Time  Nick        Message
00:41 eythian     http://tt-rss.org/redmine/projects/tt-rss/wiki <-- I think I might have to go put that onto a server somewhere
00:54 wizzyrea    interesting
00:54 wahanui     i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
00:55 rangi       hmm yeah looks cool
01:11 dcook       I keep meaning to start using RSS again...
01:28 eythian     I was thinking it could be useful, among other things, to keep an eye on when new versions of things are released that I have to track manually.
01:29 dcook       Do many folks publish RSS feeds for releases?
01:29 * dcook     went poking around yesterday as he couldn't remember when the next Ubuntu version was coming out
01:30 dcook       Figure I may as well wait to upgrade to 15.04 instead of 14.10 if it's coming out in April...
01:33 eythian     dcook: some do, especially if they base it on wordpress or similar.
01:33 eythian     but there are also services that'll turn a page into an rss feed that is updated whenever the page is.
01:34 eythian     in vaugely related news, I got ownCloud 8 up and running on a server in the weekend. It's really quite nice.
01:34 ibeardslee  do you know if they have dealt to the issues with large numbers of files?
01:35 eythian     solved the problem I'd been having since Ubuntu One files shut down, with no easy way of syncing
01:35 eythian     ibeardslee: dunno
01:35 ibeardslee  that's why we dropped it here and working on implementing seafile
01:36 eythian     I currently have 621 files in there, which I don't think counts as large.
01:36 ibeardslee  heh
01:36 eythian     also, the server I run it on isn't very fast anyway.
01:36 eythian     however, for using it for syncing my own stuff, speed is less important.
01:37 ibeardslee  more spit the dummy than speed issues
01:38 eythian     ah OK
01:38 eythian     haven't had that happen, but it's only mild use so far.
01:44 dcook       Also keep meaning to give ownCloud a go. It seems great.
02:08 wizzyrea    spit the dummy, that's a great phrase.
02:08 wizzyrea    (with the resultant mental image of a dirt covered dummy lying sadly on the floor)
02:09 wizzyrea    and a sad trombone.
02:09 eythian     https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/weiner/the-gentlemans-single-use-monocle
02:10 wizzyrea    that is something. I'm not sure what.
02:10 wizzyrea    a monocle, clearly.
02:26 eythian     Well you know what they say, nothing is impossible for a man with a top hat, with a monkey with a monocle!
02:26 ibeardslee  they do?
02:27 ibeardslee  .. wahanui where were you?
02:27 eythian     yep
02:27 eythian     wahanui never left
02:27 wahanui     eythian: huh?
02:41 dcook       huginn still hasn't returned though
02:41 eythian     nope
02:41 eythian     @later tell huginn you should come back
02:42 dcook       hehe
02:50 eythian     http://professorelemental.bandcamp.com/track/penny-dreadful <-- ibeardslee, citation.
02:55 ibeardslee  .. .. .. in ter est ing
02:56 eythian     it took me the whole album to find that, I could remember what song the line was in...
02:58 ibeardslee  couldn't ?
02:58 eythian     yes, that
03:17 bag         oh man the dog just walked by and “crop dusted” me
03:18 eythian     haha
04:41 dcook       Oh... scammers are tricky
04:41 dcook       So the actual paypal email is "service@intl.paypal.com"
04:42 dcook       But they use "paypal@intl.services.com"
04:42 dcook       Probably counting on people switching paypal and services, and not noticing the extra S
04:42 dcook       Of course the French scammers aren't as good... their email address is obviously nowhere even closer
04:43 * dcook     wonders what French-speaking service sold his email address to spammers...
04:43 dcook       Unless everyone gets them?
04:43 * dcook     assumes most english speakers don't get French spam?
04:44 eythian     Every once in a while I get a bunch of it
04:44 dcook       Hmm, maybe isn't just me then
04:44 eythian     lately it's been polish and vietnamise
04:45 eythian     (for non-english spam, anyway)
04:45 dcook       I usually just get French spam and occasionally some English
04:45 dcook       Which does make it a lot easier to see the spam..
04:45 dcook       That's the personal email at least
04:45 dcook       The work email is usually English
04:47 eythian     looking back through the subjects of my personal email spam folder, it's all english in the past couple of days, except one chinese one
04:47 eythian     though I think the polish has mostly been going through my filter
04:49 dcook       Those Poles!
