Time Nick Message 00:00 eythian a couple of days 00:03 dcook Monday or summit? 00:03 eythian yeah, that'd be about right 00:07 dcook not sure how that one slipped my radar :( 00:07 dcook Fortunately the bossman was on top of it 00:19 wizzyrea it hasn't gotten quite the coverage of heartbleed or poodle 00:19 * wizzyrea is glad, frankly 00:22 dcook Or what was the other one... shellshock? 00:22 dcook Yeah, the link I showed above made a point of saying how awful open source is 00:22 dcook I was all "errr..." 00:22 dcook Huzzah, Ubuntu 14.04 is already ahead of the curve 00:22 dcook That's nice 00:24 eythian oh yeah, patches came out fairly quickly 00:24 eythian it's not particulary end-of-worldy 00:24 dcook Nah, just work 00:24 dcook Or in this case not 00:41 wizzyrea yeah, but it's not like Windows where no one can look and so we have no idea what's going on back there. 00:41 wizzyrea people are looking now, that's a good thing. 00:41 wizzyrea short term, it'll look icky 00:41 wizzyrea long term, it'll be great. 00:45 dcook Exactly 00:45 dcook :) 00:49 dcook eythian: I was thinking more about bug 13632 00:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Use a translateable file instead of the database for managing permission descriptions 00:49 dcook Not sure how a hash would work there... 00:49 eythian neither 00:50 eythian but I was thinking maybe it could somehow 00:50 dcook Ahh 00:50 dcook I suppose the way would be having it as an external file that could be read into a hash by a TT plugin 00:50 eythian just so you get a list of something like "key => value" rather than a big switch/case. 00:50 eythian nah, translation issues there. 00:51 dcook a list? 00:51 wahanui it has been said that a list is safer 00:51 dcook If the file were stored in a language directory though, you could translate the values 00:51 dcook Just not the keys 00:51 eythian hmm 00:51 eythian maybe 00:51 dcook Although that sounds like a translation annoyance as well 00:51 eythian yeah 00:52 dcook I figure I'll see what tcohen says 00:52 dcook Happy to redo it whatever way makes the most sense 00:52 * dcook just wishes he already knew what that was :p 00:52 eythian I'd be happy enough with how it is if the alternatives don't solve the problem of "making it a bit easier" 00:52 dcook Cool :) 00:53 dcook I'm just going to fix up the handling of the file... as Jonathan and Marcel pointed out, I just didn't understand the difference between INCLUDE/PROCESS 00:53 dcook Even though in hindsight, it's fairly obvious 00:53 * dcook will blame it being a strange week for his craziness 00:53 dcook I think my cat should be fairly radioactive at this point in the day 00:53 dcook Not that he's at home... so that doesn't really explain it 00:57 eythian http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-rfc20-ascii-format-to-standard/ <-- fyi, ASCII is now an internet standard, you can start using it. 01:00 dcook \o/ 01:06 mtj rangi: ta, ill just tag my various bugs - i also deleted my reponse too 01:07 dcook A person can delete responses? 01:07 * dcook should probably delete the majority of his own 01:07 mtj ..deleted, before i clicked 'send' 01:08 dcook Ahhh 01:08 mtj peeps, anyone know of a way to dump SIP transactions, from kohas sipserver daemon? 01:09 mtj dpavlin has a proxy, that he uses for this task -> https://github.com/dpavlin/Biblio-SIP2 01:10 mtj im assuming its not something the sipserver does itself? - (else why would dpavlin make his proxy tool) 01:10 dcook Can't say I've ever worked on SIP, so I'm no help :( 01:11 mtj ..np, just thought i'd ask before i started the proxy setup 01:11 mtj (sounds like a handy feature for the sipserver, anywayz 01:16 eythian mtj: you can just look in syslog 01:16 eythian it's not nice, but it's easy 01:19 dcook Anyone have ideas for translating one hash into another hash? 01:19 dcook Like... 01:19 dcook Hmm, how best to ask that.. 01:20 dcook One to one values is all right. 01:20 dcook @later tell rangi Did you ever end up using that Net::OAuth2 module? Or doing anything with OAuth2? 01:20 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 01:21 dcook I have two OAuth2/OpenID Connect servers that return user info with slightly different hashes... which need to be mapped to something that Koha can use 01:21 dcook Or use a different sub for each different endpoint, but that seems suboptimal.. 