Time Nick Message 21:23 eythian hi 21:19 * cait waves 21:16 * wizzyrea waves 20:07 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 10.0°C (10:06 PM CEST on March 30, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). 20:07 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:38 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 19:38 cait @later tell rangi bug 13930 18:15 Krixvar It seems that its always writing to /var/spool/koha regardless of different --output options 18:03 Krixvar Hey all, having some issues with the backup command - it works great to the default location but I can't get it to save to another directory 17:23 tcohen bye #koha 16:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9120: Prevent form submission on adding tags - OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fa67b2f83f418df0923caaeec444b6a8f728b21> / Bug 11982 - Images now display properly in the details section. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a4a91aef3ecaacdf3d01dc358f9486b96fba705> / Bug 11982 - Fixed the amazon no image icon. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha 16:34 tcohen hi gmcharlt 16:34 tcohen ouch 16:31 gmcharlt (so that we don't inundate the library - I sent an email to that library that had sent a password to the Koha mailing list rather than the intended patron) 16:30 tcohen thanks 16:27 Joubu tcohen: sent to the NSO queue 16:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, In Discussion , KOHAVERSION should be statically set 16:26 Joubu tcohen: bug 13758? 16:24 tcohen Joubu: what is the status of the kohaversion patch? 16:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5786: Correction: Removed erroneous holdability check from opac-search.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac5130c57cd95a8b030534bf62861cc565edd3f9> / Bug 11900 - OPAC cart can confuse patrons <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53ac1adeaf8ed7a76ecda2c60c77268efe0e6065> / Bug 13894: Fix if the search returns only 1 result <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ 15:48 nengard joubu++ 15:31 Joubu khall: that's good to know ;) 15:31 nengard :) 15:31 cait nengard: agreed about hte pref 15:31 nengard LOL 15:30 khall wait, what have I volunteered for? ; ) 15:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add additional sound options for warnings 15:30 Joubu tcohen: Bug 11431 [4] - Add additional sound options 15:29 wahanui hmmm... khall is volunteering to come over and fix it for you, it seems. ;) 15:29 tcohen khall? 15:29 tcohen ok 15:29 Joubu tcohen: no idea 15:29 wahanui i guess which one is that? The fixed navbar? 15:29 tcohen which one? 15:29 Joubu tcohen: it's already done by another patch, but not pushed yet 15:29 Joubu tcohen: actually I just pass a parameter to the search method 15:28 Joubu tcohen: yes 15:27 cait tcohen: Joubu: maybe it could be fixed? I think it used to work - should give you a calendar file for your checkouts 15:26 tcohen it changes Koha::Objects ? 15:26 tcohen Joubu: 13892 15:26 cait The 'day' parameter ("23T23") to DateTime::new did not pass the 'an integer which is a possible valid day of month' callback at /usr/lib/perl5/DateTime.pm line 199 DateTime::new(undef, 'day', '23T23', 'month', 04, 'year', 2015, 'hour', 9, ...) called at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-ics.pl line 66 15:25 cait it's broken 15:25 cait oh 15:25 cait isn't that the calendar thing for your checkouts? 15:24 cait hm i think it still owkrs 15:21 tcohen hi Joubu 15:18 tcohen nope 15:15 Joubu Does someone know if opac/opac-ics.pl is still in used? 15:14 fridolin see u 14:37 nengard will test after off the phone 14:33 Joubu nengard: new patch sent 14:32 nengard let me know when you're done and i'll test again 14:32 nengard whew :) 14:31 Joubu no, it was me :) 14:30 nengard so it wasn't me?? :) 14:30 Joubu nengard: ok got it 14:29 Joubu I gonna check the code again 14:29 Joubu nengard: Maybe there is a check somewhere with another permissions 14:27 nengard so it's the default FA 14:27 nengard it's a fresh install 14:26 Joubu hum, weird 14:26 nengard it is FA 14:26 nengard Joubu you saw my video right? maybe it's something to do with other permissions? or something to do with marc21? 14:26 Joubu Could you confirm the frameworkcode for your "Fast Add Framework" is "FA"? 14:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7561 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , cannot fast catalog with fast cataloging permissions 14:25 Joubu nengard: Hi, I confirm you bug 7561 works for me... :-/ 13:37 cait hm could someone confirm if html predue notices work in 3.18? or anything above 3.12.6 really? 13:24 cait hmm looking for a bug about html notices and advanced notices... 