Time  Nick         Message
23:46 drojf        almost 1am. i should leave before i'm 24/7. goodnight, have a nice day
23:41 dcook        True true
23:41 dcook        hehe
23:39 drojf        dcook: if you were 24/7, you'd be right in time for anyone ;)
23:36 dcook        If only all open source projects were 24/7...
21:49 eythian      hi
20:43 cait         morning rangi
20:42 rangi        morning
20:41 * cait       waves
19:58 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update 2 typos
19:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #651: SUCCESS in 2 min 21 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/651/
19:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #651 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FIXED)
19:51 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update 2 typos
19:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.16.x build #18: SUCCESS in 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.16.x/18/
19:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #18 for job Koha_Docs_3.16.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:28 barton       ^^ thanks for working with me on label printing bugs.
19:27 barton       chris_n++
19:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #60 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:55 drojf        hi tcohen
18:54 tcohen       hi there
18:09 * mveron     says good night to #koha, going to the theatre...
17:26 gaetan_B     bye
16:06 bgkriegel    :)
16:03 Joubu        bgkriegel: hum, looks good now, I don't know what I did!
15:57 pastebot     "bgkriegel" at 200.16.17.253 pasted "Joubu: works for me!" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/4
15:54 Joubu        is it "normal"?
15:54 Joubu        sh: 1: Syntax error: end of file unexpected
15:54 Joubu        bgkriegel: ./translate install es-ES
15:50 barton       akafred++
15:50 huginn       barton: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
15:50 barton       @akafred++
15:49 barton       magnuse, akafred: adding 'config.vm.network "public_network"' to the appropriate section of Vagrantfile worked like a charm.
15:44 barton       the alt text is especially apropos
15:44 drojf        :D
15:44 drojf        heh
15:42 barton       drojf: http://xkcd.com/979/
15:22 fridolin     drojf: ok
15:06 drojf        greetings to future me from the present, which will be your past :)
15:06 drojf        it's fantastic to have a problem and find yourself in the koha logs 3 years ago having the same
15:05 drojf        building as root worked
14:51 drojf        Joubu fridolin it looks like i made something funny with dh-make-perl, it installed to my home directory ;)
14:41 akafred      barton: https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/networking/public_network.html   -- I think this would work: config.vm.network "public_network" --- remember to vagrant reload after changing the Vagrant file.
14:38 * magnuse    wanders off to make dinner
14:38 magnuse      patches are welcome, if you find a solution (it would probably have to be optional?) :-)
14:38 magnuse      barton: dunno, but have a look at https://docs.vagrantup.com/v2/vagrantfile/index.html
14:37 barton       ... I can always futz around with the vm in virtualbox, but it would be nice to be able to set it up to start that way.
14:36 barton       is there a way to set up kohadevbox so that it will start with a bridged network adapter?
14:28 fridolin     you look at "About" page maybe
14:28 fridolin     drojf: this dependancy is not mandatory, strange
14:11 Joubu        What returns `pmvers HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench`?
14:06 drojf        libhttpd-bench-apachebench-perl: Installiert:           0.73-1
14:06 drojf        apt-cache policy libhttpd-bench-apachebench-perl says
14:06 drojf        why would koha say "HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench (0.73) Not Installed" when i just installed it?
14:02 mveron       Hi again :-)
13:04 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12553 normal, P3, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , copynumber, location not printing correctly on spine labels.
13:04 barton       I have a partner who is very interested in the status of bug 12553. I left a @later for chris_n (to whom the ticket is assigned), but he seems to be out for an extended period of time. could someone else take a quick peek at it?
12:59 barton       morning all.
12:58 * barton     waves to #koha
12:32 akafred      Yet another approach is to create new test data with randomized identifiers, then you won't need to clean them up.
12:30 akafred      ... to measure performance, we need a certain amount of stuff ...
12:28 akafred      Another approach could be to load a known dataset (say a library with stuff) using sql before each test run, and then cleaning up the library afterwards.
12:27 akafred      But, this is the only time I have taken this approach. It is sort of a manual rollback ...
12:26 akafred      joubu: yep, this line ( https://github.com/digibib/ls.ext/blob/master/test/features/step_definitions/authorised_values_steps.rb#L12 ) pushes a {"text" => closure } onto a list, while this line: https://github.com/digibib/ls.ext/blob/master/test/features/support/hooks.rb#L58 runs the cleanup closures in reverse order.
