Time  Nick         Message
00:18 BobB         happy new year #koha
00:23 eythian      same to you, BobB :)
00:24 BobB         another year of this  :)
00:26 BobB         mtj!  How are you?
01:14 mtj          hi #koha, happy year new to everyone
01:15 mtj          um, new year even
01:19 rangi        hi Francesca, i pulled your changes
01:19 Francesca    sweet thanks
01:22 Francesca    hmm still doesn't look quite right. I'll try a few more changes and see if that helps
01:47 Francesca    hey Chris I've pushed some changes up now
02:01 zetty        hello
02:01 wahanui      what's up, zetty
02:01 zetty        i'm facing a prob dealing with  koha
02:02 zetty        can anybody help me
02:05 eythian      ...not any more...
02:05 eythian      zetty: what is the problem?
02:05 wahanui      hmmm... the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
02:05 eythian      shush, wahanui
02:05 wahanui      eythian: what?
02:11 zetty        why i cant retrieve my record
02:12 eythian      zetty: you'll have to provide more information.
02:14 zetty        ok..it's like this
02:14 zetty        i just started using koha last week
02:14 zetty        and i start doing my cataloging into koha
02:15 zetty        when i serach back the record..it appears (1 result(s) found in catalog, 0 result(s) found in reservoir)
02:15 zetty        what does this mean?
02:15 eythian      how have you installed Koha?
02:15 eythian      (tarball, Debian packages, etc.)
02:17 zetty        it's not me..it's my IT technician who'd install
02:17 zetty        i can't edit my records
02:17 eythian      hmm. Most likely the search engine part is either not getting records added to it, or it's not running.
02:18 eythian      your IT person will have to have a look at that.
02:21 eythian      dcook: y'about?
02:22 rangi        Francesca: sorry just got a chance to pull
02:22 rangi        lost the link colours
02:23 Francesca    oh whoops
02:23 zetty        my IT person was not expertise in koha
02:23 zetty        he just help me to install koha
02:24 Francesca    rangi the links in the body only appear to pick up part of the css. Any ideas why?
02:24 zetty        anybody have Teamviewer software so that you can look into my probs?
02:25 dcook        eythian: a bit
02:25 rangi        hmm nope, i wonder if another css (or inline styles) are overriding it Francesca
02:25 eythian      dcook: any idea how to solve "15:21:07-05/01 zebraidx(1502) [warn] No such record type: dom./home/robin/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config-marc.xml"
02:25 Francesca    Is there another style sheet floating around somewhere?
02:26 rangi        could be, the firebug tools should tell you if you inspect element with it
02:26 dcook        eythian: Hmm, didn't you encounter this a little while ago?
02:26 eythian      dcook: yeah, I never figured it out, but now I need to be able to search.
02:27 dcook        Ahh, I gotcha
02:27 dcook        Hmm
02:27 rangi        zetty: what actually is your problem, you dont understand that message? That means you have done a search in the cataloguing search (not the main search) and it has found 1 result
02:28 zetty        yes rangi
02:28 Francesca    rangi: I'm using chrome
02:28 eythian      zetty: ah yeah, good point, I read it backwards. So you are getting results. What is wrong with the results you are getting?
02:29 rangi        Francesca: you might want to try it in firefox .. or use whatever the chrome tools are .. i dunno what they are tho
02:29 zetty        the result shows that 1result(s) found in catalog, 0 result(s) found in reservoir
02:29 dcook        eythian: Is this relevant? http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2011-September/030492.html
02:29 rangi        zetty: yes, what is wrong with that?
02:29 Francesca    hmm maybe I should install firefox and try it there. I'm pushing something up which might help now
02:29 dcook        eythian: Now that I think about it, I think I might have had the same problem and that might have bene it..
02:29 zetty        but when i try to edit the records
02:30 zetty        it appears Software error
02:30 eythian      dcook: ta, will have a look
02:30 zetty        rangi: Can't call method "title" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl line 838.
02:31 dcook        eythian: Let me know how you go :)
02:32 rangi        zetty: what happens if you add a new record?
02:32 rangi        or edit a different record, does that happen on all of them, or just one?
02:32 zetty        it happen on all of them
02:33 zetty        the new record can be entered as usual..but when i retrieve again..it seems that i never add any record
02:33 Francesca    rangi: I've pushed something up, just pull it when you've got time and I'll use firefox to try and figure out the promblem
02:33 rangi        zetty: what version of koha?