04:49 eythian     my filter hasn't been reconfigured in years, I'm surprised it does so well
04:50 eythian     I need to move my mail to another server some time soon, that'll help.
04:52 mveron      Good morning / Daytime, #koha
04:53 dcook       heya mveron
04:53 dcook       eythian: Yeah, I've been lucky not to get much with my current email. I suppose I've only had it for a few years though.
04:53 mveron      heya dcook
04:53 eythian     hi mveron
04:54 mveron      hi eythian
04:54 mveron      @wunder Allschwil
04:54 eythian     dcook: I've had this address for a long time, but the server that runs it is getting long in the tooth and is way out of date
04:54 eythian     mveron: huginn is awol
04:55 * mveron    Has to look out of the window... Hmm, dark...
04:56 eythian     my phone's weather app is telling me to look outside for more information
04:56 dcook       hehe
04:56 * dcook     looks out the window
04:56 dcook       Hmm, looks like weather of some kind...
04:56 mveron      ...and streetview to see what changed in the street since last two years...
04:58 mveron      ...and we have to type bug urls...   Like http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13813  -  - Remove deprecated module C4::Dates from system
04:58 mveron      :-)
04:59 eythian     https://owncloud.kallisti.net.nz/index.php/s/9IpYbkwYCKPLswA <-- no really. Unfortunately that app takes pretty blurry photos.
05:01 * mveron    has to go, travel days until Thursday... Still dark, I see no weather anyway...
05:02 mveron      Have a wonderful daytime, everybody!
05:02 eythian     later :)
05:02 mveron      :-)
05:04 dcook       hehe
05:12 paxed       is the cmdline script to remove links to non-existing authorities?
05:12 paxed       there*
05:14 eythian     it's possible that the linking script does it, but I'm not sure
05:15 paxed       the linking script is wonky - it links to stuff that matches partially, so you get links to authorities that have nothing to do with the topic.
05:16 eythian     that is configurable
05:16 eythian     there's a syspref for it somewhere
05:19 paxed       LinkerModule? LinkerOptions? not exactly ... documented.
05:19 eythian     it's not particularly
05:20 eythian     I think it's the options one
05:20 eythian     oh
05:20 eythian     maybe not
05:20 eythian     it might be the module one
05:20 eythian     not too sure
05:20 * eythian   &
05:20 dcook       later eythian
05:21 dcook       Yeah, not sure about authorities. We don't use them much.
05:21 * dcook     goes back to debugging IE8...
05:27 eythian     wahanui: dcook is also Sisyphus
05:27 wahanui     okay, eythian.
05:33 dcook       hehe
05:33 dcook       If I didn't laugh, I'd cry :)
05:33 dcook       It's actually not too bad.
05:33 dcook       html5shiv helps a lot
05:34 dcook       Tag soup... well that helps no one
05:34 dcook       Yay for modern browsers that deal with it well, but it lets people get away with a lot..
05:46 dcook       Tag souuuuuup!
06:14 dcook       Bah!
06:14 dcook       html5shiv wasn't working right...
06:51 * magnuse   waves
07:50 reiveune    hello
07:50 wahanui     que tal, reiveune
07:54 magnuse     bonjour reiveune
07:54 reiveune    salut magnuse
07:54 alex_a      bonjour
07:54 wahanui     bonjour, alex_a
08:02 magnuse     bonjour alex_a
08:02 magnuse     @wunder boo
08:02 alex_a      salut magnuse
08:03 magnuse     aww... still no huginn
08:17 drojf       morning #koha
08:19 gaetan_B    hello
08:19 wahanui     niihau, gaetan_B
08:22 magnuse     moin drojf gaetan_B
08:26 drojf       hei magnuse
08:28 kivilahtio  magnuse: atleast we have munin
08:29 magnuse     we do?
08:29 kivilahtio  I have ?
08:34 magnuse     huh?
08:41 fridolin    hie all
09:10 kivilahtio  hie frido
09:20 atheia      Morning Koha
09:50 nlegrand    Hey #koha
09:51 Joubu       akafred (and others): I have submited a couple of cucumber tests on bug 13849
09:59 kivilahtio  Joubu: neat! Ill check them out
10:10 fridolin    kivilahtio: hie Carot'Man
10:14 kivilahtio  hi
12:46 tcohen      morning #koha
12:46 tcohen      ashimema: have you seen comment from Jlian on the REST bug?
