Time  Nick          Message
23:59 huginn        dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 22.0°C (10:39 AM AEDT on March 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
23:59 dcook         @wunder syd
23:59 huginn        dcook: I've exhausted my database of quotes
23:59 dcook         @syd
23:57 wizzyrea      light rain. oh weather underground you are funny.
23:57 huginn        wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (12:30 PM NZDT on March 06, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Steady).
23:57 wizzyrea      @wunder nzwn
23:32 dcook         "Skydiving without a parachute is a once in a lifetime experience."
23:32 dcook         "Teen pregnancies drop significantly after age 19."
23:32 dcook         eythian might like these:
23:24 dcook         That would work too
23:24 dcook         Or win the lottery
23:24 dcook         He needs to inherit a fortune so that he can tour the world and not be so far away though :p
23:24 dcook         Seriously, oleonard is a champion
23:24 pianohacker   oleonard++
23:23 dcook         oleonard++
23:23 * dcook       really needs to check master more often...
23:22 huginn        dcook: Karma for "master" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
23:22 dcook         @karma master
23:22 huginn        dcook: I suck
23:22 dcook         @master
23:22 dcook         master++
23:22 dcook         Ahh... master already has it
23:20 dcook         Or whatever the equivalent is..
23:20 dcook         And since it's using checkauth() rather than the service auth... I'm just going to sneak in a little "type => 'intranet'" into that bad boy...
23:20 dcook         So I'm thinking it's an intranet only script...
23:19 dcook         Hmm mod_debarment.pl is only used in "koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/borrower_debarments.inc"
23:14 dcook         And mod_debarment.pl doesn't say it's in the intranet...
23:13 dcook         hmm
23:13 dcook         Interesting... checkauth() things you're in the opac unless you tell it you're not...
23:03 dcook         The amount of resources available on "tax shelters" is staggering
23:03 dcook         ... I may have also considered studying international tax law after working at a private law firm that had a sizeable tax department...
23:03 dcook         So I was annoyed by the tax folks taking all my student tax credits when it would have actually been fair if they took the foreign tax credits
23:02 dcook         And student tax credits are super valuable...
23:02 dcook         But... the tax agency took my student tax credits before the foreign tax credits...
23:02 dcook         That was considered taxable income in Canada, but because there's a tax treaty, I could claim foreign tax credits
23:01 dcook         While I was considered a Canadian resident, I made income in Australia and paid tax in Australia
23:01 dcook         Like...
23:01 dcook         Although it can be tricky for students
23:01 dcook         Same with Aus
22:58 pianohacker   ah, I guess that's something :/
22:58 wizzyrea      for NZ
22:58 wizzyrea      it's not terrible.
22:58 wizzyrea      there are agreements between certain nations
22:58 pianohacker   That is really rather spectacular. The foreign taxation stuff also can't be much fun for you or trea...
22:57 pianohacker   ah okay
22:57 wizzyrea      Yep, but not in 2012
22:56 pianohacker   weren't you in the US in 2008? ;)
22:55 wizzyrea      you guys elected them. :P
22:55 dcook         Yay for being poor!
22:55 pianohacker   still $2350 higher than it should be
22:55 dcook         Mmm Canada has the capital gains tax as well
22:55 wizzyrea      plus whatever you have that could be taxed as above.
22:55 wizzyrea      oh sorry, it's 2,350 up from 450
22:54 pianohacker   _wow_
22:54 wizzyrea      tax obligations.[27]
22:54 wizzyrea      remained a citizen: all property of a covered expatriate is deemed sold for its fair market value on the day before the expatriation date, which usually results in a capital gain, which is taxable income.[36] Eduardo Saverin, a Brazilian-born co-founder of Facebook, renounced his U.S. citizenship just before the company's expected initial public offering; the timing prompted media speculation that the act was motivated by potential U.S.
22:54 wizzyrea      In 2008, Congress enacted the Heroes Earnings Assistance and Relief Act that imposes a penalty—an "exit tax" or expatriation tax—on certain people who give up their U.S. citizenship or long-term permanent residence.[35] Effective June 2008, U.S. citizens who renounce their citizenship are subject under certain circumstances to an expatriation tax, which is meant to extract from the expatriate taxes that would have been paid had they
22:53 dcook         At least that's what I was told...
