Time  Nick          Message
00:13 dcook         @quote get 123
00:13 wahanui       http://xkcd.com/1172/
00:13 huginn        dcook: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
00:14 dcook         ^so much
00:52 mtompset      That was a strange don't drink and drive commercial.
01:03 mtompset      Was that a blip or a kick?
01:03 eythian       graviton fell over
01:04 mtompset      blip it is. :)
01:06 dcook         eythian++
01:07 dcook         For http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Zebra
01:07 dcook         Ran into that "dom./home/robin/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config-marc.xml" thing again
01:07 eythian       ah yep
01:07 dcook         Nasty that
01:11 mtompset      comments are only at the biblio level?
01:15 eythian       OPAC comments? If so, yes.
01:15 dcook         hmm something else appears to be up as well..
01:16 dcook         Hmm needed a Zebra restart as well it seems
01:17 eythian       yes, it will need that
01:17 dcook         Hmm can rebuild_zebra.pl not handle -a -x -r?
01:17 dcook         This is a non-Debian 3.8 though... so maybe it's just old
01:18 dcook         Well, it is old.
01:18 eythian       you can't do -a -x iirc
01:18 dcook         It looks like you can but you shouldn't :S
01:18 dcook         As it won't work
01:19 eythian       I think the debian script stuff actively removes the -x for authorities
01:19 dcook         I wonder why it can't handle it...
01:19 dcook         Zebra limitation?
01:19 dcook         Or us limitation?
01:21 dcook         Oh well. DOesn't matter atm
01:23 eythian       dunno.
01:23 eythian       you're the zebra expert.
01:23 eythian       @marc 856
01:23 huginn        eythian: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message)
01:23 eythian       @more
01:23 huginn        eythian: [a,b,c,d,f,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z,2,3,6,8]
01:40 mtompset      856? Why is someone looking at 856? :)
01:41 mtompset      Thanks for the answer, eythian. :)
01:41 mtompset      (regarding comments for OPAC)_
01:41 eythian       because I was wanting to know if $CLIENT was using it wrong or if I was going crazy
01:41 eythian       turns out it's most likely the former.
01:42 mtompset      whispers bug6874 (856$u)
01:42 mtompset      :)
01:42 eythian       bug 6874
01:42 wahanui       bug 6874 is epic
01:42 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Attach a file to a MARC record (Was: File upload in MARC)
01:42 eythian       no, I don't particularly care about that at the moment.
02:15 eythian       @wunder nzwn
02:15 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 24.0°C (3:00 PM NZDT on March 05, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
02:19 dcook         @wunder syd
02:19 huginn        dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (1:11 PM AEDT on March 05, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
02:20 dcook         Whoa
02:20 dcook         That's different
02:20 eythian       not raining there?
02:20 dcook         Nopes
02:20 dcook         Blue skies
02:20 dcook         As for authorities, it's a Koha thing rather than a Zebra thing with the authorities :p
02:20 dcook         At least, that's how it seems to me
02:21 dcook         At a glance
02:21 * dcook       is happy enough just not using -x
02:21 dcook         More emails to go so no time to look into it too much
02:21 eythian       I'm not surprised, I don't expect that zebra sees biblios and authorities as particularly different things
02:21 dcook         Only if there are config differences in the files, me thinks
02:53 mtompset      Okay. bug 1985 is back in order. :)
02:53 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1985 enhancement, P3, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Email notification of new OPAC comments
03:33 * Francesca   waves
03:33 Francesca     hi #koha
04:19 eythian       hi
04:19 wahanui       hey, eythian
04:46 mtompset      Did I say 1985 was in order before? I went on a coding spree with it. It's really in order now. Wheeeeeee! :)
05:22 Francesca     rangi are you around?
05:28 eythian       Francesca: he went home a while back, so it's possible but unlikely.
05:30 dcook         Haven't seen rangi around heaps lately... mind you I've been super busy lately myself..
05:32 eythian       he's been here, but we're super flat out
05:33 dcook         Full moon... just saying
05:33 dcook         Seems to be a thing
05:34 eythian       hmm, my watch doesn't have phase of the moon on it.
05:34 * dcook       should start tracking support calls against full moons
05:34 eythian       I should fix that.