02:33 rangi        go to the about page, it will tell you
02:33 rangi        thanks Francesca
02:34 rangi        have pulled it
02:35 zetty        rangi: 3.6
02:35 rangi        hmm that is very old
02:36 rangi        do you know why they chose to install that?
02:36 eythian      dcook: no dice :/
02:36 zetty        rangi: any newest edition?
02:36 rangi        what version of 3.6 is it? 3.6.what
02:36 rangi        yes many more
02:36 dcook        eythian: dinger :/
02:36 dcook        eythian: So this is when you're doing a rebuild_zebra.pl?
02:36 eythian      yeah
02:37 dcook        Hm
02:37 rangi        3.18.2 is the latest stable version
02:38 Francesca    rangi: the stuff I pushed up didn't work, I'm debugging in firefox now to see if that helps
02:39 rangi        thanks
02:40 dcook        eythian: Mine says 13:39:18-05/01 zebraidx(22978) 4037bd2eed7f0000 [log] add dom./home/dcook/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config.xml /tmp/IwoZhY0eI9/biblio/exported_records 2                179076
02:41 dcook        I think I'm using 3.14.5 zebra config though..
02:41 eythian      dcook: where do you see that?
02:41 eythian      this is a fairly fresh master dev install
02:42 dcook        This is when I do a rebuild_zebra.pl -b -x -r -v -v -v
02:42 eythian      'k, I'll try that
02:42 jcamins      eythian: I'm going to speculate the problem is bib_index_mode being wrong.
02:42 jcamins      Then I'm going to go to sleep.
02:42 dcook        Hmm, it might just use a different dom-config file because of that -x flag
02:42 dcook        eythian: I imagine you were indexing it as regular marc rather than marcxml?
02:42 eythian      it fails in much the same way in both cases
02:43 eythian      it just points to a different dom-config name
02:43 dcook        jcamins: Yeah, I figure it's worth doing a re-install as I'm thinking a config option might be wrong somewhere
02:43 eythian      koha-conf.xml: <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode>
02:43 jcamins      Oh well. It was a nice idea.
02:43 jcamins      Good night
02:43 wahanui      Don't go, jcamins. Stay a while. Stay forever.
02:45 dcook        I'm trying to think where record type is even set...
02:45 dcook        zebra-biblios.cfg, I thought
02:46 dcook        eythian: This might be useful http://librarypolice.com/wiki.koha.org/faqzebra.html
02:47 eythian      I have a theory
02:47 eythian      I'll let you know if it works :)
02:47 dcook        :D
02:47 dcook        Huzzah, my chef run worked.
02:48 Francesca    rangi: had a look in firefox and webpage is defiantly not picking up the css. There doesn't appear to be another style sheet around so I'll try different code to see if it will work
02:48 eythian      yep
02:48 eythian      found it
02:49 eythian      the modulePath was wrong, but what I fixed it to was also wrong
02:49 rangi        ooh, write that down eythian, cos i ran into this the other day too
02:50 dcook        eythian: Ahh, I wondered if that might be the case
02:51 dcook        What did you end up with in the end?
02:51 zetty        rangi: i'm sorry..this is exactly my koha version ---> 3.16.05.001
02:52 eythian      dcook: rangi: just making a 'zebra troubleshooting' page on the wiki
02:52 rangi        zetty: ahh thats better, that isn't so old
02:53 rangi        but im sorry i dont know why it isnt working, can you see the records when you search in the OPAC ?
02:53 dcook        eythian++
02:54 dcook        I need to make a page talking about PQF and such at some point... I'll link it to that one you're making
02:54 dcook        I think zebra-biblios.cfg was set to /usr/lib/idzebra-2.0, but we actually had the modules in... /usr/local/lib/idzebra-2.0
02:54 dcook        Or maybe that's normal. I remember the lib/lib64 issue before..
02:55 zetty        rangi: when i search, it appears (An error has occurred  Error 404  This error means that the link was broken and that the page doesn't exist. To report this error, you can email the Koha Administrator. Return to the catalog home page.)
02:55 rangi        yeah i suspect you need to do a zebra reindex
02:56 rangi        zetty: was it installed using packages?