22:53 dcook         But misinformation is the best!
22:53 wizzyrea      it may not be that much. I don't want to spread misinformation - let me look it up
22:52 wizzyrea      haha
22:52 eythian       Early termination fee? :)
22:52 dcook         Wow...
22:52 pianohacker   that's asinine
22:52 pianohacker   what?!
22:52 eythian       wow what?
22:52 wizzyrea      now it's something like 13k
22:52 wizzyrea      and it used to be pretty cheap, $500, to renounce
22:51 wizzyrea      and then face a lifetime of being hassled at the border to the US
22:51 wizzyrea      yes, you would have to do that
22:51 pianohacker   jeez.
22:51 * dcook       thinks that's how that goes
22:50 pianohacker   that always threw me for a loop... would you have to renounce your citizenship or something to avoid that?
22:50 wizzyrea      s/residents/citizens/
22:50 dcook         hehe
22:49 wizzyrea      only two nation-states in the world tax the worldwide income of their residents. one is a fascist state run by lunatics, the other is eritrea.
22:47 dcook         I'm sure most if not all must be covered by foreign tax credits, but still...
22:47 dcook         They get taxed on world wide income in America even after they've emigrated
22:46 dcook         Actually, while on the topic, American emigrants have it the worst
22:46 dcook         So not the end of the world :)
22:46 dcook         And there's always another application
22:45 dcook         But worst comes to worst, I still come from a pretty rad country :)
22:45 pianohacker   yeah...
22:45 dcook         Immigration is hard :/
22:45 dcook         The uncertainty blows... and then start thinking about it from the perspective of people who aren't educated, don't have English as a first language, etc.
22:44 dcook         But anything is possible, right?
22:44 dcook         But it'll probably be accepted
22:44 dcook         As is, if it's declined, I'll have 30 days to do something
22:44 dcook         pianohacker: No doubt
22:44 dcook         eythian: that is a neat video
22:44 pianohacker   dcook: fingers crossed, then.
22:43 pianohacker   eythian: yeah, guess it does makes sense for that. Just had never heard of that
22:43 dcook         So if I leave the country and my application is declined, I'd have to leave immediately
22:43 dcook         Or it gets removed
22:43 dcook         But the other one, which you're given when y ou apply for PR, doesn't let you leave
22:43 eythian       that's pretty common
22:43 dcook         If my visa were declined, the visa I'm allowed to leave on would be removed I think
22:43 eythian       a lot of visas aren't reentrant, too
22:43 pianohacker   *blinks* ow
22:43 dcook         I'm allowed to leave on one, but not on the other
22:43 dcook         At the moment, I have two visas
22:43 pianohacker   ^ immigration law? naw
22:43 eythian       I guess.
22:43 eythian       I think it's a rule to ensure you're sticking it out, and not doing it for other reasons, or something like that.
22:42 dcook         It's complicated
22:42 * pianohacker wonders if the US is the same way
22:42 dcook         Nope
22:42 pianohacker   how does that work? And were you denied on your last application?
22:42 dcook         It's... weird
22:42 dcook         pianohacker: Not while my PR is being considered
22:42 pianohacker   wait, what? You can't leave the country if you're not a resident?
22:42 eythian       ah right
22:42 dcook         So hopefully I'll hear back between 1-4 months from now...
22:42 eythian       http://youtu.be/wDlUfvTtkF0 <-- neat music video
22:42 dcook         Oh well. I think the minimum waiting period will have elapsed in a month
22:41 eythian       yeah
22:41 dcook         But that's just... nope
22:41 dcook         I suppose I could if I spent a bunch of money on special temporary visas
22:41 eythian       bugger
22:41 dcook         eythian: Nopes :(
22:40 cait          hi pianohacker :)
22:40 pianohacker   hi cait
22:40 eythian       dcook: you can't even go to NZ?
22:39 eythian       yeah, that's good :)
22:39 pianohacker   but services in the new API are really pretty :)
22:39 eythian       heh
22:39 pianohacker   eythian: yeah... the old class was written by some numbnut who hated OOP, so backward compatibility isn't really an option
22:39 * dcook       hopes Australia makes him a permanent resident so that he can travel abroad again some day
22:39 dcook         pianohacker: :D
22:39 cait          heh soon
22:39 dcook         Yeah, necessary, but I feel those grumbles
22:39 cait          hi eythian
22:39 eythian       go to bed.