05:34 dcook         I think it's a full moon tonight
05:34 dcook         So tonight should be the worst?
05:34 eythian       though, in our case, we've been busy since the start of the year.
05:34 dcook         Well, there have been several full moons...
05:34 dcook         :p
05:34 dcook         Nah, it's been a rather busy time for a while now
05:34 eythian       that's how homeopathy started, dcook.
05:34 dcook         Did you know that kinesiology is crazy?
05:34 dcook         Or rather, "applied kinesiology"?
05:35 dcook         Since "kinesiology" is actually biology and physics?
05:35 dcook         I feel like we've talked about this before..
05:35 dcook         Probably around a previous full moon
05:35 dcook         ;)
05:35 eythian       I don't really know what applied kinesiology does
05:36 dcook         Nor do you want to
05:36 dcook         I'd love to know why trying to remove a restriction is causing all sorts of chaos in my 3.14...
05:36 dcook         It's due to a local mod though so I'll just have to stumble about on my own
05:37 eythian       "Koha Gruppo Italiano" always sounds like the title of a song to me.
05:38 dcook         I read it as "Koha Grappa Italiano", so I think of alcohol
05:41 eythian       never enjoyed grappa
05:41 dcook         Me either
05:41 eythian       but I've only tried it once
05:41 dcook         I've only ever tried the home-made stuff I think
05:41 dcook         I don't know how I'm not blind
05:42 Francesca     I shall leave you incredibly busy people to it....I'm supposed to be working on a uni assignment
05:42 Francesca     But its much more fun staying and chatting here
05:42 eythian       Francesca: enjoy :D
05:43 dcook         It is more fun staying and chatting here :)
05:43 Francesca     see ya later eythian, dcook, #koha
05:43 dcook         I swear it keeps me sane sometimes
05:43 dcook         laters Francesca
05:43 eythian       bye
05:43 dcook         moremember.pl... I'm coming for ya..
06:12 mtompset      dcook: keeps you sane? Dude, you're already nuts. :P
06:17 dcook         It's true... #koha does drive me nuts sometimes :p
06:18 drojf         morning #koha
06:19 dcook         hey drojf
06:19 drojf         hi dcook
06:23 mtompset      Greetings, drojf.
06:23 mtompset      by the way, before I leave. Why did you say you were going after moremember.pl? :)
06:24 mtompset      ^you^dcook^
06:24 dcook         No concern of yours :). It's a local issue.
06:24 drojf         hi mtompset
06:25 mtompset      how do you know it isn't non-local? :P
06:26 dcook         Oh, I'm fairly sure. Admittedly, I need to investigate it more, but it's for a client with a particular local change. Everyone else seems fine who doesn't have that local change.
06:26 dcook         Ergo, fairly certain. But, I'll let you know :p
06:26 dcook         Could certainly be wrong
06:27 drojf         we all want that local change now :P
06:27 dcook         But it's 5:26pm and I should've left approximately 26 minutes ago
06:27 dcook         drojf: Haha. It requires a lot of changes before it would be community worthy
06:27 mtompset      Okay. Well, I beat 1985 into submission, it's 1:26AM and I should have been in bed 1.5 hours ago. :P
06:27 dcook         I'm also not sure it's actually implemented 100% correctly, but I wasn't in charge of that momd...
06:27 dcook         mod*
06:27 drojf         it's only 5:26pm, lots of time ^^
06:27 dcook         hehe
06:27 dcook         Errands and chores to do :p
06:28 drojf         :)
06:28 dcook         I think we have dinner guests tomorrow, so need to whip the house into shape
06:28 mtompset      Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone. #koha dcook drojf. :)
06:28 dcook         laterz
06:28 drojf         see you mto
06:28 * dcook       still isn't gone yet though :p
06:28 drojf         too fast
06:28 dcook         Having issues restoring a 3.14 database...
06:28 dcook         Not sure whether that's a mysql permissions thing or a data thing or what..
06:28 drojf         why? local changes? *hides*
06:29 dcook         hehe
06:29 dcook         You never know..
06:29 drojf         you should :P
06:29 dcook         hehe
06:30 dcook         I'm not the only one who manages the systems
06:30 dcook         Which means sometimes I find things in a bit of...
