Time Nick Message 23:59 eythian oh yeah, I haven't really ever considered zebra to be slow 23:52 tcohen what bothers me, is that no matter how fast is the next fancy indexing engine, we have a big/real bottleneck here 23:49 tcohen it spends most of the time reading from the DB (should all be already calculated and cached) and creating the MARC::Record obsject 23:48 tcohen dcook: 2.63s spent on searchResults => we need to do that XSLT thing 23:45 tcohen 165ms to get the facets from Zebra :/ 23:45 tcohen 260ms to load C4::Members! For a search! 23:44 tcohen hmm, I used nytprof for the first time 23:31 huginn tcohen: kathryn was last seen in #koha 1 day, 2 hours, 10 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <kathryn> hallo cait :) 23:31 tcohen @seen kathryn 23:29 eythian hmm, my watch is saying 24°. I wonder which is more correct. 23:29 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (12:00 PM NZDT on November 26, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 23:29 eythian @wunder nzwn 23:27 tcohen hi kathryn 23:24 eythian new master packages uploading 23:19 tcohen hopefully! 23:19 eythian we've been talking about getting the en-NZ translation re-finished too. Hopefully we get the chance. 23:18 tcohen kohacon++ 23:18 tcohen 3.18 is 100% translated into spanish, I love this guys! 23:17 eythian yay, finally got my pbuilder environment rebuilt properly after accidentally overwriting it. 23:15 tcohen hi Bob 23:15 BobB hi tcohen, eythian 23:14 eythian probably just a 'use' that needs to be removed 23:14 eythian tcohen: I think so 23:14 BobB hi bag 23:13 wahanui circular dependencies are a problem - sekjal has been looking at those, i think? 23:13 tcohen eythian: circular dependencies? 23:13 bag heya BobB 23:13 bag :) 23:13 wahanui rumour has it coolness is a factor way the hell down druthb's list, though it's on there. The ability to do druthb's editing in druthb's Editor Of Choice instead of that wonky one in WP was a big selling point, as was being able to version-control the whole site with git, and automate the upload. So far, I'm happy as a clam with this. I've got about another hours's work, and it'll be ready for me to throw WP overboard 23:13 bag coolness 23:12 eythian bag: hoping to fix the current issue with that today 23:12 huginn 04Bug 11998: major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues 23:12 bag http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11998 23:11 dcook Haven't tried Obnam yet, but yay for already being in Ubuntu 23:10 dcook liw++ 23:05 tcohen i don't intend to fix it, just trying to figure how to write some regression tests 23:04 eythian I'm trying to find a nice solution, but mostly failing 23:04 eythian yeah. 23:04 tcohen otherwise you end up with lots of tricks in the code 23:04 eythian hmm 23:04 tcohen heh, split the question: is_debarred = true| false and then take care of the date 23:04 eythian so, not blocked vs. blocked until a date vs. blocked indefinitely 23:03 eythian or whatever the one is that has a date 23:03 eythian how do you say "not debarred"? 23:03 eythian also, it gets problematic in some cases. 23:03 tcohen we seem to parse dates everywhere, just in case they are 999 23:03 eythian which could mean indefinite, but also could just mean "no value", depending on context 23:02 dcook tcohen: Dunno, but the 9999 thing is certainly weird 23:02 eythian null means "no value" 23:02 eythian hmm 23:02 tcohen shouldn't we use NULL for indefinite dates instead of 9999-...? 23:02 ibeardslee wizzyrea: Slings are good for babies. Of course you need a bit of a wind up before you let it go. 23:02 dcook ? 23:02 pianohacker wow, that word 23:02 dcook Which seemed reasonable enough at the time... 23:01 dcook I'd say "with two Hs" 23:01 dcook I used to like when people would ask me how to spell leichhardt 23:01 dcook lol 23:01 wizzyrea which is a lot to say for just paraparaumu. 23:01 wizzyrea "the place across from kapiti, just up from raumati" works for me. 23:00 dcook woolloomooloo used to throw me off, but I think I have it down now 22:59 dcook That's probably just how the Canadians pronounce it 22:59 wizzyrea but I feel weird calling it pram. 22:59 eythian yeah 22:59 dcook paraparaumu... para-para-umu? 22:59 wizzyrea though paraparaumu is really hard for me to say. 22:59 dcook We already have a sling/harness thing which seems rad 22:59 dcook wizzyrea: orly? 22:59 wizzyrea i had a pram, used it maybe 5x then it just took up space. 