Time  Nick           Message
00:18 dcook          Boo Koha. Why you timing out on me trying to update..
00:18 wizzyrea       maybe do it from the command line?
00:18 dcook          Good call. I always forget that a person can do that.
00:19 dcook          Hmm...
00:19 eythian        the update process ought to be ajaxy where possible, to stop the timeout stuff.
00:19 eythian        also you can show realtime progress
00:19 dcook          PDF::FromHTML is marked as not required, but it definitely is throwing a fatal error..
00:19 eythian        yep.
00:19 eythian        bug 8007
00:19 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8007 new feature, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Discharge management
00:20 dcook          :S
00:21 dcook          That's...
00:22 dcook          Why is Koha::Borrower::Discharge being loaded on the mainpage.pl :S
00:23 dcook          Ahh, I see. That's...
00:24 rangi          yeah im not a fan of the discharge work
00:24 dcook          Can't say I am either :/
00:24 dcook          I remember seeing the emails, but I didn't know it was so pervasive :S
00:26 dcook          I mean... no one outside of France would ever use this, yeah?
00:26 rangi          yeah, i find it unlikely
00:26 dcook          Seems like a lot of dependencies and integration for something many people will never use..
00:26 rangi          probably would have been better as a plugin
00:26 dcook          I was just thinking that
00:33 dcook          Ahh, turns out it doesn't need python. That's cool. I didn't realize that.
00:45 dcook          Whew, at least master is fixed for that html issue I was having before..
00:45 * dcook        loves when that happens :)
01:02 dcook          Huh... I didn't know that POE was a required dependency in Koha
01:02 dcook          Hmm... maybe I'll use it sometime...
01:03 dcook          bug 11757
01:03 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11757 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , dependency on POE is not longer necessary
01:03 dcook          Maybe not :p
01:05 dcook          I was actually thinking it might be handy for the OAI Harvester...
01:30 mtj_           hey peepz
01:31 mtj_           eythian: i'll aim to pull those jessie patches today
01:33 mtj_           ..thanks for the heads-up :0)
02:14 * dcook        is intrigued by how much Australia and New Zealand seem to compete over the origins of pavlova and lamingtons.
02:14 * dcook        just had his first real pavlova last week
02:14 dcook          Well, real "Australian" pavlova perhaps. Still haven't been to New Zealand..
02:16 eythian        just don't mention phar lap, dcook.
02:18 dcook          O_O
02:18 eythian        I do not understand the need for PDF::Writer at all.
02:18 eythian        it's just a wrapper for other APIs
02:18 ibeardslee     dcook: I assume that because we put kiwifruit on the pavola in NZ, the aussies put kangaroo 'fruits'?
02:18 eythian        but we're able to choose what APIs we get to use.
02:18 eythian        ibeardslee: they're called desert oysters.
02:18 dcook          ibeardlee: hehe
02:19 ibeardslee     and ignore my spelling
02:19 ibeardslee     eythian: heh
02:19 dcook          My word sense is awful today, so I'm surprised that I'm even coherent at the moment
02:20 ibeardslee     .. really? was that supposed to make sense?
02:20 ibeardslee     ;)
02:20 dcook          :P
02:20 dcook          eythian: that does look weird :/
02:21 dcook          And... it just uses PDF::API2 anyway, I assume?
02:22 eythian        yeah
02:22 dcook          I suppose I can't really fault folks for PDF::FromHTML itself though...
02:22 eythian        oh
02:22 dcook          I think I was a bit too impatient to use PDF::API2 directly, so I ended up using a PHP HTML to PDF type thing for a project
02:22 eythian        I suppose that PDF::FromHTML is what really needs it
02:23 dcook          Yeah, did you see my comment?
02:23 eythian        no
02:23 dcook          PDF::FromHTML pulls in PDF::Writer, the graphics module, Image::Size, and maybe something else?
02:23 dcook          Don't know why Tomas included HTML::Tidy as a dependency... as I haven't seen it and it isn't a dependency for PDF::FromHTML?
02:23 dcook          Unless we already have it installed... then maybe it is...
02:24 * dcook        should check before he talks
02:24 eythian        dcook: I don't really care, I can totally ignore that one and let stuff work itself out.