06:30 dcook         Well just unexpected configurations
06:30 dcook         Like permissions accidentally being revoked and such
06:30 dcook         I wanted that to be the problem now, but I don't know..
06:30 drojf         teamwork will do that :D
06:30 dcook         Yeah, damned teamwork! :p
06:33 dcook         The permissions in MySQL look OK... so not sure why it's not working..
06:36 dcook         Hmm... think I have an idea now..
06:36 dcook         Yay one down!
06:38 drojf         :)
06:39 drojf         so what was the problem?
06:39 dcook         Not 100% on the MySQL one
06:39 dcook         I often use the GUI tools for doing backups/restores
06:40 dcook         I imagine there was something that wasn't being dropped properly so when it went to do the restore it ran into a conflict of some kind
06:40 dcook         I think it was foreign key related in some way
06:41 dcook         Actually, yeah...
06:41 dcook         I think it tried to drop something which shouldn't be dropped until after another table is dropped or some such
06:41 dcook         Should drop before doing a restore anyway..
06:41 dcook         yo cait
06:41 cait          hi dcook
06:41 dcook         And the other problem is definitely local... and Auth.pm related (of course)
06:43 dcook         Hmm, I see
06:43 dcook         if ( $ENV{HTTP_REFERER} =~ /moremember/ ) {
06:44 dcook         It's not coming from moremember though... so it's getting redirected undesirably
06:44 dcook         I think I'll just have ot fix that local mod... (which is an Athens authentication thing)
06:44 dcook         Wanted to work on that for a whiel now...
06:44 dcook         Anywho, home time!
06:44 dcook         later cait and drojf :)
06:45 drojf         see you dcook
06:45 drojf         hi cait
06:48 cait1         hi drojf
06:48 cait1         not totally awake yet
06:48 drojf         coffee? :)
06:55 cait1         eythian++
06:55 cait1         drojf: ew
06:55 drojf         mate? :D
06:58 cait1         they are all drinking it now here
06:58 cait1         it's spreading fast
06:58 cait1         tcohen brought a lot of yerba
07:00 drojf         heh
07:37 marcelr       hi #koha
07:38 drojf         hi marcelr
07:38 marcelr       hi drojf
08:21 matts         hi !
08:43 bag           bug 12399
08:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12399 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Passed QA , opaccredits printing at top on printable version
09:08 BibIN         helo i watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U32yrPIkFo and it talks about the possibilety to add bib number as matching roles ... how can i do that ?
09:10 dpavlin       Joubu: I think that Bug 13789 is ready -- it also fixed sort by in interanet which was broken because of bad encoding, so I feel good about it :-)
09:10 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links
09:13 Joubu         dpavlin: ok :)
09:14 Joubu         dpavlin: did you test with different versions of Encode?
09:38 Joubu         khall: What about my comment on bug 12357?
09:38 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12357 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Enhancements to RIS and BibTeX exporting
09:39 BibIN         Helo i dont find this (found it in documentation) Record matching rules are used when importing MARC records into Koha.  Get there: More > Administration > Catalog > Record Matching Rules
09:41 tcohen        morning!
09:42 BibIN         morning
09:47 nengard       BibIN, maybe you don't have permission to access the administration area?
09:47 drojf         BibIN: what version of koha are you running?
09:47 drojf         ah good point. what nengard says
09:47 nengard       or that ^^
09:47 drojf         :D
09:47 nengard       jinx :)
09:47 BibIN         3.14.10.000
09:47 drojf         :)
09:47 BibIN         did find the rules
09:48 BibIN         probably have to add field 999 $d to add bibnumber
09:48 BibIN         or not :OP
09:53 BibIN         might be $c
10:29 matts         Hey everyone ! Both CAS patches (12887 and 13507) are now signed-off and are waiting to be QA'ed ! Save the kittens ! :)
10:31 magnuse       nice!
11:08 magnuse       khall: re: bug 10937. trello says "Kyle Hal moved this card from Needs QA to "Assigned / Failed QA", but the status on the actual patch is "Signed off"
11:08 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10937 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maxime.beaulieu, Signed Off , Option to hide and group itemtypes from advanced search
11:12 nengard       magnuse it was probably a mistake ;)
11:15 magnuse       nengard: as long as we get it right in the end... ;-)
11:15 nengard       khall doesn't have sounds on his laptop so he never checks here
11:15 nengard       :)
11:28 magnuse       nengard: ah, would you mind poking him about it?