22:59 eythian it's pretty easy, there's a suburb here called Paraparaumu, and it's also called pram. 22:58 wizzyrea meh, put the baby in a sling :P 22:58 dcook I like pram better than stroller 22:58 dcook I don't know how perambulator ever became pram, but.. 22:57 pianohacker heh 22:57 dcook I hope not 22:57 wahanui ...but that is the intended behavior?... 22:57 dcook wahanui: yes, that is true 22:57 dcook lol 22:57 dcook perambulator 22:57 wahanui dcook, your favourite is the one with TWO New Zealands 22:57 dcook My favourite... 22:57 pianohacker ah, cool :) 22:57 dcook pianohacker, tcohen: strollers 22:55 eythian good, keeping busy 22:55 pianohacker also, hi eythian :) how are you? How's it going? 22:54 huginn pianohacker: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 22:54 pianohacker @english_dialects-- 22:54 tcohen (little car) 22:54 tcohen cochechito 22:54 eythian ah, probably 22:54 pianohacker strollers, maybe? 22:54 eythian what do you call them then? 22:53 eythian you don't have prams? 22:53 eythian no 22:53 pianohacker I think it's a UK/AU/NZ word 22:53 pianohacker cribs, right? 22:53 tcohen pram? 22:53 dcook wizzyrea: eeep! 22:53 dcook Maybe if we look at prams and then find it cheaper there, but the weight would probably make shipping a bit killer 22:52 dcook Of course, now I can't think of anything to buy in America :p 22:52 dcook eythian: Sweeet 22:52 eythian dcook: yeah, nzpost has the same thing 22:50 wizzyrea and 10 of those it's been deleting photos that I've just recently backed up 22:50 dcook Not super cheap, but it beats those times when sellers won't ship overseas 22:50 wizzyrea I've had it for all of 20 minutes now :) 22:50 tcohen do u like it? 22:50 wizzyrea I think so 22:49 dcook And they'll ship it back to you in Australia 22:49 dcook Apparently, Australia Post now has a warehouse in America where you can get stuff sent 22:49 tcohen so, is it pretty wizzyrea ? 22:49 wizzyrea :/ 22:47 tcohen (that's why they don't sell it here) 22:47 tcohen customs tend to be problematic here 22:47 * wizzyrea blinks 22:47 tcohen google wouldn't send it to argentina 22:47 tcohen *send it back 22:46 tcohen yeah, they don't sell it here, so a friend bought it, and i got to send it for replacement :'( 22:46 wizzyrea seriously? 22:45 tcohen my phone got it, but is stuck in barcelona right now, waiting for some friend to come to argentina 22:45 wizzyrea \o/ 22:45 wizzyrea finally got my android 5 update \o. 22:45 * dcook is guessing northwestern europe 22:44 dcook Whereabouts is liw these days? 22:43 wizzyrea europe time :) 22:43 huginn tcohen: liw was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 14 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: * liw gives drojf several: s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s (/me has a secret stash of s's for several situations) 22:43 tcohen @seen liw 22:39 dcook Need to keep those awful selfies from uni forever! 22:38 dcook As a librarian who loves computers and wishes he had done more archives courses, backups are pretty much my biggest data obsession 22:38 dcook Hope I catch him around sometime! 22:38 dcook eythian: I thought liw was the right person 22:37 cbrannon That was fun. :) 22:27 eythian dcook: liw is the best person to ask about obnam 22:26 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/about/ 22:26 cbrannon I wish I had know. I'll be back in 15 then. ;) 22:26 tcohen Filipino! 22:26 wizzyrea yep, 6 languages now. 22:26 eythian yep 22:25 cbrannon It does??? 22:25 wizzyrea you just have to turn them on. 22:25 eythian cbrannon: it has subtitles 22:25 wizzyrea the youtube has captions 22:25 cbrannon There is an awesome video floating around about Koha, from Kohacon14. I am bummed I can't understand the other languages. We need some subtitles. :) 22:24 dcook night tcohen 22:22 tcohen night dcook 22:21 dcook morning 22:05 huginn bag: The current temperature in Eastern Goleta Valley, Santa Barbara, California is 24.3°C (2:04 PM PST on November 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 8%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Falling). 22:05 bag @wunder 93111 21:52 eythian 21° now. Madness. 