02:24 dcook          Yeah, I guess we already had it installed..
02:24 dcook          Yeah?
02:24 dcook          Didn't know that. Awesome :)
02:24 eythian        well, the dependency list is autogenerated based on the PerlDependencies file
02:25 dcook          Actually, I commented about that too
02:25 eythian        so if I regenerate it, and dependencies aren't listed there, that's not my problem.
02:25 dcook          At the moment, PDF::FromHTML is marked as not required, although it's totes required
02:25 eythian        I make a bug and let whoever did it wrong in the first place sort it out.
02:25 eythian        yeah
02:25 eythian        that a bug.
02:26 dcook          That was my thought. Wasn't sure if I should post a follow-up or let the original author do it
02:26 eythian        up to you
02:27 dcook          Whelp, I commented. If someone else doesn't do it in the next few days, then I'll do one
02:27 eythian        yeah
02:27 dcook          Too many things to work on at the moment :(
02:28 dcook          Looks like some folks might want to sponsor the OAI harvester, so that might be nice
02:28 dcook          I think it's actually almost completely functional.
02:28 eythian        they need to be careful with that, my dependencies generator script will ignore things that aren't marked as required if it can't find a package for them.
02:28 eythian        cool
02:28 dcook          Not bad for having had zero support so far :)
02:29 dcook          eythian: Yeah, I was wondering about that
02:44 eythian        the author of one of these modules is 唐鳳. Let's see how well debian's systems handles unicode.
02:44 eythian        (fairly well, would be my expectation tbh)
02:48 dcook          Actually, I was parsing some data I have about my musical tastes...
02:48 dcook          And somehow the Japanese characters were output nicer than the latin ones with accents
02:49 dcook          As in, the Japanese characters were output correctly, while the French was replaced with blurred characters
02:49 eythian        that means that your font doesn't have the accents, so it goes and finds one that does that's close.
02:49 eythian        and that can end up looking weird
02:50 dcook          Yeah, that was my thought
02:50 dcook          As it was trying to force it into iso-whatever
02:50 dcook          I assume it gave up on the Japanese and just said "Fine, I'll output utf8"?
02:50 dcook          I think I used binmode to force it to output utf8 in the end and all was well in any case
02:51 eythian        well, it would have had to look further to find a japanese supporting font, I guess
02:51 eythian        and it just happened that was a nice looking one
02:52 dcook          Hmm, interesting
02:52 wahanui        interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad
02:52 dcook          Exactly, wahanui. Exactly.
03:07 eythian        OK, one package sent to debian for review.
03:08 dcook          \o/
03:08 eythian        oh
03:08 eythian        I missed things
03:08 eythian        I always miss something
03:10 eythian        in this case, committing my changes before sending it to upstream...
03:10 dcook          I feel like this is the moment to heckle
03:10 dcook          But I don't want to heckle
03:10 dcook          :p
03:35 wizzyrea       no, eythian is not deserving of heckles
03:37 eythian        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFo332Y5uIA
03:37 dcook          wizzyrea: Exactly
03:38 dcook          eythian: hehe
03:38 eythian        (unrelated, just the song that came on my playlist that I quite like :)
03:38 dcook          :P
03:39 dcook          I don't think I've ever actually listened to Anathema
03:39 dcook          Always meant to... or always thought that I had?
03:39 * dcook        thinks that he knows someone who is going to see them soon or recently has seen them...
03:40 eythian        oh yeah?
03:40 eythian        where?
03:40 dcook          Either in Canada, America, or Australia? :p
03:40 * dcook        needs to keep track of his contacts better
03:40 dcook          or New Zealand, if you saw/are seeing them :p
03:40 eythian        not me
03:41 dcook          Hmm
03:41 eythian        I'd totally go if they came here
03:41 dcook          Oh!
03:41 dcook          I know now
03:41 dcook          They're going to be in Sydney in October
03:41 dcook          A friend from Canberra is coming for the show
03:41 dcook          Apparently they'll be in Christchurch
03:41 dcook          23 Oct
03:41 dcook          Auckland Oct 24
03:41 eythian        yeah
03:42 dcook          Oct is soon, yeah?
