Time Nick Message 23:59 rangi cool 23:59 drojf rangi: i can see it 23:59 rangi i think drojf should be able to now 23:58 bag rangi: still "Failed to retrieve bug information: NotPermitted" 23:58 wajasu well. i might be able to test it if i can see it when i get back in 2 hours. 23:57 wahanui now is good time with holidays coming up 23:57 rangi drojf: now? 23:54 rangi hm yeah thats the trick 23:53 drojf i can't see the bug :P 23:52 rangi that'd be great 23:51 rangi if i can get a signoff or 2 23:49 rangi has the patch 23:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13425 is not accessible. 23:49 rangi bug 13425 23:20 rangi :) 23:20 drojf (not meaning you have to be done by then, just that i'll go to sleep afterwards ^^) 23:19 drojf i'd test something within the next half hour or so, if already available. 23:18 rangi thats all im gonna say until ive put up a patch :) 23:18 rangi its only in bootstrap 23:10 rangi but lets not talk about it too much more on a publicly logged channel until we have a patch 23:10 rangi yeah its totally a regression of that 23:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11341 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, XSS attack vector in facets in OPAC - prog theme 23:10 rambutan bug 11341 23:08 rangi that would be good, i did an offlist reply but an onlist one (That doesnt quote the mail of course :)) would be great 23:08 wizzyrea actually we should add how to file a security bug to the footer of the list emails. 23:07 wizzyrea have you already filed a bug for that? Was going to suggest he do so and post a general reminder that security bugs should be filed in the proper way. 22:59 * bag sends rangi a cookie for now 22:59 drojf actually, i had the entry and that killed facet completely and saved me ^^ 22:53 * rangi will work on a fix 22:52 rangi just if you have any results and have facets on 22:51 rangi it shouldnt need an entry 22:51 drojf (i think) 22:51 drojf i have not added the koha-conf.xml entry 22:51 rangi yeah you need to get results, 3.16 too 22:51 drojf oh. that's why it doesn't work for me then? 22:50 rangi its to do with the facets 22:49 bag yeah that was umm debatable 22:46 rangi *sigh* there goes teh rest of the fucking day 22:46 rangi way to post that to a public list 22:45 rangi oh good grief 22:31 wizzyrea firefox is good like that. 22:31 wizzyrea tab bankruptcy. Though they'll probably ask to be restored when you start up again 22:23 dcook Even though you weren't using 99.9% of those tabs anyway and you won't really miss them 22:23 dcook That sad moment when you have to restart your machine and close approximately a million tabs 22:01 drojf one board to rule them all 21:52 rangi cya magnuse 21:52 magnuse yeah, have fun #koha! 21:50 cait night #koha 21:48 rangi heh 21:48 magnuse oh, the insanity 21:29 wizzyrea go back to the insanity, that is. 21:29 wizzyrea later :) 21:29 wizzyrea please don't 21:29 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. :) 21:29 mtompset Well, I need to run. Guess I go back to the insanity later. 21:26 wizzyrea :) 21:26 mtompset I hope not, wizzyrea. You're one of the fun people on this great channel. -- *whew* Glad you said that. :) 21:25 drojf :D 21:25 * wizzyrea is only kidding 21:24 wizzyrea ;) 21:24 wizzyrea you're dead to me. 21:24 mtompset Installing Strawberry Perl. ;) 21:24 wizzyrea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA this is a nicer url 21:23 wizzyrea http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCQQyCkwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4F4qzPbcFiA&ei=V2iHVICYGeT2mQWRt4KgCA&usg=AFQjCNEIyLc0noV7kS3erinT8-NReGk5uw&sig2=r-4oGTcVUx6g1jwk4CdF3g&bvm=bv.81449611,d.dGY 21:23 drojf it will go somewhere. kohalivedvdleaks kohaonwindowsleaks. don't underestimate all these crazy people after these things 21:23 mtompset I'd just burn a copy for drojf. ;) 21:22 mtompset You think I'm stupid enough to release it?! 21:22 wizzyrea and we have values to uphold. 21:22 wizzyrea that basically creates a mess that nobody wants to deal with. 21:21 wizzyrea I'm asking you with my brain. 21:21 wizzyrea please don't. 21:19 * mtompset worries he is making promises that may end up happening. :) 21:19 cait be careful what you get yourself into 21:18 drojf i'll volunteer as the "Drojf's Dream Koha Live-DVD"-manager 21:18 drojf lol 21:18 mtompset And if it works, and I make a live-dvd of it, I'll be sure to call it "Drojf's Dream Koha Live-DVD" 21:15 jcamins lol 21:15 mtompset If this works, I'll figure out how. :P 21:15 drojf sorry :D 21:15 * mtompset laughs. 