00:48 dcook           :D
00:53 bairie          hi..can i request some help here?
00:54 bairie          hello?
00:54 bairie          anyone?
00:54 wahanui         i think anyone is free to organize one at any time :-)
00:54 bairie          is there any koha expert here? need some assistant
00:59 ibeardslee      bairie: normal suggested process is to just ask.
01:00 ibeardslee      people are usually about, although not usually sitting waiting for someone with a problem ;)
01:02 bairie          i have an issue....i hosted a koha system in ubuntu in a vmware
01:02 bairie          recently it was down...when i turn back on....the database only shows data from year 2012
01:03 bairie          there is no latest data up to 2014 /2015
01:03 bairie          how can this happen?
01:06 ibeardslee      first thing to check would be if you running a snapshot of the filesystem as of 2012
01:07 ibeardslee      check dates/times on the system to check that all is ok and you are running the version of koha and ubuntu you expect to be running
01:07 bairie          ibeardslee: i have did that and it's running the existing snapshot
01:08 bairie          and its only snapshot available...there is no other snapshot created previously
01:08 ibeardslee      ok
01:09 bairie          thousands of book records was lost due to this issue...i have no idea how to solve it
01:09 bairie          i'm not even good at mysql
01:10 eythian         bairie: that really sounds like an issue with vmware and its disk images/snapshots. I'd check your system logs and see if the jump in dates is what you'd expect.
01:13 rangi           also if you installed with packages, check /var/spool/koha/
01:13 rangi           for backups
01:13 eythian         but, if vmware did a rollback on you, probably the only option you have is to restore from your external backups.
01:13 rangi           yeah
01:15 bairie          i really not fimiliar with this....
01:16 bairie          and bad thing is there is no backup was done
01:17 bairie          what should i look into  /var/spool/koha? any specific file?
01:17 rangi           what is your koha instance called?
01:17 rangi           actually just do ls /var/spool/koha
01:17 rangi           what is in there?
01:17 bairie          wait....let me go inside the server
01:18 eythian         you had thousands of records with no backups? that sounds like a recipe for disaster. I guess it has to happen to everyone some time...
01:18 eythian         wahanui: backups
01:18 wahanui         backups are every night...and nothing changed this morning
01:18 eythian         hmm, I need to find something more interesting to be that factoid.
01:18 wizzyrea        https://38.media.tumblr.com/84f5706bf380a60b87e7751102d52f0a/tumblr_nnw5r3i8x81se6q8so4_400.gif < why we do backups
01:19 bairie          this server was taken care by an external vendor...because we didnt renew the contract, no maintenance was done...when this vendor come, he said that the database was lost
01:19 wizzyrea        :(
01:20 bairie          however, the vendor did not have any access to the server. so i cannot say it is a sabotage frm the vendor
01:20 eythian         you'd probably only need access to the vmware console to roll back a snapshot
01:21 eythian         however, what you should first verify is if that's what really happened.
01:23 bairie          i have tried to /var/spool/koha but it said no such file or directory
01:23 rangi           darn, not installed via packages
01:23 rangi           the next place to look would by in the /var/log/ directory
01:23 bairie          ok. wait a min
01:23 rangi           maybe take a look at the syslog
01:24 bairie          also return same statement,. no file or directory
01:25 eythian         what did you actually enter?
01:25 eythian         because I've never seen a system with no /var/log director
01:25 eythian         y
01:31 bairie          i have entered /var/log/directory
01:33 rangi           no
01:33 rangi           just try
01:33 rangi           cd /var/log/
01:36 bairie          ive tried this var/log/syslog
01:36 bairie          and i can see all the log
01:36 bairie          so which i should check
01:36 eythian         the dates
01:36 wahanui         the dates are in format yyyy-mm-dd
01:36 eythian         see what the date before the recent dates is.
01:37 rangi           ls -l
01:37 rangi           should show you the dates
01:38 eythian         well I was thinking the dates inside the file, that way you can tell the last shutdown before the recent startup
01:39 rangi           ah yep that would be good to check too
01:40 bairie          ok..i can see the date...so what i need to do next?
01:40 eythian         What do the dates tell you about the system and the missing data?
