Time Nick Message 23:46 dcook Or not... that was weird 23:46 dcook Tried it again and now I think I've broken something.. 23:46 dcook Hmm 23:45 dcook Thanks guys :) 23:45 wahanui i guess Beautiful! is that a "moving to jquery (ui)" thing? 23:45 dcook Beautiful! 23:43 eythian rebase -i makes it very easy to cut/paste things around 23:43 dcook I was going to do rebase -i then just ignore B 23:43 dcook Mmm, I hadn't thought of reordering them... interesting 23:43 rangi it often works just fine 23:43 eythian the easy way to find out is to try 23:43 rangi and squash 23:43 eythian it might work, it might give you conflicts 23:43 rangi reorder them 23:43 dcook I can't imagine there being any problems there 23:43 rangi just rebase -i 23:42 dcook C touches on files changed in A, but B is completely unrelated 23:42 dcook Ideally, I'd like to squash A and C together 23:42 dcook A, B, and C 23:42 dcook So, I have three in a row 23:42 dcook I've been thinking about squashing some commits in Git 23:41 dcook Actually, while you two are around... 23:38 dcook Thanks for confirming, eythian and rangi :) 23:38 dcook Then we use updatedatabase.pl to update the database for existing installs.. 23:37 dcook I guess kohastructure.sql can be run on a clean DB then they can make the resultsets from there 23:37 rangi yep for the time being yes 23:37 dcook Mm, and we still update kohastructure.sql 23:37 eythian I think that's it, yeah 23:37 dcook And the release manager handles adding the DBIC resultsets? 23:37 dcook We still use updatedatabase.pl? 23:36 dcook Anyone around who can offer some insight about how database updates are managed these days? 23:01 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 23:01 eythian @later tell tcohen can't build 3.18 beta: http://paste.koha-community.org/290 23:00 pastebot "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "3.18 beta doesn't build" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/290 22:31 mveron good night / daytime #koha 22:21 nengard cbrannon you're awesome 22:19 cbrannon nengard, I e-mailed the answer to you. 22:17 cbrannon Ack, doesn't translate. I'll e-mail it to you. 22:17 cbrannon nengard of Vahalla, the magic is $("#holdst th:nth-child(6),#holdst td:nth-child(6)").hide(); 22:05 nengard okay - i'll tell them we're trying but it might not be possible 22:05 nengard yuck 22:04 cbrannon nengard, not having any luck yet. Still working on it. So far it just breaks the page. 21:46 nengard hehe 21:46 cbrannon should be easy enough. Just testing. 21:45 cbrannon working on it 21:45 nengard is there maybe no answer 21:45 * nengard is worrying at how long this is taking cbrannon ... 21:31 cait bye all 21:31 cait ok :) time fo rme to sleep 21:30 cbrannon yes. Thank you. I will look at the framework as soon as I find an answer for nengard. :) 21:30 cait cbrannon: did you see my pm? 21:29 nengard :) hehe 21:29 * cait loves having cbrannon to help nengard and with qa soon :) 21:28 * nengard loves having cbrannon help her :) 21:28 cbrannon give me a sec... 21:28 nengard so i want to hide the column if i can 21:28 nengard yup 21:28 cait ok, tht complicates :) 21:28 nengard :) 21:28 cait ah 21:28 nengard they want to be able to suspend all but not individual 21:28 cait i think cbrannon might be right 21:28 cait hm 21:28 nengard just can you suspend or not 21:28 nengard nope 21:27 cbrannon isn't there a preference for that feature? 21:27 nengard i agree 21:27 wahanui ideas are good :) 21:27 nengard ideas? 21:27 nengard doesn't work 21:27 nengard $("#holdst th:contains['Suspend']").hide(); 21:27 nengard $("#holdst td:contains['Suspend']").hide(); 21:27 nengard I'm trying to hide the suspend column on the opac 21:27 nengard :) 21:25 wahanui Don't ask to ask, just ask. 21:25 eythian wahanui: ask 21:24 nengard anyone around who can help with some jquery? 21:14 eythian hi cait 21:14 cait hi eythian 21:09 wahanui hola, eythian 21:09 eythian hi 20:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12376 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , blinking cursor not clear in larger resolutions 20:48 mveron experience... Bug 12376 20:48 mveron Sometimes 2 pixels can greatly enhance user xerience - 20:32 wizzyrea haha 20:32 mveron ...and goulash stroganow... :-) 20:32 cait impressive :) 20:32 wizzyrea lol 1. fun theme 2. good interpretations 20:31 mveron I did it a couple of weeks ago for a James Bond dinner for a friend of ours. The wedges for Gold Finger, sea salt for diamonds are forever, mango cream for the mango song of Swiss Ursula Andress. And russian salade... 20:29 wizzyrea beetroot would be awesome like that. 20:29 cait and a salad 20:29 cait so i had potato wedges and celery stripes for dinner tonight :) 20:29 wizzyrea aha 20:29 cait mveron recommended baking celery in the oven like you do potato wedges 20:28 wizzyrea I may have to read the scrollback 20:28 cait :) 20:28 mveron And sea salt, the one with big cristals 20:27 mveron Yes. 20:27 cait maybe next time - raw beets? 20:27 mveron I like it very much. The same with beetroot... 20:26 cait it was really nice 20:26 cait mveron: thx for the tip with the celery 20:25 mveron Oh, partytime? - Coming from a dinner I had with my brother... 