21:15 rangi heh 21:15 drojf my vision… a windows-based live-dvd of koha 21:14 cait ... and noone will be able to help - because we don't run windows 21:14 rangi not with proprietary software one doesnt 21:14 drojf stupid nonfree things 21:14 mtompset Yes, it is... but one has to dream of the freedom to do really stupid things. :) 21:14 drojf for starters 21:13 * cait agrees 21:13 drojf forgetpasword: you could try 'apt-cache policy koha-common' to see if you installed packages 21:13 rangi its still a horribly bad idea 21:12 mtompset Well, we keep saying it isn't possible... perhaps it is now... maybe in the next to impossible chance it is, it would be nice to know. :) 21:12 mtompset I'm going to install apache, mysql, and strawberry perl (or some other windowsy perl).... 21:12 drojf mtompset: why? (and hello) 21:10 cait ? 21:10 mtompset With all this windows talk, I'm going to see how impossible it is under Windows Technical Preview. :) 21:10 wizzyrea oh WW 21:09 wizzyrea how 21:09 cait hm no easy bugs left in my list 21:08 cait but not sure if the plugin does all yet that is needed 21:08 cait it would be easy to add to templates 21:08 wizzyrea we thought you might know best of bugs that fall into this category. 21:08 cait for formatting prices 21:08 cait i wonder if we could extend the use of the new price tt plugin 21:07 wizzyrea I need to use more words. I blame being cold and wet. 21:07 wizzyrea we thought you might know best of those 21:07 rangi any typos, mistakes in teh help etc 21:07 rangi ideally yeah 21:07 wizzyrea it would be good to have both types :) 21:07 cait ah hm 21:07 wizzyrea rather "what about for fixing" 21:07 cait ah, you want them to write patche stoo? 21:06 wizzyrea for fixing? 21:06 cait wizzyrea: everything owen is usually good to test yep 21:05 forgetpasword Linux libami 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue May 13 17:14:12 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux 21:05 forgetpasword Koha version: 3.10.01.000 21:04 drojf wizzyrea: there are some opac patches by oleonard which are usually easy to test/sign off 21:03 forgetpasword debian 21:02 drojf forgetpasword: what operating system are you using? 21:01 forgetpasword i saw it 20:59 wizzyrea ^ see there 20:59 wahanui it has been said that searching faq is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ 20:59 wizzyrea searching faq? 20:59 forgetpasword i can’t remember 20:59 forgetpasword it was 3 year ago 20:59 forgetpasword i installed zebra, inside koha 20:59 wizzyrea don't know? 20:58 wizzyrea packages? tarball? 20:58 wizzyrea forgetpasword: you didn't answer cait's question - how did you install Koha? 20:57 forgetpasword i need one person , how can help me . i will pay for this 20:57 wizzyrea or do you know of some 20:57 wizzyrea do you have some easy ones for signoff or fixing? 20:57 cait ohcool 20:57 wizzyrea we're having some librarians come for a bug squashing party 20:57 cait yes? 20:56 wizzyrea I had a question for you 20:56 wizzyrea oh, cait 20:51 cait how did you install koha? 20:49 forgetpasword how i can solve this problem? 20:48 forgetpasword Error Zebra server seems not to be available. Is it started? 20:48 forgetpasword Zebra version: Zebra 2.0.59 (C) 1994-2014, Index Data Zebra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. SHA1 ID: c00bfddbf0f3608340d61298acc61dafb167f9b2 Using ICU 20:41 cait rangi: thought we had got them all 20:41 cait rangi: some new must have sneaked in 20:38 forgetpasword have anybody alive 20:38 forgetpasword i need help about zebra indexer 20:38 forgetpasword hi all 20:34 rangi 90% of our combined error logs are warns from those 20:33 rangi hmm we need to get rid of the last of the given and whens 20:31 larryb well, that's pretty close to what I'm doing 20:30 rangi if you want to name them the ubuntu way :) 20:30 rangi http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/17/ubuntu-package-version-naming-explanation/ 20:28 rangi i do -v 3.16.04~bywater 20:28 larryb didn't like that so I set -v to '3.16.04-6.bywater' and that worked fine 20:28 rangi ah yeah, it wont like that 20:27 larryb no, I did include the -v when I built it, but the version I gave was something like 'bywater-v3.16.04...' 20:27 rangi rejigging the apt repository is on his list too 20:27 rangi it would complain 20:27 rangi i think if you forget the -v when you build or did -v somewords 20:27 larryb cool 20:27 rangi works on debian sid 20:27 wizzyrea nor, come to think of it, from a custom package that started with koha-common 20:26 larryb hmm, maybe it was just a problem with the ones I built 20:26 wizzyrea not from the repository anyway 20:26 wizzyrea I don't recall having that problem when I've done it on 14.04 20:26 * rangi wgets it to test 20:25 larryb okay, well maybe it's not an issue then 20:25 larryb it's rare, but there have been occasions where I needed to do that 20:25 rangi they look fine in the repo to me 20:24 larryb yeah, and I fixed it on our packages, but there are also situations where you might want to download the .deb file from the repository and install via dpkg. 20:24 rangi you give it the version number you want 20:24 rangi ./debian/build-git-snapshot -v 3.14.11 -r /tmp 20:24 rangi ah well thats up to you when you make the package 20:24 mtompset Ah. 20:23 larryb because I was installing a custom package with some additional patches in it 20:23 rangi koha-common_3.18.00_all.deb 20:23 mtompset Why are you using dpkg to install on Ubuntu 14.04? 