01:23 eythian it depends what needs to change 01:23 eythian if it's just remapping key names, then i'ts pretty easy 01:23 dcook Well, "city", "state", "country" are keys in my Koha hash 01:23 dcook But the incoming hash uses Address->{City} 01:24 dcook Or rather.. 01:24 dcook $incoming->{Address}->{City} 01:24 eythian ah 01:24 dcook Whereas name is just $incoming->{Name} 01:24 eythian that's a bit more annoying 01:24 dcook Yep :/ 01:24 dcook I could just recurse through and look for a key of City but that loses the relationship it has with Address, which while not necessarily super important... is probably worthwhile in principle 01:25 eythian what are you mapping to? The borrower table? 01:25 dcook Yeah 01:25 eythian then you're going to have to flatten it anyway 01:26 dcook Well, that's what I'm trying to do, I suppose 01:26 dcook I hadn't thought of that term before though, that helps 01:26 eythian I'd flatten it so you get {Address_City} , then have a hash of from => to, and extract the key=>value from the original, and output it with newkey=>value taken from your mapping hash 01:26 eythian clear as mud? 01:27 dcook Super clear :) 01:27 eythian I wish there were a map { } function for hashes, not just lists 01:27 mtj thanks eythian, i see the syslog stuff in the sip config file... ill have a fiddle 01:27 dcook Well, I stopped reading halfway through what you said :P 01:27 dcook eythian: I was totally thinking the same thing yesterday 01:28 dcook Hmm, I think I had thought of flattening it, but that assumes that they'll never use a key of Address_City 01:28 * wizzyrea notes that the SIP convo has already occurred. Too late, as usual. 01:28 dcook Which... I suppose they wouldn't, or if they did... might be what you want anyway 01:28 eythian dcook: well, you need to know everything that might be used anyway 01:28 eythian otherwise you can't convert it 01:29 dcook Mmm, that's true 01:30 dcook Thanks for the advice, eythian :) 01:30 dcook eythian++ 01:35 dcook NYT... BBC... does everyone have at least one CPAN module? (http://search.cpan.org/~bbc/Hash-Flatten-1.19/lib/Hash/Flatten.pm) 01:36 mtj wizzyrea: sip convo has not offically finished :p 01:36 dcook I actually kind of like their syntax for flattened hashes 01:37 dcook Not a core module though.. 01:38 mtj wizzyrea: i got chatting with wnickc - it seems bywater are using ezproxy+OD, so having hit my SIP+OD bug 01:38 wizzyrea ezproxy is another problem child. 01:39 wizzyrea problem's on their end tho. 01:41 * dcook has read way too much about ezproxy lately 01:41 mtj fwiw ezproxy+OD seems to have a very similar auth bug too 01:41 dcook But I think it's food time. Don't want to get hangry...er. 01:50 eythian mtj: see my update. The bug is very obvious. It's not the fault of anything but our SIP daemon. 01:50 eythian There are other issues that ezproxy has, which are their fault 01:51 eythian and interact with this bug in ways that can be confusing 01:53 * eythian puts away his copy of the SIP2 specifications again 01:55 mtj ha, me too ^ 01:55 mtj good news.. i've just confirmed that my SIP bug, is a problem with OverDrive, not Koha 01:56 mtj the problem was as colin described 01:56 eythian Ah right 01:57 mtj koha says 'user correct, user's password incorrect'... OD signs in user to OD website, regardless :/ 01:57 eythian oh right 01:57 eythian yeah, that's a different bug than that bug talks about 01:58 eythian that's totally OD's fault 01:58 eythian also, ha ha OD. 01:58 mtj ie: asks for a password, then doesnt bother to check it's valid 01:58 eythian btw we're starting a (slow) process to ensure that all SIP communications happen over SSL. 01:59 eythian we have exproxy using stunnel quite happily now 01:59 eythian *ezproxy 01:59 eythian epoxy 02:00 mtj eythian++ nice work on that bug ^ 02:00 wizzyrea haha od indeed 02:04 eythian haha you can search for authorities by 'mainentry', or 'mainmainentry' among other things. 02:07 eythian also, there's an and_or field that's passed to SearchAuthorities. Guess what it does? 02:07 eythian That's right, nothing at all. 02:07 * eythian documents it as such and moves on 02:33 eythian dcook: jcamins: any idea how 'is' (attr 4=1, 5=100) differs from 'exact' (4=1, 5=100, 6=3)? 