20:25 cait well... we could have one? 20:25 wizzyrea is there a party!? 20:25 cait hi mveron :) showing up for the beta release party? :) 20:25 mveron Good evening / daytime #koha 20:23 nengard and cait 20:23 nengard thanks wizzyrea 20:23 wizzyrea schema definitely says that the link is biblionumber. 20:19 cait hm multiple suggestions for the same record maybe... but that is a problem currently anyway... we are not dealing well with duplicate wishes 20:18 cait i think it should still work ok... at least i fail to find a problem use case right now 20:17 nengard was thinking the suggestionid would be in the aqorders table 20:16 cait maybe a bit sloppy :) 20:16 nengard okay 20:16 cait hm makes sense to me 20:15 nengard that seems kind of sloppy 20:15 nengard hmmm 20:14 cait aqorders - biblio - suggestions 20:14 cait nengard: suggestions has a biblionumber column ,that would be my guess 20:13 cait maybe by biblionumber 20:13 cait hm an ordered suggestion? 20:11 nengard hey all, i'm trying to find out how a purchase suggestion is linked to a order in the db 20:07 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/koha-3-18-beta-released/ I can't get this to misbehave 20:05 * cait hopes tcohen listens to himself 20:04 * cait waves at wizzyrea 20:03 wizzyrea hi 19:34 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 19:34 tcohen @later tell tcohen have a nice evening, try to relax now 19:33 cait :) 19:31 tcohen koha++ 19:31 cait koha++ 19:28 cait wohoo tcohen++ 19:27 nengard YUM 19:27 * cait made potato wedges! in the new oven! 19:26 cait :) 19:26 cait heh .9 19:25 ashimema :) 19:24 tcohen sneaky oleonard 19:20 oleonard Ooh I spy a 3.18 beta 19:14 nengard knew it was something small and silly 19:14 nengard which i guess you put in :) 19:14 nengard oleonard .... i was missing the $ 19:13 nengard off to check 19:13 nengard hmmm - okay then maybe a problem in the jquery above it in the pref 19:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev 3.17.00.057 (Koha 3.18 beta) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6cd7c24c11d46bed02601b0e63e62ade2995df8d> / Bug 9043: DBRev 3.17.00.056 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b500b996efca363fac8f908ed54f9647933f939> / Bug 9043: The comma (,) should be kept to separate multi-valuated prefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dddde5896 19:12 oleonard I don't know what to tell you nengard, it works for me. 19:11 nengard http://screencast.com/t/IcmtpoUmpItI 19:11 nengard thought maybe i was missing a quote 19:10 nengard hence my confusion 19:10 nengard yup 19:09 oleonard nengard: Did you use Firebug to inspect the elements and confirm the attributes you're targeting? 19:01 nengard this is simple stuff 19:01 nengard has to be something small i'm missing 19:01 nengard oleonard ^^ 19:01 nengard ("#memberentry_altaddress label[for='altcontactfirstname']").html("Organization"); 19:01 nengard okay, why the heck isn't this working? 18:57 khall thanks for the heads up! 18:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12971 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Regression: Patron print summary doesn't show checkouts 18:57 oleonard khall: Bug 12971 needs a GPL license fix 18:56 khall wait, what did I just miss? ; ) 18:55 wahanui khall is volunteering to come over and fix it for you, it seems. ;) 18:55 oleonard khall? 18:26 tcohen bywater 18:01 cait ohoh 18:01 tcohen was waiting for you 18:01 tcohen cait: 17:46 tcohen I love the dropdown list too ;) 17:46 tcohen oleonard: indeed! 17:41 oleonard Looks good to me tcohen 17:36 oleonard I find it interesting that libraries can now configure the advanced search "more options" view to have fewer options 17:28 oleonard Working on it tcohen 17:26 * tcohen is anxious :-P 17:26 tcohen :-D 17:26 tcohen have you manged to test it? 17:25 oleonard ? 17:23 tcohen oleonard: ? 17:06 tcohen yeap 17:05 oleonard Oh are all the other patches pushed? I didn't realize. 17:04 tcohen and it applies cleanly, yes 17:04 tcohen oleonard: it is just the latest patch 17:04 oleonard tcohen: Does 9043 apply cleanly for you? 16:56 gerundio go ahead, I haven't yet 16:56 oleonard Thanks for helping diagnose the bug. I'll file a report for that if you haven't already. 16:56 gerundio oleonard, thanks for the heads up on that 16:53 reiveune bye 16:47 oleonard gerundio: If there's no reason for it, you can turn it on and turn off OPACPopupAuthorsSearch 16:47 oleonard gerundio: So it is important to find out why the OPAC xslt view is turned off 16:44 gerundio I think that they want to jump directly into the search results for each link 16:44 oleonard gerundio: I wouldn't expect someone to have turned off the xslt view in the OPAC unless they wanted a specific feature which wasn't available with xslt 16:43 gerundio most of the time I think they don't 16:43 oleonard gerundio: I hope that the people in charge of configuring the features understand what the options are 16:43 gerundio my question here originated from a complaint from our librarians who just said something like "all almost links from OPAC don't work" :) 16:42 gerundio oleonard, I just deal with the technical point of view of Koha, not the intended features 16:42 oleonard gerundio: For example: http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=201776 16:41 oleonard gerundio: Or do you want the link to jump directly to a subject search? 