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23:59 tcohen i aborted the idea once i figured zebra would return an error code ("elem doesn't exit") if some facet doesn't have any member
23:58 tcohen ;)
23:58 tcohen elem zebra::facet::itype:0:20,se:0:20,au:0:20
23:58 tcohen like in
23:58 tcohen that's why we cannot retrieve all facets at once
23:58 dcook How does that work?
23:58 dcook multi-elementSet, you say?
23:57 tcohen i want it not to abort if an elementSet doesn't exist in a multi-elementSet context
23:57 * dcook figures if we turn a "-" into a " ", all will probably be well... or about the same as in non-ICU at least
23:56 * tcohen agrees
23:56 dcook Poor tcohen
23:56 tcohen i was revisiting zebra's source code, again
23:56 dcook <transliterate rule="[:Number:] { '-' > '' "/>
23:56 dcook But this isn't a problem for numbers because of this line:
23:56 tcohen heh
23:56 dcook Or it's getting halfway through and deciding "nah"
23:56 dcook And it's not really
23:56 dcook It should be tokenizing
23:56 tcohen ah
23:56 dcook yeah, but it shouldn't be truncating :p
23:55 dcook I've noticed in non-ICU that it'll break a hyphenated word into separate terms
23:55 tcohen that's called... right truncation? :-P
23:55 dcook And discards the hyphen and anything after it
23:55 dcook I've noticed that ICU tries to tokenize, but it just keeps the start of the word
23:54 dcook The truncation of words that contain hyphens
23:54 tcohen which problem specifically?
23:53 dcook tcohen: Yeah, I found the problem surfaces in 2.0.59, but I think it can be avoided via the icu-words.xml thing
23:53 dcook Because you know... who doesn't want to learn about that
23:53 dcook On the plus side, I'm learning all about Unicode Regular Expressions: http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr18/#Categories
23:53 tcohen dcook: Zebra 2.0.59?
23:53 dcook Adventures in ICU + Zebra continue
23:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13331 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Subfield does not show in cataloging editor - if subfield is disabled in OPAC/enabled in Staff, via frameworks
23:40 jenkins_koha Mason James: fix for 13331 [Bug 13331] Subfield does not show in cataloging editor - if subfield is disabled in OPAC/enabled in Staff, via frameworks
23:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.16.x_U14 build #67: NOW UNSTABLE in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.16.x_U14/67/
23:38 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
23:38 tcohen @later tell cait things look... consistent
23:38 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
23:38 tcohen @later tell cait seems to work here :-/
23:17 BobB :)
23:17 BobB http://mrjohnclarke.com/tinkering/post/new-zealand-a-user-s-guide/
23:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #67 for job Koha_3.16.x_U14 (previous build: STILL FAILING)
22:54 wizzyrea lol.
22:54 * eythian starts providing wrong answers
22:53 wizzyrea I think eythian has the highest question -> happy user ratio here.
22:48 eythian np
22:48 JoeLib001 Thanks again eythinan. :-)
22:37 eythian http://kohageek.pbworks.com/w/page/60452540/How%20to%20move%20your%20koha%20database%20to%20newly%20installed%20Koha <-- this one, for example, tells you to drop your database and then create it. All that does is get rid of the grants on the original that are done to make sure it works.
22:36 dcook ^
22:36 eythian I really need to write a guide for migrating data from an old Koha to a new package-installed one. The instructions that people tend to cite are not the best.
22:27 mtj its fun to think of various combinations
22:19 mtj eythian: erowid link is genuis
22:15 JoeLib001 gotcha.
22:15 JoeLib001 That would be helpful. ;-)
22:15 eythian it should start automatically, but there's situations I've not really figured out where it doesn't seem to.
22:15 * eythian wishes again that Koha would say "zebra isn't running" rather than "no results" when that happens.
22:15 JoeLib001 Thanks, eythian. :-) Apparently I hadn't done that after I re-installed everything. XD
22:14 JoeLib001 'heh, that worked. XD
22:13 JoeLib001 ok
22:12 eythian sudo service koha-common restart
22:12 eythian First step: make sure zebra is running
22:12 eythian OK, I think two things are being conflated here making it confusing.