22:38 eythian       hi cait
22:38 pianohacker   dcook: next year, when I'm no longer in school
22:38 eythian       not the end of the world.
22:38 eythian       eh, necessary anyway
22:38 dcook         eythian: That would be frustrating :(
22:38 * eythian     grumbles about having to rewrite his stuff
22:38 dcook         pianohacker: You should've gone to France!
22:37 dcook         Yeah, I'd love a proper Koha::Service class
22:37 dcook         ^
22:37 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12272 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, NEW , Refactor C4::Service API into Koha::Service class
22:37 * pianohacker offers chocolate and the desperate pleas of a frazzled 22 year old to push bug 12272 so we can avoid such craziness in the future
22:36 pianohacker   O_o
22:35 dcook         hehe
22:35 eythian       ah referer. The most misspelt and unreliable of headers.
22:35 dcook         Well, except the HTTP_REFERER bit
22:35 dcook         I suppose I do have a script like that..
22:34 dcook         You throw some parameters at it, and then depending on the HTTP_REFERER, it will redirect to another page
22:34 dcook         It seems to do neither?
22:34 eythian       there's a few that do both
22:33 dcook         Half-way between a service and a regular script...
22:33 dcook         mod_debarment.pl is sure an interesting file...
22:26 dcook         :D
22:23 BobB          joubu ++
22:22 BobB          woot woot!
22:22 huginn        04Bug 11395: new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Batch modifications for records
22:22 BobB          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11395
22:17 rickx         I understand thank you very much for the info
22:17 eythian       haha
22:16 wnickc        takes me three tries every time
22:16 wahanui       mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
22:16 wnickc        mailing list?
22:16 wahanui       try 'mailing list', wnickc
22:16 wnickc        listserv?
22:15 wahanui       try 'listserv', wnickc
22:15 wnickc        lists?
22:15 wnickc        I don't knwo the answer off the top of my head, but would suggest trying the listserv whenever you can't find someone available in here
22:15 wnickc        I think a lot of people are at the heckfest in Marseille so no in the right time zone to help
22:14 rickx         Hi wnickc
22:14 wnickc        Hi rickx
22:10 rickx         ??
21:41 eythian       hi
21:41 rickx         ??
21:41 rickx         someone who can help me
21:29 rickx         I see that in the additem.tt file in the module cataloging staff, this is no problem because they show everything through a FOREACH item_loo IN item_loop
21:23 rickx         must be entered as code directly in the opac-detail.tt file?
21:18 rickx         could someone tell me how can I include a subfield of  the more_subfields_xml in the holding information OPAC
21:17 rickx         hi guys
19:44 wnickc        hah, this is not for checking in
19:44 wnickc        3VSPI025529875
17:18 cait          gone for beer
17:05 talljoy       joubu are you in?
16:45 talljoy       thanks!
16:45 talljoy       ok.  i may set up a test site for her to look a this.
16:44 jcamins       Most likely.
16:44 talljoy       so for a local subject heading it would work?
16:44 talljoy       right.
16:43 jcamins       (this isn't how LCSH works, for anyone who can't follow my stream-of-consciousness responses)
16:42 jcamins       It worked fine for what it was designed for, which was non-precoordinated headings where authority control was only on $a.
16:41 jcamins       I mean, not for LCSH.
16:41 jcamins       It wasn't really supposed to, either.
16:41 jcamins       It never worked at all.
16:41 talljoy       did the 'broader term' linker option ever get fixed?  i understood it did not work perfectly.
16:40 talljoy       thanks jcamins!
16:39 talljoy       ill pitch a development to her then.  see if she bites.
16:38 jcamins       I added that because adding hooks early is generally a good idea.
16:38 talljoy       i got a library keenly interested in that.
16:37 jcamins       Nope.
16:37 talljoy       is there an rfp or bz ticket for working other "Linker Options"?
16:37 talljoy       heh
16:37 jcamins       As much as I ever am.
16:36 talljoy       heh
16:36 drojf         :D
16:36 drojf         oops :/
16:36 talljoy       jcamins you in today?