02:57 zetty        i gave him this link to refer when istalling koha (http://linuxhalwa.blogspot.com/2012/01/koha-installation-on-ubuntu-1004.html)
02:58 eythian      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Zebra <-- dcook, rangi
02:58 rangi        cool thanks
02:58 rangi        zetty: on the command line (in a terminal or something) on the koha server
02:59 rangi        what happens when you run
02:59 rangi        sudo koha-list
03:02 zetty        rangi: meaning? i'm sorry coz i just know hot to use koha..but not what;s inside koha
03:02 zetty        *how
03:02 rangi        ahh you cant really fix or debug this, if you cant get to the commandline on the server
03:02 zetty        i just instruct him to install
03:03 zetty        anyway thanks a lot rangi
03:03 rangi        no problem, sorry i couldnt be of more help
03:03 zetty        i will let him get in touch with u guys
03:04 zetty        since he's the only one who have authority for the server part
03:08 dcook        Nice one, eythian
03:24 eythian      I do wonder how the packages make it work though.
04:13 Francesca_   rangi are you there?
04:14 eythian      Francesca_: he's not up here, may have left
04:14 Francesca_   oh right. Thanks eythian
06:32 Francesca    rangi: if you're there, did you pull the changes? Because the hover feature on the links is now working, which means its reading the style sheet yay!
06:41 rangi        yep
07:20 Francesca_   rangi: have pushed some changes up, can you pull when you're able too? I think I may have fixed the problem
07:43 reiveune     hello
07:45 rangi        Francesca_: try that
07:52 alex_a       bonjour
07:53 Francesca_   sweet body links are fixed! now onto other layout issues
07:56 rangi        the search the logs link still looks a bit wrong
08:05 Francesca_   looks fine on my computer
08:05 Francesca_   what browser are you using?
08:06 rangi        firefox
08:07 Francesca_   I'm in firefox as well and it looks fine. Hover and colours aren't quite working in chrome though- I think its because I've clicked on the links
08:07 rangi        i think its just because its to the left
08:08 Francesca_   oh yeah I'm trying to fix that
08:08 Francesca_   But the colours and the hover effect were what I was trying to get working before
08:08 Francesca_   does that look ok?
08:10 rangi        seems to be ok yep
08:11 Francesca_   sweet
08:11 Francesca_   I'm trying to fix the allingment issues now
08:14 cait         good morning #koha
08:14 ashimema     Good morning #koha
08:18 gaetan_B     happy new year #koha :)
08:19 cait         Gutes neues Jahr :)
08:19 Francesca_   rangi: I've pushed something up, no idea if its going to work but can you try it?
08:19 Francesca_   Happy new year :)
08:19 cait         Happy new year :)
08:20 cait         Francesca_: i think he might be gone already, will probably see it later - or you could leave him a later with @later tell rangi message
08:21 rangi        still here for a little bit
08:21 Francesca_   ok
08:23 Francesca_   If you're able to can you pull the changes?
08:23 rangi        yep
08:23 Francesca_   sweet thanks
08:24 rangi        not seeing any new changes
08:24 Francesca_   nether am I
08:24 rangi        no when i went to pull it said it was already up to date
08:25 rangi        are you sure you pushed?
08:25 Francesca_   pretty sure cas my code is showing up
08:25 Francesca_   oh right
08:25 Francesca_   weird
08:25 Francesca_   hold on
08:26 Francesca_   uhh it just kicked me out , trying again now
08:26 Francesca_   ok its pushed up now
08:27 sophie_m     Hello #koha and happy new year !
08:27 Francesca_   happy new year to you too :)
08:27 sophie_m     thanks Francesca_
08:29 Francesca_   rangi did you see the changes I pushed up?
08:30 rangi        mismatched tags
08:30 rangi        http://irc.koha-community.org/
08:30 rangi        cos its in strict mode
08:30 rangi        you need to make sure your tags are in the right order
08:31 Francesca_   right sorry
08:31 rangi        so you cant go <div> <article> </div> </article>
08:31 rangi        etc
08:31 rangi        they need to match
08:32 Francesca_   yeah sorry must have left one out by accident
08:32 Francesca_   fixing now
08:32 rangi        no worries
08:36 Francesca_   pushed something up, error should be fixed now hopefuly
08:36 rangi        2 secs
08:37 Francesca_   k
08:37 rangi        still not happy
08:38 rangi        ah i see it
08:38 Francesca_   I'm sure the tags match
08:38 Francesca_   what have I done
08:39 Francesca_   I'm kinda confused now...
08:39 rangi        try that
08:40 Francesca_   ok that works
08:41 Francesca_   do you like this layout or do you prefer it side by side?