03:42 dcook          :p
03:42 eythian        heh
03:42 eythian        they're not coming to Wellington annoyingly
03:43 eythian        I wonder if I should consider going to Akl or to Syd...
03:43 eythian        hell, or Melbourne, but it's been longer since I've been in Syd.
03:44 dcook          Woo. Come to Syd!
03:46 dcook          I actually have a few friends from Canada who are going to be in New Zealand around then. I'd almost thought of going over to NZ to grab beers with them
03:46 dcook          Oh, if you have Wellington beer/bar recommendations I'd love to hear them
03:46 dcook          Sean loooves his beer
03:46 dcook          And I'll file them for my own reference :p
03:46 eythian        dcook: haha
03:47 eythian        do I have beer recommendations.
03:47 eythian        you fool.
03:48 dcook          hehe
03:48 dcook          I knew you would, but the Canadian in me had to say "if"
03:48 dcook          It's like we have to downplay everything out of politeness or something
03:48 dcook          Actually, I'm starting to think maybe it's a Canadian prairie thing than just a Canadian thing
03:49 dcook          I think Canadians from the prairies are some of the nicest people around
03:49 dcook          You know... when they're not trying to fight your hockey team
03:50 dcook          That's actually a pretty catchy song
03:50 dcook          I think I might play it again...
03:57 eythian        there's a link for the whole concert below
03:57 eythian        if that's OK quality, go for htat.
04:01 wizzyrea       generally speaking, prairie people are pretty nice, I've found. When they're not trying to shoot your face off with their concealed weapon. Maybe that's just Kansans.
04:04 eythian        dozens of lintian errors from PDF::FromHTML :(
04:07 eythian        mostly POD errors though
04:07 eythian        but that's still annoying
04:11 dcook          That sucks :(
04:11 dcook          wizzyrea: Yeah, there are heaps of negative things I could say about back home as well. I suppose I have rose tinted glasses sometimes
04:11 dcook          Not too many concealed weapons though. If someone is shooting at you, it's probably with a rifle from the back of a truck
04:12 dcook          Which really only happened once outside my hometown as far as I know
04:12 wizzyrea       this seems like an essential difference :P
04:12 dcook          hehe
04:12 wizzyrea       mind you, things are different there now even from when I was there
04:12 wizzyrea       worse.
04:12 dcook          I'd actually like to see Saskatchewan now. I always got the impression that things were getting better
04:13 dcook          Well, socially
04:13 dcook          Economically, things were just weird
04:13 dcook          Well, unreasonably expensive and weird
04:13 * dcook        went to uni at the right time
04:21 dcook          Oh snap
04:21 dcook          That moment when you notice all those Youtube playlists from years ago that you had forgotten about
04:23 dcook          Keep thinking I need to resurrect my previous plans to build an app to manage my music metadata...
04:24 dcook          yo magnuse
04:24 dcook          also yo aleisha :)
04:24 aleisha        heya dcook
04:26 * magnuse      waves
04:31 wizzyrea       oh what was that thing I learned about the other day that was supposed to be god's gift to file deduplicating...
04:32 eythian        http://paste.koha-community.org/86 <-- the errors from this stupid PDF::FromHTML package
04:33 wizzyrea       drat I can't find it
04:35 mtompset       Greetings, #koha.
04:35 dcook          AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
04:35 dcook          Yay for old youtube playlists!
04:35 dcook          I've been looking for this song for soooo long!
04:35 dcook          And keyword search has so not helped at all
04:37 dcook          Also, yo mtompset
04:37 dcook          wizzyrea: That sounds interesting
04:37 mtompset       What song?
04:37 wahanui        song is somewhat infectious.  The video is a lot of vintage baseball footage, a baseball trivia geek's dream come true.
04:38 mtompset       Greetings, dcook.
04:39 dcook          Faith by Ronley Teper
04:39 dcook          It's been an earworm for years now
04:41 wizzyrea       https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/594719192852467712 this one dcook
04:42 wizzyrea       vaguely related to your metadata issue
04:43 dcook          Interesting!
04:43 wahanui        i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
04:46 mtompset       Question. Has anyone actually implement something like what is described in bug 10105?