01:40 rangi           what is the date?
01:40 wahanui         it has been said that the date is circled ;)
01:42 bairie          there are so many file here,....which one i should referred?
01:43 rangi           are there any that have 2012 ?
01:43 rangi           they should all be 2015
01:43 bairie          a lot....
01:43 wahanui         well, a lot is possible already without having to rewrite the templates
01:43 eythian         syslog usually has the most stuff in it
01:43 rangi           then yes, its definitely a vmware problem, try looking inside the syslog
01:44 rangi           but if lots of the files are still 2012 then its likely you restored a snapshot from 2012 by accident, or vmware did something broken
01:44 bairie          syslog got two files here...syslog and syslog.1
01:45 bairie          but this two files dates are dated today
01:45 wizzyrea        yeah, you booted it today :/
01:45 eythian         have a look inside the files
01:45 eythian         they have dates in there
01:47 bairie          owh shit...i need a root pwd
01:47 bairie          only the vendor knows
01:48 eythian         do you have an account with sudo?
01:48 eythian         it'll be hard to do much without a root password.
01:50 bairie          sudo dont have.....try to find the root pwd
01:52 * Francesca     waves
01:54 Francesca       wizzyrea, rangi you guys around?
01:54 wizzyrea        a bit, sup?
01:54 Francesca       not much
01:55 Francesca       I thought I'd just let u know that I can't spend much time on here atm
01:55 Francesca       unis really busy so I won't be able to get a lot of work done till mid year break
01:55 wizzyrea        ah yeah, school comes first :)
01:56 Francesca       I'll try and stick my head in during mid year
01:57 wizzyrea        that would be cool :D
01:57 Francesca       but in the mean time I'll do little bits of work and stuff in between school work
01:58 bairie          ahhh shitt....what is the su password...
02:01 wizzyrea        bairie: try katikoan
02:03 wizzyrea        (for the root password)
02:04 bairie          wizzyrea: nope
02:04 bairie          doesnt wor
02:04 bairie          work
02:06 wizzyrea        bummer, I was kinda hoping.
02:09 bairie          aaarghhh....
02:09 dcook           You could probably just reset your root password if the server is just for Koha
02:09 eythian         yeah, if you can get console access to it, you could reset it.
02:10 eythian         Not convinced it'll help though, my money is on something happening at the vmware layer.
02:10 * dcook         did this at Kohacon13 before realizing that he'd been typing in the wrong password all along and that he actually knew what the password was... d'oh
02:10 eythian         Linux/mysql doesn't just forget a chunk of data.
02:10 dcook           ^
02:10 wizzyrea        but not having an up-to-date snapshot would.
02:11 dcook           I'm also curious about "the database only shows data from year 2012"
02:11 dcook           Which table in the database?
02:11 dcook           How is one seeing this data?
02:11 dcook           mysql commandline? mysql query browser? Koha?
02:11 bairie          i not fimiliar with koha...that's why asking ur guys whether i can retrieved back the latest database
02:11 * Francesca     laughs at dcooks password story
02:12 Francesca       I've done the same thing before
02:12 dcook           Francesca: Hehe. I ended up resetting it to the exact same password that it was before :p
02:12 eythian         bairie: you need to have something to recover from to get the latest data back.
02:12 eythian         you need to have that data somewhere
02:12 Francesca       you can do that?
02:12 dcook           bairie: Also, what data are you looking at that makes you think it's from 2012?
02:12 dcook           Francesca: Hmm?
02:12 Francesca       some things (apple) make you choose a new password everytime
02:12 rangi           dcook: the logs are from 2012 .. the whole machine is from 2012
02:13 Francesca       and I always forget my apple password
02:13 bairie          ok...when the librarian open their database to check on book loan and book data entry
02:13 * Francesca     waves at rangi
02:13 bairie          it just shows record on 2012
02:13 dcook           Francesca: Ahh, yeah. This was just the system root password
02:13 Francesca       ok
02:13 bairie          no data on the latest database
02:13 bairie          even the books record also was on 2012
02:13 dcook           rangi: Ah. I didn't notice that in the scrollback.
