Time Nick Message 23:30 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded. 23:30 dcook @later tell tcohen back! I missed you too :) 23:09 dcook Yep. It's pretty great. Now that summer is here/approaching, I need to remember that I can't go outside for 5 minutes without sunscreen. 22:48 eythian spend all day walking in the sun and might be a little red at the end of it 22:48 eythian yeah, I found that in Europe too. 22:46 dcook But awesome 22:46 dcook It was weird 22:45 dcook You could be in the sun all the time and not burn 22:45 dcook Oh man... the sun in Greece was awesome 22:41 wizzyrea or ordered them online. 22:41 wizzyrea besides "the internet" though that's a valid answer - I just want to know if they walked into a shop and bought them. 22:40 wizzyrea please and thank you 22:40 eythian locals should know that sun == death 22:40 wizzyrea if they don't, at least find out where they got them ;) 22:40 eythian it's possible they're only giving them out to people from overseas though 22:40 eythian I'll see if they have extras 22:39 dcook I need some of those beads :p 22:39 dcook Those are rad 22:39 wizzyrea i want some of those beads for soren. 22:39 rangi i should get to see those in person tomorrow :) 22:39 wizzyrea yeah, this is why libraries have staff. :P 22:38 dcook It's a tough one. If you're only able to go to the library that day to print off your resume, and everyone else is hogging the computers (even if they are getting fines), that doesn't really help the person who needs to print off their resume :/ 22:38 eythian https://twitter.com/hypatiadotca/status/541070697716412417 22:38 * wizzyrea is torn on being nice or being snarktastic 22:37 dcook hehe 22:37 ibeardslee .. or maybe if people don't have to deal with me .. 22:37 wizzyrea haha. 22:36 ibeardslee if I don't have to deal with people that's a win ;) 22:36 wizzyrea "I can't do anything about it, the computer says your time is up" 22:36 wizzyrea often you don't have a technical problem - you have a people problem that seems like you might have to be confrontational so you seek a technical solution to that. 22:35 wizzyrea yeah, it's always been a peeve of mine when people try to solve people problems with an overuse of technology. 22:35 eythian (those are the bits immediately after the paste) 22:35 eythian <neale> cf: voting 22:35 eythian <neale> It is a moral imperative 22:35 eythian <SpaceHobo> haha yeah 22:35 eythian <neale> SpaceHobo, what you don't understand is that we must apply technology to everything. 22:35 eythian <neale> ha, nice 22:35 eythian ibeardslee: 22:33 wizzyrea even that's too complicated. 22:33 ibeardslee scan your card to 'login' and that kicks you off after your time. 22:32 wizzyrea a barcode, associated with a computer, with hourly loans and fines. 22:32 wizzyrea but what they really need, and what I always advocated for, was exactly what he described there. 22:31 wizzyrea yeah, libraries think they need complicated software to manage computers 22:28 eythian http://youtu.be/9ZlBUglE6Hc <-- here's a guide 22:27 ibeardslee walk home a different way 22:27 eythian http://paste.koha-community.org/306 <-- related story about checking out the internet 22:26 dcook Now it's close enough to walk to, but it's a bit past my house... so I never go that far after work :p 22:26 dcook In the past, it was too far to walk from my house 22:26 dcook Sounds interesting. I wish I were more connected with my local library 22:25 dcook ibeardslee: I'm also thinking star trek 22:25 dcook heya, eythian :) 22:25 eythian what is this, star trek? 22:24 ibeardslee instead of a library card, people get a tablet that gives access to the library's resources 22:24 eythian dcook: hello! 22:24 * dcook is always confused when people put question marks instead of full stops. 22:23 dcook "I'm not sure I understand."* 22:23 dcook Wait.. 22:23 dcook I'm not sure I understand? 22:23 ibeardslee yes 22:23 wizzyrea curated things 22:23 ibeardslee and other research, information access 22:22 ibeardslee electronic delivery of books 22:22 ibeardslee yeah .. I had a discussion a while back with wizzyrea about how the library access is a tablet of some sort. 22:22 dcook :p 22:22 dcook Damn it, why don't libraries do that... 22:22 dcook Very rad in fact 22:21 dcook online checkout would be rad 22:21 dcook Not to the users 22:21 dcook But I suppose that's still shipping to a "central" location 22:21 dcook I've heard stories about "libraries" that are essentially just post boxes 22:21 dcook hehe 22:21 ibeardslee .. feel free to tweak punctuation 22:21 dcook Hmm, good question 22:20 ibeardslee yeah true. But I suppose once that has happened then, online checkout/delivery of books/access points are possible although, I imagine, costly. 