13:05 tcohen morning Joubu 13:04 cait maybe Joubu knows - i think it's a 'french' feature 13:04 cait tcohen: hm not sure - we don't use suspension days around here 13:04 cait wow 13:03 tcohen (first time) 13:03 * tcohen grilled a full lamb last saturday 13:03 * magnuse wanders off to re-heat yesterdays roasted leg of lamb 13:02 tcohen i need to understand the desired logic fr suspension days calculation when using hourly loans 13:02 tcohen anyone familiar with suspension days? 12:56 magnuse kinda hello, then ;-) 12:55 cait kinda back 12:55 cait hi all 12:55 ashimema_ cait! 12:54 magnuse i think cait is ignoring us 12:41 tcohen hi francharb 12:41 francharb good morning tcohen 12:40 tcohen hi cait 12:28 magnuse kia ora cait 12:28 magnuse well, look who's here! 12:25 tcohen oh, so I missed her 12:25 huginn tcohen: cait was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 45 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <cait> @later tell khall could you take a look at bug 13380 please? it has a database update fix for master 12:25 tcohen @seen cait 12:23 magnuse wandering randomly about, looking for the API discussion? 12:21 wahanui cait is lookign forward to the API discussion 12:21 tcohen where is cait? 12:20 magnuse kia ora tcohen 12:19 tcohen momrning 12:16 magnuse sophie_m: ah 12:15 sophie_m magnuse: ^ 12:15 sophie_m only monday after Easter is off in France. And school holidays that used to be on Easter are now often later (begining of May for us in Marseille this year) 12:10 magnuse ooh, ashimema_ got the cloning to work! 12:10 magnuse s/nots/lots/ 12:10 magnuse nots of people take wednesday off to, which is what i am going to do 12:09 magnuse in norway half of wednesday is a day off for most people, as well as thursday, friday and monday 12:08 magnuse glad påsk! 12:07 Viktor Kia ora Magnuse 12:07 magnuse kia ora Viktor 12:07 magnuse sophie_m: huh? 12:05 sophie_m in France easter holidays are not on Easter :) 12:04 * magnuse is just busy 12:04 magnuse people might be off on their easter holidays? 12:04 magnuse in norway too 11:59 sophie_m In France we've lost one hour sleep last night ashimema 11:53 meliss Yes, it seems to be very quiet today. 11:50 ashimema it's quiet in here today 10:11 nlegrand :) 10:10 drojf looks like library germany left for holidays 10:08 mveron hi drojf :-) 10:08 drojf hi mveron 10:07 mveron droif++ 10:07 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 7.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on March 30, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady). 10:07 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 10:06 * drojf feels loved 10:05 Sherbs thank you 10:04 Sherbs and it works, i love you internet! 10:04 Sherbs digital ocean instruction file... i am appolying the same steps to my koha instance.conf 10:01 drojf where did you find that? 10:01 Sherbs is there instructions on how to add the ssl data to that file? all the info i have found so far is just about adding to default-ssl? 09:59 drojf you should put that in the /etc/apache2/sites-available/yourkohainstance.conf file instead 09:57 Sherbs so i disabled that, but i was editing the default ssl file to enable the ssl connection to my staff access port? 09:54 drojf or have a look at /etc/apache2/sites-available to see what it is called 09:54 drojf try 'sudo a2dissite default-ssl' 09:53 Sherbs how do i do that? i'm fairly new to this linux world.. 09:53 drojf Sherbs: disable the default ssl site 09:52 Sherbs i dont know what to replace this file with to allow the https connection to connect through to my koha install 09:52 Sherbs i have followed all the instructions i can find but when i connect only shows my the apache2 default page, telling me to " You should replace this file (located at /var/www/html/index.html) before continuing to operate your HTTP server. 09:51 Sherbs hello. looking for help setting up https for my koha install 09:37 magnuse ah 09:36 mveron magnuse: ...but rather wet and rainy :-) 09:35 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (11:20 AM CEST on March 30, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 28.94 in 980 hPa (Steady). 09:35 magnuse @wunder boo 09:35 magnuse 11! 