20:23 larryb I believe it starts with 'koha-common' 20:23 rangi it does start with a digit doesnt it? 20:22 larryb I presume Wheezy will do the same 20:21 larryb It refused to install it. 20:21 larryb I wonder too if we should start changing how the packages are built. I noticed the other day, when installing a package via dpkg on Ubuntu 14.04, that the later versions of dpkg don't like .deb packages where the version number doesn't start with a digit. 20:20 larryb thank you sir 20:20 rangi will do 20:20 larryb rangi, can you let him know? 20:19 rangi ah yep 20:19 larryb ah okay. I noticed that the oldstable version is still 3.14, instead of 3.16 20:18 rangi yep 20:18 rangi https://www.kiwicon.org/the-con/training/#e114 20:17 larryb eythian handles the apt repository, right? 20:17 larryb sounds like fun 20:17 rangi software defined radio 20:17 rangi hes in a training course all day 20:16 larryb eythian, you here? 20:15 larryb hello #koha 19:43 jcamins ibeardslee: that sounds reasonable. 19:41 mtompset By the way, does anyone know how to upgrade debhelper on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? 19:41 ibeardslee also where 'not cold' is 18°C+ 19:40 ibeardslee wind cold rain .. I can handle two of those at a time, although cold & rain is probably the least prefered combination. 19:39 cait can't say that about cold :) 19:39 cait but rain sounds nice 19:38 jcamins When there are torrential downpours and it's below 10C, you are going to be in danger of hypothermia. 19:38 jcamins At least if it's just cold you can wear a jacket and have some hope of not getting painfully cold. 19:37 * jcamins prefers cold to rain. 19:37 cait ok.. I like rain, cold not so much 19:37 cait ... will you people stop complaining? :) 19:37 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.3°C (8:35 PM CET on December 09, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). 19:36 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:36 * chris_n hands jcamins a pair of hip waders 19:36 jcamins No flood advisory? How odd. 19:35 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Meadow Lake, New York, New York is 5.6°C (2:14 PM EST on December 09, 2014). Conditions: Heavy Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect until 7 PM EST this evening... 19:35 jcamins @wunder 11375 19:35 jcamins Here, too. 19:33 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (8:00 AM NZDT on December 10, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Rising). 19:33 rangi @wunder nzwn 19:33 rangi this weather is awful 19:14 jcamins oleonard: that was when I was young and naive. 19:13 rangi i think so 19:13 rangi *nod* 19:13 oleonard Sure, I hope it was diplomatic. I wanted him to get his patch in too. 19:12 * cait is just confused 19:12 rangi on the z3950 thing 19:12 rangi thanks for the followup oleonard 19:12 rangi heh 19:11 oleonard jcamins: Really? My distaste for doing nothing is at an all-time low! 19:10 wahanui i guess python is a bit ropey with its utf8 handling, but it can be made to work 19:10 mtompset python? 19:09 rangi ashimema: one of yours? 19:06 ashimema thanks guys 19:05 rangi when its configured it works well 19:05 rangi yup 19:05 rangi as did i 19:05 jcamins But my distaste for doing nothing was greater than my distaste for environmental variables. 19:05 rangi *nod* i remember 19:05 jcamins For the record, I expressed my distaste for environmental variables from the start. 19:04 rangi but for now, the env variable will save you until thats fixed 19:04 ashimema brb 19:04 rangi id ask jcamins or eythian about that 19:04 ashimema dinner 19:04 ashimema right... 19:04 ashimema no idea why. 19:04 ashimema get_instance routine creates a singleton_cache? 19:04 wahanui wish i knew, mtompset 19:04 mtompset wahanui: You said learn python?! Who taught you such a foul utterance? :P 19:04 ashimema once in Koha::Cache itself.. but in this case it looks like it's meant to be shared.. 