12:23 jenkins_koha  Starting build #642 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FIXED)
12:24 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #642: SUCCESS in 3 min 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/642/
12:24 jenkins_koha  Nicole C. Engard: testing
12:30 magnuse_      the followup on bug 12291 is an easy signoff :-)
12:30 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12291 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , Replace the acronym HTML tag with abbr
12:33 nengard_      @later tell bernardo I have created a 3.18 branch for the manual - can you email me the new links to the HTML files I can't find them in my emails
12:33 huginn        nengard_: The operation succeeded.
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12:48 nengard_      morning meliss
12:48 meliss        morning nengard_
12:54 alex_a        khall: Rest API with Raisin (If you want to take a look): http://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/kohac/commits/raisin_rest_api
12:55 khall         alex_a: I'll take a look at that!
12:56 alex_a        thx
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13:10 nengard       dpavlin now you can sign off for me :)
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13:19 nengard       No it's not!!!
13:19 nengard       :)
13:19 nengard       All I did was add a space :) it can't be failing
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13:36 nengard       dpavlin, 13795
13:38 bag           dpavlin: done
13:40 dpavlin       bag++
13:40 magnuse       git bz attach is giving me this: UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe2 in position 656: ordinal not in range(128)
13:41 bag           you got skillz magnuse
13:41 magnuse       is there anything that can be done, except reovme the offending char from the commit message?
13:42 cait1         update your git-bz!
13:42 cait1         yay academy students!
13:45 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #647: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/647/
13:49 magnuse       thanks cait1 and academy students!
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14:10 alex_a        akafred, my email:  alex.arnaud@biblibre.com
14:14 francharb     good morning all
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14:16 francharb     khall, hi! Has anyone already translated your offline circulation tool in french?
14:22 jenkins_koha  Starting build #650 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #642 2 hr 1 min ago)
14:22 jenkins_koha  Yippee, build fixed!
14:22 wahanui       o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:22 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_Docs build #650: FIXED in 1 min 27 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/650/
14:22 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Revert "testing"
14:22 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: test
14:22 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Revert "test"
14:22 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: update for 3.20
14:30 Joubu         dpavlin: please don't hate me, I found another bug...
14:33 khall         francharb: I don't believe so, but I'd be willing to help if you want to try!
14:33 francharb     khall, yes I want to!
14:34 khall         francharb: there is a tool for translating qt5 applications call Qt Linguist. The documentation for translating qt5 apps starts here: http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/internationalization.html
14:36 francharb     khall, cool. I'll start from here.
14:36 magnuse       bug 12488 needs some attention from someone who knows their mysql. it makes the -d switc on bulkmarcimport.pl unusable
14:36 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12488 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , bulkmarcimport.pl -d option should use DELETE instead of TRUNCATE
14:43 Joubu         fredericd: around?
14:56 dpavlin       Joubu: is it too much to ask for another look at Bug 13789 ? ;-)
14:56 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , facets with accented utf-8 characters generate double encoded links
14:57 Joubu         dpavlin: of course, I will :)
14:58 dpavlin       Joubu: please break it again (if you can ;-)
15:00 Joubu         dpavlin: Are you enjoying to fix unicode issues? :p
15:00 dpavlin       sure! by now it's almost masohistic pleasure....
15:16 Joubu         dpavlin: sorry, it works
15:17 dpavlin       Joubu++
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15:34 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11395: DBRev 3.19.00.013 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5daea4197e488a0e571f925205a5ae9f22754de4> / Bug 11395: A control field is a field with tag < 10 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99a4fd24700d8f569fd6db0519a9039cdc87222a> / Bug 11395: Raise an alert if control field is used <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1079f971e3bc
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15:44 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13635: Unimarc - On editing a notice, the title should be displayed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07e6ddc44af5ba6cdcccbcdac44bba223d891610>
15:58 Joubu         It would be nice if someone from the QA team has a look at bug 10363. khall and me cannot do it...
15:58 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10363 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , There is no package for authorised values.
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16:27 drojf         pretty quiet today *whispers*
16:35 talljoy       drojf: ssshhhhhhhh
16:36 talljoy       jcamins you in today?