22:12 JoeLib001 I can't search for any titles.
22:12 JoeLib001 I was able to search for old stuff until I re-installed everything.
22:11 JoeLib001 It's actually setup as don't hide.
22:11 eythian so "but the new item I entered doesn't show up" is not the whole truth? nothing at all shows up?
22:11 eythian right
22:10 JoeLib001 I can pull the records up by their biblionumber though.
22:10 JoeLib001 Nope, I'm getting no search results.
22:09 cait and with that... i am going to bed :) night all!
22:09 cait aas you asked about hidden - does it work when turning opacsuppression off?
22:09 eythian you are getting search results at all?
22:09 eythian that should be pretty correct
22:08 JoeLib001 sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v koha
22:08 eythian how are you running your reindex?
22:08 JoeLib001 I can search for my Acquisitions Orders, but the OPAC and Z39.50 don't work.
22:08 eythian What do you mean? Since when? Are you using hidden things?
22:06 JoeLib001 Has something changed in how records are hidden?
22:06 JoeLib001 I just re-installed everything to see, if that would help too.... XD
22:05 JoeLib001 Zebra 2.0.44
22:05 JoeLib001 Hmm..., it seems like it re-indexes just fine, but the new item I entered doesn't show up.
22:03 wizzyrea zebraidx -V
22:02 wizzyrea what version of zebra are you using?
22:02 wizzyrea https://twitter.com/KimKierkegaard
22:01 eythian what happens when you try?
22:01 JoeLib001 Anyone have any ideas? It started doing this when I upgraded to Koha 3.18.3. XD
22:01 JoeLib001 I am trying to get Catalog Search to work. I have a package install of koha and tried to reindex zebra and that didn't help any.
21:59 eythian http://thedoomthatcametopuppet.tumblr.com/ <-- similar
21:59 wizzyrea reminds me of kim kirkekardashian.
21:59 wizzyrea however, the erowid ones are quite funny
21:58 wizzyrea that's funny in an "oh god, seriously, humanity?" kind of way.
21:58 * wizzyrea blinks at some of those
21:56 eythian https://twitter.com/shit_hn_says <-- also funny
21:55 eythian https://twitter.com/erowidrecruiter
21:41 tcohen nothing, I didn't remember that syspref, sorry
21:41 cait hm?
21:40 tcohen DisplayLibraryFacets
21:40 wizzyrea :)
21:40 wizzyrea well close enough
21:40 wizzyrea aw.
21:40 wahanui o/* HIGHFIVE *o
21:40 wizzyrea highfive!
21:39 wnickc wizzyrea++ highfives, virtual or otherwise, are the best
21:37 * tcohen hides
21:36 cait tcohen++
21:36 cait or had to listen to me complaining about it...
21:36 cait poor tcohen already got me complaining about it
21:36 cait oh it depends on the sorting option you choose :(
21:35 eythian or showing zero?
21:35 eythian is it only showing one?
21:34 cait trying to figureout why a search returning 22 results would not show both itemtypes in the result set as facets
21:32 eythian jcamins: though, you can tell where they're from by how they pronounce it.
21:31 jcamins Too many people can pronounce "shibboleth" in this day and age.
21:31 * jcamins likes facets. Anyone who uses the word non-ironically is immediately identified as a librarian.
21:31 rangi so you aren't alone
21:30 rangi so do most users
21:30 eythian you don't anna fix the display of facets in the ES code, do you?
21:30 * cait dislikes facets strongly right now
21:30 wizzyrea lol that's adorable
21:29 rangi http://librarykris.tumblr.com/post/109948517243/lol-post-all-hail-the-necromouser
21:28 eythian all of them.
21:28 cait which rules?
21:27 eythian it's the rules
21:27 cait why?
21:27 eythian and, then you'd have to tell us
21:27 eythian *were
21:26 cait eythian: what if i was?
21:26 eythian bye magnuse
21:26 magnuse well, have fun #koha!
21:26 magnuse excellent!