12:24 jajm         akafred, you're right, mojo defaults to 204 No Content, it can be changed easily I think
12:23 Joubu        ok got it
12:22 Joubu        akafred: what does the cleanup call?
12:22 Joubu        akafred: my ruby skills are not good enough to understand everything
12:21 Joubu        kivilahtio: yep, I can update it
12:18 nlegrand     Hey #koha!
12:13 kivilahtio   +our patches
12:13 kivilahtio   it is for 3.16.4 so you might not be able to easily get the acquisitons data out
12:13 kivilahtio   Joubu: do you want our DB?
12:05 akafred      Joubu: And here is how we clean up: https://github.com/digibib/ls.ext/blob/master/test/features/support/hooks.rb#L58
12:02 akafred      jajm: Seems mojo defaults to returning http-status 204 if the Accept-header asks for a representation which isn't available. It should return 406.
11:51 magnuse      yay
11:50 meliss       hanging in there.
11:50 magnuse      and yerself?
11:49 magnuse      meliss: not too shabby - getting things done, for once
11:47 meliss       hi magnuse.  How are you today?
11:47 magnuse      hiya meliss
11:32 akafred      Yeah, I am starving, too. But no 'confit de canard' like I enjoyed when I snuck of for lunch in Marseille :-)
11:31 akafred      It is cumbersome, but for a limited set of scenarios - doable.
11:30 akafred      The first step here creates an authorized value - and registers a cleanup closure that will be run on test teardown.
11:30 akafred      We have a strategy where we create and clean up test data for each scenario. Like this: https://github.com/digibib/ls.ext/blob/master/test/features/step_definitions/authorised_values_steps.rb
11:29 Joubu        Anyway, I am starving!
11:28 akafred      Exactly.
11:28 Joubu        db_deps test only pass with a specific DB
11:27 Joubu        no! :)
11:27 akafred      Ah. So you run your db_dependent tests in production?
11:27 Joubu        akafred: yes, but no checkin/out for instance
11:27 akafred      Another way is to have sufficient test data to be able to find data you can use for a scenario as part of the test.
11:26 Joubu        but if something is wrong, the data could be not deleted. We don't want that in production :)
11:26 Joubu        yes, that's what I did in my selenium script (at least I think)
11:26 akafred      slow
11:26 akafred      We're currently doing this in Oslo, but it is slw.
11:25 akafred      There are ways to do this, one is to create test data in the test (and perhaps remove them again).
11:25 Joubu        except the ui
11:25 Joubu        I meant, with our current db dependent tests, we can test all what we want
11:25 akafred      I get what you are saying.
11:24 Joubu        last sentence does not mean anything...
11:24 Joubu        but with selenium, it won't possible to rollback
11:24 Joubu        akafred: yes they do, in a transaction
11:23 magnuse      have fun cait1
11:23 cait1        time for another trip on a train...
11:23 cait1        bye all
11:23 akafred      so the dbdependent-tests don't do that?
11:21 Joubu        and a lot of other actions
11:21 Joubu        for instance we cannot test checkin/out and data creation/modification
11:21 Joubu        akafred: but, I have a question, when you say "we would require the tests to pass along with production code changes", that's mean we cannot test all uc
11:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13691 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Add some selenium scripts
11:20 Joubu        akafred: thanks for your note on bug 13691!
11:18 akafred      ok. I'll try again, thanks Joubu
11:10 Joubu        akafred: don't know what was the issue, but I can confirm you the patch has correctly been applied on sandbox 16
11:08 Joubu        akafred: you should choose a DB
11:03 magnuse      akafred: rangi is probably asleep, but i believe so, yes
11:00 akafred      rangi: Is this the current NCIP-server-repo? http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=NCIPServer.git;a=summary
10:59 akafred      ... which doesn't tell me mucho.
10:58 akafred      Cool feature with the sandboxes, except i got a "sandbox is not ready !"
10:58 magnus_lunch atheia++
10:57 cait1        atheia++ :)
10:40 atheia       I'll put up an RFC with a link to my notes by the end of the week and send it to the list.
10:40 atheia       Re: ILL: Indeed, that's a pretty concise summary.
10:38 drojf        mveron: do you know about the technical aspects of ILL in switzerland?
10:35 magnuse      i think the conculsion was that it would be ideal if koha could cover a superset of all the workflows that koha libraries need, and then be able to turn off the things that are not relevant to a given library/country/ill system
10:33 magnuse      i think atheia took some notes?