19:02 ashimema 3 ;) 19:02 wahanui 3 19:02 rangi one or 2 19:02 rangi theres very few 19:02 ashimema just means tracking down all the calling routines and correcting the way they call it ;) 19:02 rangi and fix them to pass a namespace 19:01 rangi just find the places that call Koha::Cache->new 19:01 cait :( 19:01 rangi no its really not complicated at all 19:01 cait so... someone volunteering to do a real fix? it suddenly sounds quite complicated 19:01 ashimema haha.. agreed.. 19:01 ashimema should I bother submitting a fix to the installer to set an env variable by default or not.. that is the question. 19:01 wahanui cronjobs are essential 19:01 rangi and cronjobs 19:01 rangi cos env variables suck, when you are doing plack etc 19:01 ashimema so.. 19:01 ashimema k.. 19:00 rangi exactly 19:00 rangi in the places that call it 19:00 ashimema where we should be passing in a namespace. 19:00 rangi yep 19:00 ashimema hmm.. so the bug is further up in the code.. 19:00 rangi it just falls back to that 19:00 rangi Koha::Cache expects you to 19:00 ashimema I'e rather it just called CACHE_NAMESPACE making it generic if that's the case.. and set by default to somthing sensible on a per instance basis. 19:00 rangi the real fix is to actually pass in the namespace 18:59 rangi i dont like its an env variable at all 18:59 ashimema I don't like that an environment variable clearly named MEMCACHED is used for a non memchaced thing.. 18:59 rangi the env is there only as a fallback 18:59 rangi is to call Koha::Cache->new({cache_type => $cache_type, namespace => $namespace}); 18:58 wahanui the real fix is to learn python and fix git-bz :-) 18:58 rangi the real fix 18:58 * cait is confused but worreid to run into this soon 18:58 cait like... turning it on? 18:58 cait or will that make other bad stuff happen? 18:57 cait so what i'd do is just make sure a Memchaced thing is set... even if we don't use memcache? 18:57 rangi i mean its there in the docs, but who reads those :) 18:57 rangi its a bug in how we call KOha::Cache->new 18:57 ashimema thanks rangi.. you've saved me allot of headaches. 18:57 rangi yep 18:57 ashimema it's not a bug in caching. 18:57 cait i mean you say no at installation time and it sitll tries to? 18:57 ashimema indeed.. 18:56 ashimema I'd certainly not drawn the conclusion that mmap needed a memcached namespace ot be set ;) 18:56 cait but what if you don't want to use memcache? 18:56 rangi i mean, its not a bug in caching 18:56 cait hm 18:56 rangi its just that it should be configured out of the box 18:56 rangi its not even a bug 18:56 ashimema that's a nasty bug.. 18:56 ashimema for each instance indeed does the trick. 18:55 ashimema SetEnv MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE="instance_name" 18:55 ashimema So... I can confirm that setting: 18:55 rangi eg 18:55 rangi you can pass in a namespace when you call Koha::Cache->new 18:53 rangi yep 18:53 cait it seems that will kick in always? 18:53 cait shouldn't there be a way to turn of caching if you don't want to? 18:52 cait ah 18:52 rangi its defaulting to koha 18:52 rangi $self->{'namespace'} ||= $ENV{MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE} || 'koha'; 18:52 rangi cos of that line 18:52 * cait crosses fingers for ashimema 18:51 ashimema but that's another questions. 18:51 ashimema I'm intrugued why $self->{'namespace'} is beign set the same for all instances on the server.. 18:51 cait being awesome :) 18:51 rangi no worries hope it helps 18:51 cait rangi++ 18:51 ashimema thanks rangi 18:51 ashimema I believe so 18:50 rangi that make sense? 18:50 rangi and when you run any scripts 18:50 rangi in your apache config 18:50 rangi setting some ENV variables should fix this 18:50 rangi $self->{'namespace'} ||= $ENV{MEMCACHED_NAMESPACE} || 'koha'; 18:49 rangi is different for each instance 18:49 rangi make sure $self->{'namespace'} 18:49 ashimema found it.. 18:49 rangi 'share_file' => "/tmp/sharefile-koha-$self->{'namespace'}" 18:49 rangi .pm even 18:49 rangi in Koha/Cache/pm 18:49 rangi sub _initialize_fastmmap { 18:48 rangi find where its creating the new object, it will be in Koha::Cache 18:48 cait i would have pushed for a proper fix more then 18:48 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~robm/Cache-FastMmap-1.40/lib/Cache/FastMmap.pm#METHODS 18:47 cait i am sorry, i didn't see it was so serious :( 18:47 * ashimema is feeling positive with rangi's yep response 18:47 ashimema this didn't happen in my test upgrade this morning :( 18:47 ashimema I can't uninstall fastmmap as it goes and nukes koha-common. 18:47 rangi yep 18:47 ashimema any hints on how to get this working in a hurry :( 18:46 ashimema indeed.. 