16:35 talljoy       drojf: ssshhhhhhhh
16:27 drojf         pretty quiet today *whispers*
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15:58 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , There is no package for authorised values.
15:58 Joubu         It would be nice if someone from the QA team has a look at bug 10363. khall and me cannot do it...
15:44 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13635: Unimarc - On editing a notice, the title should be displayed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07e6ddc44af5ba6cdcccbcdac44bba223d891610>
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15:34 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11395: DBRev 3.19.00.013 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5daea4197e488a0e571f925205a5ae9f22754de4> / Bug 11395: A control field is a field with tag < 10 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99a4fd24700d8f569fd6db0519a9039cdc87222a> / Bug 11395: Raise an alert if control field is used <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1079f971e3bc
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15:17 dpavlin       Joubu++
15:16 Joubu         dpavlin: sorry, it works
15:00 dpavlin       sure! by now it's almost masohistic pleasure....
15:00 Joubu         dpavlin: Are you enjoying to fix unicode issues? :p
14:58 dpavlin       Joubu: please break it again (if you can ;-)
14:57 Joubu         dpavlin: of course, I will :)
14:56 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links
14:56 dpavlin       Joubu: is it too much to ask for another look at Bug 13789 ? ;-)
14:43 Joubu         fredericd: around?
14:36 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12488 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , bulkmarcimport.pl -d option should use DELETE instead of TRUNCATE
14:36 magnuse       bug 12488 needs some attention from someone who knows their mysql. it makes the -d switc on bulkmarcimport.pl unusable
14:36 francharb     khall, cool. I'll start from here.
14:34 khall         francharb: there is a tool for translating qt5 applications call Qt Linguist. The documentation for translating qt5 apps starts here: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/internationalization.html
14:33 francharb     khall, yes I want to!
14:33 khall         francharb: I don't believe so, but I'd be willing to help if you want to try!
14:30 Joubu         dpavlin: please don't hate me, I found another bug...
14:22 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: update for 3.20
14:22 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Revert "test"
14:22 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: test
14:22 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Revert "testing"
14:22 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #650: FIXED in 1 min 27 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/650/
14:22 wahanui       o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:22 jenkins_koha  Yippee, build fixed!
14:22 jenkins_koha  Starting build #650 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #642 2 hr 1 min ago)
14:16 francharb     khall, hi! Has anyone already translated your offline circulation tool in french?
14:15 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #649: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/649/
14:14 francharb     good morning all
14:10 alex_a        akafred, my email:  alex.arnaud@biblibre.com
14:00 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #648: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/648/
13:49 magnuse       thanks cait1 and academy students!
13:45 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #647: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/647/
13:42 cait1         yay academy students!
13:42 cait1         update your git-bz!
13:41 magnuse       is there anything that can be done, except reovme the offending char from the commit message?
13:41 bag           you got skillz magnuse
13:40 magnuse       git bz attach is giving me this: UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe2 in position 656: ordinal not in range(128)
13:40 dpavlin       bag++
13:38 bag           dpavlin: done
13:36 nengard       dpavlin, 13795
13:30 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #646: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/646/
13:19 nengard       All I did was add a space :) it can't be failing
13:19 nengard       :)
13:19 nengard       No it's not!!!
13:15 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #645: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/645/
13:10 nengard       dpavlin now you can sign off for me :)
13:00 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #644: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/644/
12:56 alex_a        thx
12:55 khall         alex_a: I'll take a look at that!
12:54 alex_a        khall: Rest API with Raisin (If you want to take a look): http://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commits/raisin_rest_api
12:48 meliss        morning nengard_
12:48 nengard_      morning meliss
12:46 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #643: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/643/
12:33 huginn        nengard_: The operation succeeded.
12:33 nengard_      @later tell bernardo I have created a 3.18 branch for the manual - can you email me the new links to the HTML files I can't find them in my emails
12:30 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12291 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , Replace the acronym HTML tag with abbr
12:30 magnuse_      the followup on bug 12291 is an easy signoff :-)
12:24 jenkins_koha  Nicole C. Engard: testing
12:24 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #642: SUCCESS in 3 min 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/642/
12:23 jenkins_koha  Starting build #642 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FIXED)
11:28 magnuse       nengard: ah, would you mind poking him about it?