21:52 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on November 26, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 21:52 eythian @wunder nzwn 21:51 * magnuse wanders off to catch some sleep 21:51 magnuse eythian++ btw 21:50 magnuse maybe send an email to the list(s) and remind people to test? 21:50 eythian I should do another build now 21:50 eythian actually, I think it built 100% last time I did, so I didn't add more. 21:50 magnuse cool, thanks 21:49 eythian magnuse: yeah, more or less 21:49 tcohen beta+bonuses :-P 21:47 magnuse the current squeeze-dev is the beta, right? 21:47 magnuse kia ora eythian 21:43 tcohen hi eythian 21:40 eythian hi 21:16 wizzyrea we have clients using ldap 21:16 tcohen ashimema has been diggin' on the use cases 21:15 tcohen wajasu, I'm not sure 21:14 wajasu by the way, do you know who on the channel is the ldap end user, so if i have a question and they are around ... 21:13 tcohen wajasu++ 21:13 wajasu i think i can do the 12831 ldap, and i'll try 13332 as well. 21:13 tcohen thanks 21:13 pianohacker tcohen: cool. Congratulations on the baby :) 21:12 wizzyrea we like their hearts beating. 21:12 tcohen but is important too 21:12 wizzyrea items disappearing gives many a librarian heart attacks. 21:12 tcohen i think of it as a simpler one 21:12 tcohen ah yes 21:11 wizzyrea 13332 seems pretty important as well 21:11 tcohen wajasu: the last two are prety important 21:11 wizzyrea ^ says cait 21:11 wizzyrea ah before i forget - we still need sign offs for a couple of bugs: bug 13332 bug 13215 and bug 12831 21:11 wizzyrea I'm not sure "behave" is the word I'd use, I'm not sure that the writeoff thing isn't a problem 21:11 wajasu i'm going to work signoffs tonight. any i should prioritize? 21:10 tcohen heh 21:10 tcohen pianohacker: all pretty messy here, baby coming, release in a couple days, lots of stuff to do! 21:09 cait night tcohen :) - overdues seem to behave now, don't worry :) 21:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12669 major, P5 - low, ---, rolando.isidoro, Needs Signoff , "Template process failed: undef error - Invalid local time for date in time zone" 21:09 cait bug 12669 21:09 tcohen night cait 21:09 tcohen heh 21:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12831 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , local only logins should still work when ldap authentication is enabled 21:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13215 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , letter.code is considered as a primary key 21:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13332 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Items disappear from staff detail page when there is an on-site checkout 21:08 cait ah before i forget - we still need sign offs for a couple of bugs: bug 13332 bug 13215 and bug 12831 21:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13152 - Duplicate phone hold notices when using Talking Tech <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3fe0bdb316ef2ea901dabc9f97d4dd30dacf3f9> / Bug 12298: DBRev 3.17.00.060 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec6a50b2fe502f14738aef82dc30564a335a224b> / Bug 12298: The "feed" MTT does not seem to be used and can be removed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha 21:06 pianohacker good, good. Very busy with school, thus my limited time in channel :) And you? 21:06 tcohen how have you been? 21:06 tcohen it's been a while! 21:06 pianohacker hi tcohen 21:05 tcohen ahi pianohacker 21:04 * tcohen was setting a clean DB to start testing 21:04 tcohen cait! 21:04 pianohacker darnit 21:04 pianohacker hi cait 21:04 cait hi pianohacker - bye pianohacker :) 21:04 cait thx :) 21:03 wizzyrea sleep well though 21:03 wizzyrea tl;dr: it doesn't use an iframe, fixes the problem. 21:02 wizzyrea *nod* 21:02 cait i think he wasn't around today 21:02 cait couldn't test yet - but left owen a later :) 21:02 wizzyrea for something not-stressful. 21:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12123 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , HTML notices can break the notice viewer 21:02 wizzyrea hey, did you see what I did for bug 12123? 21:01 wizzyrea but, it did mess up my test case. hrmph. 21:01 cait ok,i htink i need to stop testing for tonight 21:01 cait heh same for me 21:01 * wizzyrea does not argue with oleonard 21:01 cait because owen specifically brought it back :) 21:01 wizzyrea ok good. 21:01 cait i think it's the old behaviour 21:00 wizzyrea i'm not sure it's different from the old behaviour. 21:00 wizzyrea that seems like a recipe for unintended renewals. 