21:24 eythian magnuse: getting there :)
21:24 magnuse or switch to ES ;-)
21:24 rangi right, so we definitely need to find out the issue before jessie becomes the new stable
21:24 wizzyrea eythian++ for knowing all the things
21:23 tcohen ohhhhhh
21:23 eythian wizzyrea: the debian packages are reasonably current for when they're released, but they won't get updated beyond that. Jessie has 2.0.59.
21:22 wizzyrea I meant people who were installing production servers
21:21 magnuse \m/
21:21 cait my head hurts tonight, side effects
21:21 eythian cait: are you a bot? You have to tell us if you are.
21:21 cait right
21:21 eythian cait: you just said that
21:20 tcohen \o/
21:19 magnuse tcohen: ooh, metallica!
21:16 cait hi eythian
21:13 eythian hello cait
21:12 cait hi eythian
21:12 eythian hi
21:01 tcohen we need to tackle problems with newer zebras before they hit Debian
20:54 wizzyrea it seems clear that the debian packages *don't* track indexdata closely.
20:54 wizzyrea I wonder which instructions people are following that they get their zebras from indexdata, instead of debian/ubuntu
20:53 tcohen "... and quickly he's subdued..."
20:53 tcohen the first one was in "The unforgiven"
20:52 wizzyrea hehe
20:52 tcohen :-D
20:52 tcohen it is the second time in my life that I read/listen to that word: subdued
20:52 wizzyrea there we go.
20:52 wizzyrea trained?
20:52 wizzyrea maybe not domesticated
20:52 wizzyrea more like, compliant.
20:51 tcohen *does that exist?
20:51 wizzyrea whichever verb you choose, it will probably end up with a subdued zebra.
20:51 tcohen domesticating?
20:51 wizzyrea wrestling, wrangling, lassoing, your choice.
20:51 tcohen we'll find out
20:51 tcohen you mean, unsuccessfully? :-P
20:51 tcohen heh
20:50 wizzyrea tcohen++ for heroic tackling of zebras.
20:32 tcohen hi rangi
20:23 cait wb rangi
20:22 rangi back
19:45 tcohen heh
19:45 tcohen now, we need to try setting the newest zebra, and finding what changed
19:44 tcohen exzcellent
19:44 * tcohen read
19:44 cait tcohen: back to a working search :D
19:43 tcohen hi there
19:39 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
19:39 cait @later tell tcohen facets are working now again
19:02 tcohen later #koha
18:50 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
18:50 tcohen @later tell Joubu try FacetMaxCount = 10 with use_zebra_facets
18:47 cait tcohen: looks like this is working
18:45 tcohen our default (20) is not a bad one
18:45 * tcohen is trying to find the bottleneck
18:45 tcohen so elem zebra::facet::au:0:100 takes 1.3s and elem zebra::facet::au:0:10 around 0.13s
18:44 tcohen hmpf, the amount of time needed to calculate the facets is linear with respect to the amount of facets to retrieve
18:43 cait ah -doc and -common
18:43 cait removing things now
18:42 cait i will do once the update is done, not seeing indexdata listed so far
18:42 tcohen just in case
18:42 tcohen cait: sudo apt-get remove koha-deps ; sudo apt-get autoremove
18:41 cait rangi: yes, but i will do it again
18:41 tcohen thanks
18:41 tcohen no worries
18:40 rangi tcohen: dns change made, not sure how long it will take to propogate
18:40 tcohen it seemed
18:40 rangi did you do an apt-get update?
18:39 cait tcohen: thought it was?
18:39 tcohen hi rangi!
18:37 rangi yeah
18:34 tcohen you need to comment the indexdata's repo out
18:33 wahanui Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
18:33 cait anyone?
18:33 cait i have held back defect packages?
18:33 cait i can't even install koha-common rightnow :(
18:33 cait i have removed utils too
18:33 cait hmpf
18:21 cait yeah and also that i don't know more about how this all works *sigh*
18:21 tcohen cait: it is sad that i cannot reproduce to aid debugging
18:20 mtj hey rsz, what koha version?
18:19 mtj 'apachectl status' is good too
18:18 rsz ok..
