Time Nick Message
00:07 drojf good night #koha
00:37 dan hello people, just for a short question
00:38 dan what's the purpose of hold_fill_targets table?
00:39 dan what happens if I remove it from the queries made in Reserves.pm?
00:44 dan_w what's the purpose of the hold_fill_targets table? what happens if I remove hold_fill_targets from the queries using it in Reserves.pm?
01:14 Brooke o/
01:27 Brooke @seen nengard
01:27 huginn Brooke: nengard was last seen in #koha 9 hours, 35 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <nengard> bag and then we're going to dinner with everyone on Sunday - right? :)
01:28 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
01:28 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (2:00 PM NZDT on February 26, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
01:33 Brooke @wunder Washington, DC
01:33 huginn Brooke: The current temperature in Eckington Pl, NE, Washington, District of Columbia is 3.8°C (8:23 PM EST on February 25, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from midnight tonight to noon EST Thursday...
01:40 wizzyrea warmer than you thought :)
01:43 Brooke yeah, right this second ;)
01:44 Brooke Yesterday 27° -2° 0.00 in
01:46 Brooke enyway, I'm off like a prom dress
01:46 Brooke cheers folks
01:46 Brooke good typing at ye again :)
02:08 wizzyrea good luck, ttyl!
02:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #72 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
02:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #72: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/72/
02:55 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 12861 : Noisy warn in the error logs
02:55 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12861: (follow-up) Noisy warn in error logs
02:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12861 minor, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Noisy warns in C4/AuthoritiesMarc.pm
02:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #73 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
03:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #73: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/73/
03:24 jenkins_koha * Olli-Antti Kivilahti: Bug 13025 - Software error: Undefined subroutine &C4::Circulation::HasOverdues called at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Circulation.pm line 1925
03:24 jenkins_koha * Justin: Bug - 11345 - Self registration captcha
03:24 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13432 - SIP Server does not respect timeout setting
03:24 jenkins_koha * Mason James: Revert "Bug - 11345 - Self registration captcha"
03:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13025 minor, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Stable , Software error: Undefined subroutine &C4::Circulation::HasOverdues called at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Circulation.pm line 1925
03:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13432 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , SIP Server does not respect timeout setting
03:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #74 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
03:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #74: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/74/
03:52 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13339 - Cart button doesn't open the cart
03:52 jenkins_koha * Thomas: Bug 10241 - Easy analyticals creates two 773 fields. Search/link from host to children is broken
03:52 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13333: Fix Display basket group for already received orders
03:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13339 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Cart button doesn't open the cart
03:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10241 normal, P4, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Easy analyticals creates two 773 fields. Search/link from host to children is broken
03:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13333 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Basket group is not displayed for already received orders
03:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #75 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
04:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #75: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/75/
04:21 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12860: the export tools explodes if a field is not exported
04:21 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13638 - Batch patron modification tool missing option to switch language
04:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12860 normal, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Tools > Data export : "Don't export fields" option doesn't work
04:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13638 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Batch patron modification tool missing option to switch language
04:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #76 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
04:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #76: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/76/
04:55 jenkins_koha Olli-Antti Kivilahti: Bug 13602 - Username/password already exists when editing borrower attributes and messaging preferences
04:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13602 major, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Stable , Username/password already exists when editing borrower attributes and messaging preferences
04:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #77 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
05:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #77: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/77/
05:24 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 13401 - sort branches alphabetically in admin/authorised_values.pl
05:24 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13201: GetSuggestion takes suggestionid
05:24 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11954 - Clean up currency default files
05:24 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12323 [SIGNED OFF] - Acquisitions search results fixed in order of biblionumber
05:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13401 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , sort branches alphabetically in admin/authorised_values.pl
05:24 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 13431 - Shared FastMmap file causes issues
05:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13201 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , GetSuggestion takes suggestionid
05:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11954 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Clean up currency default files
05:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12323 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Acquisitions search results fixed in order of biblionumber
05:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13431 critical, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Stable , Shared FastMmap file causes issues
05:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #78 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
05:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #78: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/78/
05:52 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 13431 [QA Follow-up]: Shared FastMmap file causes issues
05:52 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 13343: Embed items when send a basket/shelf
05:52 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13603 - autoBarcode setting hbyymmincr not taking month into account when looking up next increment
05:52 jenkins_koha * Martin Renvoize: Bug 12858: Add error handling to Syndetics Index
05:52 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12858 [QA Followup] - Don't call webservice if we have no data
05:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13431 critical, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Stable , Shared FastMmap file causes issues
05:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13343 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Items are not embedded when sending a basket/shelf
05:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13603 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , autoBarcode setting hbyymmincr not taking month into account when looking up next increment
05:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12858 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Stable , Syndetics index apreciably slow page load for items without result at Syndetics
05:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #79 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
05:58 drojf morning #koha
05:59 * dcook__ waves
05:59 drojf hi dcook
05:59 dcook how goes it?