18:46 rangi they shouldnt be all trying to use /tmp 18:46 rangi which specifies where you should be caching 18:46 ashimema this has destroyed a live server 18:46 rangi yeah id file a bug for it, there needs to be a line in koha-conf 18:46 ashimema crap.. 18:46 cait i think they only fixed the test 18:46 cait i have kept running into it 18:46 cait yeah, they improved it a ibt, but it was not a fix 18:44 ashimema this is in 3.18 :( 18:44 cait i think it's misbehaving... and also a new bug 18:43 cait maybe you should leave a new comment there 18:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12800 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Can't access MARC bibliographic frameworks and other pages 18:43 cait bug 12800 18:43 ashimema that wants to remove kha-common though :( 18:43 cait uninstalling the fastmmap thing fixed it for me... but i admit it#s probably not the best solution 18:42 cait i had it happen on a normal installation without caching or anything configured - it just assumes if the package is around you want to do something with it i think 18:42 cait as long as the fastmmap thing is instaled, i kept running into this 18:42 cait is the only solution i have 18:42 cait uninstall the package 18:42 ashimema Open of share file /tmp/sharefile-koha-koha failed: Permission denied at /usr/lib/perl5/Cache/FastMmap.pm line 640. 18:42 cait yeah 18:42 ashimema ever seen that? 18:42 ashimema resulting in really nasty errors.. 18:41 ashimema and of course the tmp file gets givine one instance's permissions so locks all other instances out 18:41 ashimema FastMmap is getting shared between instances.. 18:41 * cait turns into rubber duck mode 18:41 cait oh 18:41 ashimema I'm having issues with our multi-tenant server.. 18:41 ashimema you do indeed.. 18:40 cait do i count? 18:40 cait me :) 18:39 ashimema anyone about? 17:10 gaetan_B bye 16:12 reiveune bye 15:34 ashimema anywho 15:34 ashimema I tried with a user with 87 current checkouts.. 15:34 ashimema I can't replicate any slow down.. but I'm on a farily well equiped machine here :(.. 15:27 oleonard I'll have to do more testing to recognize the pattern 15:27 ashimema so it's feeling like the datatables part is the factor that's kicking you.. after the actual ajax calls 15:26 ashimema the ajax calls certainly shouldn't lock the rest of the browser.. that was kinda the point of making thme ajax 15:26 ashimema hmmm.. shouldn't be.. 15:25 oleonard Well maybe it's more of a server specs issue... My slow VM slowing down the AJAX processing? 15:23 ashimema your right.. it should only be current checkouts that should affect it. 15:23 oleonard circ history, or number of current checkouts? 15:23 ashimema have you noticed a certain size of circ history that affects it? 15:22 oleonard I'm not a fan of this implementation of AJAX circ, but AJAX is not inherently evil. 15:21 mtompset ^me^we^ 15:21 mtompset AJAX is eeeeeevil. Can me make Koha HTML2.0 compliant. ;) 15:21 oleonard The browser is unresponsive for a moment while the table loads. 15:21 ashimema wow.. 15:21 oleonard I find that Firefox and Chrome both freeze up when trying to process the circ page datatable 15:20 ashimema I didn't realise ajax for circ was that intensive.. 15:20 ashimema oleonard.. really? 14:43 oleonard AJAX circ has pretty much upped the specs required for a machine running Koha for checkouts 14:36 Joubu oleonard: Actually the author of the patch copied the structure of the select|clear all links 14:36 oleonard I will look Joubu 14:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7741 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, savitra.sirohi, Failed QA , Clear search terms in Z3950 search page 14:34 Joubu oleonard: bug 7741, does it make sense for you to have a "clear form" button in the h2 tag? 14:32 _222V Will do. Was hoping someone might have a quick fix! 14:31 cait you should file a bug report for that i think 14:29 _222V Has anyone noticed that Koha SIP server starts checked out items from 0? This means a user can get one more item out than allowed in the circulation rules! 14:29 cait oleonard: i think there is a picture on facebook - cute baby 14:25 kivilahtio cait: thxxx 14:24 Joubu cait: yep 14:24 cait the dad thing :) and he hasn't been here since... I think 14:23 cait an i think it was friday even 14:23 chris_n glad to see everyone back today :-) 14:23 oleonard Oh I hadn't heard! That's a good excuse :) 14:23 cait kivilahtio: not aware of one for circ 14:23 Joubu oleonard: Tomas is dad since yesterday! 14:22 kivilahtio what a typo spree! 14:22 oleonard Is tcohen missing? 14:22 kivilahtio just curious if there is a bug already in Bugzilal for hits 14:22 Joubu jcamins: yep! :) 14:22 kivilahtio its is a bit hard in many vies to find the serial number whe there is no info on which enumeration is needed 14:21 jcamins Joubu: Bernardo might be a better choice right now. ;) 14:21 kivilahtio Hi there! We need a improvement where in the circ/circulation.pl-view our librarians could see the enumchron of the Serial number the borrower has checkod out/reserved 14:20 Joubu jcamins: ok thanks, I will sent an email to Tomas and Bernardo 14:20 Joubu 404 NOT FOUND 1m 17s 14:20 jcamins UNC, I think. 