10:32 akafred      I missed the ILL discussion in Marseille. How can I catch up?
10:07 cait         then i am going to miss the train :)
10:06 magnuse      just turn the clock back?
10:05 magnuse      cait: ?
10:05 cait         just lost an hour because my windows has the wrong time???
10:05 cait         hmpf
09:58 ashimema     but of a woddly system this morning it seems
09:58 ashimema     thanks magnuse..
09:58 ashimema     lol..
09:57 jajm         akafred, sandboxes are reset each night at 00:00 UTC, so you need to reapply the patch
09:57 * magnuse    hands ashimema the velcro
09:56 * magnuse    has "set up sandboxes with normarc" somewhere down on his todo list
09:56 magnuse      akafred: did you use http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sandboxes ?
09:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13799 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Add base for building RESTful API
09:52 akafred      jajm: re bug 13799 - couldn't find a working sandbox url ... is it still supposed to be there?
09:51 drojf        magnuse++
09:51 magnuse      drojf: maybe i did...
09:48 drojf        magnuse: did you just volunteer to send a reminder to the mailing lists? :)
09:48 kivilahtio   magnuse: thanks, I'll be there
09:47 kivilahtio   mveron: If I ever build a ship I know what kind of a bow wave i want
09:47 kivilahtio   thanks mveron, very interesting!
09:46 magnuse      kivilahtio: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_11_March_2015
09:46 mveron       :-)
09:46 mveron       kivilahtio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_wave
09:45 drojf        hehe a wave of bugs
09:44 kivilahtio   magnuse: what meeting?
09:44 mveron       kivilahtio: "Bugwelle" in German.
09:44 kivilahtio   who?
09:44 magnuse      meeting in 24 hours and 16 minutes, right?
09:44 kivilahtio   I am drowning... bulb bulb...
09:43 kivilahtio   noooo I can't take it anymore!
09:43 * magnuse    waves too
09:43 kivilahtio   bow wave?
09:43 * mveron     waves  ...and is in a bow wave of tasks...
09:39 ashimema     morning atheia, cait
09:37 atheia       Morning #koha
09:33 cait         :P
09:32 kivilahtio   watch out for waves!
09:32 * cait       waves
09:23 fridolin     i gone try to do more for the community
09:23 fridolin     i had greate time and a lot of exchanges
09:23 fridolin     kivilahtio: same for me ;)
09:21 kivilahtio   now I have a TON OF STUFF to do. I heard if it the out-of-office -effect
09:21 kivilahtio   was a lot of fun
09:21 kivilahtio   fridolin: I got my luggage. I had a lot of insteresting discussion with peop0le
09:16 fridolin     kivilahtio: hie, how was your trip back home ?
09:16 fridolin     ello
08:59 kivilahtio   ello
08:42 gaetan_B     hello
07:48 mveron       hi drojf :-)
07:48 huginn       drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 5.0°C (8:20 AM CET on March 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Rising).
07:48 drojf        @wunder berlin, germany
07:48 drojf        hi mveron
07:46 mveron       Bonjour alex_a
07:45 reiveune     salut mveron
07:44 alex_a       bonjour
07:44 mveron       hi reiveune :-)
07:38 reiveune     hello
07:32 mveron       hi magnuse :-)
07:31 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on March 10, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
07:31 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:31 magnuse      hiya mveron
07:20 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 0.0°C (8:00 AM CET on March 10, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising).
07:20 mveron       @wunder Allschwil
07:20 mveron       Hi #Koha
07:08 magnuse      :-)
07:04 kivilahtio   I'll ry to remember next time
07:04 kivilahtio   magnuse: but that might have been swedish
07:04 kivilahtio   magnuse: according to the top of my head
07:04 magnuse      in norwegian it would be "morgen"
07:03 magnuse      according to google translate, yes :-)
07:03 kivilahtio   god morgon?
07:02 magnuse      hyvää päivää kivilahtio
06:59 kivilahtio   morning
06:42 drojf        hei magnuse
06:41 magnuse      moin drojf and #koha!
06:41 drojf        morning #koha
05:57 dcook        til tomorrow
05:47 * eythian    &
05:47 * eythian    makes like a tree and gets outta here
05:47 eythian      it is the funnest.