22:19 dcook If it's a public library, you almost always need to show some proof of residence 22:19 dcook ibeardslee, depends on the library, I suppose? 22:18 ibeardslee still need to find a way to bootstrap things like that .. do you still need to go irl to join a library? 22:13 * magnuse waves at all the cool people then promptly falls asleep 21:35 wizzyrea :( that sucks 21:35 jcamins Yeah, open. 21:35 jcamins Heh. 21:34 eythian yeah, that sentence no verb. 21:34 wizzyrea aren't what? open? 21:34 jcamins wizzyrea: unfortunately, the libraries still aren't at times when people might want to go in to check out the access points. 21:24 wahanui niihau, eythian 21:24 eythian hi 21:15 ibeardslee that and subsidising reality TV 21:10 wizzyrea so they won't object. 21:10 wizzyrea it's part of the plan to make good people feel hopeless. 21:09 * ibeardslee is too young to be so cynical 21:08 ibeardslee unfortunately a big lotto win is more likely than less douchey politicians 21:06 wizzyrea so dumb, I know we can do better at carbon emissions. 21:06 ibeardslee yep .. paying for carbon credits so we can increase emmisions seems to be more important 21:05 wizzyrea yeah, or less douchey politicians 21:05 ibeardslee sigh .. for a big lotto win 21:04 wizzyrea *nod* 21:04 ibeardslee not that hard, .. although depends how you do it. if you can get network to a community centre and encourage people to use that, it is a start 21:04 wizzyrea though getting better maybe. 21:03 wizzyrea some places that still have line of sight phone 21:03 wizzyrea rural areas are a bit hard 21:03 wizzyrea exactly 21:03 ibeardslee we have a UFB network going through the country, we should be able to have a solid backbone that have ISPs peered 21:02 ibeardslee NZ should be able to do something like that in all libraries 21:02 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot it 21:02 wizzyrea forget it 21:02 wahanui okay, wizzyrea. 21:02 wizzyrea It is also testing its model with state library systems in Kansas and Maine. < NEKLS, to be exact. 21:01 wizzyrea some libraries in kansas doing it too, I'm told. 21:00 wizzyrea amazing eh 21:00 ibeardslee Good to see things like that happen 20:59 ibeardslee wizzyrea: ohhh 20:45 wizzyrea ibeardslee: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/12/04/new-york-city-libraries-soon-will-let-patrons-check-out-the-internet/ 20:26 * wizzyrea gives a monday wave 19:09 cait heh 19:08 drojf i accidentally added >2mb translation stuff to a patch. that would have had a nice impact on my contributed lines ;) 19:02 drojf sounds great :D 19:01 cait and one roses and one with rapsberry... i think 19:01 cait 2kg ritter sport surprise bag? :) 19:01 cait morning rangi 19:01 drojf cait: oh chocolate. what did you bring for us? :) 19:01 drojf hi rangi 19:00 rangi morning 18:59 rangi http://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences sweet aleisha fixed the scaling issue 18:51 cait we were at a chocolate christmas market... 18:50 drojf oh nice 18:49 cait sorry, just got back from a weekend trip 18:49 drojf that was fun :) 18:49 drojf hi 18:49 cait oh hey :) 18:49 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 18:49 drojf @later tell cait ok :) 18:49 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 18:49 cait @later tell drojf then we should fix it :) 18:48 cait hi #koha 14:34 jcamins drojf: not at all true, no. 14:11 drojf the message for zebra_bib_grs_warn on about.pl suggests that setting zebra_bib_index_mode to 'dom' is enough to switch to dom indexing. is that true these days? (given the mail on the list, i assume it is not, but it sounds like it is supposed to?) 12:38 huginn 04Bug 9248: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Failed QA , Add a German Zebra language definition file 12:38 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded. 12:38 drojf @later tell cait you mean like http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9248 ? ;) 12:33 drojf and since gprs is deprecated and all… 12:33 drojf we should have up to date information on that somewhere, there will be more people with the wrong zebra_*_index_mode 12:32 drojf i wasn't sure so i did not pass it around on the mailing list 12:31 drojf is this page still valid? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Switching_to_dom_indexing