14:19 Joubu It looks very sloooow 14:19 Joubu Who hosts translate.k-c.org? 13:56 drojf bye TUBS 13:56 TUBS thx for the help and goodbye 13:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5511 normal, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, ASSIGNED , Check for Change in Remote IP address for Session Security. Disable when remote ip address changes frequently. 13:54 ashimema anyone fancy a super simple signoff: bug 5511 13:49 drojf [off] i didn't say i'd start it. but when we have it anyway… why not make the best out of it? :D 13:46 cait [off] rofl 13:43 oleonard [off] Now we have a whole new category of super-villain: Starting zombie apocalypses to further the adoption of open source software 13:39 drojf [off] i'd migrate them to koha while they have to deal with the zombie apocalypse 13:39 jcamins [off] The library is definitely the place to go for braaaaaiiiiinnnnssss, too. 13:38 drojf [off] that would be awesome :D 13:38 jcamins [off] Do you mean that the zombies have taken over Berlin's public facilities?!? 13:38 drojf [off] dear. but dead describes the wifi, kind of 13:37 drojf [off] dead berlin state library, your wifi is ridiculously bad today 13:30 TUBS thanx to the bots :) 13:29 drojf wahanui is a bot too ;) 13:29 drojf TUBS: ignore huginn, it's a bot. and reacts to @ in a weird way :) 13:28 wahanui well, RDA is my cataloguing standards are bad, and you should feel bad 13:28 TUBS RDA? 13:28 huginn TUBS: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 13:28 TUBS huginn, drojf, @cait: thx very much. that did the trick 13:25 ashimema to poitn the logs to a useful place. 13:25 ashimema in fact.. that snippet should also be tenant aware :( 13:22 ashimema is it just me.. or should the commented sessionlog lines in Auth.pm really be bound to $debug 13:17 oleonard Ignore huginn, F0undation, he's a bot who doesn't like it when you use the @ 13:16 huginn F0undation: I suck 13:16 F0undation @cait, thanks! Well, it's not only for keywords that are about the time, but also general subject terms. We have them in multiple languages. Was thinking of whether I could do a pass through Google Translate, duplicating the keywords in several languages, before doing the actual query - but then I'd have to hack it into the search interface :p 13:12 drojf yay :) 13:12 cait drojf: team work :) 13:11 cait ah right 13:11 drojf #!/usr/bin/perl 13:11 drojf TUBS: and you need to add the first line ( http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=34083&action=diff ) 13:09 cait you need to change the file permissions a bit - the bug report has a description 13:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13377 major, P4, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , automatic_renewals.pl not marked executable 13:09 cait TUBS: bug 13377 i think 13:09 drojf library wifi :( 13:08 cait TUBS: is that 3.18.0? 13:08 cait F0undation: normally i'd say that you should normalize the records to have the normlized publication year (numeric) in all of them - then the date range search would work nicely 13:07 cait F0undation: that's a difficult one - we have lots of multi-langual libraries, but automatic translation/look up is a difficult problem 13:06 TUBS there are some more of that kin 13:04 TUBS 20: /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/automatic_renewals.pl: automatic_renewals.pl: not found 13:04 TUBS 18: /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/automatic_renewals.pl: =head1: not found 13:00 drojf TUBS: what kind of errors? 12:55 oleonard Hi #koha 12:54 TUBS now the scripr runs but gives error messages 12:53 TUBS so i changed the scripts permissions to "executible" 12:52 TUBS "/etc/cron.daily/koha-common: <instance>: env: /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/automatic_renewals.pl: No Permission" 12:48 TUBS I have a error message form a koha cronjob 12:48 drojf hi TUBS 12:48 F0undation Hello, Koha newbe here with a Q: I've got a bunch of MARC records in Dutch, and a bunch in French, with keywords in respective languages. If I search for 18th century books with query "18e eeuw" I also want the records with "18ieme siecle" returned. Anyone have any good pointers towards Koha installs for multilingual libraries? 12:48 wahanui bidet, TUBS 12:48 TUBS Hello 12:42 ashimema cheers for the heads up Joubu 12:42 Joubu ashimema: FYI: I have just commited in the contrib repo for the sandboxes (I don't know if you updated them automatically). 