21:00 wizzyrea so when you click "renew or return checked items" it is going to return the ticked one, plus all of the ticked overdues 20:59 wizzyrea I guess it ticks overdue items by default for renewal? 20:59 wizzyrea maybe it's not so strange. 20:59 wizzyrea I ticked one box to return 20:59 wizzyrea I just had something strange happen. 20:59 wizzyrea ... 20:56 cait but i am undecided if i think it's wrong 20:56 wizzyrea Hooray! 20:56 wizzyrea right, ok, so with a fresh borrower, items that haven't been waived for anyone today, fines are calculating ok! 20:56 cait i didn't :) 20:54 wizzyrea are we expecting that? 20:54 wizzyrea that must be it 20:54 wizzyrea I'll do a whole new borrower 20:54 cait independent of the finesonreturn pref 20:54 cait what i see is: once i had the fine waived, it won't set it again 20:54 cait can you use an item you haven't used in testing yet? on that account? 20:54 wizzyrea yes, yes I did 20:53 cait wizzyrea: did you waive a find efor one of those items today? 20:53 wizzyrea but still I'm 3 charges short. 20:53 wizzyrea yeah, without I get 1/4 charges 20:53 cait trying without on my installation now 20:53 cait also i think lots of libraries use both - i wouldn't say fix 20:53 cait not that i know of 20:52 wahanui wizzyrea: that doesn't look right 20:52 wizzyrea or change it? 20:52 wizzyrea did we fix that recently? 20:52 wizzyrea mmm yeah, that's not how it used to be. 20:52 cait that's not right 20:51 tcohen so, if calculate fines at checkin is set, fines.pl is not supposed to do anything 20:49 wizzyrea sigh. 20:49 wizzyrea appearl. 20:49 wizzyrea I just turned off "calculate fines at checkin" and i got one of four fines to appearl. 20:48 cait ... but now it works for me 20:48 cait same here 20:47 wizzyrea but the fines are not in accountlines 20:47 wizzyrea it reports 3 fines 20:47 wizzyrea then I run misc/cronjobs/fines.pl -v 20:47 cait similar here 20:47 wizzyrea FinesMode is set to Calculate and Charge 20:46 wizzyrea is specifying a due date 2 weeks in the past when I check out 20:46 wizzyrea yeah, what I've been doing 20:46 tcohen wizzyrea: can u help me reproduce it? 20:44 wizzyrea these ones are calculated by fines.pl. 20:44 wizzyrea not these ones 20:43 tcohen and they are calculated on check-in 20:43 wizzyrea it's not a display problem, the fines aren't there. 20:43 wizzyrea no, the fines aren't appearing in the db, tcohen 20:42 tcohen i'm pushing some more stuff, sorry for the noise 20:42 wizzyrea on yesterday's code 20:41 wizzyrea it works on a new borrower, with fresh overdues 20:41 tcohen /svc/checkin is to blame 20:41 cait are you on the most current? 20:41 cait wizzyrea: actually i updated to latest master, - but it was just a few commits and the change from yesterday 20:40 cait fnes tab is not using ajax :( 20:40 tcohen not showing data 20:40 tcohen maybe is a problem in the AJAX front 20:39 tcohen can u please check the DB? 20:39 wizzyrea ) 20:39 wizzyrea (not including my patch for 12123 20:39 wizzyrea it ends at 4c1ae53d861e20051a776f0195f5da1cfa9a24e3 20:38 wizzyrea I have a branch with yesterday's code 20:38 wizzyrea in fact 20:37 cait have to plug the laptop in, brb 20:37 wizzyrea mine are .50/day, no limit. 20:37 cait i have a cent a day, no grace eriod, up to a 1 20:37 wizzyrea same as they were yesterday when I was getting fines. 20:37 cait circulation conditions? 20:37 cait i am not sure yet 20:37 wizzyrea mine have no such restrictions, and none of them are getting fines. 20:37 cait ok, this one is damaged too 20:36 cait the one was damaged 20:36 cait i tried another book 20:36 wizzyrea what did you change? 20:36 cait it's weird - isn't it? 20:35 wizzyrea and I should have 20:35 wizzyrea I haven't gotten one yet. 20:35 wizzyrea I am definitely seeing the same issue as you. 20:35 cait but i don't understand why it wasn't there before 20:35 wizzyrea oh? 20:35 cait wizzyrea: got a fine now 20:33 wizzyrea hm no it's not that. 20:32 wizzyrea well... how are you running your fines job? 20:32 wizzyrea that is problematic. 20:31 cait no fines on return either 20:29 cait so weird 20:29 cait it only touches svc/checkin - so i ruled it out 20:29 wizzyrea it's not that one. 20:28 * wizzyrea reverts that patch from yesterday 20:28 wizzyrea it completely did yesterday. 