18:18 tcohen there might be too much iowait there
18:18 tcohen rsz: also try iotop
18:17 rsz ok.. I will start there thanks :-)
18:16 mtj rsz, i would use top and apache logs myself
18:16 rsz I had done the setup of the db on the same machine, I thought that was the cause of slowness, but even after moving the db to a seperate machine, the page loads are still the same!! so most probably some tuning needs to be done that I am not aware of...
18:15 rsz one web server machine and db server seperate machine..
18:14 rsz the setup is done on cloud as of now for evaluation..
18:14 rsz for example I was setting up the first library via db admin login, every page takes atleast 15-20 seconds to show up...
18:13 mtj rsz: yr koha is much faster on the LAN?
18:13 rsz tcohen: any link clicked, takes atleast 15 seconds to respond...
18:12 tcohen rsz: how slow? doing what task?
18:12 mtj ok, just checking
18:12 cait yes
18:11 mtj cait, you did apt-get update too?
18:11 rsz my vanilla koha installation is _very_ slow, when accessed over the web, where can I start tuning?
18:11 tcohen I'm not alone :-P
18:11 tcohen so it doesn't install right now for you, just as with my setup
18:10 cait and i complains about wanting to install the new version and missing dependencies
18:10 cait and now sudo apt-get install idzebra-2.0
18:10 cait yeah but I did sudo apt-get remove idzebra-2.0
18:09 tcohen out
18:09 tcohen cait: that looks like you have it commented our
18:07 cait http://paste.koha-community.org/395
18:05 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
18:05 tcohen @later tell Joubu I think I found the speed problem in the facets
18:04 cait sorry paste coming up
18:04 wahanui cait is from germany. Ask me about germany.
18:04 tcohen cait?
17:56 tcohen deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/debian/ wheezy main
17:56 tcohen I have
17:56 tcohen i'm missing something
17:55 cait it's several lines
17:55 cait sorry, got distracted
17:49 tcohen so I try myself?
17:49 tcohen can you paste the line?
17:49 tcohen you could comment it
17:49 cait can i just delete them?
17:49 cait strange
17:49 cait but i removed them using the gui
17:49 cait hmmm still there
17:48 tcohen s/(.*)/sudo $1/
17:48 tcohen grep -R indexdata /etc/apt/*
17:47 cait and i deactivated the indexdata repositories
17:47 cait hm i still get ... trying to install 2.0.59
17:46 cait trying to fix mine now
17:45 cait at some point
17:45 cait she probably added the indexdata repo too
17:45 tcohen her logs say "...[log] zebra_start 2.0.59..."
17:44 tcohen cindy, somehow, has the same idzebra version
17:44 cait can i try to switch back?
17:44 cait but cindy got it too
17:44 tcohen we should warn people so they use the distro-provided zebra package
17:44 cait werid
17:43 tcohen (dependency issues)
17:43 tcohen cait, i cannot even install that zebra version on 14.04
17:40 cait no luck
17:40 cait yep i did that
17:40 cait of course
17:40 cait oh and reindexed
17:40 cait *sigh*
17:40 tcohen cait: just rm -rf ~/koha-dev ; perl Makefile.PL
17:40 cait i just reran Makefile.PL from scratch and deleted koha-dev before i did... but still broken
17:39 cait but on other bad news... since we tried fixing things last night my search now is totall ybrooken in opac :(
17:39 cait it's probably been set up like that formnths now
17:39 cait not that i remember
17:39 tcohen did you run into any dependency issues fr that?
17:38 tcohen cait: I cannot install the newest idzebra from the repo
17:32 gaetan_B bye
17:30 wahanui i think the source is good.
17:30 tcohen yes, the source
17:29 cait tcohen: where?
17:28 cait sources thing?
17:28 tcohen can u copy your repo configuration?
17:26 cait we just did wahanui!
17:26 wahanui Can we get some hard data on that?
17:26 cait looks like it
17:25 tcohen so, you don't use Ubuntu's/Debian's but indexdata's
17:24 cait it required newer versions, so we added the repo
17:24 cait i think a leftover from when i was testing pazpar2 with pianohacker
17:24 cait indexdata
17:24 cait 2.0.59-1.indexdata
17:24 tcohen i just want to know where are you picking it from
17:24 cait sec - but i think the same as cindy's we checked last night
17:23 tcohen cait: apt-cache policy idzebra-2.0 ?