12:40 cait our summer was not a workaholic this year 12:40 cait :) 12:32 drojf exactly 12:32 drojf heh 12:31 liw "We still have summer. It's just taking a winter holiday right now." 12:31 drojf oh yes. it will definitely return at some point 12:31 magnuse or it just took a break 12:31 magnuse drojf: yup 12:19 drojf your summer ended fast :D 12:17 magnuse about 7 cm snow on the ground 12:17 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 1.0°C (1:00 PM CET on December 09, 2014). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). 12:17 magnuse @wunder boo 12:17 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0°C (1:00 PM CET on December 09, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1029 hPa (Rising). 12:17 cait @wunder Konstanz 12:10 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berolinastr., Berlin-Mitte, Berlin, Germany is 4.1°C (1:10 PM CET on December 09, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 12:10 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 10:54 paxed +s 10:54 paxed hmph. looks like it's imposible to rename the "Default" auth type via GUI. 10:21 magnuse hm? :-) 10:17 ashimema hmm.. 10:03 magnuse paxed: ok, i don't think you can enforce that, then 09:23 paxed (because PERSO_NAMEs can be highly local, but eg. TOPIC_TERMs come from our national library) 09:22 paxed mtj: 8 Gb - this is just my laptop 09:21 paxed magnuse: but we do want. only admin should be able to add any auths, some other people should be able to add PERSO_NAMEs, but nothing else. 08:55 mtj ..i was curious how much RAM your system had? 08:55 mtj paxed, i read you ran out of memory when auth linking, some days ago.. 08:54 * mtj waves to #koha 08:54 mtj hmm, that would be one way, yeah ^ 08:43 magnuse paxed: maybe delete the frameworks for the types you don't want? 08:41 * magnuse waves 08:35 cait hi #koha 08:12 gaetan_B hello 07:57 wahanui what's up, alex_a 07:57 alex_a bonjour 07:38 drojf good morning #koha 07:38 reiveune hello 07:02 paxed is it possible to prevent adding certain types of authorities, while allowing adding other types? 05:36 dcook And with its own bundled libraries. 05:36 dcook Huzzah, tool installed. Finally. 05:21 dcook Yay multi-arch... 05:20 dcook As per another user's suggestion, disabled CONFIG_SITE, and nokogiri built correctly... 05:10 ddecka how can I connect or point directly to the server and start cataloguing? 05:09 dcook ddecka: Sure! Help might vary depending on the question, but it's worth a shot 05:09 dcook liw: Awesome that you're online though! I've been keen to chat about obnam :) 05:09 dcook liw: I figured that might be the case. I just wasn't sure if obnam stored the private key or if it just asked for it. 05:09 ddecka should I ask my query? 05:08 liw dcook, http://obnam.org/faq/private-key-for-backup/ -- obnam needs to decrypt things in the repository even just for backups 05:01 dcook So it'll never work 05:01 dcook Looks like CONFIG_SITE is used to prefer lib64 in most cases, but in nokogiri itself it's just hardcoded for lib 05:00 dcook eythian: Quoted from the nokogiri help forum: "The lib as part of the libxml2 and libxslt paths appears to be hard-coded in ext/nokogiri/extconf.rb in the nokogiri distribution" 04:38 dcook Ah, maybe I'm wrong.. 04:37 dcook and zlib-devel-32bit 04:37 dcook Already have zlib-devel... 04:37 dcook I think it's some zlib... although which package.. 04:32 dcook Mmm, I think I might've figured it out.. 04:30 dcook I'm thinking there must be an issue with their build script... 04:29 dcook wizzyrea: --use-system-libraries did the trick 04:23 dcook All right. Don't have time to waste on this. system libraries it is 03:50 dcook And I have no idea what it's trying to do to them 03:49 dcook While it's looking in lib64, it's trying to find those exact files in lib... 03:49 dcook Hmm, think I'm getting closer after analyzing those options.. 03:46 dcook Chef installed well enough 03:46 dcook Well, the knife ec2 package 03:46 dcook Not sure if it'll be high enough for Chef 03:45 dcook Older version... possibly a less problematic version 03:45 dcook Hmm, looks like there is a distro package for nokogiri 03:45 dcook OpenSuse :/ 03:45 wizzyrea what OS? CentOS? 03:45 wizzyrea yeah fair enough 03:44 dcook Which is why I'd be reluctant to switch versions 03:44 dcook It's all automatic at the moment :/ 03:44 wizzyrea if you're doing things manually, ruby can (and does) get upset. 03:43 dcook (not that I've heard lots) 03:43 wizzyrea if you have 2.1, go back to 2.0, if you are using 2.0, go up to 2.1 03:43 dcook I've only heard of that happening if you have multiple versions of ruby on your OS 03:43 wizzyrea they were not always civil. 03:43 dcook ruby version mismatch? 