Time Nick Message 23:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13858 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Datatables paging for news page is broken 23:54 cait btw bug 13858 - super easy signoff 23:54 * bag passes dcook some rice-krispy treats 23:52 cait heh *hands dcook some peanut butter cups* 23:52 * dcook retreats back into the shadows 23:52 dcook I suppose I should've read the full scrollback before piping up :p 23:51 cait i think tiem search is not using zebra 23:51 cait a search result for 'barcode begins with t' seems to work ok, but could be any item field in one of th eothers breaking it i guess 23:51 dcook (with Zebra 2.0.59) 23:51 * dcook ran into this problem using a barcode with a hyphen while using ICU... just saying 23:51 cait not quite :) 23:51 dcook cait: Did you say a barcode is breaking something? 23:51 cait too late to figure that out i guess 23:51 * dcook perks up 23:51 cait i only have 24... but meh 23:50 cait one of my items breaks it 23:50 cait gives me 2 items 23:50 cait a search fr barcode begins with t works too 23:50 cait must be the data 23:50 dcook Took me a sec to figure out "wfm" too 23:48 cait looksok 23:47 cait i am looking at something hebrew now 23:47 cait ah encoding worked alright for me 23:47 wizzyrea but it doesn't stop mine 23:47 cait hm no 23:47 wizzyrea I had a few too, there are encoding issues on that page 23:45 cait i got lots of diacritics... 23:45 cait might be diacritics? 23:45 cait a search for a barcode works 23:45 cait hmmm ok 23:42 wizzyrea this is basically a glorified items report wizard thing. 23:42 cait but not displayingon screen... 23:42 cait wizzyrea: exporting to csv works for me too 23:42 wizzyrea no, it still works for me 23:40 cait i am not even sur ehow to debug this ajax thing.meh. 23:40 wizzyrea um let me log in with a proper not db user 23:40 wizzyrea oh 23:40 cait and 'loading' again 23:40 cait i just picked midway 23:40 cait hmm yeah something is weird here 23:38 wizzyrea ok now I"m having a grump about it. 23:38 wizzyrea that's not a paradigm we use anywhere else 23:38 wizzyrea why should I click the tiny link "edit search" such silly. 23:38 cait yeah, bit strangely integrated 23:38 wizzyrea all libraries wfm 23:37 cait wne when i try to limit to all libraires (marking them all) it says no data 23:37 wizzyrea also loathsome, is the fact that clicking back from the results takes you back to the advanced search screen, you have to click back into it. 23:37 cait hm 23:37 cait there is something that makes it unhappy 23:37 cait but... stuck now on my installaiton 23:37 cait yeah 23:36 wizzyrea weird. 23:36 cait i hecked, it had 245a 23:36 wizzyrea if I had to make a completely wretched guess, it's not checking all the places where we could have a title for the title. 23:36 wizzyrea maybe because it was in one of the serial title fields instead of the 245a? 23:36 cait could you check if that happens for you? 23:36 cait i also had some cases where the title didn't show up 23:35 cait not needed for marc21 23:35 cait yeah agreed 23:35 wizzyrea but it's a great feature. 23:35 wizzyrea it needs a lot of ux work, that 23:35 wizzyrea because many titles have a period on them 23:34 wizzyrea also because of ISBD punctuation, the by looks really silly. 23:34 cait but i need to make it work first hm. 23:34 cait even if there is no author 23:34 cait i wanted to fix the by always showing up 23:34 cait might be the data then? :( 23:34 cait aaaah works for me 23:34 wizzyrea yep 23:34 cait so it works for you? 23:34 wizzyrea that wfm too 23:33 cait empty, just sending the form without any changes 23:33 wizzyrea cait: what search were you doing? 23:32 wizzyrea also that functionality should be more prominent, because it's a good feature. 23:32 wizzyrea Showing 1 to 20 of 30,149 23:31 wizzyrea wfm 23:06 cait i just get the 'processing' but no items 23:06 cait hmsomeone around who could test item search on current master? 22:23 bag cait I will take some as they work on it 22:23 wahanui photos are stored in a database table linked to my borrower record, i think it's patronimages 22:23 cait photos? 