05:42 dcook        O_O
05:42 dcook        Oh Java... you are so my favourite way to spend the last 20 minutes of the word day
05:33 eythian      heh
05:32 dcook        Just as I'm getting through my backlog... 5pm creeps up and more people email..
05:29 dcook        eythian++
05:29 dcook        \o/
05:13 eythian      yay, basic authority functions are now working.
05:03 eythian      tricksy
05:03 eythian      oh hey, so in the authority searching, the first page is page 0, followed by 1, etc. In biblio searching, the first page is page 1, followed by 2, etc.
04:44 eythian      though not in the most efficent way, need to sort something out in Catmandu I think.
04:43 eythian      http://elasticsearch.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-authorities-home.pl?op=do_search&type=opac&operator=contains&value=robert&marclist=any&and_or=and&orderby=HeadingAsc <-- yay, biblio counting works.
04:08 eythian      hi
04:08 Francesca    hey
03:10 eythian      apparently every authority has 14,401 biblios. That may not be quite right.
02:48 eythian      yeah, same ballpark as Apop
02:47 dcook        Reminds me a bit of Apoptygma Berzerk, although I guess they're Norwegian
02:47 dcook        Mmm maybe a bit
02:46 eythian      It's fairly different from Abba though
02:46 eythian      possibly :)
02:46 dcook        Might just be because they're Swedish though, hehe
02:45 dcook        It reminds me a bit of another group..
02:44 eythian      the whole album is good, but I think that's the best from it.
02:44 eythian      it is, yes
02:43 dcook        This is catchy, btw
02:43 dcook        Hmm, might have to take another look
02:43 eythian      otherwise pretty much the same
02:43 eythian      it's like adblock, but a bit lighter on resources.
02:43 dcook        What's uBlock?
02:43 dcook        I keep meaning to use adblock..
02:42 eythian      as does µBlock, which is what I'm actually using nowadays
02:42 eythian      you know that adblock plus blocks youtube ads, right?
02:41 dcook        hehe
02:41 eythian      that's not what I'm listening to :)
02:39 dcook        Turned out to be an ad
02:39 dcook        I clicked it but didn't look
02:39 dcook        Hehe
02:37 eythian      http://youtu.be/7eDkFlVSwnk <-- just what I'm listening to right now.
02:05 dcook        Oh, banks
01:58 mtj          ta :)
01:58 dcook        I'll message you ;)
01:57 mtj          curious, whats the bank?
01:56 dcook        Still. It's basically them stealing money :).
01:56 dcook        Fortunately, it's only a few dollars. I'd hate to think if it had been a greater sum.
01:56 mtj          wow, thats horrible :/
01:54 dcook        I suppose they want to make money one way or another
01:54 dcook        Apparently they can charge you money if you don't use your credit card often enough.
01:54 dcook        Ahh
01:53 dcook        Making up charges that don't actually exist. Tsk tsk...
01:53 dcook        Hmm, it looks like this bank has been naughty...
01:51 mtj          ..i had a Q for you about my BZ workflow
01:50 mtj          rangi, got a tic..?
01:50 mtj          hi folks
01:45 dcook        That helps :)
01:45 dcook        Ahhh
01:45 eythian      has development retreats in places like...
01:43 dcook        I didn't really understand either sentence :)
01:42 eythian      I don't know what you're questioning there
01:40 dcook        ?
01:36 eythian      then they jump on irc and say things like "hi, we're in Fiji. btw we're hiring" :)
01:35 eythian      a local company regularly does it to places like the islands.
01:34 dcook        A hackfest on the Greek Islands would be rather awesome
01:34 dcook        I could handle a trip to NZ one of these days...
01:31 papa         heh, I did not think about it that way
01:08 eythian      you were over here some months ago, weren't you?
01:06 papa         exactly. when was the last time catalyst sent me to an island/
01:05 eythian      papa: why?
01:04 papa         I am traditionally denied island trips :(
00:13 dcook        y/y? :D
00:12 wizzyrea     I could probably convince the family that a trip to a hackfest in oz would be a good thing to do.
00:05 BobB         looks like cait is on her way already
00:03 BobB         eythian +1
00:02 dcook        hehe
00:02 eythian      really.
00:02 eythian      not just so we get to spend a week in the islands.
00:02 eythian      you know, so they get a fair chance...
00:02 eythian      BobB: maybe it should rotate through the pacific islands too
00:02 dcook        :D
00:00 BobB         cait, you must come!  There, its settled!