04:46 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10105 new feature, P5 - low, ---, indradg, ASSIGNED , Gate register module
04:49 dcook          Not really the kind of thing our libraries do
04:50 mtompset       I figure it is like a gym thing, tap to go in, maybe tap (or not) to go out.
04:50 wizzyrea       you could ask Indra
04:51 mtompset       I have. Awaiting a reply. :)
04:52 mtompset       I was also trying to play with the EDS koha plugin.
04:52 mtompset       Can't see to get the run tool to run.
04:53 mtompset       I'm thinking I need some apache configuration.
04:54 dcook          I think the EDS plugin has a few extra bits, yeah
04:54 dcook          I think you need to override your C4::Auth as well to get it to work
04:54 dcook          overwrite*
04:55 mtompset       And I think it might be 3.16 limited.
04:57 dcook          Probably
04:57 dcook          I think there have been a few versions released over the years
04:57 dcook          I think the first was for 3.12
05:24 eythian        .\" Accent mark definitions (@(#)ms.acc 1.5 88/02/08 SMI; from UCB 4.2).
05:24 eythian        .\" Fear.  Run.  Save yourself.  No user-serviceable parts.
05:29 mtompset       You have got to be kidding me... LWP::Simple's get() doesn't do https?!
05:30 eythian        https is rarely considered simple
05:34 mtompset       fine, fine... but the EDS plugin busts, because the run tool won't run the https URLs.
05:35 eythian        perhaps there's something else that needs to be installed for it
05:35 eythian        that rings a bell actually
05:36 mtompset       I've got LWP::Protocol::HTTPS installed.
05:38 mtompset       Well, it's late. I'm going to give up.
05:39 eythian        package or cpan?
05:39 mtompset       A plugin shouldn't require this much effort to get working.
05:39 mtompset       package.
05:39 wahanui        package is, like, 'perldoc'
05:39 eythian        https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/perl/liblwp-protocol-https-perl <-- do you have this too?
05:39 mtompset       and the cpan version isn't newer.
05:39 eythian        err
05:39 eythian        this:	libcrypt-ssleay-perl
05:40 eythian        although, it oughtn't be necessary, but who know
05:40 eythian        s
05:40 mtompset       yes.
05:41 eythian        dunno then. We're using the plugin in prod successfully, I can't remember doing any magic to make it work, but maybe there was some.
05:43 mtompset       perhaps you have an earlier version of the plug in.
05:43 mtompset       They only added the https stuff in the recent version, I think.
05:43 eythian        ah, may be.
05:48 mtompset       I don't like having to un-https it to get it to work.
05:48 mtompset       Anyways... sleep.
05:48 mtompset       Have a great day, #koha eythian.
05:50 dcook          I kind of want to do something with web sockets now...
05:51 eythian        fix the update screen so it won't timeout
05:51 dcook          hehe
05:51 dcook          Well, in this case I'd be using Catalyst, which I think already has code for web sockets
05:51 eythian        ah
05:51 eythian        time to go
05:51 eythian        later
05:51 dcook          laters
06:00 magnuse        kia ora cait
06:09 cait           morning magnuse
06:33 reiveune       hello
06:33 wahanui        kia ora, reiveune
06:36 magnuse        @wunder boo
06:36 huginn`        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 05, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
06:36 magnuse        ooh
06:36 magnuse        @wunder marseille
06:36 huginn`        magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 18.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
06:36 magnuse        yeah yeah ;-)
06:41 magnuse        woohoo for bug 12412
06:41 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12412 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add ability for plugins to convert arbitrary files to MARC from record staging tool
06:42 * magnuse      has not been keeping up with the commits on master...
06:48 dcook          Oh, that sounds neat!
06:50 * magnuse      shudders at the idea of "convert[ing] arbitrary files to MARC", but it is rather neat :-)
06:51 magnuse        as long as marc is the only internal format we have
06:58 fridolin       hie
07:04 alex_a         bonjour
07:04 wahanui        salut, alex_a
07:27 gaetan_B       hello
07:27 wahanui        hi, gaetan_B
07:37 cait           morning #koha
07:50 magnuse        @seen atheia
07:50 huginn`        magnuse: atheia was last seen in #koha 3 weeks, 3 days, 21 hours, 26 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <atheia> sounds good :-)
07:55 fridolin       Bug 14132 is ready to SO if someone is looking for a performance bug
07:55 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14132 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , suggestions table is missing indexes
08:43 Viktor         Hi all of #koha and particularly @magnuse and @cait who never got a real greeting back yesterday :)
08:44 cait           hi Viktor :)
08:44 cait           and hi ashimema :)
08:44 * andreashm    waves
08:44 cait           hi andreashm :)
08:44 Viktor         On the Hi @andreashm
08:45 andreashm      Hi cait! See, I can drop by during the daytime from time to time! =)
08:45 andreashm      hej Viktor!