22:23 cait wow :) 22:21 tcohen !! 22:21 bag with lucky charms in them 22:21 bag sonja and ginny are making green rice-krispy treats this afternoon 22:19 bag tcohen++ 22:18 tcohen join #bash 22:18 * tcohen is testing a new irc client, sorry :-D 22:17 bag ^^^^^ 22:17 bag welcome back tcohen 22:17 tcohen did i leave the chatroom? 22:17 tcohen hi cait :-D 22:17 cait hi tcohen 22:16 bag heya tcohen 22:16 wahanui hola, tcohen 22:16 tcohen hi there 22:13 cait Francesca: updates to the help files - bit more than usually 22:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13852 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , Manage C4::VirtualShelves in C4::Auth for performance 22:12 dcook bug 13852 22:12 mtj i hadnt heard of this, till now.. -> https://github.com/stevan/p5-mop-redux 22:12 huginn bag: The current temperature in Eastern Goleta Valley, Santa Barbara, California is 21.0°C (3:10 PM PDT on March 17, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). 22:12 bag @wunder 93111 22:11 eythian hi 22:10 dcook Hmm huginn is back 22:09 mtj 'The p5-MOP Rides Again' 22:09 mtj interesting perl stuff.. -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YZNwO-uCVg 22:02 Francesca thats a lot of words to translate 22:01 cait bgkriegel++ 22:01 cait Continue translation (2475 words left) < sigh 21:58 cait :) 21:58 * Francesca waves at cait 21:57 * cait waves 21:57 Francesca lol I love that 21:57 wahanui I love the 11th doctor! 21:57 bag heya Francesca 21:56 wizzyrea hello! 21:56 Francesca hey wizzyrea :) 21:53 wizzyrea :) 21:53 Francesca I get to talk to some awesome people 21:53 Francesca I really like doing the stuff over IRC 21:51 rangi sweet as 21:50 Francesca I might do some work on the dashboard in the meantime and catch up with hea-app when I go on mid semester break over easter 21:49 Francesca haven't heard from aleshia yet 21:49 rangi hi Francesca 21:49 * Francesca waves 21:37 bag :) 21:33 cait also a prsentation from opl there 21:32 cait andreashm++ http://elag2015.org/program/ 21:05 magnuse have fun #koha 21:02 drojf good night #koha 20:40 magnuse andreashm++ for dropping by 20:29 cait bye andreashm 20:29 andreashm ok, off to bed (early tonight) 20:28 andreashm thanks cait 20:28 cait glad you got better 20:28 cait glad you got rigt 20:27 cait same here :) 20:27 cait tell me :) 20:27 andreashm otherwise good, thankfully. 20:27 andreashm yeah, just an annoying cough left. 20:27 cait but you are ok now? 20:27 cait only one night with a bit of fever (and very thankful :) ) 20:26 andreashm cait: at least you didn't get the fever (right?). be very thankful for that. =) 20:26 cait mtj: i think a lot of people brought something with them, a big pool to pick a cold from :) 20:26 drojf hi rangi and BobB, i put you on the list because you were suggested at the last meeting. maybe you could express concent or concerns in the wiki :) http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising 20:26 cait but i kinda was not very reasonable last week ... so it's not very surprising 20:25 mtj you and andreashm both huh... :/ 20:25 cait stll coughing 20:25 cait yep 20:23 mtj cait: you still have a cold, from biblibre hackfest? 20:22 andreashm hey mtj 20:22 mtj hi folks 20:22 * andreashm is totally innocent... perhaps. 20:21 cait ;) 20:21 cait *coughs*! 20:21 BobB hi mtj 20:21 cait h andreashm :) 20:20 andreashm hey cait 20:17 cait hi drojf 20:17 drojf hi cait 20:17 * cait waves 20:15 drojf irc doesn't like me today 20:14 andreashm evening 20:13 rangi morning 20:12 andreashm that would be neat 20:12 magnuse and i shoud link to the opacs 20:12 magnuse i could perhaps have an extra list with libraries that have chosen koha but are not live yet 20:11 magnuse yeah, the list is libraries that are using koha today 20:10 andreashm (yes, I like answering my own questions, apparently.) 20:10 andreashm because they're not up and running yet perhaps? 