16:36 drojf         oops :/
16:36 drojf         :D
16:36 talljoy       heh
16:37 jcamins       As much as I ever am.
16:37 talljoy       heh
16:37 talljoy       is there an rfp or bz ticket for working other "Linker Options"?
16:37 jcamins       Nope.
16:38 talljoy       i got a library keenly interested in that.
16:38 jcamins       I added that because adding hooks early is generally a good idea.
16:39 talljoy       ill pitch a development to her then.  see if she bites.
16:40 talljoy       thanks jcamins!
16:41 talljoy       did the 'broader term' linker option ever get fixed?  i understood it did not work perfectly.
16:41 jcamins       It never worked at all.
16:41 jcamins       It wasn't really supposed to, either.
16:41 jcamins       I mean, not for LCSH.
16:42 jcamins       It worked fine for what it was designed for, which was non-precoordinated headings where authority control was only on $a.
16:43 jcamins       (this isn't how LCSH works, for anyone who can't follow my stream-of-consciousness responses)
16:44 talljoy       right.
16:44 talljoy       so for a local subject heading it would work?
16:44 jcamins       Most likely.
16:45 talljoy       ok.  i may set up a test site for her to look a this.
16:45 talljoy       thanks!
17:05 talljoy       joubu are you in?
17:18 cait          gone for beer
19:44 wnickc        3VSPI025529875
19:44 wnickc        hah, this is not for checking in
21:17 rickx         hi guys
21:18 rickx         could someone tell me how can I include a subfield of  the more_subfields_xml in the holding information OPAC
21:23 rickx         must be entered as code directly in the opac-detail.tt file?
21:29 rickx         I see that in the additem.tt file in the module cataloging staff, this is no problem because they show everything through a FOREACH item_loo IN item_loop
21:41 rickx         someone who can help me
21:41 rickx         ??
21:41 eythian       hi
22:10 rickx         ??
22:14 wnickc        Hi rickx
22:14 rickx         Hi wnickc
22:15 wnickc        I think a lot of people are at the heckfest in Marseille so no in the right time zone to help
22:15 wnickc        I don't knwo the answer off the top of my head, but would suggest trying the listserv whenever you can't find someone available in here
22:15 wnickc        lists?
22:15 wahanui       try 'listserv', wnickc
22:16 wnickc        listserv?
22:16 wahanui       try 'mailing list', wnickc
22:16 wnickc        mailing list?
22:16 wahanui       mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
22:16 wnickc        takes me three tries every time
22:17 eythian       haha
22:17 rickx         I understand thank you very much for the info
22:22 BobB          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11395
22:22 huginn        04Bug 11395: new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Batch modifications for records
22:22 BobB          woot woot!
22:23 BobB          joubu ++
22:26 dcook         :D
22:33 dcook         mod_debarment.pl is sure an interesting file...
22:33 dcook         Half-way between a service and a regular script...
22:34 eythian       there's a few that do both
22:34 dcook         It seems to do neither?
22:34 dcook         You throw some parameters at it, and then depending on the HTTP_REFERER, it will redirect to another page
22:35 dcook         I suppose I do have a script like that..
22:35 dcook         Well, except the HTTP_REFERER bit
22:35 eythian       ah referer. The most misspelt and unreliable of headers.
22:35 dcook         hehe
22:36 pianohacker   O_o
22:37 * pianohacker offers chocolate and the desperate pleas of a frazzled 22 year old to push bug 12272 so we can avoid such craziness in the future
22:37 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12272 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, NEW , Refactor C4::Service API into Koha::Service class
22:37 dcook         ^
22:37 dcook         Yeah, I'd love a proper Koha::Service class
22:38 dcook         pianohacker: You should've gone to France!
22:38 * eythian     grumbles about having to rewrite his stuff
22:38 dcook         eythian: That would be frustrating :(
22:38 eythian       eh, necessary anyway
22:38 eythian       not the end of the world.
22:38 pianohacker   dcook: next year, when I'm no longer in school
22:38 eythian       hi cait
22:39 eythian       go to bed.