12:47 ashimema    not yet
12:53 tcohen      hi eythian
12:56 ashimema    one used to be able to login to sco via url params..
12:56 ashimema    anyone notice when that broke?
12:57 ashimema    i.e. /cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl?userid=thingy&password=thingy no longer works?
13:50 fridolin    I'm looking around for some permormance imrovement
13:51 fridolin    I test the compilation time
13:51 tcohen      fridolin: bug 13758
13:51 fridolin    just found something interesting in C4::Auth
13:52 fridolin    I m on Bug 13852
13:53 fridolin    i've linked to omnibus BZ7923
13:53 fridolin    tcohen: you may link also
13:56 ashimema    whers' huggin
14:01 Joubu       fridolin: Hum, IMO it will be negligible
14:02 Joubu       1205     if ( $type eq 'opac' ) {
14:02 Joubu       1206         my ( $total, $pubshelves ) = C4::VirtualShelves::GetSomeShelfNames( undef, 'MASTHEAD' );
14:03 Joubu       seems to be in used at the opac too
14:03 Joubu       ok that's what you said...
14:03 fridolin    This performance improvement is very usefull for pages that only use C4::Auth as dependancy, like opac/tracklinks.pl
14:04 fridolin    check its compilation
14:04 fridolin    I have 0,41 seconds without patch and 0,22 seconds with
14:08 Joubu       tcohen: do you plan to provide a patch for bug 13758?
14:08 tcohen      Joubu: yes
14:09 fridolin    tcohen: nice catch
14:09 tcohen      I will just change the workflow and set C4::Context::VERSION, and use it from the script (needed for the installer only I think)
14:09 tcohen      fridolin: you should thank nytprof
14:11 Joubu       tcohen: yep, sounds good :)
14:11 tcohen      Joubu: I recall, the problem is that loading C4::Context fails if there's no DB
14:12 tcohen      can C4::Context::VERSION be used without a use C4::Context;
14:13 fridolin    yep, i've discovered this lib today
14:14 Joubu       tcohen: what about a new Koha::Version package?
14:15 tcohen      Joubu, good idea
14:20 fridolin    tcohen: you may link with omnibus Bug 7923
14:25 andreashm   hi all
15:03 drojf       hi #koha
15:12 cait        hi #koha
15:14 JesseM      Hi
15:14 wahanui     hi, JesseM
15:27 drojf       nice, there's an error in the fastadd framework
15:28 drojf       theres 2x 100$c and no 100$a. looks in normarc though
15:29 drojf       *looks ok
15:34 bag         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising
15:34 bag         please someone volunteer with me
15:34 drojf       bag++
15:37 drojf       what's with the davidnind four? i think rangi was nominated by joann and it sounded like she had asked him. then BobB who i hope is still available een though we frustrated him by not voting immediately… paul_p was on the list and sounded like olunteering… i think gmcharlt and nengard were also mentioned
15:37 drojf       *even
15:37 drojf       today my 'v' is broken. it goes round and round.
15:38 cait        drojf: sounds like it
15:38 wahanui     sounds like it is beer o'clock for you dcook? ;)
15:39 cait        like i remember it too
15:40 drojf       hi cait
15:41 drojf       so what do we do? put them on the list?
15:41 bag         ha that’s funny that your V is broken
15:42 bag         I guess we don’t use it too much
15:42 drojf       heh
15:42 gaetan_B    in the marc21 setup, the biblionumber is linked to 999c, but my understanding of the standard is that it should be in 001
15:42 gaetan_B    is it an issue to remap it ?
15:42 drojf       001 is control number i think
15:42 bag         gaetan_B: 999c would be a local_control number
15:42 drojf       which is independent of the koha internal biblio number
15:43 gaetan_B    or to have both of both worlds with biblio.biblionumber mapped to 999c and biblioitems.biblionumber to 001 ?