08:41 rangi        hmm not sure .. waht do others think of http://irc.koha-community.org/
08:42 cait         i think... i like it
08:43 ashimema     I can't remember what it looked like before ;)
08:43 Francesca_   sweet. I guess my issue is that I find the page looks kinda empty. But theres no other content to be added so
08:44 Francesca_   uhh it didn't have any styling on it before I started working on this page
08:44 ashimema     haha.. I see..
08:44 ashimema     so it certainly looks better ;)
08:45 Francesca_   its taken ages to get to this stage so I'm happy that everything looks nice and works which is more than it has been at times
08:47 Francesca_   hey rangi since I've kinda finished work on this page is there another one I can do?
08:48 rangi        http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2015-01-05
08:48 rangi        thats the today page
08:48 rangi        dont want to change the style too much on there
08:48 rangi        but having the koha banner at the top might be good
08:49 cait         yeah that might be nice
08:49 Francesca_   I can add a header, nav and footer and leave it at that
08:49 rangi        sounds good
08:49 Francesca_   If it reads from the same css file it'll just pick up the styles automatically
08:49 Francesca_   right gotta go find this file
08:50 Francesca_   you don't happen to know what folder this page is in do you?
08:50 Francesca_   oh and add a favicon. Must have matching favicons
08:50 cait         :)
08:50 cait         Francesca_++
08:50 rangi        nope
08:51 rangi        probably day.tmpl
08:52 Francesca_   ok
08:53 Francesca_   ahhh so much javascript! This could be fun
09:01 Francesca_   ok pushed header and favicon changes up. Can't work out what part is meant to be nav so left it for now
09:02 rangi        try that
09:04 Francesca_   it hasn't picked up the favicon but the header works fine
09:06 rangi        path to it is wrong
09:06 rangi        The requested URL /koha/favicon.ico was not found on this server.
09:06 Francesca_   huh
09:06 rangi        its cos the path is relative you might have to make it /favicon.ico in the html
09:07 Francesca_   ok. But the code thats in the file currently worked fine with the other page, index.tmpl
09:08 rangi        yes because that isnt in /koha/
09:09 rangi        eg http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2015-01-05 vs http://irc.koha-community.org/
09:09 rangi        so a relative link in that case isnt so bad
09:10 Francesca_   trying your suggestion now, have pushed it up
09:12 Francesca_   woohoo we have a favicon!
09:13 Francesca_   and on that note I'm off to bed. Night guys!
09:14 cait         night :)
09:15 cait         happy new year paul_p
09:16 paul_p       happy new year cait & everyone on #koha
09:21 marcelr      hi again #koha
09:23 cait         hi marcelr - and happy new year :)
09:23 marcelr      :)
09:24 cait         Joubu++
09:24 rangi        right going to sleep
09:25 cait         night rangi
09:25 cait         sleep well
09:27 cait         Joubu: could you take a look at 9848 maybe=
09:27 cait         not sure how to run the tests
09:27 Joubu        cait: sorry, but I don't know neither...
09:28 cait         ah
09:28 cait         ashimema: maybe you could ask Colin to take a look?
09:52 ashimema     he's going to take a look today
09:52 cait         cool thx!
09:52 cait         trying to get the 'bugs' out of the queue
10:44 cait         khall_away: around?
10:50 cait         @wunder Konstanz
10:50 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.7°C (11:50 AM CET on January 05, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.54 in 1034 hPa (Steady).
11:20 cait         lunch time :)
11:21 ashimema     oh cool..
11:21 ashimema     debian packages now claim to be 'oldstable', 'stable' and 'unstable'
11:26 ashimema
11:32 ashimema     Joubu about?
11:32 Joubu        ashimema: yep
11:33 ashimema     quick question for you.. just spotted that in the sandboxes we use zebraqueue.sh as aposed to rebuildzebra.pl  wondered what the difference was and why we do it that way..
11:33 * ashimema   admits he's never seen zebraqueue.sh before :s
11:37 ashimema     in fact.. I can't find zebraqueue.sh anywhere other than in the cron line..
11:37 Joubu        hum yes, we don't have this script in our repo :)
11:37 ashimema     wondering if I'm going mad now.. I'm sure searching is working in my sandboxes
11:37 ashimema     lol.. am I going mad then
11:38 Joubu        ashimema: it's outside the repo, in ~/bin/zebraqueue.sh
11:38 Joubu        ashimema: you should have it on your sandboxes too, isn't it?