20:28 wizzyrea yeah, it's definitely not calculating fines now. 20:27 cait but still not calculating fines 20:27 cait ok, i have the withdrawn item gone from my account 20:26 cait i am going crazy here 20:26 cait they still calculated then 20:26 cait for the bug you tested 20:26 cait i did test it yesterday 20:25 wizzyrea you are right about the fines, they are not calculating on master. 20:24 wizzyrea :o 20:24 cait and it doesn't save :( 20:24 cait in the item editor 20:24 cait but now... i am trying to remove the withdrawn 20:24 cait yeah me neither 20:23 wizzyrea I can hardly keep them all straight anymore. 20:23 wizzyrea isn't there a syspref about not allowing withdrawn items to be checked in? 20:22 cait it shows a line in the return table but at the same time says the item is withdrawn not checked in.. tak about logis 20:22 cait the item is wiethdrawn 20:22 cait i see what's happening 20:22 cait ok 20:21 wizzyrea one moment. 20:21 wizzyrea hm, I should update master before I say this. 20:21 wizzyrea fwiw 20:21 wizzyrea well 20:21 wizzyrea O.o 20:21 * cait feels like going grazy 20:21 cait and still shows on the account 20:21 cait but... it is :( 20:21 cait it says: item not checked out 20:21 cait i just returned an item from the account using the check in 20:20 cait ook ... it's gets more horror 20:19 cait calculate and charge 20:19 wizzyrea ok good :) 20:19 cait meant that one 20:19 cait ah yes 20:19 wizzyrea FinesMode? 20:18 cait ... and yes, fineslog is ok 20:18 * wizzyrea had that problem yesterday 20:18 cait but the log the fines.pl script outputs says there shoudl be fines 20:18 wizzyrea is your syspref set to calculate and charge? 20:18 cait and no fines are on my account 20:17 cait i am running the fines.pl script 20:17 cait i am on master 20:17 cait ok 20:15 wizzyrea it's 9am, that never happens. 20:15 drojf :/ 20:15 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berolinastr., Berlin-Mitte, Berlin, Germany is 5.0°C (9:15 PM CET on November 25, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 20:15 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 20:15 wizzyrea oh my lordie. so hot. 20:15 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on November 26, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). 20:15 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 18:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12959 - Check in forgets to remember arbitrary backdating of returns setting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a283e0b94e1010ca834589e33296e0380da8078> / Bug 10749: DBRev 3.17.00.059 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=754a9d8245c57d5eb268a7116a42f69c2ca396a0> / Bug 10749: Fix typo in budget_add_del permission <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; 18:35 cait yes, around now 18:34 tcohen cait: around? 18:32 tcohen hi cait 18:20 cait hi again #koha 18:14 tcohen hi bag 18:14 bag morning 17:41 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 17:41 tcohen @later tell mtompset we have fillipino subs! 17:37 tcohen did u get any answers for your call for sign-ofF? 17:37 tcohen Joubu: hi 17:37 wahanui hey, tcohen 17:37 tcohen hi 16:57 gaetan_B bye 16:55 Joubu have a good night/day #koha 16:04 Joubu kivilahtio: around? 15:15 reiveune1 bye 14:46 khall yes, it is a very serious bug 14:45 Joubu khall: Is it still major? Do we need this patch for 3.18? 14:45 khall Joubu: I have no idea 14:44 Joubu what mean "reported numbers"? 14:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11872 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Lost overdue items should not generate fines 14:44 Joubu khall: Hi! Do you understand the Srdjan's request on bug 11872? 13:52 cait have to run - bye all 13:51 cait hi mveron - thx for testing the letters patch 13:51 mveron Hi #koha 13:48 cait heh 13:46 magnuse oh noes, pootle is back 13:46 magnuse ah, pootle is back 13:32 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 13:32 cait @later tell oleonard - could you take another look at bug 12123? 13:19 khall magnuse: np! 13:13 magnuse sorry for the fqa, khall 13:13 magnuse huh? 13:09 cait magnuse++ 12:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13332 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Items disappear from staff detail page when there is an on-site checkout 12:53 cait bug 13332 12:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=133332 was not found. 12:53 cait bug 133332 12:53 cait our bug :) 12:53 cait ? 12:53 cait can someone take a look at my bug with the vanishing items 12:52 magnuse will do! 12:50 khall can you test this version of the patch and see if those are still problems? 