15:43 bag         biblionumber really is a local control number
15:43 gmcharlt    drojf: we'll see; I've got a question in to THT about one of the details of the MOU
15:43 bag         hmm gmcharlt I had a lot to do with writing that MOU - what’s the question
15:43 gaetan_B    ok that's a difference with unimarc
15:43 gaetan_B    where 001 is the identifier in the current system
15:43 bag         @marc 001
15:43 huginn      bag: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). []
15:44 bag         @marc 999
15:44 huginn      bag: unknown tag 999
15:44 bag         @marc 999c
15:44 huginn      bag: unknown tag 999c
15:44 bag         @marc 999$c
15:44 huginn      bag: unknown tag 999$c
15:44 cait        gaetan_B: don't remap it
15:45 drojf       i think 003 + 001 is supposed to be a unique identifier (organization code plus identifier in something like a union catalog), even though koha does not really work that way
15:45 cait        gaetan_B: you will get int rouble with your zebra indexing
15:45 cait        becuase it looks for the unique biblionumber in 999c
15:45 gmcharlt    bag: it boils down to I would feel more comfortable if the MOU explicitly stated that a conflict of interest policy would be adopted (NOTE: I'm not asking that the MOU include a fully-fleshed-out COI policy)
15:45 gaetan_B    well, my understanding (working with libraries that follow unimarc mostly) is that the organization using the record is the one running koha
15:45 cait        and 001 can be anything coming in from import.. if you have one doubled up you are in even more trouble
15:45 gaetan_B    hence it should be the biblionumber ?
15:46 gaetan_B    cait: i could change the zebra setup
15:46 cait        yes... yes you could
15:46 bag         yeah gmcharlt I feel that is outside the scope of the MOU
15:46 cait        but i woud lnot recommend it
15:46 gaetan_B    i'm more worried about this location for the biblionumber being hardcoded somewhere
15:46 cait        yes
15:46 cait        999c is the standard for marc21 too
15:46 cait        and people can't edit it
15:46 cait        which is good
15:46 cait        because this index is fuzzy about duplicates
15:46 drojf       gmcharlt: my understanding is that that is something to follow later. but i may be wrong
15:47 gaetan_B    but what i was thinking of doing was to have it both ways with biblio.biblionumber mapped to 999c and biblioitems.biblionumber to 001
15:47 cait        i wouldn't play with it
15:47 cait        i broke it once
15:47 cait        not touching it again ;)
15:47 drojf       heh
15:47 gaetan_B    i don't work with marc21 librarie as often as you, but is it never a requirement from them to have their identifiers in 001 ?
15:48 bag         the MOU (IMO) is not by-laws…
15:48 gaetan_B    (the library i am working with right now wants it this way)
15:48 cait        gaetan_B: our identifieres are in 001 - but they are not bilbionumbers :)
15:48 gaetan_B    so the librarians create their own identifiers ?
15:48 drojf       i think there is/was a script to have a copy of biblionumber in 001
15:48 cait        if they download a record from z39.50 001 will be most likely set with the number of the records id
15:48 cait        koha doesn't requiere 001, they coudl put the bilbionumber there, but koha is happy without anything in it currently - it wouldn't be if you changed the mapping tho
15:49 cait        and 001 from external soruces is only unique in combination with the org code in 003
15:51 bag         bascially the MOU is - HLT do you agree to collect money (have bank account) to be used for Koha?  yes - then great :)
15:52 gaetan_B    thanks, i will see if they can deal with a biblionumber in 999c and not 001
15:52 cait        gaetan_B: do you knwo why they are so keen on the biblionumber in 001? do they want to link records?
15:53 gaetan_B    they certainly want to link records
15:53 gaetan_B    also that is their understanding of the standard (and mine too ;))
15:53 bag         you could totally copy the 999c to the 001…
15:54 gaetan_B    "An          organization receiving a record may move the incoming control number from field 001 (and          the control number identifier from field 003) to field 035 (System Control Number), 010                      (Library of Congress Control Number), or 016 (National Bibliographic Agency Control                      Number), as appropriate, and place its own system control number in field 001 (and its                      control number identifi
15:54 bag         The standard (how I understand it) is that whomever “creates” the record - you put your record identifier in 001…  If you copy catalog (ie z3950) then the 001 should already be populated...