20:09 andreashm magnuse: why isn't Deichmanske on your koha i norge list? 20:08 andreashm we should make such a list yes. 20:06 magnuse i or someone else should do a list like this for sweden too: http://libriotech.no/koha-i-norge 20:06 magnuse good to hear! :-) 20:05 andreashm they were there today. and yes, your mention was positive - so that would be a yay 20:05 drojf that is quite a lot, nice! 20:05 magnuse ah yes, true! 20:05 andreashm magnuse: you can add Världsbiblioteket to your list, as well. 20:05 magnuse well, i hope it was yay... 20:05 magnuse yay! 20:04 andreashm magnuse: it was fun. you were mentioned as well. =) 20:03 magnuse 40 people is awesome! 20:03 magnuse sipri has been using koha for a looong time, i helped them upgrade from 2.2.9 20:02 magnuse those are the ones i know abut using koha today 20:02 magnuse sipri, wmu, munkagårdsgymnasiet, lund montessorrigrundskola, hylte public library 20:00 * magnuse waves 19:59 andreashm there's a few smaller libraries using it too. 19:57 drojf yes, very cool. i thought it's basically halland using it, you in stockholm working on it… and that's all i heard of so far 19:56 andreashm (koha, that is) 19:56 andreashm not so many that are using yet in sweden, but plenty of interest: hence, the big turnout. 19:55 andreashm drojf: the national library had invited for a round-table discussion on koha, and nation-wide needs of Libris (union catalog in Sweden) from koha libraries. 19:49 drojf andreashm: what was the occasion? 19:49 drojf cool 19:46 andreashm close to 40 people, from around 20 institutions, talking koha. neat. 19:44 andreashm fun times in stockholm today. 19:33 wahanui what's up, andreashm 19:33 andreashm hello 18:47 magnuse (nice graphic for the squidding, btw) 18:41 * magnuse wishes there were more hours in the day 18:41 * magnuse explodes 18:39 bag >>>>>>> 18:39 * bag (squids away) 18:38 magnuse bag: knuckles straight back attcha! 18:36 bag magnuse: knuckles 18:35 wahanui salut, magnuse 18:35 magnuse bag: HI 18:35 * magnuse waves 18:11 tcohen Joubu: i just attached what I already had, just needed to recover it from the latest system crash 17:23 tcohen hi bag 17:22 bag heya tcohen 17:20 tcohen bye cait 17:18 gaetan_B bye! 17:15 cait have a nice evening all 17:10 tcohen back from power outage 17:10 wahanui salut, tcohen 17:10 tcohen hi 16:08 bag just need to volunteer 16:07 bag agreed :) 16:06 drojf on a side note, i think it would be nice to see a woman or two among the signatories 16:05 reiveune bye 16:04 drojf i added the davidnind four (five) to the list at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising now because nobody else was doing it. it seemed like we all could have agreed to them last time. not saysing they are volunteering, they should express consent or concern before we vote (as gmcharlt already mentioned) 15:59 bag they want the restful apis in koha, so they can integrate those into the plugins and into their discovery end 15:59 bag so that is the meat behind the spec that I showed in marseille 15:59 bag akafred: https://github.com/ebsco/edsapi-koha-plugin (that’s the EDS plugin for EBSCO and koha) 15:58 gaetan_B but if i may troll a little more on the marc21 subject, i really think we have it wrong here :p 15:58 gaetan_B i will first try to talk them into not doing it then 15:58 cait gaetan_B: you could try it, but it might cause more and more work with a nonstandard indexing and all 15:57 gaetan_B i'm looking forward to the day i will miss MARC 15:57 bag but who knows what can of worms bibframe (or whatever) will have 15:57 drojf :P 15:57 bag I will not 15:57 drojf i will miss MARC 15:57 gaetan_B :) 15:57 drojf lol 15:57 bag ok I’m out of this conversation - good luck gaetan_B 15:57 bag HA 15:57 bag I don’t know 15:56 bag wait 15:56 bag in marc21 999 is not kept 15:56 cait we need the incoming 001 for our union catalog matching currently 15:56 gaetan_B and the incoming 001 is not kept 15:55 cait dunno, i broke it when i added another field to the local-number index and it was no longer unique - created a lot of trrouble on import/indexing 15:55 gaetan_B the marcfield is updated with the koha biblionumber 15:55 gaetan_B when you import a record 15:55 gaetan_B in our unimarc setups, 001 is used for the biblionumber 15:55 drojf explode? just a guess 15:55 cait and i am not sure what koha does if you import things in the biblionumber field 15:55 cait gaetan_B: i think the problem is just that they will forget that 15:54 bag The standard (how I understand it) is that whomever “creates†the record - you put your record identifier in 001… If you copy catalog (ie z3950) then the 001 should already be populated... 