16:41 oleonard gerundio: I confirm the problem you describe. I'm curious: Is that subject search feature what you want? 16:41 tcohen if it's ok, sign it off 16:41 oleonard Sure tcohen 16:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9043 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Adding system preferences to control the visibility of the content on the Advanced Search page 16:40 tcohen oleonard: can u take a look at the last patch for bug 9043? I'm in need for it, and want another pair of eyes 16:32 * oleonard always forgets that feature isn't available when using the xslt view 16:28 gerundio and now a bootstrap modal pops up showing some options to search for 16:27 gerundio I've activated the OPACPopupAuthorsSearch setting in the OPAC preferences 16:26 gerundio the onclick is set despite that condition 16:25 gerundio the function only gets defined [% IF OPACPopupAuthorsSearch %] 16:25 gerundio I'm currently looking at the template source code 16:25 oleonard gerundio: It should be defined right on that page, I'm not sure why it's not 16:17 gerundio does anybody know where should that showSubjects JS function be defined? 16:17 gerundio there's an onclick property attached to the link: onclick="showSubjects(this, 1, 1); return false;" 16:16 gerundio if I click on the links for Subject(s) I get a JS error on the browser developer console: "Uncaught ReferenceError: showSubjects is not defined" 16:16 drojf hi #koha 16:15 jcamins That seems like a reasonable solution. 16:15 gerundio for instance, https://opac.fct.unl.pt/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=47904&query_desc=kw%2Cwrdl%3A%20%22conjugar%20verbos%22 16:15 gerundio I'm getting a strange behaviour on some links on OPAC 16:14 gerundio hi 16:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13265 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Still too many search cursor cookies 16:14 oleonard Bug 13265 16:14 jcamins And pushed. 16:14 khall afk, brb 16:14 jcamins Looks like a fix was submitted. 16:14 jcamins oleonard: why does it need my input? 16:13 khall at least, that's my understanding. 16:13 khall So, if you have multiple search tabs open using the system, each one needs a cookie, or your next button would give you the next record from the last search, instead of the search you are actually on. 16:12 khall oleonard: the cookies are used for the previous/next links on the record details after you search. The cookies are used to remember what the search actually was if I understand correctly. So the data is stored in a cookie, rather than being coded into the previous/next links. 16:11 oleonard jcamins: I think the issue could use your input 16:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11369 major, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Stable , Too many search cursor cookies overflow HTTP-header size, when making multiple searches in the staff client. 16:09 wahanui rumour has it Bug 11369 is hitting us hard after upgrading to 3.14 16:09 oleonard Bug 11369 16:09 khall It put the limit to 10 cookies, which is just still too many for some sites 16:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11639 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , Untranslatable strings in 007 builder 16:08 khall based on bug 11639 16:07 oleonard How can we be sure we're fixing the bug correctly if we don't even know what the cookies are for? 16:05 khall oleonard: I don't think so, but I'm not entirely sure. The only experience I've had with it is fixing this bug. I'm not even sure where you go to see the previous searches. 16:04 oleonard But not the search history system, correct? 16:03 khall oleonard: it's a system to store your previous searches 16:02 gaetan_B bye! 16:02 Joubu bag: Aren't they just next to your keyboard? ;) 16:01 bag I am always searching for cookies :P 16:00 oleonard What are the search cookies for? What do they do? 16:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13265 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Still too many search cursor cookies 16:00 oleonard Bug 13265 15:27 Joubu tcohen: brain in the mist, but around 15:26 tcohen ? 15:26 tcohen Joubu: have a minute 15:15 huginn tcohen: talljoy was last seen in #koha 4 days, 16 hours, 26 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <talljoy> lot of paperwork, eh? 15:15 tcohen @seen talljoy 14:45 oleonard So maybe it's just never come up for us. 14:45 oleonard In my library the only time someone would have something checked out which was lost would be long overdue (lost), and normally those items would not be eligible for renewal 14:39 oleonard I would consider it a bug, but it's a long-standing behavior so I wonder what others think. 14:37 nengard so i think renewing should be the same ... right? 