22:39 cait          hi eythian
22:39 dcook         Yeah, necessary, but I feel those grumbles
22:39 cait          heh soon
22:39 dcook         pianohacker: :D
22:39 * dcook       hopes Australia makes him a permanent resident so that he can travel abroad again some day
22:39 pianohacker   eythian: yeah... the old class was written by some numbnut who hated OOP, so backward compatibility isn't really an option
22:39 eythian       heh
22:39 pianohacker   but services in the new API are really pretty :)
22:39 eythian       yeah, that's good :)
22:40 eythian       dcook: you can't even go to NZ?
22:40 pianohacker   hi cait
22:40 cait          hi pianohacker :)
22:41 dcook         eythian: Nopes :(
22:41 eythian       bugger
22:41 dcook         I suppose I could if I spent a bunch of money on special temporary visas
22:41 dcook         But that's just... nope
22:41 eythian       yeah
22:42 dcook         Oh well. I think the minimum waiting period will have elapsed in a month
22:42 eythian       http://youtu.be/wDlUfvTtkF0 <-- neat music video
22:42 dcook         So hopefully I'll hear back between 1-4 months from now...
22:42 eythian       ah right
22:42 pianohacker   wait, what? You can't leave the country if you're not a resident?
22:42 dcook         pianohacker: Not while my PR is being considered
22:42 dcook         It's... weird
22:42 pianohacker   how does that work? And were you denied on your last application?
22:42 dcook         Nope
22:42 * pianohacker wonders if the US is the same way
22:42 dcook         It's complicated
22:43 eythian       I think it's a rule to ensure you're sticking it out, and not doing it for other reasons, or something like that.
22:43 eythian       I guess.
22:43 pianohacker   ^ immigration law? naw
22:43 dcook         At the moment, I have two visas
22:43 dcook         I'm allowed to leave on one, but not on the other
22:43 pianohacker   *blinks* ow
22:43 eythian       a lot of visas aren't reentrant, too
22:43 dcook         If my visa were declined, the visa I'm allowed to leave on would be removed I think
22:43 eythian       that's pretty common
22:43 dcook         But the other one, which you're given when y ou apply for PR, doesn't let you leave
22:43 dcook         Or it gets removed
22:43 dcook         So if I leave the country and my application is declined, I'd have to leave immediately
22:43 pianohacker   eythian: yeah, guess it does makes sense for that. Just had never heard of that
22:44 pianohacker   dcook: fingers crossed, then.
22:44 dcook         eythian: that is a neat video
22:44 dcook         pianohacker: No doubt
22:44 dcook         As is, if it's declined, I'll have 30 days to do something
22:44 dcook         But it'll probably be accepted
22:44 dcook         But anything is possible, right?
22:45 dcook         The uncertainty blows... and then start thinking about it from the perspective of people who aren't educated, don't have English as a first language, etc.
22:45 dcook         Immigration is hard :/
22:45 pianohacker   yeah...
22:45 dcook         But worst comes to worst, I still come from a pretty rad country :)
22:46 dcook         And there's always another application
22:46 dcook         So not the end of the world :)
22:46 dcook         Actually, while on the topic, American emigrants have it the worst
22:47 dcook         They get taxed on world wide income in America even after they've emigrated
22:47 dcook         I'm sure most if not all must be covered by foreign tax credits, but still...
22:49 wizzyrea      only two nation-states in the world tax the worldwide income of their residents. one is a fascist state run by lunatics, the other is eritrea.
22:50 dcook         hehe
22:50 wizzyrea      s/residents/citizens/
22:50 pianohacker   that always threw me for a loop... would you have to renounce your citizenship or something to avoid that?
22:51 * dcook       thinks that's how that goes
22:51 pianohacker   jeez.
22:51 wizzyrea      yes, you would have to do that
22:51 wizzyrea      and then face a lifetime of being hassled at the border to the US
22:52 wizzyrea      and it used to be pretty cheap, $500, to renounce
22:52 wizzyrea      now it's something like 13k
22:52 eythian       wow what?
22:52 pianohacker   what?!
22:52 pianohacker   that's asinine
22:52 dcook         Wow...
22:52 eythian       Early termination fee? :)
22:52 wizzyrea      haha
22:53 wizzyrea      it may not be that much. I don't want to spread misinformation - let me look it up
22:53 dcook         But misinformation is the best!