15:54 gaetan_B "An organization receiving a record may move the incoming control number from field 001 (and the control number identifier from field 003) to field 035 (System Control Number), 010 (Library of Congress Control Number), or 016 (National Bibliographic Agency Control Number), as appropriate, and place its own system control number in field 001 (and its control number identifi 15:53 bag you could totally copy the 999c to the 001… 15:53 gaetan_B also that is their understanding of the standard (and mine too ;)) 15:53 gaetan_B they certainly want to link records 15:52 cait gaetan_B: do you knwo why they are so keen on the biblionumber in 001? do they want to link records? 15:52 gaetan_B thanks, i will see if they can deal with a biblionumber in 999c and not 001 15:51 bag bascially the MOU is - HLT do you agree to collect money (have bank account) to be used for Koha? yes - then great :) 15:49 cait and 001 from external soruces is only unique in combination with the org code in 003 15:48 cait koha doesn't requiere 001, they coudl put the bilbionumber there, but koha is happy without anything in it currently - it wouldn't be if you changed the mapping tho 15:48 cait if they download a record from z39.50 001 will be most likely set with the number of the records id 15:48 drojf i think there is/was a script to have a copy of biblionumber in 001 15:48 gaetan_B so the librarians create their own identifiers ? 15:48 cait gaetan_B: our identifieres are in 001 - but they are not bilbionumbers :) 15:48 gaetan_B (the library i am working with right now wants it this way) 15:48 bag the MOU (IMO) is not by-laws… 15:47 gaetan_B i don't work with marc21 librarie as often as you, but is it never a requirement from them to have their identifiers in 001 ? 15:47 drojf heh 15:47 cait not touching it again ;) 15:47 cait i broke it once 15:47 cait i wouldn't play with it 15:47 gaetan_B but what i was thinking of doing was to have it both ways with biblio.biblionumber mapped to 999c and biblioitems.biblionumber to 001 15:46 drojf gmcharlt: my understanding is that that is something to follow later. but i may be wrong 15:46 cait because this index is fuzzy about duplicates 15:46 cait which is good 15:46 cait and people can't edit it 15:46 cait 999c is the standard for marc21 too 15:46 cait yes 15:46 gaetan_B i'm more worried about this location for the biblionumber being hardcoded somewhere 15:46 cait but i woud lnot recommend it 15:46 bag yeah gmcharlt I feel that is outside the scope of the MOU 15:46 cait yes... yes you could 15:46 gaetan_B cait: i could change the zebra setup 15:45 gaetan_B hence it should be the biblionumber ? 15:45 cait and 001 can be anything coming in from import.. if you have one doubled up you are in even more trouble 15:45 gaetan_B well, my understanding (working with libraries that follow unimarc mostly) is that the organization using the record is the one running koha 15:45 gmcharlt bag: it boils down to I would feel more comfortable if the MOU explicitly stated that a conflict of interest policy would be adopted (NOTE: I'm not asking that the MOU include a fully-fleshed-out COI policy) 15:45 cait becuase it looks for the unique biblionumber in 999c 15:45 cait gaetan_B: you will get int rouble with your zebra indexing 15:45 drojf i think 003 + 001 is supposed to be a unique identifier (organization code plus identifier in something like a union catalog), even though koha does not really work that way 15:44 cait