11:15 nengard       :)
11:15 nengard       khall doesn't have sounds on his laptop so he never checks here
11:15 magnuse       nengard: as long as we get it right in the end... ;-)
11:12 nengard       magnuse it was probably a mistake ;)
11:08 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10937 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Signed Off , Option to hide and group itemtypes from advanced search
11:08 magnuse       khall: re: bug 10937. trello says "Kyle Hal moved this card from Needs QA to "Assigned / Failed QA", but the status on the actual patch is "Signed off"
10:31 magnuse       nice!
10:29 matts         Hey everyone ! Both CAS patches (12887 and 13507) are now signed-off and are waiting to be QA'ed ! Save the kittens ! :)
09:53 BibIN         might be $c
09:48 BibIN         or not :OP
09:48 BibIN         probably have to add field 999 $d to add bibnumber
09:47 BibIN         did find the rules
09:47 drojf         :)
09:47 BibIN         3.14.10.000
09:47 nengard       jinx :)
09:47 drojf         :D
09:47 nengard       or that ^^
09:47 drojf         ah good point. what nengard says
09:47 drojf         BibIN: what version of koha are you running?
09:47 nengard       BibIN, maybe you don't have permission to access the administration area?
09:42 BibIN         morning
09:41 tcohen        morning!
09:39 BibIN         Helo i dont find this (found it in documentation) Record matching rules are used when importing MARC records into Koha.  Get there: More > Administration > Catalog > Record Matching Rules
09:38 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12357 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Enhancements to RIS and BibTeX exporting
09:38 Joubu         khall: What about my comment on bug 12357?
09:14 Joubu         dpavlin: did you test with different versions of Encode?
09:13 Joubu         dpavlin: ok :)
09:10 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links
09:10 dpavlin       Joubu: I think that Bug 13789 is ready -- it also fixed sort by in interanet which was broken because of bad encoding, so I feel good about it :-)
09:08 BibIN         helo i watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U32yrPIkFo and it talks about the possibilety to add bib number as matching roles ... how can i do that ?
08:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12399 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Passed QA , opaccredits printing at top on printable version
08:43 bag           bug 12399
08:21 matts         hi !
07:38 marcelr       hi drojf
07:38 drojf         hi marcelr
07:37 marcelr       hi #koha
07:00 drojf         heh
06:58 cait1         tcohen brought a lot of yerba
06:58 cait1         it's spreading fast
06:58 cait1         they are all drinking it now here
06:55 drojf         mate? :D
06:55 cait1         drojf: ew
06:55 cait1         eythian++
06:48 drojf         coffee? :)
06:48 cait1         not totally awake yet
06:48 cait1         hi drojf
06:45 drojf         hi cait
06:45 drojf         see you dcook
06:44 dcook         later cait and drojf :)
06:44 dcook         Anywho, home time!
06:44 dcook         Wanted to work on that for a whiel now...
06:44 dcook         I think I'll just have ot fix that local mod... (which is an Athens authentication thing)
06:44 dcook         It's not coming from moremember though... so it's getting redirected undesirably
06:43 dcook         if ( $ENV{HTTP_REFERER} =~ /moremember/ ) {
06:43 dcook         Hmm, I see
06:41 dcook         And the other problem is definitely local... and Auth.pm related (of course)
06:41 cait          hi dcook
06:41 dcook         yo cait
06:41 dcook         Should drop before doing a restore anyway..
06:41 dcook         I think it tried to drop something which shouldn't be dropped until after another table is dropped or some such
06:41 dcook         Actually, yeah...
06:40 dcook         I think it was foreign key related in some way
06:40 dcook         I imagine there was something that wasn't being dropped properly so when it went to do the restore it ran into a conflict of some kind
06:39 dcook         I often use the GUI tools for doing backups/restores
06:39 dcook         Not 100% on the MySQL one
06:39 drojf         so what was the problem?
06:38 drojf         :)
06:36 dcook         Yay one down!
06:36 dcook         Hmm... think I have an idea now..
06:33 dcook         The permissions in MySQL look OK... so not sure why it's not working..
06:30 dcook         Yeah, damned teamwork! :p
06:30 drojf         teamwork will do that :D
06:30 dcook         I wanted that to be the problem now, but I don't know..