02:14 rangi           bairie: you would need a back up of the database .. and you could restore from that, but without a back up, or a recent snapshot there really is nothing you can do
02:14 dcook           ^
02:14 bairie          understand that rangi. but how come database could be loss? and rollback to 2012? if lost...should be lost everything rite?
02:15 rangi           no
02:15 rangi           its not just the database
02:15 rangi           its everything
02:15 bairie          system was setup on 2011.....
02:15 rangi           somehow you/vmware restored a snapshot from 2012
02:15 wizzyrea        everything on the machine, right now, is from the last snapshot, which was in 2012
02:15 wizzyrea        at least, that's what the evidence you've presented suggests.
02:16 bairie          in vmware, if the machine was not proper shutdown, it will be created a snapshot...even i use this snapshot, data still in 2012
02:16 bairie          same with the original image currently used
02:16 rangi           yep, so before that latest snapshot, it was restored to 2012
02:17 rangi           the short story is, it is not a koha problem, but a vmware one .. so we can't help im sorry, you will probably need to find a vmware expert
02:18 rangi           i would also try asking the support company you stopped paying if they have any backups
02:18 rangi           but without a 2015 snapshot .. or backups .. there is not really anything we can do, if you had a db backup we could tell you how to load that in, but without the backup we cant help
02:19 rangi           im sorry
02:19 bairie          ok wait...i think i can access the syslog...
02:19 bairie          what i need to find inside?
02:20 rangi           what the syslog will do is confirm that the snapshot it restored from was 2012, it wont let you fix it
02:20 rangi           but you can look back in the file, and see what the dates in it are
02:20 wizzyrea        if it goes 2012, 2012, 2012, 2012, 2015, you'll know.
02:20 bairie          any keyword?
02:21 bairie          got two syslog here....
02:21 bairie          syslong and syslog.1
02:21 bairie          which one
02:21 wahanui         which one is that? The fixed navbar?
02:21 rangi           id look at syslog.1
02:22 bairie          then i should see which date? the incident date
02:22 bairie          rite?
02:22 * Francesca     waves goodbye
02:22 eythian         the date of the log entries
02:22 eythian         every log entry has a date
02:23 eythian         when is the last date before 2015 in those files, and how does it correspond with what you expect
02:23 bairie          a lot...need to scroll down
02:24 eythian         yes, you will need to scroll a lot
02:24 bairie          last record only for yesterday
02:24 eythian         yesterday is still in 2015
02:24 bairie          there is no record on the incident date
02:24 bairie          i mean the log
02:24 bairie          not the database
02:25 wizzyrea        there won't be, because all of that data is gone.
02:25 eythian         what is the date at the top of the file?
02:25 bairie          may 7th
02:25 eythian         what file are you looking in?
02:26 bairie          im not sure....thats u guys ask me to do
02:26 bairie          open the syslog
02:26 bairie          and im not sure what file to look at
02:26 eythian         yes, and you said there are two files
02:26 eythian         what one did you actually end up looking in?
02:26 bairie          i open syslog.1
02:26 bairie          as u said
02:26 bairie          sorry...rangi ask me to look at syslog.1
02:27 eythian         ok, so try syslog.2.gz
02:27 bairie          wait
02:27 bairie          ok...what i should find here?
02:28 eythian         the dates. still the dates.
02:28 bairie          on the top is may 6th
02:28 eythian         so you've been running this for quite a while before discovering the issue?
02:28 bairie          yes
02:28 eythian         how long?
02:28 bairie          3 months
02:29 bairie          it was happen on 30th mar
02:29 eythian         then anything useful is almost certainly gone
02:29 bairie          so like 1 month plus
02:29 eythian         OK, so you probably don't have useful log data.
02:30 eythian         If you have no external backups, and vmware doesn't have a more correct snapshot somewhere, your data is almost certainly gone.
02:30 bairie          owh ok...so there is no way i can retrieve back the database rite?
02:30 wizzyrea        not if you don't have a backup :(
02:30 eythian         you don't have the database, vmware has presumably swallowed it.
02:31 bairie          can this database stored somewhere in the koha mysql folder or something?
02:32 eythian         if you use packages, then it's backed up elsewhere on the system. But you've been running it with bad data for three months, any backups would have long rolled over.