08:45 Viktor         andreashm Good to see you've also taken up the habit of keeping IRC active :)
08:45 andreashm      viktor: skickade just ett mail till dig.
08:46 andreashm      Viktor: I'm trying at least. Hard to manage between everything else. =)
08:46 cait           Viktor: the strings are not final yet- not sure when we enter complete string freeze hm
08:46 cait           andreashm: I see :) how is it going?
08:47 Viktor         cait: The main problem is if the window between string freeze and release is long enough to do all the translation then or if I should just get them going right away
08:47 cait           hm not sure really
08:47 andreashm      Cait: Lots of things to juggle at the same time, trying to make sure things go smoothly while I stay at home with the newborn
08:48 cait           oh1
08:48 cait           !
08:48 andreashm      (Not born yet, but it'ls looming close now)
08:48 cait           congratulations :)
08:48 cait           oh
08:48 andreashm      it's
08:49 Viktor         andreashm: It's an exiting time and must be allowed to be prio 1 :) But I guess you have a full schedule keeping the migration and everyting lined up while you're away :)
08:51 * magnuse      wishes andreashm the best of luck :-)
08:51 magnuse        Viktor: you probably do not want to upgrade before 3.20.1 anyway
08:52 magnuse        so in reality the window is bugger than from string freeze to just before release
08:53 Viktor         magnuse: Very true :)
08:53 andreashm      Viktor: Yup, kind of like that.
08:53 cait           yeah that makes sense
08:53 cait           you could aim form the later release
08:54 andreashm      Viktor trying to get some late development into 3.20?
08:54 cait           maybe get them started on the big one with a small update for 3.20.1
08:54 Viktor         magnuse: We just always sort of forget to translate in time and get it up at .03 or so and I'd like to see a new release 100% sv-se at release ;) For the heck of it :)
08:55 Viktor         cait: Might be a good strategy of course. Will probably do that.
08:55 magnuse        Viktor: good plan :-)
08:55 magnuse        and cait's plan is even better :-)
08:56 Viktor         andreashm: No not really. Things will get in when they do :)
08:57 andreashm      haha
08:58 magnuse        huh, what did i do to install tidyp to get PDF::FromHTML to install?
09:00 cait           cpan -f
09:02 magnuse        does that work? i think the problem is a missing low level library
09:03 cait           worked for me - but haven't tested the feature yet
09:03 cait           i am not sure what we will do there, robin did investigate last night it seems but it does't read good
09:04 Viktor         There will be some sort of official communication about this later, but give xarragon or eskaaren a warm welcome if you see them around. They are two of the three developers we've hired :)
09:05 cait           aah nice
09:05 cait           i have seen them both already
09:05 cait           but didn't make the connection :)
09:05 Viktor         The third starts for real in late august and I'm not shure if theres a registered nick for Martin S yet :)
09:05 cait           3 devs - that's a lot
09:05 cait           what are you planning? :)
09:06 Viktor         cait: Yep :) I will have my hands full just getting them things to work on :)
09:06 Viktor         (But it's 2 full time equivalents - 20%, 100% and 80%)
09:06 cait           if you run out... I can help )
09:06 andreashm      haha
09:08 magnuse        Viktor: there are 2000+ bugs waiting for them in bugzilla ;-)
09:08 Viktor         cait: That would actually be appreciated :)
09:08 magnuse        Viktor++ for making things happen
09:09 andreashm      Viktor++
09:09 Viktor         cait magnuse: First off is actually to focus on testing patches for a while.