03:43 wizzyrea i've had lots of arguments with ruby. 03:43 wizzyrea could also be a ruby version mismatch 03:42 dcook But it's... disturbing... that it's not working 03:42 dcook As it won't have to compile them 03:42 dcook wizzyrea: Yeah, I imagine that'll work 03:42 dcook I mean, I wonder how "gem install" works 03:42 wizzyrea are you trying to gem install nokigiri? you might try it with a --use-system-libraries=true 03:41 dcook I wonder where.. 03:41 dcook The package version of nokogiri has its own libxml2 and libxslt in it too though 03:41 dcook Possibly 03:40 eythian because that way things tend to work 03:40 eythian it should be the first step 03:40 dcook wizzyrea: Nope. It's been around a while. 03:40 dcook eythian: that's probably my next step, but it should work on its own :/ 03:39 eythian why don't you install the distro version? 03:39 dcook eythian: yeah, it should have everything in the package 03:39 eythian it's lookig in /opt, that not what I would expect, unless it's got everything in the package 03:39 wizzyrea is this a new server? 03:39 dcook It's a massive set of options 03:39 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Gcc" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/309 03:38 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Errors..." (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/308 03:38 eythian I ought to learn autotools 03:38 eythian neither, that's around where my useful knowledge tends to end 03:37 dcook That was my guess, but not sure how to figure that out yet 03:37 eythian it might be the build script is not taking it into proper consideration 03:37 dcook In hindsight, that's what you mentioned in the past when I had those Zebra problems, eythian 03:37 dcook I think it looks all right 03:35 dcook Hmm 03:35 dcook I'm guessing not 03:35 dcook I just saw that in my Google results :) 03:34 eythian is /etc/ld.so.conf right? 03:34 dcook Ran into this problem with Zebra ages ago, but we cheated for that one 03:34 dcook But fails because it can't find them in lib because lib doesn't exist... 03:34 dcook I'm probably not understanding the gcc options, but it looks like it should be looking in both lib64 and lib 03:33 dcook Nope... no idea why this isn't working. 03:27 dcook Yep 03:27 dcook lol 03:27 dcook Although it's fun being a jack of all trades I suppose 03:27 wizzyrea YOU ARE THE PEOPLE 03:27 * dcook wishes he had people for things 03:27 dcook :p 03:27 wizzyrea we have people for that :P 03:27 dcook The Chef installer is pretty slick 03:27 wizzyrea yeah 03:27 dcook Chef/Puppet? 03:27 wizzyrea I've never tried to install it. 03:27 dcook I was digging Python the other day, although the whole whitespace thing still annoys me 03:27 wizzyrea well that's a reasonable thing. lots of people use puppet and chef, it must work alright 03:26 dcook wizzyrea: Yeah, can't say I've really been keen on Ruby, but figured I'd use it just because Chef/Puppet use it 03:26 dcook Mostly Ruby though I think 03:26 wizzyrea I don't think I've ever had a reasonable experience with a ruby app. 03:25 dcook Hmm, apparently it's Ruby and Erlang 03:25 wizzyrea the chef is off the tracks, look out. 03:25 dcook hehe 03:25 wizzyrea ah right ruby without rails 03:25 dcook Didn't poke around the rpm at all 03:25 dcook Well, at least it looks self-contained so far 03:24 dcook Quite the self-contained little thing 03:24 dcook I used the install script they provide which used an rpm... and it looks like it's even embedded ruby within chef 03:24 eythian puppet is a ruby app, though IIRC not rails 03:24 dcook I don't think so 03:24 dcook I'm not sure 03:24 dcook hehe 03:24 wizzyrea I know I could just go look that up. 03:24 wizzyrea is chef a rails app? 03:23 dcook Damned nokogiri 03:23 dcook Although the issue I think is with the options for gcc rather than Chef itself 03:23 dcook I like the look of Chef so far but might have to try switching to Puppet if I can't resolve this issue 03:22 eythian yeah, I've heard that too. I've used puppet on amazon, it worked fine. 03:22 dcook I thought I heard Chef worked better with Amazon, so I've started looking at Chef.. 03:21 dcook Thought that might be it 03:21 eythian that's what we use internally here 03:21 dcook How'd you choose puppet? 03:19 eythian puppet yeah 03:11 dcook eythian: were you thinking of using chef or puppet? 03:10 dcook Now if only I could figure out how to get this compiler to look in lib64 instead of lib... 03:10 dcook \o/ 03:09 eythian ah yep, fixed in newer versions 03:06 eythian mind you, I'm looking at an old version, maybe it's better now 03:05 * eythian notes that prove t/Output_JSONStream.t relies on the order of a hash and will fail ~50% of the time.