15:55 cait        gaetan_B: i think the problem is just that they will forget that
15:55 cait        and i am not sure what koha does if you import things in the biblionumber field
15:55 drojf       explode? just a guess
15:55 gaetan_B    in our unimarc setups, 001 is used for the biblionumber
15:55 gaetan_B    when you import a record
15:55 gaetan_B    the marcfield is updated with the koha biblionumber
15:55 cait        dunno, i broke it when i added another field to the local-number index and it was no longer unique - created a lot of trrouble on import/indexing
15:56 gaetan_B    and the incoming 001 is not kept
15:56 cait        we need the incoming 001 for our union catalog matching currently
15:56 bag         in marc21 999 is not kept
15:56 bag         wait
15:57 bag         I don’t know
15:57 bag         HA
15:57 bag         ok I’m out of this conversation - good luck gaetan_B
15:57 drojf       lol
15:57 gaetan_B    :)
15:57 drojf       i will miss MARC
15:57 bag         I will not
15:57 drojf       :P
15:57 bag         but who knows what can of worms bibframe (or whatever) will have
15:57 gaetan_B    i'm looking forward to the day i will miss MARC
15:58 cait        gaetan_B: you could try it, but it might cause more and more work with a nonstandard indexing and all
15:58 gaetan_B    i will first try to talk them into not doing it then
15:58 gaetan_B    but if i may troll a little more on the marc21 subject, i really think we have it wrong here :p
15:59 bag         akafred: https://github.com/ebsco/edsapi-koha-plugin  (that’s the EDS plugin for EBSCO and koha)
15:59 bag         so that is the meat behind the spec that I showed in marseille
15:59 bag         they want the restful apis in koha, so they can integrate those into the plugins and into their discovery end
16:04 drojf       i added the davidnind four (five) to the list at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising now because nobody else was doing it. it seemed like we all could have agreed to them last time. not saysing they are volunteering, they should express consent or concern before we vote (as gmcharlt already mentioned)
16:05 reiveune    bye
16:06 drojf       on a side note, i think it would be nice to see a woman or two among the signatories
16:07 bag         agreed :)
16:08 bag         just need to volunteer
17:10 tcohen      hi
17:10 wahanui     salut, tcohen
17:10 tcohen      back from power outage
17:15 cait        have a nice evening all
17:18 gaetan_B    bye!
17:20 tcohen      bye cait
17:22 bag         heya tcohen
17:23 tcohen      hi bag
18:11 tcohen      Joubu: i just attached what I already had, just needed to recover it from the latest system crash
18:35 * magnuse   waves
18:35 magnuse     bag: HI
18:35 wahanui     salut, magnuse
18:36 bag         magnuse: knuckles
18:38 magnuse     bag: knuckles straight back attcha!
18:39 * bag       (squids away)
18:39 bag         >>>>>>>
18:41 * magnuse   explodes
18:41 * magnuse   wishes there were more hours in the day
18:47 magnuse     (nice graphic for the squidding, btw)
19:33 andreashm   hello
19:33 wahanui     what's up, andreashm
19:44 andreashm   fun times in stockholm today.
19:46 andreashm   close to 40 people, from around 20 institutions, talking koha. neat.
19:49 drojf       cool
19:49 drojf       andreashm: what was the occasion?
19:55 andreashm   drojf: the national library had invited for a round-table discussion on koha, and nation-wide needs of Libris (union catalog in Sweden) from koha libraries.
19:56 andreashm   not so many that are using yet in sweden, but plenty of interest: hence, the big turnout.
19:56 andreashm   (koha, that is)
19:57 drojf       yes, very cool. i thought it's basically halland using it, you in stockholm working on it… and that's all i heard of so far
19:59 andreashm   there's a few smaller libraries using it too.
20:00 * magnuse   waves
20:02 magnuse     sipri, wmu, munkagårdsgymnasiet, lund montessorrigrundskola, hylte public library
20:02 magnuse     those are the ones i know abut using koha today
20:03 magnuse     sipri has been using koha for a looong time, i helped them upgrade from 2.2.9
20:03 magnuse     40 people is awesome!
20:04 andreashm   magnuse: it was fun. you were mentioned as well. =)
20:05 magnuse     yay!
20:05 magnuse     well, i hope it was yay...
20:05 andreashm   magnuse: you can add Världsbiblioteket to your list, as well.
20:05 magnuse     ah yes, true!
20:05 drojf       that is quite a lot, nice!
20:05 andreashm   they were there today. and yes, your mention was positive - so that would be a yay
20:06 magnuse     good to hear! :-)
20:06 magnuse     i or someone else should do a list like this for sweden too: http://libriotech.no/koha-i-norge
20:08 andreashm   we should make such a list yes.
20:09 andreashm   magnuse: why isn't Deichmanske on your koha i norge list?
20:10 andreashm   because they're not up and running yet perhaps?