09:09 Viktor         magnuse :)
09:09 Viktor         Then we have things lined up that we 1) need 2) want
09:09 magnuse        that is an excellent start
09:10 magnuse        and there are ~160 nso to dig into
09:10 magnuse        fill up cait's queue ;-)
09:10 Viktor         There are some things like sweden -specifik API-calls that we need to integrate in order to make Koha-adaptation speed up over here.
09:11 cait           not onyl 'my' queue thankfully
09:11 cait           but i wish there was more time :(
09:12 cait           i'd really like if someone could give the final tax patches another look
09:12 Viktor         But also sort of general things like tracking down ways that info of user behaviour might leak through external services, genereal workflow improvements etc.
09:12 cait           especially someone with acq data
09:12 cait           Joubu fixed soem update issues i found, but i don't have a lot of test data
09:12 cait           hey drojf :)
09:13 drojf          morning #koha
09:13 drojf          hi cait :)
09:13 Viktor         Then I'm thinking that we'd like do to more with the opac side in order to improve the offer for public libraries. Getting a smoother Koha as CMS-workflow for example.
09:13 magnuse        yay
09:14 cait           :)
09:14 Viktor         cait: Tax patches migh be a bit over our head right now :/ We are still getting the hang of things with trivial patches and I have no experience with using ACQ.
09:14 cait           ah, was worth trying :)
09:14 drojf          meeting with role election thingy is tomorrow, right?
09:15 cait           oh
09:15 cait           is there a wiki page yet?
09:15 drojf          i have not seen a reminder :)
09:15 drojf          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_6_May_2015
09:15 * cait         volunteers drojf
09:15 drojf          heh
09:15 drojf          ok i can do it after the 3.18.6 mail to the german list
09:15 cait           just to show Viktor how easy i can find things to do ;)
09:15 drojf          (i hope we are done with revisions?)
09:16 cait           i hope so too
09:17 Viktor         :)
09:17 xarragon       Viktor: Thanks for the announcement.
09:17 * cait         waves
09:17 magnuse        btw, what i did was: sudo apt-get install gcc; sudo cpanm Alien::Tidyp; sudo cpanm HTML::Tidy; sudo cpanm PDF::FromHTML
09:18 * magnuse      waves to xarragon
09:18 magnuse        ...from Bodø, Norway
09:18 Viktor         xarragon It's a pleasure to have you on the team!
09:18 * xarragon     waves back
09:20 andreashm_away off to lunch. bbl.
09:20 magnuse        hm. on current master i am seeing something similar to Bug 12883
09:20 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12883 major, P5 - low, ---, gmc, Pushed to Stable , Holds tab on checkout screen never stops processing
09:21 magnuse        when i click on the holds tab it just shows "Processing..." forever
09:21 xarragon       magnuse: I see you're also using CPANMinus. Love that tool myself, but for my Koha I have so far managed to use mostly debian jessie packages. What is the motivation for CPAN stuff?
09:21 magnuse        the general rule is to always install from debian packages
09:22 cait           xarragon: there is one new dependency we still have to package
09:22 cait           or maybe 2
09:22 magnuse        but PDF::FromHTML is a new dep that is not packaged for debian yet
09:22 cait           we are trying to get that solved until release
09:22 xarragon       Ah, the PDF stuff (which just broehd after my pull request yesterday)?
09:23 xarragon       I'll scroll back and look for details. Thanks for the warning/heads-up.
09:27 magnuse        ah, it was a data problem
09:28 xarragon       There is already a wish request for a debian package for that CPAN module (pdf::fromhtml), filed 4th of May 2015. Nice.
09:29 cait           i thik that might have been robin last night
09:29 cait           robin = eythian
09:29 cait           xarragon: can you share a link?
09:36 * magnuse      does a happydance, then wanders off for lunch
09:36 xarragon       cait: Sure. But it was just from the mailing list: https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1319477.html
09:36 cait           ah yeah -that would be eythian :)
09:39 * Viktor       wanders off for lunch too.
12:06 cait           thx khall++
12:06 khall          np!
12:34 carmen         hello and good morning #koha
12:35 cait           hi carmen
12:35 cait           khall: did you see i had problems applying the hold patch?
12:53 * andreashm    waves
13:02 magnuse        \o/
13:37 tcohen         morning
13:38 khall          mornin!