09:35 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 11.0°C (11:30 AM CEST on March 30, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 09:35 magnuse in norwegian, that is short for "his/her royal highness" :-) 09:35 mveron @wunder Allschwil 09:31 mveron Welcome hkh! 09:16 magnuse yup, that was quite a long chain of deps... 08:54 nlegrand art of choosing bugs to sign off 08:54 nlegrand magnuse: ho it depends on a bug that depends on a bug that depends on a bug that depends on a bug that depends on a bug.. 08:47 magnuse :-) 08:42 nlegrand magnuse: ho right... Thanks, I thought I looked dependencies, but I was wrong :) 08:42 nlegrand magnuse: >< 08:28 magnuse Koha/Biblio.pm and Koha/Hold.pm are probably introduced by one of the bugs it depends on 08:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13851 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Replace waiting holds logic in circulation.pl with Koha Objects 08:28 magnuse if you trace it backwards it depends on Bug 13851 08:28 drojf hei magnuse 08:28 magnuse nlegrand: look at the dependencies on the bug 08:27 magnuse moin drojf 07:57 drojf morning #koha 07:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13918 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add waiting expiration date to opac list of holds for user 07:53 nlegrand I'm a bit puzzled by Bug 13918, patches doesn't apply on Koha src, because I don't have Koha/Biblio.pm and Koha/Hold.pm files, what am I missing? 07:43 nlegrand Hey #koha 07:09 fridolin good morning 07:01 alex_a bonjour 06:59 wahanui bonjour, matts 06:59 matts hi 06:57 mveron hiya magnuse :-) 06:56 magnuse hiya mveron 06:44 mveron Good monday #koha 06:22 * magnuse waves 04:40 dcook :D 04:40 dcook Oh yay... it was just a missing angle bracket 04:38 dcook Well, gotta earn my pay I guess :p 04:37 bag :P 04:36 dcook Nooo not the tag soup again... 02:39 dcook hehe 02:38 * wizzyrea snickers 02:36 eythian Sparticus was Thracian, not Italian. 02:33 dcook I'm Spartacus. No, I'm Spartacus! 02:33 dcook mtj: That is interesting :S 02:33 wizzyrea Wonder if it would be better to use their tech but on the koha-community.org server 02:33 wizzyrea oh the 3.14 one is there. 02:32 wizzyrea pdfs 02:32 wizzyrea also sad trombone, the PDF's seem to be missing. 02:31 wizzyrea it's frickin' huge though 02:31 wizzyrea Also possibly not loading the *entire* thing. 02:31 wizzyrea do not know, a question for bgkriegel or tcohen, I'd reckon. 02:30 eythian I wonder if it compresses it for transport, that'd make a huge difference 02:30 wizzyrea well it makes me laugh. ^.^ 02:29 wizzyrea chief poo poo-er 02:29 wizzyrea so, pretty at the expense of speed :P 02:29 eythian yep. 02:29 wizzyrea eythian, poo poo-er that he is, noted it took 22s to wget :P 02:29 wizzyrea haha I said the same thing earlier 02:25 mtj gosh, koha manual is looking nice 02:23 mtj interesting /. -> http://slashdot.org/story/15/03/29/128253/arduino-dispute-reaches-out-to-distributors 01:53 wizzyrea no worries :) 01:53 irma thanks wizzyrea :-( 01:53 wizzyrea (sorry if you are) 01:52 wizzyrea Irma: you in the right channel there? 01:52 irma I usually like to add links to the exact relevant page/s. So for PIA <> 01:51 irma Then the body of the email: 01:51 irma it becomes: [CALYX #1324] PIA : Creating a new shelf location 01:48 eythian all packaging scripts come under packaging, until we get a separate maintainer for them. 01:48 eythian no, that's right 01:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13925 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-restore doesn't start Zebra 01:47 dcook I may have put bug 13925 in the wrong spot... just in a bit of a rush atm 01:47 dcook :) 01:47 eythian dcook: apparently I've changed my mind in the past two years :) 01:47 wizzyrea but for just reinstalling on the same machine better to do it a bit more manually (probably because I bumped into these sorts of things) 01:46 huginn 04Bug 9754: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , koha-remove does not remove the stuff in /var/lib/koha/ 01:46 dcook eythian: just noticed this: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9754 01:46 wizzyrea my feeling on koha-restore was always "use it for moving to a clean server" 01:46 wizzyrea yarp 01:45 eythian I dunno, those things need a fair bit of love anyway 01:45 eythian possibly 01:45 eythian yeah 01:45 wahanui hmmm... something is sketchy 01:45 wizzyrea or something 01:45 wizzyrea like, it could give those messages, with the caveat "run koha-restore -f to force overwrite 01:45 eythian but, if you're running remove, it's to remove it, generally I think. 01:44 wizzyrea I wouldn't mind a -f to force though 01:44 eythian even if it runs koha-dump with some special file path or something so that it's backed up. 01:44 * wizzyrea feels funny assuming that 01:44 eythian yeah 01:44 eythian but almost everything in there is transient 01:44 wizzyrea it's not removed otherwise. 01:43 wizzyrea well koha-remove should definitely get rid of the stuff in /var/lib/koha/site 01:43 eythian I mean, it could be better to do a test and fail early if things are still around, and allow -f to go ahead anyway 01:43 eythian or backup restore, yeah 01:43 wizzyrea the core usage of koha-restore was for a server move ya? 01:43 dcook I'd have to look at the scripts 01:43 eythian yeah, so it should create it. 01:42 dcook I'm guessing that koha_library@'%' doesn't exist? 