20:10 andreashm   (yes, I like answering my own questions, apparently.)
20:11 magnuse     yeah, the list is libraries that are using koha today
20:12 magnuse     i could perhaps have an extra list with libraries that have chosen koha but are not live yet
20:12 magnuse     and i shoud link to the opacs
20:12 andreashm   that would be neat
20:13 rangi       morning
20:14 andreashm   evening
20:15 drojf       irc doesn't like me today
20:17 * cait      waves
20:17 drojf       hi cait
20:17 cait        hi drojf
20:20 andreashm   hey cait
20:21 cait        h andreashm :)
20:21 BobB        hi mtj
20:21 cait        *coughs*!
20:21 cait        ;)
20:22 * andreashm is totally innocent... perhaps.
20:22 mtj         hi folks
20:22 andreashm   hey mtj
20:23 mtj         cait:  you still have a cold, from biblibre hackfest?
20:25 cait        yep
20:25 cait        stll coughing
20:25 mtj         you and andreashm both huh... :/
20:26 cait        but i kinda was not very reasonable last week ... so it's not very surprising
20:26 drojf       hi rangi and BobB, i put you on the list because you were suggested at the last meeting. maybe you could express concent or concerns in the wiki :) http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Fundraising
20:26 cait        mtj: i think a lot of people brought something with them, a  big pool to pick a cold from :)
20:26 andreashm   cait: at least you didn't get the fever (right?). be very thankful for that. =)
20:27 cait        only one night  with a bit of fever (and very thankful :) )
20:27 cait        but you are ok now?
20:27 andreashm   yeah, just an annoying cough left.
20:27 andreashm   otherwise good, thankfully.
20:27 cait        tell me :)
20:27 cait        same here :)
20:28 cait        glad you got rigt
20:28 cait        glad you got better
20:28 andreashm   thanks cait
20:29 andreashm   ok, off to bed (early tonight)
20:29 cait        bye andreashm
20:40 magnuse     andreashm++ for dropping by
21:02 drojf       good night #koha
21:05 magnuse     have fun #koha
21:32 cait        andreashm++ http://elag2015.org/program/
21:33 cait        also a prsentation from opl there
21:37 bag         :)
21:49 * Francesca waves
21:49 rangi       hi Francesca
21:49 Francesca   haven't heard from aleshia yet
21:50 Francesca   I might do some work on the dashboard in the meantime and catch up with hea-app when I go on mid semester break over easter
21:51 rangi       sweet as
21:53 Francesca   I really like doing the stuff over IRC
21:53 Francesca   I get to talk to some awesome people
21:53 wizzyrea    :)
21:56 Francesca   hey wizzyrea :)
21:56 wizzyrea    hello!
21:57 bag         heya Francesca
21:57 wahanui     I love the 11th doctor!
21:57 Francesca   lol I love that
21:57 * cait      waves
21:58 * Francesca waves at cait
21:58 cait        :)
22:01 cait        Continue translation (2475 words left) < sigh
22:01 cait        bgkriegel++
22:02 Francesca   thats a lot of words to translate
22:09 mtj         interesting perl stuff.. -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YZNwO-uCVg
22:09 mtj         'The p5-MOP Rides Again'
22:10 dcook       Hmm huginn is back
22:11 eythian     hi
22:12 bag         @wunder 93111
22:12 huginn      bag: The current temperature in Eastern Goleta Valley, Santa Barbara, California is 21.0°C (3:10 PM PDT on March 17, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
22:12 mtj         i hadnt heard of this, till now.. -> https://github.com/stevan/p5-mop-redux
22:12 dcook       bug 13852
22:12 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13852 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , Manage C4::VirtualShelves in C4::Auth for performance
22:13 cait        Francesca: updates to the help files - bit more than usually
22:16 tcohen      hi there
22:16 wahanui     hola, tcohen
22:16 bag         heya tcohen
22:17 cait        hi tcohen
22:17 tcohen      hi cait :-D
22:17 tcohen      did i leave the chatroom?
22:17 bag         welcome back tcohen
22:17 bag         ^^^^^
22:18 * tcohen    is testing a new irc client, sorry :-D
22:18 tcohen      join #bash
22:19 bag         tcohen++
22:21 bag         sonja and ginny are making green rice-krispy treats this afternoon
22:21 bag         with lucky charms in them
22:21 tcohen      !!