13:40 tcohen         hi khall cait
14:32 fridolin       see u
14:46 Brooke         o/
16:35 gaetan_B       bye
17:32 bag            morning
17:39 mtompset       Greetings, #koha.
17:39 mtompset       @seen khall
17:39 huginn`        mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 1 minute, and 33 seconds ago: <khall> mornin!
17:40 khall          what's up?
17:41 mtompset       I was looking at the coverflow plugin.
17:42 magnuse        bag: HI
17:42 wahanui        kia ora, magnuse
17:42 mtompset       I did the unthinkable... and uninstalled. :)
17:42 mtompset       It left some cruft behind.
17:42 khall          lol! why?
17:42 magnuse        nah, noone will ever want to do that :-)
17:42 khall          yeah, I can understand that
17:42 mtompset       Because I'm playing with plugins right now.
17:42 tcohen         hi mtompset
17:43 mtompset       That whole JavaScript/minfied thing.
17:43 khall          I'm not sure if that can be handled because some files are in a different namespace
17:44 mtompset       The difficulty comes with knowing if any other plugins may be using that same file.
17:44 mtompset       Greetings, tcohen. :)
17:44 tcohen         @later tell eythian do u think the PDF::FromHTML package can be built in a short term?
17:44 huginn`        tcohen: The operation succeeded.
17:45 * mtompset     screams in agony over the mention of PDF::FromHTML. ;)
17:46 mtompset       tcohen: Did you peek at any on my noise reducing on the tests bugs? :)
17:46 mtompset       ^on^of^
17:47 tcohen         i saw them, but too busy taking on enhancements for 3.20
17:47 mtompset       Image a world where 'prove t' has no extraneous noise... it's within grasp. :)
17:47 mtompset       ^Image^Imagine^
17:48 tcohen         heh
17:49 tcohen         khall: would you take a look at my proposed solution for bug 14148?
17:49 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14148 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Bug 12412 breaks import if plugins are not enabled
17:49 khall          tcohen: that looks like a fine solution to me!
17:50 mtompset       What was it before that?
17:52 mtompset       Oh... and speaking of plugins.
17:53 mtompset       That 403 git issue... I had to do the same thing for my plugins directory too.
18:12 pastebot       "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "looking for some jquery help i want every ; in the holdings_note to be replaced with a line break" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/88
18:13 pastebot       "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "the html" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/89
18:21 nengard        any jquery experts around - it's probably really simple I'm just missing one simple thing ...
18:21 nengard        khall maybe you know ^^
18:22 khall          nengard: so that javascript isn't working?
18:22 nengard        nope
18:22 nengard        and i tried \;
18:22 nengard        no luck
18:24 khall          nengard: add a "console.log(h);" line above your return to see if it prints out the html
18:24 nengard        hmm
18:24 nengard        nope
18:24 khall          nothing in your javascript error console?
18:25 nengard        khall http://switch-temp.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=140539
18:26 nengard        two errors - not to do with this
18:26 khall          nengard: there's a syntax error
18:26 khall          so your js is probably never being executed
18:26 nengard        bingo
18:26 nengard        sort of - refresh the page
18:27 nengard        it's not replacing every one - just the first one
18:30 khall          you need a regex, one moment
18:30 tcohen         @seen cait
18:30 huginn`        tcohen: cait was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 55 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <cait> khall: did you see i had problems applying the hold patch?
18:30 khall          return h.replace('/;/g', '<br/>');
18:31 khall          nengard: ^
18:31 khall          return h.replace(/;/g, '<br/>');
18:31 khall          my bad, it should look like this nengard^
18:31 khall          I don't think a semi needs escaped, but it may
18:39 mtompset       khall: How would you feel about a YAML-esque or JSON-esque system preference that stores the names of files unpacked for the plugins?
18:40 khall          a syspref seems like an odd place to store it, but I've got no better idea!
18:41 mtompset       Right, because if it were in the plugins dir, it would get accidentally overwritten.
18:41 mtompset       (by a poorly zip'd plugin)
18:44 khall          I'd say the best solution is to smack me and tell me to fix my plugin
18:47 pastebot       "barton" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Stack trace from label-edit-batch.pl -- clicking 'new batch' or 'manage batches' triggers Software error." (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/90
18:47 barton         ah, khall, I figured that you'd bounced already.