06:30 dcook         Like permissions accidentally being revoked and such
06:30 dcook         Well just unexpected configurations
06:30 dcook         Which means sometimes I find things in a bit of...
06:30 dcook         I'm not the only one who manages the systems
06:29 dcook         hehe
06:29 drojf         you should :P
06:29 dcook         You never know..
06:29 dcook         hehe
06:28 drojf         why? local changes? *hides*
06:28 dcook         Not sure whether that's a mysql permissions thing or a data thing or what..
06:28 dcook         Having issues restoring a 3.14 database...
06:28 drojf         too fast
06:28 * dcook       still isn't gone yet though :p
06:28 drojf         see you mto
06:28 dcook         laterz
06:28 mtompset      Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone. #koha dcook drojf. :)
06:28 dcook         I think we have dinner guests tomorrow, so need to whip the house into shape
06:28 drojf         :)
06:27 dcook         Errands and chores to do :p
06:27 dcook         hehe
06:27 drojf         it's only 5:26pm, lots of time ^^
06:27 dcook         mod*
06:27 dcook         I'm also not sure it's actually implemented 100% correctly, but I wasn't in charge of that momd...
06:27 mtompset      Okay. Well, I beat 1985 into submission, it's 1:26AM and I should have been in bed 1.5 hours ago. :P
06:27 dcook         drojf: Haha. It requires a lot of changes before it would be community worthy
06:27 dcook         But it's 5:26pm and I should've left approximately 26 minutes ago
06:27 drojf         we all want that local change now :P
06:26 dcook         Could certainly be wrong
06:26 dcook         Ergo, fairly certain. But, I'll let you know :p
06:26 dcook         Oh, I'm fairly sure. Admittedly, I need to investigate it more, but it's for a client with a particular local change. Everyone else seems fine who doesn't have that local change.
06:25 mtompset      how do you know it isn't non-local? :P
06:24 drojf         hi mtompset
06:24 dcook         No concern of yours :). It's a local issue.
06:24 mtompset      ^you^dcook^
06:23 mtompset      by the way, before I leave. Why did you say you were going after moremember.pl? :)
06:23 mtompset      Greetings, drojf.
06:19 drojf         hi dcook
06:19 dcook         hey drojf
06:18 drojf         morning #koha
06:17 dcook         It's true... #koha does drive me nuts sometimes :p
06:12 mtompset      dcook: keeps you sane? Dude, you're already nuts. :P
05:43 dcook         moremember.pl... I'm coming for ya..
05:43 eythian       bye
05:43 dcook         laters Francesca
05:43 dcook         I swear it keeps me sane sometimes
05:43 Francesca     see ya later eythian, dcook, #koha
05:43 dcook         It is more fun staying and chatting here :)
05:42 eythian       Francesca: enjoy :D
05:42 Francesca     But its much more fun staying and chatting here
05:42 Francesca     I shall leave you incredibly busy people to it....I'm supposed to be working on a uni assignment
05:41 dcook         I don't know how I'm not blind
05:41 dcook         I've only ever tried the home-made stuff I think
05:41 eythian       but I've only tried it once
05:41 dcook         Me either
05:41 eythian       never enjoyed grappa
05:38 dcook         I read it as "Koha Grappa Italiano", so I think of alcohol
05:37 eythian       "Koha Gruppo Italiano" always sounds like the title of a song to me.
05:36 dcook         It's due to a local mod though so I'll just have to stumble about on my own
05:36 dcook         I'd love to know why trying to remove a restriction is causing all sorts of chaos in my 3.14...
05:36 dcook         Nor do you want to
05:35 eythian       I don't really know what applied kinesiology does
05:35 dcook         ;)
05:35 dcook         Probably around a previous full moon
05:35 dcook         I feel like we've talked about this before..
05:35 dcook         Since "kinesiology" is actually biology and physics?
05:34 dcook         Or rather, "applied kinesiology"?
05:34 dcook         Did you know that kinesiology is crazy?
05:34 eythian       that's how homeopathy started, dcook.
05:34 dcook         Nah, it's been a rather busy time for a while now
05:34 dcook         :p
05:34 dcook         Well, there have been several full moons...
05:34 eythian       though, in our case, we've been busy since the start of the year.