06:05 drojf fine. how about you?
06:05 wahanui i already had it that way, drojf.
06:05 drojf morning wahanui :D
06:09 * drojf needs coffee
06:11 dcook hehe
06:11 dcook Not bad. About to leave for the day
06:11 dcook Cheers!
06:12 drojf cu!
06:15 drojf coffee \o/
06:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #79: NOW UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/79/
06:21 jenkins_koha Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for Koha 3.16.08 release
06:36 rangi eeek 41 failures
06:39 * magnuse waves
06:40 rangi mtj: are the tests all passing on your local build?
06:41 magnuse lesson learned: storing ePub files in mysql is probably not a good idea
06:43 mtj hey rangi, yes, they have been passing OK
06:45 mtj aah, oops - i missed those last 3 fails
06:50 rangi you might want to ask tcohen to install memcached on those machines, that should make the Cache.t pass, we are telling it to use memcached but have no memcached server set up so they fail
06:50 rangi hmm actually no they are failing on 3.16.x
06:51 rangi those are valid fails
06:51 mtj hmm, ok
06:51 rangi 06:53:35 # Failed test 'Data retrieved from cache'
06:51 rangi 06:53:35 # at t/Cache.t line 76.
06:51 rangi 06:53:35 # got: '2'
06:51 rangi 06:53:35 # expected: '1'
06:51 rangi etc
06:52 rangi they pass on 3.18.x but are failing on 3.16.x locally
06:53 rangi to test you need to do this
06:53 rangi export CACHING_SYSTEM=memcached
06:53 rangi then
06:53 rangi prove -v t/Cache.t
06:53 rangi i can do a bisect if you like to try and find the commit that broke them?
06:54 mtj yeah, im interested in that
06:55 mtj hey chris, ive got to afk for 30ish mins
06:55 rangi no worries ill paste in what i find
06:55 mtj i can hopefully revert the 2 fastmap patches, to fix this one
06:56 rangi you can read back :)
06:56 mtj cool
07:00 rangi actually looks like its been failing for ages, ill see what patches fixed it for 3.18.x
07:12 rangi hmm there are a lot of differences between Koha/Cache.pm in 3.16.x and in 3.18.x
07:19 rangi yeah not sure i can fix that, I dont think caching is working in 3.16
07:19 rangi and hasnt for a while, it was only passing tests in the past as it was skipping them
07:21 * magnuse is happy that 3.18.4 fixed the performance issues
07:24 ashimema any css gurus out therE?
07:25 * magnuse suspects oleonard of sleeping
07:25 ashimema me too
07:26 ashimema I can't for the life of me work out hwo to override a the background color of lines in a datatable..
07:26 ashimema it's driving me nuts..