18:47 huginn`        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11574 - Clean up Printing Lists <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d50a1189d05618f6ef12d6f8696cab57861aba9> / Bug 14006: about.pl checks the wrong zebra index mode <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=13722ebe737acf6c74195b15b3f51d1ba21a4b79> / Bug 12671: Guess next serial date when there are several issues per unit. Added suppo... <http://git.koha-community.or
18:51 mtompset       khall: That's one solution.
18:52 mtompset       The other solution was to fix the plugin delete functionality.
18:52 tcohen         bye #koha
18:52 mtompset       If you store the files associated with the archive in a string.
18:52 mtompset       Then you can check to see if the file is still used and if not delete it.
18:53 mtompset       Because assuming "everything below this directory" is a reasonable assumption, but obvious someone is going to break it, even the author of the plugin system. :P
19:14 chris_n        cait: bug 14152
19:14 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14152 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Check for required dependencies during upgrades
19:14 cait           i just got in chris_n - will look later
19:17 magnuse        ooh, that sounds like a good idea
19:30 mtompset       chris_n: I just tried it.
19:30 mtompset       It's not working right.
19:31 mtompset       It tells me I have all the dependencies even after I did a sudo apt-get purge libpdf-fromhtml-perl
19:36 chris_n        mtompset:  libpdf-fromhtml-perl is not currently marked as a required dep
19:37 chris_n        you will have to edit your PerlDependencies.pm file and change that
19:37 mtompset       Shouldn't that be part of your patch?!
19:37 mtompset       I'll test that case though.
19:37 chris_n        no, that is a separate bug
19:37 chris_n        still in discussion
19:37 wahanui        i think in discussion is probably good
19:37 chris_n        sometimes wahanui
19:37 wahanui        sometimes i am more trouble than she's worth
19:37 mtompset       number?
19:37 wahanui        number is going down too fast
19:37 chris_n        om
19:38 chris_n        bug 14103
19:38 huginn`        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14103 critical, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Needs Signoff , Discharge management: Software error on main page after upgrade - Missing dependencies on About page
19:39 chris_n        seems hector has submitted a patch to do that
19:40 chris_n        mtompset: either that or remove a dep currently marked as required
19:44 rangi          https://www.bugzilla.org/releases/5.0/release-notes.html#feat
19:45 rangi          some nice features coming in 5.0
19:45 rangi          i wont upgrade until after the 3.20 release though
19:51 mtompset       Feel free to edit my revised test plan, chris_n. I signed off. :)
19:52 mtompset       It's a nice change. Though, I don't know why you did negative checking 'noop', instead of positive checking 'updatestructure'.
19:54 chris_n        mtompset: probably just failed to swap the logic after several iterations
19:54 * chris_n      went through a couple of contortions before arriving at the present solution :-P
19:56 chris_n        thanks mtompset; my sentiments exactly on the package in question :-)
19:57 cait           morning rangi
19:59 chris_n        heya rangi
19:59 cait           chris_n: mtompset:  i am in doubt about making it mandatory - i think it woudl be better to alter the code
19:59 chris_n        I agree
19:59 cait           to make it check for an activated discharge feature
19:59 cait           but not sure how to do that
19:59 * chris_n      thinks required deps should be kept to a bare minimum
20:00 chris_n        time to head out
20:03 * rangi        has to get kids to school, bbl
20:09 mtompset       cait: That is a specific case. The code is still a useful patch for more normal cases. :)
20:09 cait           hm?
20:10 mtompset       Let me just try with libxml-libxslt-perl
20:14 mtompset       Hmmm...
20:14 mtompset       no blow up....
20:16 mtompset       okay... I'm not sure how to trigger the blow up that proves it should be required.
20:17 mtompset       But the patch does catch the need for it. :)
20:42 mtompset       found the blowup, cait: OPAC searching.
20:48 drojf          good night #koha
21:02 mveron         Good evening / daytime #koha
22:07 eythian        hi
22:15 eythian        @later tell tcohen yes, totally. It probably just requires fixing up the documentation, I didn't see anything worse than that that would prevent it being packaged.
22:15 huginn`        eythian: The operation succeeded.