11:39 ashimema     hmm.. no in my setup it's not.. at least I don't think it is.
11:40 pastebot     "Joubu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "bin/zebraqueue.sh" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/336
11:40 ashimema     in the install sandbox instructions.. it says the path is ~/koha-dev/bin/
11:40 Joubu        ashimema: ^
11:41 ashimema     Cheers..
11:41 ashimema     no one has ever reported zera not working in our snadboxes here..
11:41 ashimema     lol
11:42 Joubu        ashimema: Don't you get mails from cron?
11:42 Joubu        if the script does not exist, it should
11:42 ashimema     I do yup.. that's what made me spot this..
11:45 ashimema     now I'm really confused..
11:45 ashimema     non of my cron email complain about ti missing in the first place..
11:46 ashimema     and our search does appear to work as expected..
11:46 ashimema     I must be going mad
11:47 ashimema     so.. why do you use zebraqueue.sh instead of rebuild_zebra.pl directly?
11:47 * cait       sends peanut-butter-chocolate-chip-cookies
11:47 Joubu        ashimema: no idea :-/
11:48 ashimema     haha.. I see..
11:48 ashimema     think I'll use rebuild_zebra directly here..
11:48 Joubu        ashimema: It was done like that before I add improvements
11:48 ashimema     will work nicer for our multi-tenant setup here.
11:49 Joubu        ashimema: yes, it should work too
11:49 ashimema     it appears to basically be a super trivial form of locking..
11:50 ashimema     only in a multi-tenant setup your much much more likely to be locked that way.. as it's just looking for a process id matching zebra.. any zebra..
11:50 ashimema     anywho.. all meat to the grinder ;)
11:50 ashimema     thanks Joubu
11:55 ashimema     will have a pull request for you in a few mins Joubu ;)
12:02 ashimema     https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/koha-contrib/commits/master
12:02 ashimema     I appear to be 30 commits ahead of Koha-Community:master.. looks like that repo is out of date with respect to the proper community git
12:14 gerundio     hi, I was asked to perform an update to koha's latest version
12:15 gerundio     I have a 3.14.08 package installation and "apt-cache madison koha-common" shows me the that the newest available version is 3.14.10
12:16 gerundio     is it possible to perform an upgrade via packages to 3.18.x in debian right now?
12:17 ashimema     sounds like your tracking oldstable
12:18 gerundio     yes, it confirms, the repository is "http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ oldstable/main amd64 Packages"
12:18 ashimema     I'd upgrade to 3.14.10 first.. (apt-get upgrade), then I'de update the source to track 'stable' and then upgrade again to get the 3.18 upgrade ;)
12:18 ashimema     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
12:18 ashimema     there are three debian repositories available
12:19 ashimema     interstingly enough though.. that page claims it should be 3.16 in old stable
12:20 gerundio     in the "To use" section yes, but if you read "Versions" it still refers 3.14 as old-stable and 3.16 as stable
12:21 ashimema     I don't maintain those repos I'm afraid so can't really comments..
12:21 ashimema     but still.. I'd probably track 'stable' unless your feeling really really causious
12:22 ashimema     Joubu.. how would you like me to submit my pull request for koha-contribs?
12:22 ashimema     it's a tiny tiny change which shouldn't affect your running as is ;)
12:28 cait         Joubu: around and got a moment maybe?
12:31 ashimema     busy man is our Joubu ;)
12:33 cait         yeah :)
12:33 cait         but never mind - i figured it out :)
12:33 cait         still trying to wrap my mind about our different delete scripts for the database
13:03 Joubu        ashimema, cait: back, it was lunch time here :)
13:04 ashimema     :)
13:04 Joubu        ashimema: for the merge request, I don't remeber how we did last time
13:04 ashimema     me niether..
13:04 ashimema     me neither..
13:04 ashimema     I have the changes in a public github repository
13:05 ashimema     it's a one liner in the docs, and a one liner in  script
13:05 Joubu        ashimema: maybe you can create a branch in your repo et I'll cherry-pick or am or whatever
13:05 ashimema     sounds fair..
13:05 ashimema     I'll branch it..
13:06 Joubu        ashimema: ok I see it on github, I can do it
13:06 ashimema     done..
13:06 ashimema     https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/koha-contrib/commits/sandbox-zebra
13:07 ashimema     just thee top commit.