12:49 magnuse i did have a couple of issues that are not solved by a rebase, though: sorting of dates and the reuse of special_holidays.isexception to mark open/closed 12:48 magnuse possibly 12:48 khall I guess jesse must keep re-using his original patch instead of basing any changes on the submitted patch 12:47 magnuse rangi signed off at one point too... 12:47 khall magnuse: I added wajasu's s/o back on to the patch, but I think an additional s/o from you would be most welcome : ) 12:44 khall hmm, it looks like the patch lost it's signoff by wajasu at some point 12:44 magnuse hehe, that was quick :-) 12:43 khall magnuse: bug 11211 is now rebased 12:42 magnuse any idea when? 12:42 magnuse goody! 12:39 khall magnuse: absolutely! 12:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8133 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , hourly loans doesn't know when library closed 12:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Patch doesn't apply , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar 12:39 magnuse khall around? we are curious about the state of bug 11211 and bug 8133 - do you think pianohacker or you will be able to revisit them? 12:37 * magnuse crosses fingers 12:28 ashimema can I have some ;) 12:28 ashimema cake baking cait.. 12:28 ashimema ? 11:36 cait if you are not busy signing off bugs critical to release.... cross fingers ;) 11:35 * cait is baking the first cake in the new oven - lemon 10:29 drojf thanks liw *shoves some s into his pocket* 10:29 * cait gives some ... also good to have just in case 10:28 * liw gives drojf several: s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s, s (/me has a secret stash of s's for several situations) 10:28 cait did you party last night? :P 10:27 drojf and an extra s 10:27 * drojf need caffeine 10:26 drojf hi cait :) 10:25 cait congratulations!!! 10:25 cait hi drojf 10:23 ashimema emailed him.. 10:23 drojf hi #koha 10:21 cait ashimema: he often is logged in... butnot really here anyway 10:21 magnuse i have had success with email before :-) 10:21 magnuse he probably fell off and didn't log in again 10:19 ashimema logged in.. I don't see him logged in? 10:19 cait well he is logged in, but ont reading 10:19 cait ashimema: he is never here - best to drop him an email 10:18 ashimema anyone know what's happened to dpavlin 10:18 ashimema as it's a crit for release :( 10:18 ashimema I'm really plugging this one.. needs a sign-off asap 10:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12831 critical, P2, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , local only logins should still work when ldap authentication is enabled 10:17 ashimema any ldap users out here fancy testing bug 12831.. 09:04 magnuse you can look for yourself wahanui: http://translate.koha-community.org/ 09:03 wahanui Can we get some hard data on that? 09:03 magnuse looks like it 08:59 cait i think probably still problems 08:58 cait yeah 08:47 magnuse internal server error from pootle today? 08:25 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B 08:25 gaetan_B hello 07:58 magnuse hm, did someone say something about adding one page per library in the opac, to list opening hours, holidays, contact information etc, or did i dream it? 07:56 alex_a bonjour 07:49 wahanui kia ora, reiveune 07:49 reiveune hi 07:48 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 07:48 magnuse @later tell paul_p i think http://www.biblibre.com/en/blog/newsletter-biblibre-november-2014 needs a s/Oslo/Stockholm/ :-) 07:46 magnuse magnuse> dcook: the pastes seem to be cleared out when they reach the 200's. i think maybe rangi does it? 07:45 magnuse <dcook> Koha pastes don't stay around forever do they? 07:40 reiveune hello 07:39 wahanui goodnight dcook. You'll be back. 07:39 dcook night all 07:38 dcook Too much work and not enough dcooks 07:38 dcook Ahh, when did it become 6:38pm? 07:36 dcook That's not confusing :p 07:36 dcook Oh man... we have a "aqcontacts" and an "aqcontracts" table... 07:36 dcook magnuse: hmm? 06:13 magnuse dcook: the pastes seem to be cleared out when they reach the 200's. i think maybe rangi does it? 06:12 * magnuse waves 05:09 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "hidden values" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/295 05:08 dcook Koha pastes don't stay around forever do they? 05:08 dcook Hmm... 04:30 dcook It's what I use at home 04:30 dcook Yeah, I've been pretty happy with it overall 04:29 eythian I've imported all sorts of madness into it for viewing and it often does a good job. 04:29 eythian LO's CSV reader seems to be reasonably robust 04:25 * dcook hides before the insults come :p 04:25 dcook Sweet. I have LibreOffice as well. Boo Microsoft... 