07:30 * rangi wanders off to do laundry
07:34 magnuse ashimema: maybe you are not meant to mes with it :-)
07:42 reiveune hello
07:43 magnuse bonjour reiveune
07:43 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:43 reiveune salut magnuse
07:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 2.5°C (8:42 AM CET on February 26, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
07:43 magnuse :-O
07:43 magnuse @wunder boo
07:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 26, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
07:43 magnuse hah, take that! ;-)
08:09 gaetan_B hello
08:09 wahanui hey, gaetan_B
08:23 mtj thanks for the info rangi ^
08:24 mtj i'll see if i can sort out those errors
08:29 Joubu mtj++ #lot of 3.16.x new patches :)
08:49 marcelr hi #koha
08:52 magnuse hiya marcelr
08:52 marcelr :)
10:11 Joubu magnuse: on the hk15 gdoc, workshops tab there is a "Ma" line 26, is it for "Magnus ? :)
10:11 Joubu https://docs.google.com/a/biblibre.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuYwR41dPaFZdE11aTNfZmtZR2tmOE9MRVktNER2NVE&usp=sharing_eid#gid=6
10:12 drojf hi again #koha
10:27 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
10:27 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 7.0°C (11:20 AM CET on February 26, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
10:28 drojf it's so sunny i think i should consider using suncream while at the desk Oo
10:31 drojf is suncream even english? sunscreen? don't know. what do you think, wahanui?
10:31 wahanui drojf: bugger all, i dunno
10:31 drojf you should go outside more often, wahanui. :P
10:34 magnuse Joubu: no, i don't think that Ma is related to me :-)
10:36 * magnuse deleted it
10:41 fALSO Hi - im using koha from the packages in debian
10:42 fALSO And I think koha-create isnt creating a "zebradb" directory in /etc/koha/sites/INSTANCE
10:43 fALSO because from the generated confs... it seems he would read for example explain-biblios.xml from a zebradb directory inside the instance directory
10:43 fALSO but the only place im seeing that file is in /etc/koha/zebradb
11:13 gerundio we're trying to setup a Z39.50 server for our koha instance
11:14 gerundio the zebra output log shows a "Failed to listen on tcp:@9998" fatal error when I restart the instance
11:15 gerundio Google didn't return anything regarding that error relating to koha or zebra
11:16 gerundio nor does the wiki mention anything about it
11:39 pastebot "gerundio" at 193.136.124.225 pasted "Zebra error Failed to listen on tcp while trying to run Z39.50 server" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/440
11:39 gerundio I increased the log level on zebra
11:40 gerundio but still no relevant information is shown regarding as to why it isn't able to listen on port tcp:@9998
11:40 gerundio port 9998 is not being used by any other service
12:00 Joubu magnuse: I have created a hk15 wiki page (http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Marseille_hackfest_2015) Can I count on you to update the numbers part? :)
12:13 magnuse Joubu: i will try to do my very best, sir :-)
12:28 Joubu thanks magnuse!
12:34 kivilahtio Joubu: awesome!
12:34 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, kivilahtio
12:34 kivilahtio now where is the hackfest particiapnts list?
12:35 Joubu kivilahtio: on the dgoc
12:35 Joubu gdoc
12:37 kivilahtio Joubu: I cant find iiititt
12:37 kivilahtio it is not in the dokuwiki
12:37 Joubu https://docs.google.com/a/biblibre.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuYwR41dPaFZdE11aTNfZmtZR2tmOE9MRVktNER2NVE&usp=sharing_eid
12:37 Joubu kivilahtio: yes it is! first line :)
12:37 kivilahtio wow it has many layers
12:37 kivilahtio like an onion
12:37 kivilahtio woooow
12:37 kivilahtio I can peel them!
14:00 seneca Good morning, Kohaians
14:00 seneca If anyone has been following my odd "new report" browser-server disconnect issue, I've made a discovery that might prove useful
14:01 seneca If the SQL for a report is submitted as a long string with no line breaks, as it is when using the guided wizard, the error occurs.
14:02 drojf need ore sunshine. later #koha
14:02 drojf more even
14:02 seneca If the SQL is entered manually, with new lines / returns before every SQL function (SELECT, FROM, LEFT JOIN, etc.), then the report saves fine...