13:08 * ashimema   has decided that aracni is very cool
13:13 Joubu        ashimema: merged and pushed on git.k-c.org
13:15 Joubu        cait: do you still need me?
13:15 ashimema     awesome.. cheers Joub
13:16 cait         Joubu: i think i figured it out
13:16 Joubu        cait: k :)
13:37 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:37 cait         hi oleonard :)
13:42 cait         hm does someone know how the table hold_fill_targets works?
13:42 cait         seemed related to the holds queue?
14:14 ashimema     koha scales really really badly for this kind of thing by the looks..
14:14 ashimema     mind you, I suppose in effect I'm DOSing my test instance here.
14:16 cait         :(
14:18 cait         hm funny
14:18 cait         you can#t delete patrons with fines
14:18 cait         but you can totally delete patrosn with a credit
14:18 akafred      :-)
14:18 cait         happy new year akafred
14:18 cait         :)
14:19 akafred      to you too! and everyone else in here! :-)
14:26 akafred      We have just spent a few hours trying to figure out why our automated suite of tests started failing during the holidays (or specifically pretty close to the time Santa usually tries to navigate chimneys) ... from what we have found out so far our virtual machine pulled in a new version of mysql (probably bumping from 5.6.21 to 5.6.22) which seems to have
14:26 akafred      caused '/usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/svc/new_bib' to start failing ... It is weird.
14:30 carmenh      Good morning #koha from NJ, USA :)
14:31 akafred      ...  we suspect there is something in new_bib that is incompatible with mysql 5.6.22 (but works well with 5.6.21 ... or 5.5.41).
14:59 cait         akafred: hm haven't heard anything about problems with newer versions of mysql so far
14:59 cait         wonde what that could be - is there nothing in the logs?
15:05 ashimema     Joubu.. I'm just putting together a more inclusive MARC21 DB for our sandboxes.. would you also like a merge request with this?
15:07 Joubu        ashimema: did you create a branch?
15:07 ashimema     not yet.. still building it.
15:07 ashimema     Colin's given me a great starting point..
15:08 ashimema     a bunch of marc records highlighting random characters (there's Arabic and Russian in there to highlight Cyrillic support) and some linked authorities too
15:08 ashimema     I'm just adding back a test:test user and things now
15:08 ashimema     adn resting settings to a bunch of defaults.
15:08 Joubu        ok, let me know when the branch will be created
15:09 ashimema     will do
15:20 ashimema     Joubu: https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/koha-contrib/tree/sandbox-marc21
15:20 ashimema     bascially, it just adds a bunch of records to the current MARC21 db.. last commit on that branch
15:22 Joubu        ashimema: there are only new records (biblio + auth), that's it?
15:22 ashimema     auth + bib, +a few extra anonymous users
15:23 ashimema     takes the compressed db up in size a fair bit though.. from tiny ( 434K ) to 1.2M (compared to the full UNIMARC db of 6.4 M compressed)
15:23 ashimema     i've also run the updatedatabase against it.. so there's less update to do with each run up of a sandbox.
15:24 ashimema     so there's a number of small changes.. but no nasty surprises.
15:29 cait         ashimema++
15:30 ashimema     colinc++ he gave me the data to start with ;)
16:05 Joubu        see you tomorrow #koha
16:08 cait         mveron++
16:49 cait         bye all - holiday here tomorrow :)
17:00 reiveune     bye
17:35 gaetan_B     bye
18:18 * chris_n    considers a wiki page entitled "101 ways to install koha wrong"
18:18 chris_n      based on the list, source material would not be lacking
18:18 druthb       better set it up to auto-count the major headings, and auto-increment.  There'll be more than 101 before long.
18:47 oleonard     NEKLS is looking for a director. Keep your fingers crossed they find someone Koha-friendly.
18:49 rangi        ohh good point oleonard
20:58 jmsasse      With a package install of 3.16.04 on debian 64, will zebra, SIP, etc resart with a restart of the server or do they need to be manually started?