gaetan_B: don't remap it 15:44 huginn bag: unknown tag 999$c 15:44 bag @marc 999$c 15:44 huginn bag: unknown tag 999c 15:44 bag @marc 999c 15:44 huginn bag: unknown tag 999 15:44 bag @marc 999 15:43 huginn bag: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). [] 15:43 bag @marc 001 15:43 gaetan_B where 001 is the identifier in the current system 15:43 gaetan_B ok that's a difference with unimarc 15:43 bag hmm gmcharlt I had a lot to do with writing that MOU - what’s the question 15:43 gmcharlt drojf: we'll see; I've got a question in to THT about one of the details of the MOU 15:43 bag biblionumber really is a local control number 15:43 gaetan_B or to have both of both worlds with biblio.biblionumber mapped to 999c and biblioitems.biblionumber to 001 ? 15:42 drojf which is independent of the koha internal biblio number 15:42 bag gaetan_B: 999c would be a local_control number 15:42 drojf 001 is control number i think 15:42 gaetan_B is it an issue to remap it ? 15:42 gaetan_B in the marc21 setup, the biblionumber is linked to 999c, but my understanding of the standard is that it should be in 001 15:42 drojf heh 15:42 bag I guess we don’t use it too much 15:41 bag ha that’s funny that your V is broken 15:41 drojf so what do we do? put them on the list? 15:40 drojf hi cait 15:39 cait like i remember it too 15:38 wahanui sounds like it is beer o'clock for you dcook? ;) 15:38 cait drojf: sounds like it 15:37 drojf today my 'v' is broken. it goes round and round. 15:37 drojf *even 15:37 drojf what's with the davidnind four? i think rangi was nominated by joann and it sounded like she had asked him. then BobB who i hope is still available een though we frustrated him by not voting immediately… paul_p was on the list and sounded like olunteering… i think gmcharlt and nengard were also mentioned 15:34 drojf bag++ 15:34 bag please someone volunteer with me 15:34 bag http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising 15:29 drojf *looks ok 15:28 drojf theres 2x 100$c and no 100$a. looks in normarc though 15:27 drojf nice, there's an error in the fastadd framework 15:14 wahanui hi, JesseM 15:14 JesseM Hi 15:12 cait hi #koha 15:03 drojf hi #koha 14:25 andreashm hi all 14:20 fridolin tcohen: you may link with omnibus Bug 7923 14:15 tcohen Joubu, good idea 14:14 Joubu tcohen: what about a new Koha::Version package? 14:13 fridolin yep, i've discovered this lib today 14:12 tcohen can C4::Context::VERSION be used without a use C4::Context; 14:11 tcohen Joubu: I recall, the problem is that loading C4::Context fails if there's no DB 14:11 Joubu tcohen: yep, sounds good :) 14:09 tcohen fridolin: you should thank nytprof 14:09 tcohen I will just change the workflow and set C4::Context::VERSION, and use it from the script (needed for the installer only I think) 14:09 fridolin tcohen: nice catch 14:08 tcohen Joubu: yes 14:08 Joubu tcohen: do you plan to provide a patch for bug 13758? 14:04 fridolin I have 0,41 seconds without patch and 0,22 seconds with 14:04 fridolin check its compilation 14:03 fridolin This performance improvement is very usefull for pages that only use C4::Auth as dependancy, like opac/tracklinks.pl 14:03 Joubu ok that's what you said... 14:03 Joubu seems to be in used at the opac too 14:02 Joubu 1206 my ( $total, $pubshelves ) = C4::VirtualShelves::GetSomeShelfNames( undef, 'MASTHEAD' ); 14:02 Joubu 1205 if ( $type eq 'opac' ) { 14:01 Joubu fridolin: Hum, IMO it will be negligible 13:56 ashimema whers' huggin 13:53 fridolin tcohen: you may link also 13:53 fridolin i've linked to omnibus BZ7923 13:52 fridolin I m on Bug 13852 13:51 fridolin just found something interesting in C4::Auth 13:51 tcohen fridolin: bug 13758 13:51 fridolin I test the compilation time 13:50 fridolin I'm looking around for some permormance imrovement 12:57 ashimema i.e. /cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl?userid=thingy&password=thingy no longer works? 12:56 ashimema anyone notice when that broke? 12:56 ashimema one used to be able to login to sco via url params.. 