14:04 seneca I seem to remember that the SQL generated by the guided wizard USED to be formatted on the screen in multiple new lines... is that correct?
14:05 seneca I'm trying to figure out if the bug is in the display and submission of the generated SQL, or if the error is happening when the system is trying to parse the query as a long string
14:06 seneca If anyone's seeing this, can someone generate a guided wizard new report and let me know how the SQL is displayed on the screen before the report is saved?
14:16 seneca If anyone's seeing this, can someone generate a guided wizard new report and let me know how the SQL is displayed on the screen before the report is saved?
14:22 seneca that is, is it as one string, or is each SQL "command" on a new line?
14:23 magnuse seneca: one string, on 3.18.4
14:23 magnuse both on the page and in the source of the page
14:24 seneca magnuse: OK - thanks! That's what I'm seeing here. I'm assuming, however, that your browser session doesn't crash / get disconnected when you hit save? :)
14:32 magnuse seneca: nope, saving and running works as expected
14:33 seneca magnuse: Hmm.. ok. Thanks again
14:40 * magnuse wanders off to make dinner
15:20 marjorie hi, i have a question about table message_queue. Is it normal that only failed PREDUE emails are in the table? ODUE failed emails are not there.
16:02 reiveune bye
16:03 seneca Any developers around? What would make the browser get a connection error with the server if the SQL of a new report is submitted as one long string, but NOT get the error if the SQL has new lines before each SQL "command?"
16:14 gerundio seneca, paste an example at http://paste.koha-community.org
16:15 paul_p !seen tcohen
16:16 paul_p @seen tcohen
16:16 huginn paul_p: tcohen was last seen in #koha 3 days, 1 hour, 20 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <tcohen> uff, mark put a lot of effort on those patches!
16:38 marjorie anyone for my question? i have a question about table message_queue. Is it normal that only failed PREDUE emails are in the table? ODUE failed emails are not there
16:39 nengard There was a bug a while back not showing the odues in the message queue but i thought that was fixed - off to find the bug
16:40 seneca gerundio: Ha! I can't! I'm getting the same "ERR_CONNECTION_RESET" error as I am in koha!
16:41 pastebot "seneca" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "this is a test" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/441
16:41 seneca gerundio: But, like in koha, if I separate the SQL commands with new lines, it works
16:42 nengard marjorie i think that maybe overdues just don't show there - might be a bug but i can't find the report
16:42 seneca gerundio: I've only personally tested in the latest version of Chrome, but the problem's been reported to me by a Firefox user
16:44 seneca gerundio: OK, just tried it myself in Firefox - got the same problems as in Chrome
16:56 gerundio seneca, you're getting the "ERR_CONNECTION_RESET" error when trying to use http://paste.koha-community.org?
16:57 seneca gerundio: Yes! It's very strange - in both Firefox and Chrome, on Ubuntu 64bit and Windows 7 32bit...
16:57 seneca gerundio: I'm invesitgating now...
16:57 gerundio just use pastebin.com instead then
17:00 seneca gerundio: This is turning out absolutely fascinating... wish I could show you what I'm seeing as the cause of the failure!
17:01 seneca gerundio: I can't wrap my head around this at all... If I paste in the following
17:01 seneca gerundio: SELECT sum(borrowers.borrowernumber), borrowers.borrowernumber,borrowers.surname FROM borrowers LEFT JOIN statistics on (statistics.borrowernumber=borrowers.borrowernumber) LEFT JOIN items on (items.itemnumber = statistics.itemnumber) LEFT JOIN biblioitems on (biblioitems.biblioitemnumber = items.biblioitemnumber) WHERE statistics.branch='OhDaMVS' GROUP BY borrowers.borrowernumber ORDER BY borrowers.surname asc
17:01 seneca gerundio: into the paste field, it errors
17:01 pastebot "gerundio" at 193.136.124.225 pasted "Paste test" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/456
17:02 seneca gerundio: if I simply remove the space before "GROUP BY" it works!