04:22 dcook Gotta love when Microsoft admits that Excel isn't up to the task of exporting CSV... 04:00 dcook I might take another look tomorrow after I clear some stuff 04:00 wizzyrea yeah pick one ;) 04:00 dcook no worries 04:00 dcook Although there are many retrofits which should probably happen 04:00 wizzyrea thanks for having a look at it 04:00 wizzyrea anyway, I've got the head out :) 03:59 wizzyrea it's a retrofit that probably should happen. 03:59 dcook Valid point :p 03:59 wizzyrea if we were using that routinely for the staff client heh 03:59 dcook So "Type" and "Status" would be class 1, "Time" would be class 2, Notice would be class 6 03:59 dcook You'd have like "1, 2, 4, 6, etc" 03:58 dcook Mmm, maybe. Although that's why grid systems like bootstrap exist, no? 03:57 wizzyrea so you'd end up with a gazillion rules. 03:57 wizzyrea it's a problem. and every table is a bit different 03:57 dcook (although I've wondered about how we're doing that now that we're using LESS?) 03:56 dcook Ideally I'd like them in an external stylesheet 03:56 dcook Hmm guess not 03:56 * dcook checks 03:56 dcook Do we have a coding guideline about that? 03:56 dcook Well, the patch fixes the bug. I'm a bit meh over adding styling in general. I think I'm against it as inline styles. 03:55 dcook haha 03:55 wizzyrea fixing the bugs and not worrying about the styling ;) 03:55 dcook ? 03:54 wizzyrea ^ how we get shitty interfaces, tbh. 03:54 wizzyrea note: I don't like it, but I'd rather fix the bug than worry about the styling. 03:54 dcook Let me take a look 03:54 dcook Ahh 03:54 dcook I like yours better :p 03:54 wizzyrea (there's a new patch) 03:54 wizzyrea ;) 03:53 wizzyrea how about this one then? 03:52 dcook Yeah, I didn't like that 03:50 wizzyrea it put the stuff in an iframe. 03:50 wizzyrea yeah, that was kyle's patch. 03:50 dcook I was totally lost by that screenshot that cait attached :S 03:50 wizzyrea all squished. 03:50 wizzyrea if you look at the screenshot cait attached, it looks more like mine 03:49 wizzyrea weird, that's exactly the opposite of my experience 03:48 dcook It jumps around a bit with the CSS it seems 03:48 dcook Actually, mine looks worse with the CSS :/ 03:48 wizzyrea does it hurt anything, I guess is the question. 03:48 wizzyrea righty o. 03:47 dcook I'm not sure what to tell you then :/ 03:47 wizzyrea it still does the thing 03:47 wizzyrea yep 03:47 dcook Just fixing the "p" to "div"? 03:47 dcook Have you tried without the CSS? 03:47 wizzyrea my chromium *might* be out of date though. 03:46 wizzyrea firefox is the same. 03:46 wizzyrea note, those screenshots were all on chromium 03:46 dcook Except I didn't need the CSS 03:46 wizzyrea with patch, open: http://i.imgur.com/ZJkrVfm.png 03:46 dcook Yeah, those layouts are similar to mine 03:45 wizzyrea with patch, closed: http://i.imgur.com/a7HxRZU.png 03:44 wizzyrea http://i.imgur.com/BeisGeu.png without patch, after expand 03:43 wizzyrea without patch, before expand: http://i.imgur.com/2yMcAjp.png 03:42 dcook Weird :S 03:42 wizzyrea with the patch, it's the same width no matter 03:42 wizzyrea I don't have chrome 03:42 wizzyrea well on chromium it behaves the same as on firefox 03:42 dcook For instance, my "Notice" column is actually 828 instead of 600px 03:41 dcook Even when table-layout: fixed is used, Datatables appears to recalculate the sizes of columns 03:40 dcook Notably on... the detail page? 03:39 dcook I think I've run into the issue you're describing before on IE though? 03:39 wizzyrea aha 03:39 dcook Chrome 03:39 wizzyrea is that firefox? or something else? 03:39 dcook It doesn't expand jarringly when I open it 03:39 dcook But when the table loads, it's already wide 03:39 dcook The Hold Placed on Item notice is pretty wide 03:38 dcook without patch: http://imgur.com/MAM033S,cbPHAW0#1 03:38 dcook with patch: http://imgur.com/MAM033S,cbPHAW0#0 03:37 wizzyrea wrap the text* 03:36 wizzyrea I wanted it to wrap the notices within a fixed column size, instead of them expanding, jarringly, when uncollapsed 03:36 dcook So is the fix to make the columns wider? 