02:35 eythian or, where I'd go to see what those attr things mean... 02:44 dcook Hmm? 02:44 dcook bib-1 attributes 02:44 dcook http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1.html 02:45 dcook "6=3" is "complete field" 02:45 dcook That looks like the only difference 02:45 dcook The handling of that would then depend on Zebra 02:46 eythian oh, ta 02:46 dcook No worries 02:46 dcook Sometimes you might find something that doesn't exist on that webpage of course 02:46 dcook Then you'll have to look either on the Zebra docs or in the Koha files 02:47 dcook I think we adhere to the standard pretty well, but Zebra has a few special attributes 02:47 dcook Mostly to do with field weights and ranking, iirc 03:14 dcook Hmm... probably not a good thing that there can be two different notices with the same code.. 03:14 dcook Well, not the exact same. 03:14 dcook Different case. 03:14 dcook But I don't think a select query will tell the difference.. 03:15 dcook Ah, it's a different module, so it's not the same 04:13 dcook Huh... 04:14 dcook Turns out an item will show up in the Holds to Pull List... even if you couldn't have put a hold on it 04:14 dcook That's tricksy 04:15 dcook If you do a bib-level hold that is 04:16 eythian oh, that's a bit odd 04:16 dcook I'm trying to think if that could ever be desireable 04:17 dcook I would think not 04:17 dcook If you can't put it on hold, it shouldn't be on the holds to pull list, right? 04:18 dcook And shouldn't be available as an item to pull, if it's not holdable 04:20 dcook C4::Reserves is scary... 04:51 dcook Oh man... 04:56 dcook I think the epic SQL in pendingreserves.pl might be trying to be a bit too smart for its own good... 04:56 dcook It's also just awful in general.. 04:56 dcook Trying to create display and stuff as well.. 04:59 eythian erk 05:01 dcook It came up because "ebooks" are showing up in the holds to pull list :/ 05:01 dcook Mind you, the ebooks should probably not be sharing a bib record with a print item 05:01 dcook Which is probably why this doesn't come up too often 05:25 dcook I suppose it assumes a "notforloan" status of 0 is enough.. 06:15 dcook One of those days where you spent approximately 0 seconds on the issue you wanted to work on... 06:23 * magnuse waves 06:26 dcook yo magnuse 06:29 magnuse yo yo! 06:29 dcook You know, I often read your name as "mag-noose" :p 06:29 magnuse feel free :-) 06:30 dcook :D 07:06 cait morning #koha 07:12 bag morning cait 07:13 cait morning bag :) 07:24 magnuse bag: HI 07:24 bag magnuse: HI 07:24 wahanui bonjour, bag 07:25 magnuse cheese! 07:25 wahanui cheese is delicious, but cait just had butter. 07:25 magnuse lulz 07:25 bag magnuse: happy new year 07:25 magnuse happy new year to you too, bag! 07:26 magnuse how can you sell VPSes and not tell people how to log on to them? 07:27 magnuse bag: your marseille-entourage grows bigger every year? 07:27 magnuse nice! 07:27 bag heh - no one requested to go to kohacon this year - more requested to go to hackfest 07:28 bag perhaps next year I will be back to normal 07:28 bag but magnuse this year - the radest two are joining me (Sonja and Ginny)… excited for you to meet them 07:28 magnuse nah, just keep adding more people! 07:29 magnuse cool 07:29 magnuse but that is not what the spreadsheet says? 07:29 magnuse unless those are nicknames... 07:29 bag heh they aren’t hacking (yet) 07:30 bag Sonja is my wife and Ginny is my daughter 07:30 magnuse ah hah! 07:30 magnuse very cool! 07:30 magnuse you said something about renting an appartment, so that was for the three of you 07:30 * magnuse is terrible with names 07:43 bag actually magnuse everyone from bywater is in the same apartment 07:43 bag I guess we’re a happy family ;) 07:46 marcelr hi #koha 07:51 reiveune hello 07:51 magnuse bag: a big appartment i hope, then :-) 07:51 bag me too 07:52 magnuse hehe 07:53 magnuse is it far from the biblibre office 07:54 * magnuse has some very happy memories of renting apartments in marseille 07:57 alex_a bonjour 08:17 fridolin hie all 08:38 * cait waves 08:40 * magnuse waves back 08:42 gaetan_B hello 08:42 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B 08:43 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Saint Victoret, France is 5.9°C (9:43 AM CET on January 29, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Falling). 08:43 paul_p mmm... it's more than 6° in Marseille... 08:45 paul_p (was 8 when I checked this morning) 08:50 magnuse hm, it says "Saint Victoret" - no ida where that is 08:50 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk 08:50 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 1.2°C (8:41 AM GMT on January 29, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.15 in 987 hPa (Falling). 