12:53 tcohen hi eythian 12:47 ashimema not yet 12:46 tcohen ashimema: have you seen comment from Jlian on the REST bug? 12:46 tcohen morning #koha 10:14 kivilahtio hi 10:10 fridolin kivilahtio: hie Carot'Man 09:59 kivilahtio Joubu: neat! Ill check them out 09:51 Joubu akafred (and others): I have submited a couple of cucumber tests on bug 13849 09:50 nlegrand Hey #koha 09:20 atheia Morning Koha 09:10 kivilahtio hie frido 08:41 fridolin hie all 08:34 magnuse huh? 08:29 kivilahtio I have ? 08:29 magnuse we do? 08:28 kivilahtio magnuse: atleast we have munin 08:26 drojf hei magnuse 08:22 magnuse moin drojf gaetan_B 08:19 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B 08:19 gaetan_B hello 08:17 drojf morning #koha 08:03 magnuse aww... still no huginn 08:02 alex_a salut magnuse 08:02 magnuse @wunder boo 08:02 magnuse bonjour alex_a 07:54 wahanui bonjour, alex_a 07:54 alex_a bonjour 07:54 reiveune salut magnuse 07:54 magnuse bonjour reiveune 07:50 wahanui que tal, reiveune 07:50 reiveune hello 06:51 * magnuse waves 06:14 dcook html5shiv wasn't working right... 06:14 dcook Bah! 05:46 dcook Tag souuuuuup! 05:34 dcook Yay for modern browsers that deal with it well, but it lets people get away with a lot.. 05:34 dcook Tag soup... well that helps no one 05:33 dcook html5shiv helps a lot 05:33 dcook It's actually not too bad. 05:33 dcook If I didn't laugh, I'd cry :) 05:33 dcook hehe 05:27 wahanui okay, eythian. 05:27 eythian wahanui: dcook is also Sisyphus 05:21 * dcook goes back to debugging IE8... 05:21 dcook Yeah, not sure about authorities. We don't use them much. 05:20 dcook later eythian 05:20 * eythian & 05:20 eythian not too sure 05:20 eythian it might be the module one 05:20 eythian maybe not 05:20 eythian oh 05:20 eythian I think it's the options one 05:19 eythian it's not particularly 05:19 paxed LinkerModule? LinkerOptions? not exactly ... documented. 05:16 eythian there's a syspref for it somewhere 05:16 eythian that is configurable 05:15 paxed the linking script is wonky - it links to stuff that matches partially, so you get links to authorities that have nothing to do with the topic. 05:14 eythian it's possible that the linking script does it, but I'm not sure 05:12 paxed there* 05:12 paxed is the cmdline script to remove links to non-existing authorities? 05:04 dcook hehe 05:02 mveron :-) 05:02 eythian later :) 05:02 mveron Have a wonderful daytime, everybody! 05:01 * mveron has to go, travel days until Thursday... Still dark, I see no weather anyway... 04:59 eythian https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/index.php/s/9IpYbkwYCKPLswA <-- no really. Unfortunately that app takes pretty blurry photos. 04:58 mveron :-) 04:58 mveron ...and we have to type bug urls... Like http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13813 - - Remove deprecated module C4::Dates from system 04:56 mveron ...and streetview to see what changed in the street since last two years... 04:56 dcook Hmm, looks like weather of some kind... 04:56 * dcook looks out the window 04:56 dcook hehe 04:56 eythian my phone's weather app is telling me to look outside for more information 04:55 * mveron Has to look out of the window... Hmm, dark... 04:54 eythian mveron: huginn is awol 04:54 eythian dcook: I've had this address for a long time, but the server that runs it is getting long in the tooth and is way out of date 04:54 mveron @wunder Allschwil 04:54 mveron hi eythian 04:53 eythian hi mveron 04:53 mveron heya dcook 04:53 dcook eythian: Yeah, I've been lucky not to get much with my current email. I suppose I've only had it for a few years though. 04:53 dcook heya mveron 04:52 mveron Good morning / Daytime, #koha 04:50 eythian I need to move my mail to another server some time soon, that'll help. 04:49 eythian my filter hasn't been reconfigured in years, I'm surprised it does so well 04:49 dcook Those Poles! 