02:32 wizzyrea        by default it only keeps 2 days
02:32 eythian         Also, if it is (as it looks) an old snapshot, then all that would be gone anyway.
02:32 bairie          i have access the mysql log
02:32 eythian         because snapshots apply to the whole disk
02:33 wizzyrea        I'm sorry, as far as we can tell, it's gone.
02:33 eythian         yes, but if you have only what is on that machine, it is all gone because everything since 2012 has gone from that machine.
02:33 bairie          on 2nd April...got error said database not properly shutdown..starting crash recovery
02:33 bairie          is that mean anything?
02:33 eythian         dunno.
02:34 eythian         we still don't have really enough information to do much more than speculate.
02:34 wizzyrea        the time for recovery is long since past, it would seem.
02:34 bairie          the sequence data in ibdata files not match...thats the error written
02:36 eythian         that suggests that mysql was improperly shut down at some point.
02:36 eythian         the crash recovery stuff should fix that.
02:37 bairie          ok..it seems that i cannot do anything with the database
02:37 bairie          thanks for ur help guys
02:37 eythian         np, pity it wasn't useful
02:37 bairie          just wondering whether this koha can be work with RDA?
02:38 eythian         I think there's some support in the newest versions, but I'm not sure how complete it is
02:38 wizzyrea        it's getting better
02:38 wizzyrea        answer is: koha can ingest RDA
02:38 wizzyrea        and it's getting better at displaying it
02:38 wizzyrea        you might need a framework
02:38 wizzyrea        RDA framework?
02:38 wahanui         rumour has it RDA framework is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/File:Export_RDA.sql
02:39 wizzyrea        ^ you can get it from there
02:41 dcook           I think that one is out of date nowadays
02:41 wizzyrea        Oh?
02:41 wizzyrea        you should update it if you have a newer one ;)
02:41 dcook           Hehe. True as.
02:41 dcook           We actually had some outdated RDA frameworks, so my to do list has a task for double-checking frameworks here
02:41 dcook           I'll have to remember the wiki one as well
02:42 bairie          any of u have done it?
02:43 dcook           Yeah, we have heaps of libraries using RDA
02:44 dcook           All you need is an up-to-date MARC Bibliographic Framework
02:44 dcook           We use custom displays that allow clients to show RDA fields which aren't necessarily shown at the moment in Koha
02:44 bairie          ok...i will go throug the docs
02:44 bairie          i will come here if i got prob
02:44 bairie          thanks guys!!
02:47 wizzyrea        good luck - oh drat he's gone.
02:57 mtompset        ARG! Why do I find more bugs when I am looking at bugs.
02:58 mtompset        wizzyrea: Want a good laugh? take a look at C4/Biblio.pm look for sub TransformHtmlToXml. Notice the parameter list. Try looking for ind_tag in the file, and then laugh and cry.
02:58 wizzyrea        I try not to look in there.
02:59 wizzyrea        ^.^
02:59 mtompset        maybe dcook is crazy enough? :)
03:05 dcook           Nah, I'm heaps busy atm
03:05 dcook           yo pianohacker
03:05 dcook           Come on DSpace... I have the extra dependencies installed already... just work, son
03:05 mtompset        Greetings, pianohacker.
03:06 mtompset        Oh Lord God of computing be merciful to dcook. :)
03:06 pianohacker     hallo
03:11 mtompset        pianohacker: Care to confirm that many a program are trying to get and pass a non-existent ind_tag parameter? :)
03:11 pianohacker     mtompset: that rings vague bells
03:15 mtompset        Hey, papa  found it last year.
03:16 papa            eh, what?
03:16 wahanui         eh, are there other packages than Debian?
03:16 mtompset        I was looking at bug 13180
03:16 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13180 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Failed QA , Errors when acquiring from the new improved staged file, empty indicator warning
03:16 mtompset        When I noticed something cringe worthy in C4/Biblio.pm
03:17 mtompset        ind_tag wasn't even used.
03:17 mtompset        That's when I decided to search for ind_tag, and I found your bug 11247 papa
03:17 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11247 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Remove unused params from TransformHtmlToXml()
03:17 papa            ah that one
03:17 mtompset        Why did you remove indicators though?