08:54 cait @wunder Konstanz 08:54 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bodensee Konstanz City, Konstanz, Germany is 1.8°C (9:54 AM CET on January 29, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Falling). 09:03 magnuse @wunder boo 09:03 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (9:50 AM CET on January 29, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 28.82 in 976 hPa (Steady). 09:03 magnuse yeah, rather windy 09:08 magnuse ooh, norwegian winner of Bocuse d'Or :-) 09:09 cait hm? 09:09 magnuse http://www.bocusedor.com/bocuse-d-or-finale-2015-1 09:18 * magnuse takes a shot at signing off bug 13607 09:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13607 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Patron management API 09:20 magnuse oh btw, would it make sense to add two things to the marseille spreadsheet: proposed presentations/talks and ideas for presentations/talks that we would like to hear? 09:21 ashimema magnuse.. did you read my comments on bug 13607 09:21 ashimema happy with my last point of.. 'lets not hold this dev up.. but we'll hopefully replace it fiarly soon with a nicer restful one' 09:21 ashimema if you sign it off.. I'll happily qa it ;) 09:22 magnuse cool 09:23 magnuse yeah, i think it makes sense to get it in, even if we are conspiring to deprecate svc 09:23 magnuse eythian probably has some valid reason for wanting it in koha 09:23 magnuse this comment from him made me lol: "We could even add support for 'format=usmarc' if you want to use that as your formatting method. I'm sure someone somewhere likes that idea. They would be a crazy person." 09:26 Joubu norway++ # Bocuse d'or 09:27 magnuse merci! 09:27 Joubu the USA guy looks quite irritated on the picture at the bottom of the main page 09:28 Joubu He is looking at the norvegian trophy, the gold one :) 09:28 magnuse hehe 09:55 cait phone conf... bbl 09:56 paxed hmph. well, can't install on debian 7.8 according to the INSTALL.debian file. 10:01 paxed dependency hell. 10:57 paxed well. this is fun. looks like link_bibs_to_authorities.pl seems to consider only beginning of string when matching auths. so, eg. "Pohjois-Karjala" will be linked to authority "Pohjois-Karjala-projekti" 10:58 paxed the example yesterday, "Peru", was matched to "perunkarvatonkoira" ... 10:59 paxed can anyone test if that happens on master? i don't have master installed. 11:03 paxed and it apparently also matches at the end, because "West" for matched to "Finnish-American Historical Society of the West" 11:03 paxed s/for/was/ 11:50 magnuse hm, looks like editing a patron on 3.18.3 gives an error if the form you are editing in does not include the fields for username and password. the error displayed is "The following fields are wrong. Please fix them. Username/password already exists." 11:50 magnuse anyone else seen that 11:50 magnuse ? 11:51 magnuse so if you are on the patron detail page and click on the grey button, edit and save - it works 11:52 magnuse but if you are on the patron detail page and click on the link under the name, main address, primary email etc, do some changes and then save you get the error above 11:59 magnuse ah bug 13602 11:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13602 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Username/password already exists when editing borrower attributes and messaging preferences 11:59 * magnuse slaps himself around a bit for missing that the first time 12:07 Joubu magnuse: hum, maybe should we raise the priority of this bug to major? 12:13 magnuse yeah, might be a good idea 12:14 magnuse but on the other hand, there is an easy workaround: just click the edit button, so you get the complete form 12:15 cait magnuse: there is a bug eport i think from kivi 12:15 cait ah, yep that one 12:15 * cait shoudl read to the end 12:19 magnuse :-) 12:20 magnuse i'll see if i can sign that off this evening 12:20 magnuse if noone beats me to it, that is 13:08 DanSwano cait or anybody else? 13:11 DanSwano because there is not enough russian translations in web interface I decided to recreate library. First I install Russian language and then run web installer, choose "Unimarc" and select some optional checkboxes. 