Time  Nick         Message
23:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #57 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS)
23:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #56 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:56 dcook        I wonder why there is a borrower_debarrments table... but still debarred and debarredcomment fields in borrowers...
22:20 wahanui      goodnight cait. You'll be back.
22:20 cait         night all
19:57 rangi        back on now, for master
19:56 rangi        yep
19:53 cait         i think the emails were a good thing, even if i got osme too
19:52 cait         :)
19:51 rangi        yeah we have the check boxes unticked, turning them back on
19:49 cait         morning
19:49 huginn       rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:49 rangi        @later tell tcohen ill switch it on for master
19:49 huginn       rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:49 rangi        @later tell tcohen I think we have it set up not to
19:48 rangi        morning
18:41 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 2.0°C (7:41 PM CET on February 22, 2015). Conditions: Patches of Fog. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
18:41 cait         @wunder Konstanz
18:41 huginn       cait: Error: No such location could be found.
18:41 cait         @wunder Kontanz
18:41 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 6.6°C (7:40 PM CET on February 22, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
18:41 cait         @wunder marseille
17:54 drojf        great idea :)
17:54 cait         maybe we could share the cost for one
17:54 cait         lol
17:54 drojf        i need an assistant to manage all those mailing lists. and read them
17:50 drojf        folder
17:50 drojf        oh yes i am, it just does not have its own foler
17:49 drojf        haha
17:49 cait         i love questions i have actually answers to :)
17:49 cait         heh
17:49 drojf        cait++ #answering all my weird questions
17:48 drojf        oh you're right. why did i never subscribe to that?
17:47 cait         hm koha-translate i think
17:47 drojf        we do not have an international translation mailing list, do we?
16:50 cait         np :)
16:50 drojf        thanks
16:50 * drojf      is less confused
16:50 drojf        ok
16:50 drojf        AH!
16:49 cait         perl translate install <langcode> generates the translated templates
16:49 cait         perl translate update <langcode> puts the new/changed strings into the po files
16:49 cait         hm that's install
16:49 * drojf      is confused
16:49 drojf        i thought update was what i did to use the po files to generate the translations
16:48 cait         create if the language doesn't exist eyt
16:47 cait         perl translate update <langcode>
16:47 drojf        looks like that might be translate create F<lang> these days
16:47 cait         cd misc/translator
16:46 drojf        yes. i was looking for the instructions for translation managers. because i wanted to know what they do to generate the po files before they put them on the translation server
16:45 cait         pootle even :)
16:45 cait         there is nothing pootel specific to our po files
16:45 cait         again: what are you trying to do?
16:45 cait         i think the instructions were for translation managers
16:45 * drojf      hates pootle and the koha wiki
16:45 drojf        cait: apparently that is completely outdated, at least i don't have anything with 'pootle' on my dev vm
16:23 cait         drojf: not sure how current htat is, what are you trying to do? :)
16:22 drojf        have to reboot
16:22 drojf        i meant http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translation_Server#From_Koha_to_Pootle_.28String_Freeze.29
16:22 cait         perl translate update de-DE ?
16:21 cait         drojf: pootle is still innocent here :)
16:21 cait         ah sorry, distracted by dinner
16:16 drojf        found it on the wiki
16:10 drojf        so what do translation managers do to create the po files?
16:04 drojf        and continuing to hate pootle ^^
16:04 drojf        reading the context thing now
16:01 cait         i was planning to fix term with jquery for now...
16:00 cait         i think we could do something with the translation tools to generate po files better... but no idea how
16:00 cait         but pootle is innocent
16:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Vocabulary disambiguation
16:00 cait         it is
16:00 cait         bug 11285
15:59 drojf        :(
15:59 drojf        but that's horrible
15:59 cait         it groups exact same strings together
15:59 cait         apart from changing the term
15:59 cait         i think there is no way currently
15:58 drojf        http://translate.koha-community.org/de/318/translate/de-DE-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po#unit=11425774 there is 'Comments: A' and when you hover over A, it shows all the files
15:58 drojf        and for course reserves, it is semester, not begriff or term
15:57 drojf        like, one translation for 'term' in 5 different files
15:57 drojf        those were several questions ;) i fixed the wrong translation after looking it up in an older po file. still i have the problem with grouped words
15:54 cait         and back button usually works to get back to the strings you just changed
15:54 wahanui      somebody said the question was "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
15:54 cait         what is the question?
15:54 cait         you are confusing me
15:16 * drojf      hates pootle
15:12 drojf        *does
15:12 drojf        how dies pootle decide what instances of a word to group? and how do i change one? in the po file, or is there some secret function in the front end?
14:58 drojf        ?
14:58 drojf        d'oh. is there an undo function for pootle
11:19 drojf        cait: maybe later. gotta leave
10:48 cait         drojf: wrote some patches - waiting for sign off now ;)
10:30 cait         one mean bug is that the accept/reject reason for suggestions doesn't seem to save any more
10:30 cait         mostly small things, but quite some
10:30 drojf        how many did you find? :)
10:29 cait         still filing bugs from the training... but almost done
10:28 drojf        hi cait
10:28 cait         morning drojf
00:13 * indradg    facepalms
00:13 cait         :)
00:12 indradg      cait: I just read up GetHiddenItemnumbers() from C4/Items.pm, so technically we should be able to filter out an item based on any one of the 42 fields in the 'items' tables
00:05 * indradg    smh!