04:47 eythian though I think the polish has mostly been going through my filter 04:47 eythian looking back through the subjects of my personal email spam folder, it's all english in the past couple of days, except one chinese one 04:45 dcook The work email is usually English 04:45 dcook That's the personal email at least 04:45 dcook Which does make it a lot easier to see the spam.. 04:45 dcook I usually just get French spam and occasionally some English 04:45 eythian (for non-english spam, anyway) 04:44 eythian lately it's been polish and vietnamise 04:44 dcook Hmm, maybe isn't just me then 04:44 eythian Every once in a while I get a bunch of it 04:43 * dcook assumes most english speakers don't get French spam? 04:43 dcook Unless everyone gets them? 04:43 * dcook wonders what French-speaking service sold his email address to spammers... 04:42 dcook Of course the French scammers aren't as good... their email address is obviously nowhere even closer 04:42 dcook Probably counting on people switching paypal and services, and not noticing the extra S 04:42 dcook But they use "paypal@intl.services.com" 04:41 dcook So the actual paypal email is "service@intl.paypal.com" 04:41 dcook Oh... scammers are tricky 03:18 eythian haha 03:17 bag oh man the dog just walked by and “crop dusted†me 02:58 eythian yes, that 02:58 ibeardslee couldn't ? 02:56 eythian it took me the whole album to find that, I could remember what song the line was in... 02:55 ibeardslee .. .. .. in ter est ing 02:50 eythian http://professorelemental.bandcamp.com/track/penny-dreadful <-- ibeardslee, citation. 02:42 dcook hehe 02:41 eythian @later tell huginn you should come back 02:41 eythian nope 02:41 dcook huginn still hasn't returned though 02:27 wahanui eythian: huh? 02:27 eythian wahanui never left 02:27 eythian yep 02:27 ibeardslee .. wahanui where were you? 02:26 ibeardslee they do? 02:26 eythian Well you know what they say, nothing is impossible for a man with a top hat, with a monkey with a monocle! 02:10 wizzyrea a monocle, clearly. 02:10 wizzyrea that is something. I'm not sure what. 02:09 eythian https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/weiner/the-gentlemans-single-use-monocle 02:09 wizzyrea and a sad trombone. 02:08 wizzyrea (with the resultant mental image of a dirt covered dummy lying sadly on the floor) 02:08 wizzyrea spit the dummy, that's a great phrase. 01:44 dcook Also keep meaning to give ownCloud a go. It seems great. 01:38 eythian haven't had that happen, but it's only mild use so far. 01:38 eythian ah OK 01:37 ibeardslee more spit the dummy than speed issues 01:36 eythian however, for using it for syncing my own stuff, speed is less important. 01:36 eythian also, the server I run it on isn't very fast anyway. 01:36 ibeardslee heh 01:36 eythian I currently have 621 files in there, which I don't think counts as large. 01:35 ibeardslee that's why we dropped it here and working on implementing seafile 01:35 eythian ibeardslee: dunno 01:35 eythian solved the problem I'd been having since Ubuntu One files shut down, with no easy way of syncing 01:34 ibeardslee do you know if they have dealt to the issues with large numbers of files? 01:34 eythian in vaugely related news, I got ownCloud 8 up and running on a server in the weekend. It's really quite nice. 01:33 eythian but there are also services that'll turn a page into an rss feed that is updated whenever the page is. 01:33 eythian dcook: some do, especially if they base it on wordpress or similar. 01:30 dcook Figure I may as well wait to upgrade to 15.04 instead of 14.10 if it's coming out in April... 01:29 * dcook went poking around yesterday as he couldn't remember when the next Ubuntu version was coming out 01:29 dcook Do many folks publish RSS feeds for releases? 01:28 eythian I was thinking it could be useful, among other things, to keep an eye on when new versions of things are released that I have to track manually. 01:11 dcook I keep meaning to start using RSS again... 00:55 rangi hmm yeah looks cool 00:54 wahanui i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad 00:54 wizzyrea interesting 00:41 eythian http://tt-rss.org/redmine/projects/tt-rss/wiki <-- I think I might have to go put that onto a server somewhere