17:18 cait tcohen: still around?
16:47 ashimema_ hmm.. seems it's pretty uk.. broadening the question.. anyone got any recommendations on OAI harvesting
16:46 ashimema_ crossref.. even
16:46 ashimema_ anyone here using crosref for anything?
16:18 fridolin bye
16:07 tcohen that might be an important one regarding speed
16:07 tcohen Joubu: reminded me of a "TODO" I put on hte zebra facets code :/
16:07 tcohen heh
16:06 khall tcohen: nope, you just beat me to the send button ; )
16:06 tcohen khall: was my answer tl;dr?
15:50 Joubu bag: ok thanks!
15:49 bag Joubu: no partners on 3.18 currently
15:10 Joubu khall: do you have ByWater's customers on Koha 3.18 with use_zebra_facets enabled?
14:53 khall np!
14:53 Joubu khall: yep it makes sense, thanks
14:52 khall Joubu: not sure. Maybe we should just change the permissions, and document why. That way if another use for it comes along it can be checked for other permissiosn
14:52 Joubu I am not sure how to fix that correctly
14:51 Joubu should we move it into the circ dir?
14:51 Joubu khall: actually the upload script could be used for something else, but it's not
14:49 khall Joubu: sounds like a bug to me
14:49 Joubu it means that a librarian cannot upload the .koc files generated offline
14:48 Joubu khall: Is there a reason circ/offline.pl needs the perm circulate_remaining_permissions but tools/upload-file.pl needs tools => * ?
14:21 tcohen lds, paul_p thanks anyway!
14:20 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
14:20 tcohen @later tell rangi please do this DNS change es.koha-community.org -> 200.16.16.139
14:19 tcohen I thought you did!
14:19 tcohen hmpf
14:13 lds tcohen: may be chris
14:13 Joubu tcohen: I think it's Chris
14:12 lds tcohen: but biblibre do not manage koha-community.org DNS ZONE
14:09 tcohen bgkriegel is trying to put the pieces together to have the PDF manual built
14:08 tcohen thanks!
14:08 lds tcohen: ok
14:08 tcohen pointing es.koha-community.org -> 200.16.16.139
14:07 tcohen we need to make a DNS change
14:07 tcohen lds: hi
14:07 tcohen thanks paul_p
14:07 tcohen heh
14:07 lds tcohen: hello
14:06 paul_p tcohen => lds is here
14:06 lds paul_p: hello
14:06 lds hello
14:03 Joubu why do you think the patch will make things worse?
14:02 tcohen but am convinced we need to find a sound way of doing this
14:02 tcohen i have no clear ideas on the best way to do it
14:02 tcohen (i.e. have DBIC set the connection, with its probable own caching tools)
14:01 tcohen it avoided the task to do it the other way around
14:01 tcohen on that bug, a decision was made, to reuse C4::Context->dbh in DBIx::Class
14:00 Joubu what could we do?
13:59 tcohen for broader opinions
13:59 tcohen we need to discuss this on the dev meeting
13:59 Joubu ha
13:59 Joubu it's what my patch does
13:59 Joubu tcohen: because the connexion wasn't cached
13:58 tcohen i think this caching could make things even worse
13:58 tcohen specifically, because older DBIx::Class does close the connexion without being asked
13:58 tcohen the recent problems you found, are related to a bug that made DBIx:Class use the C4::Context->dbh handler
13:57 tcohen yes
13:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13645 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , DBIx connection needs to be cached
13:57 Joubu tcohen: on bug 13645?
13:56 tcohen we need to make a decision on what handler to use
13:55 tcohen Joubu: i've been reading Jaceck's idea of caching the db connection
13:34 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
13:29 tcohen morning
12:55 cait is my guess
12:55 cait if you look at the help in bugzilla verified probably has some meaing of 'it's a real thing'
12:55 cait i think a misunderstnding on how we use bugzilla maybe
12:54 cait hi oleonard
12:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13651 enhancement, P3, ---, koha-bugs, VERIFIED WISHLIST, Provision for monthly library fee
12:54 oleonard Is there any reason for Bug 13651 to be "verified wishlist" instead of "new?"