03:18 papa            yeah, painful :)
03:18 mtompset        ind_tag is obviously not used.
03:19 mtompset        From what I can tell, it should be used, but whether it gets passed and processed properly is another issue. :)
03:19 mtompset        I see lots of indicator1 indicator2 type things on template files.
03:20 papa            well sure, at least I sparked some interest ;)
03:20 papa            it was a long time ago...
03:28 * mtompset      grumbles.
03:28 mtompset        We don't even have any test coverage of the TransformHtmlToXml function.
03:30 pianohacker     ...
03:30 pianohacker     that function name alone fills me with terror and doubt
03:30 papa            didn't I make some when doing that too many calls to item details thing?
03:31 mtompset        Nothing in master.
03:31 papa            ah yes, still in the process
03:32 papa            anyway, I thought indicators were an abandoned concept, so if I'm wrong please destroy that bug
03:32 mtompset        pianohacker: You are too funny. :)
03:32 mtompset        No, it is a useful bug... ind_tag isn't used at all.
03:33 mtompset        Could you post what tests, if any, you have on the bug?
03:37 papa            zilch
03:39 papa            sorry, I'm doing some node.js and my brain is vapourised, it was XSLTParse4Display()
03:45 mtompset        No, TransformHtmlToXml
03:45 mtompset        Oh... your work.
03:45 papa            yeah, I confused it]
03:45 mtompset        Never mind.
03:45 wahanui         Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
03:45 mtompset        Anyways. I should sleep.
03:46 wizzyrea        papa: they are making you do note.js now?
03:46 Francesca       good afternoon
03:46 wizzyrea        node.js I mean
03:46 wizzyrea        hi Francesca
03:46 Francesca       my kitties are slowly destroying a box
03:46 mtompset        2048. ;)
03:46 Francesca       and I am procrastinating badly on a journal
03:46 wizzyrea        I'm told that's a thing cats do ^.^
03:47 Francesca       it is
03:47 papa            yeah, perl is not cool enough for fairfax any more
03:47 mtompset        Have a great day, #koha wizzyrea papa Francesca
03:47 ibeardslee      papa: fairfax .. aren't they a news site without grammar, spelling and fact checkers?
03:48 papa            yep, that lot
03:49 * Francesca     waves at ibeardslee
04:03 * ibeardslee    waves back
04:10 Francesca       ibeardslee: sup
04:26 * Francesca     waves at cdickinson
04:26 cdickinson      you're a sight for sore eyes
04:27 cdickinson      hi Francesca, just got destroyed by a test :P
04:27 Francesca       what kinda test?
04:28 cdickinson      a Mobile Computing one
04:28 Francesca       fun
04:28 cdickinson      basically on all that sort of technology, honours-level stuff. It was hell
04:28 Francesca       I have a harmony test on monday
04:28 Francesca       I can imagine
04:29 cdickinson      :P
04:29 cdickinson      Harmnony test? what's that going to be like?
04:30 cdickinson      Harmony*
04:30 cdickinson      can't even spell properly
04:35 cdickinphone    Whoops
04:42 Francesca       interesting
04:42 wahanui         somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
04:43 Francesca       wahanui has the right idea
04:43 wahanui         Francesca: huh?
04:43 Francesca       anyone around?
04:49 cdickinphone    Just
04:51 cdickinphone    Popped out for a bit
04:52 Francesca       oh good I have company
05:56 * magnuse       waves
05:57 eythian         hi magnuse
06:07 magnuse         kia ora eythian
06:08 magnuse         beer o'clock came and went already?
06:08 eythian         well, there's a fresh hop thing happening at a bar here that I'm thinking of heading to, but beer o'clock was looking pretty quiet today.
06:27 dcook           Beer, beer, beer
06:27 * dcook         isn't sure what else to contribute
06:27 cdickinson      did someone say... beer? :D
06:46 magnuse         hooray for bgkriegel!