17:02 seneca gerundio: if I add another space before "GROU BY" so that there are two, it works!
17:02 seneca gerundio: if I delete the space, and add it back, it fails...
17:03 seneca gerundio: I am so confused...and fascinated...
17:03 gerundio I just copy + pasted that as you can see and no problem whatsoever
17:04 seneca gerundio: I see that... so what the heck is up with my.. internet connection? It's the only thing I can think of that is common among those who have experienced this problem!
17:04 seneca gerundio: At least I can say it's not a koha thing!
17:05 gerundio you're using Chrome, right? just use the developer tools to trace the problem under the network tab
17:05 gerundio check the headers
17:16 gaetan_B bye
17:24 seneca gerundio: the plot thickens: If I connect directly to the koha server via my local network, instead of through our external ISP as it's usually routed, the error goes away
17:24 seneca gerundio: Gotta call the ISP guys and show this to them. They love tracking down this kind of thing... ;)
17:24 seneca gerundio: Going to lunch now - thanks for your help
17:24 gerundio np
18:18 barton @seen katrin
18:18 huginn barton: I have not seen katrin.
18:21 barton doh.
18:21 barton @seen cait
18:21 huginn barton: cait was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 3 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <cait> yeah i think it is
18:28 * barton thinks that in the name of symmetry and poetry, logbot should be renamed muninn
18:29 bag bonjour
18:30 barton morning, I mean... evening uh. happy thursday, bag.
18:32 bag heh thanks barton
19:48 marjorie <nengard>thanks nicole. i did not found a bug too. in message_queue there is overdue notice but not overdue notice failed.
19:53 wizzyrea barton: he used to be, when we changed servers someone else had muninn
19:54 barton aha. well that's understandable.
20:49 cait hi #koha
20:51 dan_w hello people, just a question plz
20:51 dan_w what's the purpose of the hold_fill_targets table? what happens if I remove hold_fill_targets from the queries using it in Reserves.pm?
20:59 cait I think it's used if more than one item at one branch can fill a hold
20:59 cait why do you want to change it?
21:00 cait in general i wouldn't recommend changing things for anything but a very very good reason - or if it's a bug, it hsould be fixed globally
21:02 dan_w I need to check reserves at instant, but the contents of hold_fill_targets is updated with the build_holds_queue cronjob every n minutes
21:03 wizzyrea use the holds to pull report instead.
21:03 wizzyrea dan_w ^
21:05 dan_w cait: I know I cannot make changes like this in a "light" way, that's the reason why I'm here
21:06 cait what wizzyrea said
21:06 cait it#s optional, there are other immediate ways
21:06 cait also, why? and what for? :)
21:06 cait tell us what you are trying to do
21:07 wizzyrea you should know, that if you don't use the reserve queue, it doesn't pick a specific item to fill a hold. Holds to pull shows all reserves that are available to be filled right now
21:07 wizzyrea reserve queue actually assigns an item (hence, hold_fill_targets)
21:07 wizzyrea also what cait said.
21:12 wnickc you can also create your own custom report to show you specifically the items you want to pull and have instant updates
21:12 dan_w cait: I'm working on a mod for closed library collections (ie, patrons cannot pick the books directly from the shelves, but someone from staff)
21:13 cait yeah
21:13 cait we have libraries doing that
21:13 cait with allowonshelfholds
21:13 wizzyrea yep, holds to pull is what you want for that, and allowonshelfholds
21:13 cait and you can use the holds report liz pointed out
21:13 cait allowonshelfholds is a system preference
21:14 cait that allows placing holds on available items (in closed stacks for example)
21:14 cait dan_w: where are you from?
21:14 dan_w but there are more implications and requirements apart from is covered by the allowonshelfholds syspref
21:15 dan_w cait: LatAm
21:15 wizzyrea You would have to tell us what they are, otherwise we can't help you.