03:36 dcook Hmm... 03:35 wizzyrea the styling is a fix for that ugly table. 03:35 dcook Right 03:35 dcook Hmm, maybe I'll do some screenshots 03:35 wizzyrea the styling isn't a fix for the bug. 03:35 wizzyrea :) 03:35 wizzyrea if that's what is upsetting you 03:35 wizzyrea they could be separate patches. 03:35 dcook I'll just write on the bug :) 03:35 dcook Maybe I'm not explaining myself right 03:35 wizzyrea then why is mine different? 03:35 dcook I'll comment on the bug :) 03:34 dcook But I'm not sure it's actually working? 03:34 dcook It looks like the cause of the busting was because we were trying to stuff HTML into a "p" element, so you switched it to a "div" element which took it all like a champ 03:34 wizzyrea for my sense of calm? yes. 03:34 wizzyrea strictly speaking? no. 03:34 dcook Right, but is the styling necessary? 03:33 wizzyrea http://i.imgur.com/bUjuCff.png and this with 03:33 dcook Mhm 03:32 wizzyrea http://i.imgur.com/JwUOBG7.png < this is what it looks like on mine without the patch 03:32 dcook Nope. Not sure what you mean :( 03:32 dcook I'll try with a smaller window width..that might be it 03:31 dcook It looks pretty much the same 03:31 dcook I do have a notice that is super wide :/ 03:31 wizzyrea mmm not when your notice is very wide 03:31 dcook I just removed that styling and it looks all right 03:31 dcook I don't see why :S 03:30 wizzyrea and you'll see why 03:30 wizzyrea have a look at it without the patch 03:30 wizzyrea yes, to make it not ugly :) 03:30 dcook It looks like your changing "p" to "div" would've been enough? 03:30 dcook wizzyrea: Was there a reason you added table-layout: fixed, and added widths for the columns? 03:30 dcook Hmm 03:23 dcook Unless that was always the case... in that case... that was always cool 03:23 dcook That's pretty cool 03:23 dcook I'm a bit intrigued by how we're now creating a single email instead of multiple emails for checkouts 03:20 dcook Hmm, that is an annoying bug.. 03:18 dcook Even though I'd demand it as a library patron myself 03:18 dcook Almost none of our libraries use checkout emails 03:18 dcook Didn't have checkout emails set up 03:18 dcook Dinger... 03:16 dcook currently helping out wizzyrea 03:16 dcook eythian that is 03:16 * dcook will take a look in a bit :p 03:15 eythian http://www.nzherald.co.nz/economy/news/article.cfm?c_id=34&objectid=11363833 <-- dcook, just fyi :D 03:12 dcook I have the power... 03:12 wizzyrea eek lol. 03:12 dcook Let's see if I can do that and two other things at once ;) 03:12 wizzyrea \o/ woot thanks :) 03:12 dcook k, i'll take a little looksy 03:11 wizzyrea it's a display one 03:11 dcook Mmm, k 03:11 dcook cgi-bin/koha/members/notices.pl 03:11 wizzyrea it's on the member detail, tab "notices" 03:10 dcook What's the notice viewer? 03:10 dcook not be collapsible, be uncollapsible... 03:08 dcook hmm 02:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12123 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , HTML notices can break the notice viewer 02:56 wizzyrea bug 12123 02:54 dcook Mmm, maybe? 02:52 wizzyrea dcook - you have a couple of minutes and want to check something simple? 02:52 wizzyrea STDC++ NZICA++ and a few other libraries that I can't remember - they paid for it. 02:04 dcook rangi++ 02:04 dcook legend! 02:04 dcook yay 01:51 wizzyrea erm, I think he's gone away but yes, it does. 01:37 dcook rangi: it works in both the opac and the staff client? 01:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7187 enhancement, P4, ---, kmkale, ASSIGNED , Prioritize cover image sources such as Amazon, Google and add fail over i.e. if first source fails, go to next 01:37 dcook bug 7187 01:36 * dcook tries to recall the bug number 01:36 dcook rangi: sweet as :) 01:22 rangi yeah it's almost done, stuff is on the bug about it 01:06 dcook Yeah, it was a while ago that I saw something about it. I'm just curious about it now as someone is asking questions :) 01:04 eythian I think it was rangi, but I can't remember for sure, I last saw someting about it a while ago. 01:04 dcook From Catalyst or elsewhere? 01:04 eythian I forget who 01:04 eythian someone is 01:03 dcook eythian, wizzyrea, rangi: Are you folks working on that feature where the first cover image for a record is found and shown even when multiple images are available? 00:07 AmitG hi tcohen 00:06 tcohen whatsup AmitG 00:02 AmitG rangi around? 00:02 AmitG liz around? 00:02 AmitG hi