07:37 dcook           Laterz all
07:41 cait            hi markvandenborre
07:41 cait            oh
07:41 cait            was looking for marcelr :)
08:15 magnuse         MARC--
10:59 markvandenborre cait: hi you too
10:59 markvandenborre even if it was meant for marcelr
10:59 markvandenborre I remember you being really helpful when I was setting up koha for our music academ
10:59 markvandenborre y
11:10 drojf           hi #koha
11:16 magnuse         moin drojf
11:16 drojf           hei magnuse
11:29 kivilahtio      Any idea is the  UseTransportCostMatrix  used anywhere?
11:29 kivilahtio      afaik in 3.16 it does nothing
11:31 kivilahtio      Also I need to implement similar floating control for Items than the transport cost matrix is
11:33 kivilahtio      But I donät know should the floating be controlled by a matrix or a view like "Library Transfer Limits"
11:34 kivilahtio      I think I'll take the matrix because they are much more informative
11:35 cait            kivilahtio: it is used to my knowledge yes
11:36 cait            did you turn it on?
11:36 cait            there is also a whole set of unit tests for it
11:40 drojf           how is the policy these days? can i enhance something in a C4 module.pm file, or does it have to go out of C4 then?
11:42 drojf           that is probably a cait question ;)
11:46 cait            huh?
11:46 cait            you can enhance, but has to be covered by a unit test
11:46 drojf           you are ruler of QA land, aren't you?
11:46 cait            heh, but not RM
11:46 cait            that would be my take on it
11:47 cait            as long as enh is not implementing something completely new
11:47 drojf           oh those tests i never learned how to do
11:47 drojf           no it's adding youtube to the video streaming. it's a pretty small patch actually
11:48 magnuse         yay
11:48 drojf           @later tell nengard got a youtube video working with direct access to the web file (the first option we talked about). :) http://abunchofthings.net/koha/dev/koha-youtube.png
11:48 huginn`         drojf: The operation succeeded.
11:49 drojf           it adds a dependency that is packaged in jessie, but not in wheezy though :/
11:52 magnuse         drojf: is it any chance that could be violating the terms of service? if you are playing youtube video without the "overlay interface"? or am i getting the wrong impression from that screengrab?
11:52 magnuse         i don't know the terms of service, it just struck me as something they might not like
11:54 drojf           magnuse: i am not sure, i was wondering about that too. what is catalogued, is the regular url. the link to the webm file that is played is resolved on the fly, as it is not persistent, IP address bound and i don't know what other crazy things more. that is basically what is done once you open the website direcly in your browser and don't use flash
11:55 magnuse         sounds like a nice piece of wizzardry :-)
11:56 drojf           that yould break immediately if youtube changes something ^^
11:58 drojf           the other option would be a new, exclusive youtube feature doing the regular youtube embedding that you find on blogs and stuff. but it would be a new feature, way less cool (i think :P) and people lose control over what is actually loaded/displayed in koha.
12:14 magnuse         trur
12:14 magnuse         true
12:19 bag             :)
12:21 drojf           what are you so happy about, bag? :P
12:21 cait            bag is always happy :P
12:21 bag             :)
12:21 bag             heh
12:21 bag             espresso machine is at temp so I can make espresso
12:23 drojf           oh. i should make an espresso too
12:23 xarragon        I am too lazy; I just drink hot water.
12:23 drojf           lol
12:26 * liw           has a thermos full of tea, brewed from leaves, and sips it while waiting for the work day to end
12:28 magnuse         bag: HI
12:28 bag             good day magnuse
12:37 magnuse         bag: yes so it is, against all odds
12:39 drojf           rule 2.4 of the youtube TOS says i should print the TOS. i am not reading this ^^
12:40 drojf           can't we hire a lawyer to read it, please?
12:45 drojf           actually i would argue those things are relevant to a library offering streams via youtube, not to koha as a project
12:54 drojf           "you agree not to access Content through any technology or means other than the video playback pages of the Website itself, the YouTube Player, or such other means as YouTube may explicitly designate for this purpose;"
12:54 drojf           "you agree not to (or attempt to) circumvent, disable or otherwise interfere with any security related features of the Service or features that (i) prevent or restrict use or copying of Content or (ii) enforce limitations on use of the Service or the content accessible via the Service;"
13:00 drojf           how would i know what "security related features" they use?