22:53 dcook         At least that's what I was told...
22:54 wizzyrea      In 2008, Congress enacted the Heroes Earnings Assistance and Relief Act that imposes a penalty—an "exit tax" or expatriation tax—on certain people who give up their U.S. citizenship or long-term permanent residence.[35] Effective June 2008, U.S. citizens who renounce their citizenship are subject under certain circumstances to an expatriation tax, which is meant to extract from the expatriate taxes that would have been paid had they
22:54 wizzyrea      remained a citizen: all property of a covered expatriate is deemed sold for its fair market value on the day before the expatriation date, which usually results in a capital gain, which is taxable income.[36] Eduardo Saverin, a Brazilian-born co-founder of Facebook, renounced his U.S. citizenship just before the company's expected initial public offering; the timing prompted media speculation that the act was motivated by potential U.S.
22:54 wizzyrea      tax obligations.[27]
22:54 pianohacker   _wow_
22:55 wizzyrea      oh sorry, it's 2,350 up from 450
22:55 wizzyrea      plus whatever you have that could be taxed as above.
22:55 dcook         Mmm Canada has the capital gains tax as well
22:55 pianohacker   still $2350 higher than it should be
22:55 dcook         Yay for being poor!
22:55 wizzyrea      you guys elected them. :P
22:56 pianohacker   weren't you in the US in 2008? ;)
22:57 wizzyrea      Yep, but not in 2012
22:57 pianohacker   ah okay
22:58 pianohacker   That is really rather spectacular. The foreign taxation stuff also can't be much fun for you or trea...
22:58 wizzyrea      there are agreements between certain nations
22:58 wizzyrea      it's not terrible.
22:58 wizzyrea      for NZ
22:58 pianohacker   ah, I guess that's something :/
23:01 dcook         Same with Aus
23:01 dcook         Although it can be tricky for students
23:01 dcook         Like...
23:01 dcook         While I was considered a Canadian resident, I made income in Australia and paid tax in Australia
23:02 dcook         That was considered taxable income in Canada, but because there's a tax treaty, I could claim foreign tax credits
23:02 dcook         But... the tax agency took my student tax credits before the foreign tax credits...
23:02 dcook         And student tax credits are super valuable...
23:03 dcook         So I was annoyed by the tax folks taking all my student tax credits when it would have actually been fair if they took the foreign tax credits
23:03 dcook         ... I may have also considered studying international tax law after working at a private law firm that had a sizeable tax department...
23:03 dcook         The amount of resources available on "tax shelters" is staggering
23:13 dcook         Interesting... checkauth() things you're in the opac unless you tell it you're not...
23:13 dcook         hmm
23:14 dcook         And mod_debarment.pl doesn't say it's in the intranet...
23:19 dcook         Hmm mod_debarment.pl is only used in "koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/borrower_debarments.inc"
23:20 dcook         So I'm thinking it's an intranet only script...
23:20 dcook         And since it's using checkauth() rather than the service auth... I'm just going to sneak in a little "type => 'intranet'" into that bad boy...
23:20 dcook         Or whatever the equivalent is..
23:22 dcook         Ahh... master already has it
23:22 dcook         master++
23:22 dcook         @master
23:22 huginn        dcook: I suck
23:22 dcook         @karma master
23:22 huginn        dcook: Karma for "master" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
23:23 * dcook       really needs to check master more often...
23:23 dcook         oleonard++
23:24 pianohacker   oleonard++
23:24 dcook         Seriously, oleonard is a champion
23:24 dcook         He needs to inherit a fortune so that he can tour the world and not be so far away though :p
23:24 dcook         Or win the lottery
23:24 dcook         That would work too
23:32 dcook         eythian might like these:
23:32 dcook         "Teen pregnancies drop significantly after age 19."
23:32 dcook         "Skydiving without a parachute is a once in a lifetime experience."
23:57 wizzyrea      @wunder nzwn
23:57 huginn        wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (12:30 PM NZDT on March 06, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Steady).
23:57 wizzyrea      light rain. oh weather underground you are funny.
23:59 dcook         @syd
23:59 huginn        dcook: I've exhausted my database of quotes
23:59 dcook         @wunder syd
23:59 huginn        dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 22.0°C (10:39 AM AEDT on March 06, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).