01:42 dcook I'm not sure about the MySQL one... 01:42 eythian wizzyrea: I think so 01:42 eythian it'll be a 'user doesn't exist' message 01:42 wizzyrea should it be happy to do that? 01:42 eythian I think the mysql one is OK though 01:42 wahanui Also that is a giant undertaking 01:42 dcook Also that 01:42 eythian b) koha-restore should happily overwrite the stuff in there when it's extracting. 01:42 dcook I'll file them once I finish working on the task at hand 01:42 dcook Two bugs :D 01:42 dcook Yeah, koha-remove ought to remove it as well 01:42 wizzyrea yeah, that's definitely a bug. 01:41 eythian oh, that's probably a bug 01:41 eythian a) koha-remove ought to have remove /var/lib/koha/library 01:41 dcook Turns out koha-restore doesn't start up Zebra? 01:41 dcook Actually, I just tried restarting Zebra 01:41 dcook Ahh... 01:41 wizzyrea practically though, eythian's suggestion is probably the way to go 01:41 eythian you could carefully extract the files from the tar.gz too 01:40 wizzyrea example on a huge db it'd be much faster to restore than to reindex :/ 01:40 eythian yes 01:40 eythian then do service koha-common restart 01:40 wizzyrea isn't one of the ideas though, that you could just restore the files and not have to reindex? 01:40 dcook Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of, but was hoping there might be a better way ::/ 01:40 eythian then do koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v 01:39 eythian I'd delete /var/lib/koha/library and use koha-create-dirs to make them from fresh 01:39 eythian hmm, koha-remove and koha-restore don't really get enough stress testing. 01:39 dcook Most things seem to be restored OK, but no records come up :/ 01:38 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "koha-restore errors" (26 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15 01:37 dcook (They're still going) 01:37 dcook Copying errors presently.. 01:37 dcook Yeah, I did koha-remove then koha-restore 01:37 dcook I was working on a different computer. Doing it here now. 01:36 dcook Working on it ;) 01:36 eythian in fact, it might be bad 01:36 eythian I don't think that you need to koha-create first 01:36 eythian if you don't put the error message there, no one can help you 01:36 eythian dcook: you know to report bugs better than that 01:35 wizzyrea did you do a koha-create to create the new instance? 01:35 wizzyrea what are the errors? 01:35 dcook I've done a "koha-remove", but now when I try to do a "koha-restore", it gives me errors regarding Zebra indexes... 01:34 dcook Anyone around to answer some questions about koha-restore and koha-create? 01:08 wizzyrea ok mr smarty pants. :P 01:02 eythian and it has ~1,174 PNG files 01:02 eythian it takes 22 seconds to wget it :) 01:02 wizzyrea that was in the "before sleep" time. 01:02 wizzyrea ^.^ then yeah, I must have loaded sometime in the past, because it's definitely not slow for me 01:01 eythian it's 1.7MB of HTML alone, that's not going to load quick as a flash :) 00:59 wizzyrea I don't think I've seen it looking that flash before now. 00:59 wizzyrea mmm shouldn't 00:59 eythian I think it was just many images 00:59 eythian you maybe had everything cached 00:57 wizzyrea hm loaded quick as a flash for me 00:57 eythian does look good though 00:57 eythian that page takes forever to load 00:55 wizzyrea tcohen++ bgkriegel++ 00:55 wizzyrea also it's looking quite nice online lately: http://translate.koha-community.org/manual/3.18/en/html-desktop/ 00:55 wizzyrea mostly just wondering what I have to say in order to use a wee part of it. 00:54 eythian definitely 00:54 eythian yes 00:54 wizzyrea ^.^ 00:54 jcamins Better than CC for source code. 00:54 eythian to a first approximation, GPLed docs end up being cc-by-sa more or less, give or take. 00:54 eythian GPL isn't usually the best thing for documentation, but not the end of the world. 00:54 wizzyrea def not CC-anything 00:53 eythian hmm 00:53 wizzyrea Published: 2014 00:53 wizzyrea Learn more about this license in the GPL3 Appendix 00:53 wizzyrea This manual is licensed under the GNU General Public License, version 3 or later 00:53 wizzyrea " 00:53 eythian also creative spelling... 00:52 eythian or even CC-SA for soemthing like documentaiton 00:52 eythian but I'm happy enough with CC-BY-SA 00:52 * eythian is unsure where he sits on this topic 00:52 wizzyrea oh, well that's a good reason. 00:52 eythian it's to do with the non-variant sections. 00:52 eythian Debian won't include it, for example 00:52 eythian GFDL does have some issues 00:52 jcamins And the reason definitely predated my involvement. I just seem to recall someone telling me there was a reason. 00:51 jcamins I think there was a reason, but I don't remember what it was. 00:50 rangi i can't remember why 00:49 wizzyrea it's GPL afaict 00:49 wizzyrea maybe we've talked about this before, but why isn't the manual the GNU Free Documentation License?