12:53 Joubu hi oleonard!
12:52 oleonard Hi #koha
12:50 cait Joubu: true
12:47 Joubu stupid timezone
11:22 reiveune1 !ping
11:16 cait Joubu++
10:02 cait hi #koha
09:56 tsp_ so that one can avoid typing it repeatadly
09:56 tsp_ is it possible to get publishers authority data
09:56 tsp_ how to get authority records for publishers
09:24 kivilahtio magnuse: I can't understand your languages. I can just sit happily
09:15 magnuse ashimema: just curious: how far have you gotten with pianohacker's rest api code?
09:14 drojf and hi #koha
09:14 drojf hei magnuse
09:13 magnuse moin drojf
08:54 magnuse kivilahtio: i was just thinking we could all go sit in a corner at some time during the hackfest and talk amongst ourselves in langauges the others won't understand ;-)
08:39 gaetan_B hello
08:22 kivilahtio magnuse: I'll be back in an hour or so
08:22 kivilahtio magnuse: but I can represent Finland to the best of my abilities in the hacfest pre/post-conference
08:21 kivilahtio magnuse: my gut feeling is that we cannot make the trip to Oslo with the representatives of the national library and central library.
08:21 kivilahtio magnuse: We have been planning to visit Oslo last month :) but apparently there hasn't been that much momentum to make it happen on a national level (as it was supposed to happen)
08:20 kivilahtio magnuse: I need to go buy some spare parts for my bike. The pedaling crank broke :(
08:20 kivilahtio magnuse: you mean in Marseilles?
08:14 magnuse ah vara = kivilahtio
08:14 magnuse we could have a nordic mini-meetup :-)
08:13 magnuse vara?
08:13 Viktor Would be nice to meet you, Oslo, Vara and Sthlm at the same time.
08:12 Viktor And I know Sthlm university is going.
08:11 magnuse woohoo :-)
08:11 Viktor Bonjour Magnuse! Not quite got everything sorted. But still looking promising.
08:08 magnuse Viktor: ready to sign up for the hackfest yet?
08:08 magnuse bonjour france et Viktor
07:58 alex_a bonjour
07:44 reiveune hello
07:31 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 2.1°C (8:31 AM CET on February 03, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.49 in 999 hPa (Falling).
07:31 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:28 magnuse one month and we are hackfesting like mad!
07:27 magnuse :-)
07:27 * cait waves back
07:27 * magnuse waves
07:16 cait eythian++
06:11 dcook The bad server was using the Squeeze package from Indexdata...
06:11 dcook Aha!
06:04 dcook Yep, definitely the newest version... http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/
06:03 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:03 dcook @later tell cait how did you install Zebra? It looks like the Debian/Ubuntu packages are stuck bacck at 2.0.44, but you're using 2.0.59... which is the newest version, I tihnk
06:03 dcook At least 2.0.44 is the newest in Debian 7 and Ubuntu 14.04...
06:03 dcook Although 2.0.44 is from about 2010, I think
06:02 dcook It looks like 2.0.44 is the newest the Debian packages get...
06:02 dcook 2.0.44*
06:02 dcook Interesting that cait was using Zebra 2.0.59 and wizzyrea was using 2.0.4...
05:34 AmitG chris around?
05:34 AmitG all
05:34 wahanui what's up, AmitG
05:34 AmitG hi
04:34 dcook I'm wondering if this is a Zebra bug..
04:32 dcook Maybe I'm crazy... and I was testing on the bad site the whole time... but I would've sworn that I wasn't
03:59 dcook I think the only difference is that I went to the loo
03:58 dcook That's... different
03:57 dcook Magically not happening now
03:57 dcook All the problems I was describing...
03:57 dcook wth...
03:57 dcook wizzyrea: pretty much :p
03:56 wahanui http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/dcln.gif
03:56 wizzyrea tl;dr?
03:56 wizzyrea tl;dr
03:48 dcook Nope. The <s></s> thing is just weird..