13:13 DanSwano during data addition I have an errors, which can be read at pastebin: http://pastebin.com/eAfJ3dwW 13:15 DanSwano the text is in Russian, you can use Google translate but the most of it is not requires translation 13:15 cait DanSwano: russian installer files are not really maintained, bit worried you might run into problems 13:16 cait DanSwano: maybe compare the translated files with the english ones 13:16 cait to see where the differences are 13:16 oleonard @wunder 45701 13:16 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is -1.1°C (7:31 AM EST on January 29, 2015). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Rising). Freezing Rain Advisory in effect until 11 am EST this morning... 13:16 DanSwano cait, where these files are located? 13:16 cait DanSwano: you can translate most of those via the interface or they are nt meant to translated 13:16 cait installer/data/mysql/ru-RU 13:16 cait or en 13:17 cait you can also compare to de-DE - to see which values shoudl be translated 13:17 cait de-DE shoudl be up to date 13:18 DanSwano cait, is it possible to manually add English files to replace some Russian files which are incorrect? 13:19 cait youcoudl copy the enlgish files over 13:19 DanSwano cait, or manually add them via mysql cli? 13:19 cait to replace the broken russian one 13:20 cait yeah, see which tables are changed and do that manually 13:20 cait could also do it the other way around 13:20 cait install english and then clean up where you find good translations 13:21 cait magnuse: do you remember the mysql bug opl filed? looking for it but don't fnd it 13:21 magnuse something to do with the version of mysql? 13:21 cait tried that 13:21 cait but yep 13:21 cait i mean i looked for version and mysql, but no luck so far 13:22 DanSwano cait, thanks, I'll try to add english files manually 13:24 magnuse cait: bug 13523? 13:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13523 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , AddBiblio fails on mysql with STRICT_TRANS_TABLES 13:24 cait yes thx! 13:58 tcohen morning 14:03 magnuse ¡hola tcohen! 14:05 Shane-S Is there any issue going from 3.12.05.000 to 3.18.X? 14:05 Shane-S I installed from packages 14:07 Shane-S Second question...how can I export patrons...I need their names and barcodes to match up with our inventory to assign ppl, and I want to make a label with an items serials number and the patron barcode so I can enter it in Koha and use it checkout/tracking 14:08 Shane-S Even if I just have their barcode #, I have 3 of 9 font to make the barcodes 14:32 David_H Quick question: how do I backup my database before an upgrade? 14:32 Shane-S Can anyone help me get my patrons names and barcodes out, not sure how to extract that information. 14:33 Shane-S David_H last time I asked that they said there is a /backup/ folder 14:33 Shane-S I guessing /etc/koha/backup..but I have to search to check 14:34 David_H ok, thank you 14:35 Shane-S David_H: If you installed form packages... http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-run-backups 14:36 David_H oh good, I'll check that out 14:37 magnuse if you installed with the packages you will have backups in /var/spool/koha/<instancename> 14:37 nengard Hi David_H 14:37 nengard and all 14:37 magnuse but if you have an active installation you probably want to do a new backup right before you upgrade 14:37 nengard I love seeing David_H in here more :) 14:37 magnuse hiya nengard 14:38 * Shane-S retracts all previous info...appears old and/or bad 14:40 magnuse oh definitely look at the commands provided by the packages 14:41 nengard magnuse are you coming to the hackfest? 14:41 David_H lol...David's been watching over my shoulder and kibitzing. I've been acting as his tech support 14:41 nengard You're not david? 14:41 nengard who are you? :) hehe 14:42 David_H lol...I'm Greg...David's typist apparently. He tells me what to say and I type it 14:42 Shane-S transcriber sounds more professional 14:43 magnuse nengard: yup - looking forward to meeting you and the rest of the bywater posse 14:43 David_H oooh..."transcriber"...that sounds like a job promotion 14:44 * magnuse wanders off to make dinner 14:44 nengard Nice to "meet" you Greg - David is an awesome guy :) 14:44 Shane-S grr...keeps saying local host times out...time for an IRC client I guess 14:45 nengard and magnuse YIPPEEE 14:45 nengard :) 14:45 carmen morning #koha :) 14:47 Shane-S what can I add to my SQL report to filter patrons on category type of KIDS 14:48 Shane-S code is "K" 14:48 * Shane-S sighs...have to go troubleshoot Comcast...keep failing over to Verizon. 