15:16 mtompset        @seen tcohen
15:16 huginn`         mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 49 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <tcohen> LOL
15:17 mtompset        Greetings, #koha.
15:33 chris_n         heya mtompset
15:33 wahanui         mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry.
15:33 mtompset        @later tell tcohen I was noting https://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2011-September/030492.html
15:33 huginn`         mtompset: The operation succeeded.
15:34 * chris_n       did not realize there were non-coding aspects to life... ;-)
15:34 mtompset        Greetings, chris_n
15:34 mtompset        Well, I survive based on donations.
15:35 mtompset        So, I need to talk with people about the ministry I'm involved in. :)
15:35 * chris_n       wishes his zebra would just get over it
15:36 chris_n         any idea what's going on here: 11:34:05-08/05 zebraidx(11939) [warn] No such record type: dom./home/cnighswonger/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config.xml
15:37 chris_n         or if it would cause searching to return no results after a reindex?
15:38 mtompset        Click the link I just told tcohen.
15:38 mtompset        I know how to solve that. :)
15:38 mtompset        the path is wrong.
15:38 mtompset        you need to edit the cfg files to point to the correct path.
15:39 mtompset        64-bit installs use lib64 not lib. :)
15:50 chris_n         strange, but on this ubuntu install the zebra modules appear in /usr/lib
15:51 chris_n         and changing the path does not fix things up... weird
15:53 mtompset        really?!
15:54 mtompset        So the path entered matches where the modules actually are?
15:54 chris_n         yup
15:55 chris_n         /usr/lib/libidzebra-2.0.so.0
15:55 chris_n         /usr/lib/libidzebra-2.0.so.0.0.1
15:55 chris_n         # modulePath - where to look for loadable zebra modules
15:55 chris_n         modulePath: /usr/lib
17:11 chris_n         so it turns out that the zebra modules were not installed in-spite of installing idzebra-2.0
17:12 chris_n         now they are at: /usr/lib/idzebra-2.0/modules
17:12 chris_n         and now I get the extremely descriptive error: zebraidx(3173) [warn] extract error: generic
17:12 chris_n         generic--
17:12 mtompset        Boo.
17:15 chris_n         so here is a little more intelligence
17:15 chris_n         13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: Entity: line 188:
17:15 chris_n         13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: parser
17:15 chris_n         13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: error :
17:15 chris_n         13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: Extra content at the end of the document
17:15 chris_n         13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: <record
17:15 chris_n         13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [log] XML: ^
17:15 chris_n         13:14:22-08/05 zebraidx(3455) 8077a945737f0000 [warn] extract error: generic
17:15 chris_n         looks like a corrupt record
17:16 mtompset        Haven't encountered that. Sorry.
17:16 * chris_n       has
17:16 chris_n         its just been soooo long ago
17:17 mtompset        chris_n: Are you sure that they are not in ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/idzebra-2.0/modules?
17:18 mtompset        Because mine have some weirdness like that. :)
17:19 chris_n         nothing there
17:19 mtompset        Enjoy your corrupted record.
17:19 chris_n         Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
17:19 chris_n         here
17:19 mtompset        I need to step out.
17:20 mtompset        $ vi ~/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg
17:20 mtompset        $ echo modulePath: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/idzebra-2.0/modules
17:23 mtompset        Anyone who can tweak the zebra-biblios.cfg for the Jenkins D8... please look into doing something like that.
17:48 chris_n         @later tell khall I'll have to hold off on testing 14167 due to a stubborn zebra instance
17:48 huginn`         chris_n: The operation succeeded.
19:15 wnickc          ashimema:  around?
19:28 wnickc          ah, time differences, weekend :)
19:53 mtompset        wnickc: I suppose so. :_
19:53 mtompset        :)
20:10 mtompset        lovely dumps and rejoins. :)
20:19 indradg         hello #koha
20:36 mtompset        Greetings, indradg. :)
20:36 indradg         hiya mtompset
21:21 mtompset        indradg: Care to try a tat on bug 13673? :)
21:21 huginn`         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13673 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Remove warnings from t/db_dependent/Barcodes.t
21:22 indradg         on it
21:26 mtompset        thanks. :)
22:57 indradg         hi anyone around?