03:47 dcook Or does it..
03:47 dcook The <s></s> thing seems to be unrelated..
03:45 dcook I suppose it could be a GRS1+ICU thing or just an ICU thing..
03:45 dcook Dunno. Too many variables...
03:40 dcook which include the hyphen
03:40 dcook then uses 4=1 when merging the results to know only to return "self-confidence" results
03:40 dcook So it tokenises... runs two separate sub-queries..
03:39 dcook SearchResult-1: term=self cnt=578, term=confidence cnt=41
03:39 dcook Number of hits: 3, setno 9
03:39 dcook Search was a success.
03:39 dcook Received SearchResponse.
03:39 dcook Sent searchRequest.
03:39 dcook Z> f @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=1 "self-confidence"
03:39 wahanui somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
03:39 dcook Interesting...
03:28 dcook I suppose I can test that..
03:28 dcook I don't know about storing/indexing
03:28 dcook At least when searching
03:28 dcook Well, a non-ICU install seems to tokenise as well
03:27 dcook Hmm
03:26 eythian if it tokenises the data the same way, then it's probably sensible
03:26 dcook t
03:26 dcook Mmm, righ
03:26 eythian yeah, I guess it's tokenising
03:26 dcook But it's not actually doing truncation really
03:26 dcook Not when I tried it in Koha
03:25 dcook "<s>UPA</s>12345"
03:25 eythian does @attr 5=100 make a difference?
03:25 dcook Or rather..
03:25 dcook But apparently it's stored as "UPA 12345"
03:25 dcook UPA-12345 is a barcode
03:25 dcook So traumatologie-UPA is just a search string
03:24 dcook No wait, it is doing an AND
03:24 dcook Ahh or does it... maybe I'm silly..
03:23 dcook But it's not. It's just returning the records that match "traumatologie"
03:23 * eythian is having a blind day
03:23 eythian it is quoted
03:23 eythian oh
03:23 dcook Which means it should be ANDing the terms...
03:23 dcook the weird thing is that is doing a word list search
03:23 dcook Quote which?
03:22 eythian do you have to quote it maybe?
03:22 eythian ah
03:21 dcook records returned: 0
03:21 dcook SearchResult-1: term=traumatologie cnt=13, term=UPA cnt=12265
03:21 dcook Number of hits: 12, setno 22
03:21 dcook Search was a success.
03:21 dcook Received SearchResponse.
03:21 dcook Sent searchRequest.
03:21 dcook Z> find @attr 1=1016 @attr 4=6 "traumatologie-UPA"
03:21 eythian in what way?
03:18 dcook I've been told that Solr does the same thing
03:18 dcook Mmm, the hyphen just splits the terms
03:16 dcook Looks like Colin might have been wrong
03:16 dcook Hmm...
02:54 dcook Hmm, so it looks like ICU uses a hyphen as a truncation marker of some kind..
02:50 dcook It returns the fields where your search marches
02:50 dcook Oh... "zebra::snippet" is kind of cool
02:41 dcook Hmm, zebra::index is actually not that useful of an element set really..
02:36 dcook Finally...
02:36 dcook Huzzah
02:36 dcook Bleargh..
02:31 dcook Let's see how crafty I can get..
02:31 dcook On the plus side, I've definitely determined that GRS1 (at least in 3.8) uses koha-conf.xml and not retrieval-info-bib-grs1.xml for its configuration..
02:29 dcook I knew I should've studied Arabic back in uni... :p
02:29 dcook At least not last time I looked
02:29 dcook Arabic support isn't so great these days...
02:29 eythian ah
02:29 dcook yeah, it's an old install that can't be upgraded due to language issues :(
02:29 eythian it
02:29 eythian removing
02:29 eythian err
02:29 eythian there's been talk of deprecating it
02:28 dcook And GRS1 is a pain in the butt...
02:27 eythian erk
02:23 dcook So "99-22" will return "9922"
02:23 dcook well, nothing
02:23 dcook which turns it into ""
02:22 dcook Except when preceded by a number as per words-icu.xml
02:21 dcook It really does look like hyphens truncate the rest of the search string
02:21 dcook Man ICU is a pain..