14:50 Shane-S would it be... WHERE categorycode = "K" ? 15:02 Shane-S sorry I didn't see if anyone answers...is WHERE categorycode = "K" accurate? 15:04 Joubu Shane-S: you can check the category codes on /admin/categorie.pl 16:04 reiveune bye 16:56 * cait waves 16:56 * JesseM waves back at cait 17:41 gaetan_B bye 21:12 * cait waves 21:12 nengard hola cait 21:12 cait hi nengard 21:18 eythian hi 21:22 nengard :) 22:12 eythian wahanui: alot is <reply>http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D_Z-D2tzi14/S8TRIo4br3I/AAAAAAAACv4/Zh7_GcMlRKo/s1600/ALOT.png 22:12 wahanui OK, eythian. 22:15 pianohacker alot of what? 22:16 eythian It's an alot. 22:16 pianohacker alot of rebases? :( 22:16 eythian no, it's a picture of an alot. 22:16 pianohacker I guess alot is better than me at rebases too 22:16 eythian you can draw the alot of rebases if you like 22:16 eythian I don't know what it looks like :) 22:17 pianohacker yeah, I wasn't quite sure on that either... 22:43 * dcook chuckles at scrollback 23:05 dcook It really does seem like every CPAN module has been packaged for Debian... 23:06 pianohacker some things in life are in the repos. For everything else, there's dh-make-perl 23:06 dcook no doubt, eh? 23:07 dcook I'm debating downloading Hash::Flatten or writing my own... 23:07 * pianohacker is not sure if that particular joke translates :) 23:07 dcook pianohacker: the style sounds familiar 23:09 eythian dcook: no, no they haven't :) 23:09 dcook hehe 23:09 dcook eythian: I recall you mentioning that you'd packaged a few for Debian as they hadn't :) 23:09 eythian https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=robin@catalyst.net.nz <-- dcook 23:10 eythian there's also more in the pipeline I think 23:10 dcook I think that's the link you showed me last time :) 23:10 dcook MARC::Transform? 23:11 eythian yeah, I can't remember what that's used for 23:11 dcook Maybe the importer template things? 23:11 eythian could be 23:11 dcook Sounds familiar 23:11 eythian hmm, not in use in Koha anyway 23:11 dcook No? 23:11 wahanui http://i.imgur.com/hVVuP.jpg 23:11 eythian maybe I didn't it for someone for some particular reason 23:12 eythian or it was something that never made it in 23:12 dcook Hmm, dunno. Looks like a BibLibre thing 23:12 eythian oh, yeah 23:12 eythian it is 23:12 eythian now I remember 23:12 dcook How much does Catalyst customize Koha installs? 23:12 dcook What I mean is... 23:13 dcook How much do you use Perl modules that aren't installed with normal Koha? 23:13 eythian as little as possible is the probable answer. 23:13 eythian oh 23:13 eythian very little 23:13 dcook Same. I think the only extra ones we've included so far have been for extra auth options 23:13 eythian we'll sometimes have bug fixes and small extra features in our branches, but we try not to as much as possible 23:13 dcook Which is why I'm a bit hesitant to use this Hash::Flatten, even though it's perfect 23:14 dcook Yeah, that reminds me that I need to find a block of time to upstream as much as I can.. 23:14 eythian It's in debian already, I don't mind :) 23:14 dcook I don't know if I'll be upstreaming this change anytime soon, but I suppose it would be easy to include that dependency.. 23:15 pianohacker dcook: as long as you don't do what I did and promise on eythian's behalf that he'd debianize a CPAN module I was using in a patch :) 23:15 dcook hehe 23:15 eythian heh that is frowned upon ;) 23:15 * eythian -> lunch 23:15 dcook I'll do my best to avoid that one ;) 23:15 dcook Oh man... lunch would be so good right now 23:15 * dcook says having just eaten breakfast maybe an hour ago 23:15 eythian it is lunchtime... 23:16 dcook Hmm, maybe eating vitamins will make me feel better 23:16 dcook eythian: If I had my way, 10-2 would be lunch time 23:16 dcook If I weren't so tall, I would think I were a hobbit 23:23 dcook You know... when I look at "koha_perl_deps.pl", it doesn't look like Koha really has "THAT" many Perl dependencies 23:28 eythian dcook: look at debian/control 23:28 dcook I have a few times, and it seemed a lot longer... 23:28 eythian it uses the list in C4::Installer::whateverit'scalled.pm 23:29 dcook C4::Installer::PerlDependencies 23:29 dcook I'm looking at that now :) 23:29 dcook Well, I guess I'm looking at 3.14.5 23:29 dcook Looks like a lot of modules have been added since then 23:30 dcook Or these aren't in alphabetical order so maybe that's why it's deceiving..