21:15 cait dan_w: the problem is, that the more heavy changes you made, the harder will any update be
21:15 cait and holds is a sensitve area
21:15 wizzyrea ^^^^ so much this
21:16 cait if you plan to add aditional features, i would recommend also trying to bring them into koha (filing a bug, submitting good code for it, etc.)
21:16 cait and also checking well if there are workarounds that will achieve the same without touching the holds code
21:16 dan_w cait: and my test capacity is very very limited
21:16 wizzyrea of course Koha is open source, you can do what you want to it, but it's harder for us to help once you've changed it.
21:16 wizzyrea s/changed/forked/
21:16 dan_w so many test cases for QA
21:17 cait but you won't have to put work into it again and again...
21:17 cait if it's in koha
21:17 cait and others might even enhance yoru work :)
21:17 cait but we'd really need more info to help you more
21:17 wizzyrea you might be uncovering a hidden demand.
21:22 dan_w just I needed to clarify the "reason of being" of this hold_fill_targets table
21:22 wizzyrea that's not explaining your problem though.
21:22 wizzyrea really, you should try the holds to pull report.
21:23 wizzyrea for one, it's probably less intense to try and modify, should you need to.
21:24 cait dan_w: there are 2 reports
21:24 wizzyrea for two, the requirements, as you've stated them ("I need to know all reserves to pull at an instant") are fulfilled by that report as it stands.
21:24 cait one is build by message queue and the other is instant
21:24 dan_w wizzyrea: what report? are you referring to tmp_holdsqueue?
21:24 cait no
21:25 wizzyrea no, I am referring to on the circulation page, the report just under reserve queue named "holds to pull"
21:25 cait koha > circulation module start page > right column > holds to pull
21:32 dan_w I was not focusing on holds to pull until now, but mostly on the holds queue
21:32 eythian hi
21:39 dan_w cait: it's really a great help these answers that I'm receiving now, although my code was somewhat different
21:48 eythian https://github.com/dmarti/piehole <-- rangi, perhaps interesting to set up mirrored repos
21:51 eythian http://youtu.be/M3L0Ut_PVrk <-- BREAKING NEWS
21:51 cait Joubu++ lots of hackfest prep
21:54 wizzyrea also that name...
21:56 rangi morning
22:00 * dcook waves
22:00 * dcook heads off again
22:02 eythian http://youtu.be/yL_-1d9OSdk <-- rangi, here's a template for your talk
22:03 rangi heh
22:06 rangi hmmmm
22:06 rangi because it's what i do
22:06 rangi im submitting ideas to the NA User group thing
22:08 wnickc rangi++
22:39 cait @wunder Konstan
22:39 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found.
22:39 cait @wunder Konstanz
22:39 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is -0.2°C (11:39 PM CET on February 26, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
22:39 cait @wunder Marseille
22:40 huginn cait: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 8.3°C (11:39 PM CET on February 26, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
22:42 * eythian tries again, hopefully it won't break the internet
22:42 eythian @wunder nzwn
22:42 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on February 27, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
22:42 wizzyrea 19 is lovely and warm
22:43 eythian http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/masterton <-- I will be here tomorrow. Forecast high of 28°.
22:43 eythian rangi: did you get your ticket in the end?
22:43 wizzyrea that's getting close to too warm.
22:43 rangi ahh nope, kids duty
22:44 eythian http://www.brewday.co.nz/ <-- wizzyrea, is trea aware of this?
22:46 wizzyrea hm probably not
22:46 eythian well he should be, it's tomorrow :)
22:46 wizzyrea I think he has the pager, at least he does tonight and maybe even tomorrow :( :( :(
22:47 wizzyrea a train/bus ride for beer sounds like the most awesome saturday ever :( :(
22:47 eythian he can bring a laptop and cellphone
22:47 wizzyrea lulz.
22:47 wizzyrea no su after 2 though.
22:47 eythian heh
22:47 wizzyrea ;)
23:47 wnickc byee