01:40 dcook Hmm, getting closer
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01:40 dcook @wunder syd
01:40 huginn dcook: I've exhausted my database of quotes
01:40 dcook @syd
01:33 eythian crikey
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01:33 eythian @wunder nzwn
01:26 rangi cya
01:25 Francesca see you later!
01:24 rangi i get an email when you do a merge request so ill spot it
01:23 rangi sweet
01:19 Francesca anyways I have to go now, but I will most likely push some changes up tomorrow or the day after, when I've had a chance to try and fix all the weird things that are happening right now
01:18 Francesca Soo the css is doing some pretty wacky things, but I should hopefully be able to fix it
01:03 rangi awesome
01:02 Francesca ok that works
01:01 rangi yep
01:01 Francesca I think so... I'll try it and see shall I?
01:00 rangi if that makes sense?
01:00 rangi then make them to index.tt and commit that
01:00 rangi to check how it looks
01:00 rangi you can make the changes to index.html
01:00 rangi however
01:00 rangi not sure how you can on windows
00:59 Francesca so how do I run it?
00:59 rangi hmm you can't
00:58 Francesca do I run create-score.pl in the browser?
00:58 rangi then it will show up
00:58 Francesca ok
00:58 rangi to regenerate the index.html
00:58 Francesca ah
00:58 rangi create_score.pl
00:58 rangi you need to run
00:58 rangi once you edit the .tt file
00:58 Francesca hmmm xampp doesn't seem to acknowledge my changes...
00:43 dcook Good catch Colin Campbell... http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipermail/zebralist/2013-August/002576.html
00:42 rangi cool
00:40 Francesca I can run the scoreboard via xammp so I can test before you make any changes
00:38 rangi sweet
00:37 Francesca I'll come back to it when I get set up with a vm again
00:35 rangi yeah, would need it running, maybe later when we have a virtual machine or something
00:35 Francesca yup I can do that
00:35 Francesca shame about the hea=app page. I was going to update the colour scheme to match the other pages, and add the favicon
00:34 rangi to the main koha site, and the dashboard etc
00:34 rangi maybe add some links across the top
00:34 Francesca yeah I've got that
00:34 rangi which i think you cloned already?
00:33 rangi maybe you could try http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/
00:33 Francesca yeah... just found that out
00:30 rangi its an app not a set of pages, so hmm yeah might be tricky to run under XAMPP
00:28 Francesca I don't know if it'll work since I actually have no idea how to set it up
00:23 Francesca I'll copy it to my usb now
00:23 Francesca ok
00:23 rangi but they will all be in the views dir
00:22 rangi ahh probably need to see if you can get it up and running first
00:22 Francesca the webpage I'm gonna do some styling on? the hea-app one?
00:20 rangi hmm? for?
00:17 Francesca hey rangi you don't know what file I'd be looking for do you?
00:14 Francesca cloning now
00:14 Francesca sweet
00:12 rangi exactly
00:07 Francesca I clone off my branch right? not the one I forked from orignally
00:06 rangi cool :) worth a try :)
00:06 Francesca and I'm going to try running it off xammp on my usb to check changes are working
00:05 rangi sweet
00:05 Francesca I got github set up yesterday, and have uploaded my ssh key, so will just clone in
00:04 rangi hi Francesca
00:03 dcook yo Francesca
00:03 Francesca hello!
00:02 * Francesca waves
00:02 cait dcook++
00:02 cait hi Francesca - night all :)
00:01 dcook Anything for you, cait ;)
00:01 dcook I know Zebra reasonably well I think though
00:01 dcook As for cindy, I don't know enough about the Koha code
00:01 cait thx for taking the time
00:00 dcook Yeah, I hope I helped a bit in any case :)
00:00 cait too late here
00:00 dcook But that might be totally different
00:00 cait i will do that tomorrow night
00:00 dcook No, that's true
00:00 cait but that does not explain why cindy's installation si broken
00:00 dcook Or "upgrade"
00:00 cait yeah
00:00 cait itis there
00:00 dcook cait: I'm thinking you might want to re-install your dev koha