22:23 cait        wow :)
22:23 cait        photos?
22:23 wahanui     photos are stored in a database table linked to my borrower record, i think it's patronimages
22:23 bag         cait I will take some as they work on it
23:06 cait        hmsomeone around who could test item search on current master?
23:06 cait        i just get the 'processing' but no items
23:31 wizzyrea    wfm
23:32 wizzyrea    Showing 1 to 20 of 30,149
23:32 wizzyrea    also that functionality should be more prominent, because it's a good feature.
23:33 wizzyrea    cait: what search were you doing?
23:33 cait        empty, just sending the form without any changes
23:34 wizzyrea    that wfm too
23:34 cait        so it works for you?
23:34 wizzyrea    yep
23:34 cait        aaaah works for me
23:34 cait        might be the data then? :(
23:34 cait        i wanted to fix the by always showing up
23:34 cait        even if there is no author
23:34 cait        but i need to make it work first hm.
23:34 wizzyrea    also because of ISBD punctuation, the by looks really silly.
23:35 wizzyrea    because many titles have a period on them
23:35 wizzyrea    it needs a lot of ux work, that
23:35 wizzyrea    but it's a great feature.
23:35 cait        yeah agreed
23:35 cait        not needed for marc21
23:36 cait        i also had some cases where the title didn't show up
23:36 cait        could you check if that happens for you?
23:36 wizzyrea    maybe because it was in one of the serial title fields instead of the 245a?
23:36 wizzyrea    if I had to make a completely wretched guess, it's not checking all the places where we could have a title for the title.
23:36 cait        i hecked, it had 245a
23:36 wizzyrea    weird.
23:37 cait        yeah
23:37 cait        but... stuck now on my installaiton
23:37 cait        there is something that makes it unhappy
23:37 cait        hm
23:37 wizzyrea    also loathsome, is the fact that clicking back from the results takes you back to the advanced search screen, you have to click back into it.
23:37 cait        wne when i try to limit to all libraires (marking them all) it says no data
23:38 wizzyrea    all libraries wfm
23:38 cait        yeah, bit strangely integrated
23:38 wizzyrea    why should I click the tiny link "edit search" such silly.
23:38 wizzyrea    that's not a paradigm we use anywhere else
23:38 wizzyrea    ok now I"m having a grump about it.
23:40 cait        hmm yeah something is weird here
23:40 cait        i just picked midway
23:40 cait        and 'loading' again
23:40 wizzyrea    oh
23:40 wizzyrea    um let me log in with a proper not db user
23:40 cait        i am not even sur ehow to debug this ajax thing.meh.
23:42 wizzyrea    no, it still works for me
23:42 cait        wizzyrea: exporting to csv works for me too
23:42 cait        but not displayingon screen...
23:42 wizzyrea    this is basically a glorified items report wizard thing.
23:45 cait        hmmm ok
23:45 cait        a search for a barcode works
23:45 cait        might be diacritics?
23:45 cait        i got lots of diacritics...
23:47 wizzyrea    I had a few too, there are encoding issues on that page
23:47 cait        hm no
23:47 wizzyrea    but it doesn't stop mine
23:47 cait        ah encoding worked alright for me
23:47 cait        i am looking at something hebrew now
23:48 cait        looksok
23:50 dcook       Took me a sec to figure out "wfm" too
23:50 cait        must be the data
23:50 cait        a search fr barcode begins with t works too
23:50 cait        gives me 2 items
23:50 cait        one of my items breaks it
23:51 cait        i only have 24... but meh
23:51 * dcook     perks up
23:51 cait        too late to figure that out i guess
23:51 dcook       cait: Did you say a barcode is breaking something?
23:51 cait        not quite :)
23:51 * dcook     ran into this problem using a barcode with a hyphen while using ICU... just saying
23:51 dcook       (with Zebra 2.0.59)
23:51 cait        a search result for 'barcode begins with t' seems to work ok, but could be any item field in one of th eothers breaking it i guess
23:51 cait        i think tiem search is not using zebra
23:52 dcook       I suppose I should've read the full scrollback before piping up :p
23:52 * dcook     retreats back into the shadows
23:52 cait        heh *hands dcook some peanut butter cups*
23:54 * bag       passes dcook some rice-krispy treats
23:54 cait        btw bug 13858 - super easy signoff
23:54 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13858 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Datatables paging for news page is broken