05:34 dcook         So tonight should be the worst?
05:34 dcook         I think it's a full moon tonight
05:34 eythian       I should fix that.
05:34 * dcook       should start tracking support calls against full moons
05:34 eythian       hmm, my watch doesn't have phase of the moon on it.
05:33 dcook         Seems to be a thing
05:33 dcook         Full moon... just saying
05:32 eythian       he's been here, but we're super flat out
05:30 dcook         Haven't seen rangi around heaps lately... mind you I've been super busy lately myself..
05:28 eythian       Francesca: he went home a while back, so it's possible but unlikely.
05:22 Francesca     rangi are you around?
04:46 mtompset      Did I say 1985 was in order before? I went on a coding spree with it. It's really in order now. Wheeeeeee! :)
04:19 wahanui       hey, eythian
04:19 eythian       hi
03:33 Francesca     hi #koha
03:33 * Francesca   waves
02:53 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1985 enhancement, P3, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Email notification of new OPAC comments
02:53 mtompset      Okay. bug 1985 is back in order. :)
02:21 dcook         Only if there are config differences in the files, me thinks
02:21 eythian       I'm not surprised, I don't expect that zebra sees biblios and authorities as particularly different things
02:21 dcook         More emails to go so no time to look into it too much
02:21 * dcook       is happy enough just not using -x
02:21 dcook         At a glance
02:20 dcook         At least, that's how it seems to me
02:20 dcook         As for authorities, it's a Koha thing rather than a Zebra thing with the authorities :p
02:20 dcook         Blue skies
02:20 dcook         Nopes
02:20 eythian       not raining there?
02:20 dcook         That's different
02:20 dcook         Whoa
02:19 huginn        dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (1:11 PM AEDT on March 05, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
02:19 dcook         @wunder syd
02:15 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 24.0°C (3:00 PM NZDT on March 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
02:15 eythian       @wunder nzwn
01:42 eythian       no, I don't particularly care about that at the moment.
01:42 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC)
01:42 wahanui       bug 6874 is epic
01:42 eythian       bug 6874
01:42 mtompset      :)
01:42 mtompset      whispers bug6874 (856$u)
01:41 eythian       turns out it's most likely the former.
01:41 eythian       because I was wanting to know if $CLIENT was using it wrong or if I was going crazy
01:41 mtompset      (regarding comments for OPAC)_
01:41 mtompset      Thanks for the answer, eythian. :)
01:40 mtompset      856? Why is someone looking at 856? :)
01:23 huginn        eythian: [a,b,c,d,f,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z,2,3,6,8]
01:23 eythian       @more
01:23 huginn        eythian: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message)
01:23 eythian       @marc 856
01:23 eythian       you're the zebra expert.
01:23 eythian       dunno.
01:21 dcook         Oh well. DOesn't matter atm
01:19 dcook         Or us limitation?
01:19 dcook         Zebra limitation?
01:19 dcook         I wonder why it can't handle it...
01:19 eythian       I think the debian script stuff actively removes the -x for authorities
01:18 dcook         As it won't work
01:18 dcook         It looks like you can but you shouldn't :S
01:18 eythian       you can't do -a -x iirc
01:18 dcook         Well, it is old.
01:17 dcook         This is a non-Debian 3.8 though... so maybe it's just old
01:17 dcook         Hmm can rebuild_zebra.pl not handle -a -x -r?
01:17 eythian       yes, it will need that
01:16 dcook         Hmm needed a Zebra restart as well it seems
01:15 dcook         hmm something else appears to be up as well..
01:15 eythian       OPAC comments? If so, yes.
01:11 mtompset      comments are only at the biblio level?
01:07 dcook         Nasty that
01:07 eythian       ah yep
01:07 dcook         Ran into that "dom./home/robin/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config-marc.xml" thing again
01:07 dcook         For http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Zebra
01:06 dcook         eythian++
01:04 mtompset      blip it is. :)
01:03 eythian       graviton fell over
01:03 mtompset      Was that a blip or a kick?
00:52 mtompset      That was a strange don't drink and drive commercial.
00:14 dcook         ^so much
00:13 huginn        dcook: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
00:13 wahanui       http://xkcd.com/1172/
00:13 dcook         @quote get 123