20:59 rangi        they will restart
21:00 jmsasse      Thx rangi
21:45 eythian      hi
21:45 wahanui      hola, eythian
22:40 TGoat        koha channel - can anyone give me Tomas Cohen's email address? I received an email from someone that would like to speak with him on the logistics of Kohacon. Thanks
22:42 eythian      [off] TGoat: Tomas Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com>
22:42 TGoat        awesome eythian .. thank you :D
22:42 eythian      np
22:43 TGoat        the person inquiring works for the university system in Costa Rica and they'd like to host in 2016
22:43 eythian      ooh that'd be neat
22:44 dcook        ^
22:44 TGoat        myn thoughts too
22:46 rangi        they might have to go for 2017
22:46 rangi        i needs to rotate every 3
22:47 rangi        2016 needs to be europe, asia, the pacific
22:47 rangi        one of those areas
22:48 rangi        but 2017 would be fine
22:57 * cait       waves
22:58 eythian      hi cait
22:59 cait         hi eythian
22:59 cait         good answeron the list
23:00 eythian      ta
23:00 eythian      http://imgur.com/i2R85GC <-- cait
23:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #27 for job Koha_3.18.x_U14 (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #25 5 days 1 hr ago)
23:01 cait         cool, it worked :)
23:17 dcook        Hmm any ideas why a record might seem OK in MySQL and Zebra, yet still cause Koha to die?
23:18 dcook        And by Koha I mean the XML parser...
23:18 dcook        Saying all sorts of illegal characters are there but I can't see them when I look at the hex in MySQL :S
23:19 dcook        I'm guessing maybe bad item data that I'm not searching thoroughly enough
23:19 eythian      can you extract the XML and run XMLlint on it?
23:20 dcook        Hmm
23:20 dcook        The XML in my MySQL would be easy enough
23:20 dcook        Actually, yeah, maybe both... I'll give that a shot. Thanks, eythian.
23:20 eythian      you could just use the exporter to get the whole thing
23:26 dcook        Hmm...
23:26 dcook        xmllint seems ok with it...but maybe I'm missing something
23:27 eythian      hrm, maybe the exporter for rebuild_zebra does something different...
23:27 eythian      (I'm totally guessing now)
23:27 dcook        It looks ok when I query Zebra directly though...
23:27 dcook        SimpleSearch just returns marc... I suppose I should try looking at that as well
23:27 eythian      oh wait
23:27 eythian      causes koha to die
23:27 eythian      I was thinking causes zebra to die
23:28 eythian      yeah, check out the marc.
23:28 dcook        :168: parser error : PCDATA invalid Char value 30
23:28 dcook        <subfield code="u">TEXT\x1e  </subfield>
23:28 dcook        :S
23:28 dcook        I think \x1e is "record separator" but no idea how that's gotten in there..
23:29 dcook        The overall record seems like it's under the length limit
23:29 dcook        Maybe I should check individual field length to see if anything is over 9999 octets..
23:29 dcook        Nah, that's not it
23:30 dcook        I encountered one of these the other day. I did a ModBiblio on it and it fixed it, but need to figure out what's going on here as this is the second one to do it
23:32 dcook        Invisible characters are always fun :)
23:32 eythian      well, it's looking at marcxml there. Is there something strange in whereever that subfield u is coming from?
23:33 dcook        Not that I can see :S
23:33 eythian      mysterious
23:33 dcook        MySQL has an old query browser that lets you compare the text and the hexadecimal version of the text, and I can't even see that 1e there. It looks fine.
23:34 dcook        Other fields maybe... so I'm thinking it might be a problem somewhere else
23:34 eythian      view the record via the debugger?
23:34 eythian      it'll take a bit of time, but should give you more insight.
23:34 dcook        Hmm would I just print it out in debug mode?
23:35 eythian      I mean perl -d opac-detail.pl 'biblionumber=123'
23:35 eythian      and trace through the execution
23:35 dcook        Ahh
23:35 dcook        Good call
23:36 dcook        Ah wait a tick..
23:36 dcook        opac-detail.pl won't help
23:37 dcook        opac-detail works fine
23:37 dcook        It's the search, and the error happens during C4::Search::searchResults
23:37 eythian      oh right
23:38 eythian      well then do the search :)
23:38 dcook        Should be a similar syntax though I suppose..
23:38 eythian      yeah
23:38 eythian      it could be screwed up data in zebra, or did you check that?
23:38 eythian      oh, you did
23:38 dcook        Well, at least using yaz-client, which usually tells you pretty fast if you have a bad record
23:45 dcook        Hmmm the debugger doesn't seem to be saying anything different than the apache logs :/
23:47 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
23:47 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
23:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.18.x_U14 build #27: FIXED in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.18.x_U14/27/
23:59 eythian      dcook: well the thing is you can inspect the data
23:59 dcook        How do you mean?