14:37 nengard when you check in an item that was lost it makes it not lost 14:37 nengard i don't know really if it should or shouldn't 14:35 oleonard ...and didn't in 3.14.x. 14:31 oleonard ...but it doesn't in master. 14:31 oleonard If the item is long overdue (lost) I would say it should--if you renew it it's not overdue anymore! 14:28 oleonard nengard: Do you think it should or shouldn't? 14:26 nengard hey #koha I'm wondering did renewing an item ever clear the lost status on that item? I don't think it did - but want to check before I report a bug/enh 14:16 nengard i'll suggest to the library that they use the sorter 14:16 nengard #tools_manage-marc-import td.highlight { background-color: yellow; } 14:16 nengard oleonard i had this 14:15 nengard eek - window closed - one sec will get it for you 14:14 oleonard ...and have you tried sorting on that column? That's a good way to find the matches. 14:14 oleonard What did you use before? 14:14 nengard i tried a jquery / css combo 14:14 nengard oleonard i had this css that was making matched records on the staged marc record management tool show in yellow - is there a way to do this with the new table? I can't seem to find a way 14:11 oleonard Okay so apparently the built-in offline circulation system NEVER respected the due date chosen at the time of checkout 14:08 * Joubu is going to edit the wiki.... 14:08 Joubu marcelr: ok, it seems to be the same as in France 14:07 Joubu cait: good idea! :p 14:06 cait we could make people enter their equations themselves 14:06 marcelr will there be a prize for the one adding syspref no. 1000 ? 14:06 cait i am sure the list would grow :) 14:05 marcelr heh only one pref? 14:05 cait only joking this time i would set on one for now 14:05 cait *hides* 14:05 cait we canmake it a pref! 14:05 cait but if the code is all nicely centralized... :P 14:05 cait Joubu: no idea :( 14:01 marcelr so say round( round(units * amount) * tax ) 14:00 oleonard Built-in offline circulation doesn't respect the date due selected in the "specify due date" field. 14:00 marcelr tax is applied at the end 13:59 Joubu marcelr: do you know how it is in Netherlands? 13:57 marcelr could be 13:54 Joubu Maybe it depends on the country... 13:54 Joubu round(quantity * ecost * tax rate) or quantity * round(ecost) * tax rate? 13:53 Joubu The question is: how should be calculated the tax value? 13:53 Joubu Is there a financial expert arround? 13:51 oleonard enqueue_koc.pl: Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at offline_circ/enqueue_koc.pl line 147 13:51 oleonard enqueue_koc.pl: Use of uninitialized value $command in hash element at offline_circ/enqueue_koc.pl line 176 13:50 * oleonard would like to upload a .koc to test with but it isn't working 13:38 cait ths is a 3.12 one :( 13:38 oleonard I've only heard reports of it in 3.16.x and I was able to reproduce in master 13:38 cait but they said all checkuts have one due date... and one has another 13:37 cait they think it might be refreshing the page... but I doubt it 13:37 cait oleonard: i have a library reporting something like that 13:34 oleonard anyone else seen anything like that? 13:34 oleonard This morning I'm back to trying to figure out why some renewals are coming up with a different due date than others 13:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #168: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/168/ 13:27 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 13:27 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 13:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #242: FIXED in 58 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/242/ 13:25 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 13:25 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 13:15 cait we are trying to find a date for our user meeting and the dates look like they might collide :( 13:15 cait paul_p: tomorrow morning owuld be great 13:14 paul_p (seen it, I only don't have impossible dates in mind. there are some/few) 13:14 paul_p can it wait for tomorrow morning ? 13:13 cait paul_p: I wrote you an email about the hackfest earlier - would be gread if you could give a quick answer 13:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #224: FIXED in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/224/ 13:12 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 13:12 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 13:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #235: FIXED in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/235/ 13:09 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 13:09 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 13:09 nlegrand hey magnuse ! 13:08 cait you sure get around this year :) 13:08 magnuse and hi nlegrand 13:08 magnuse hei paul_p 13:08 paul_p (meeting in ebaf/jerusalem all the week, sorry, i'm not really here) 13:07 tcohen hi paul_p 13:06 nlegrand hey paul_p :) 13:05 cait hi paul_p 13:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12750 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-create should be able to configure SRU server for the created instance 13:03 tcohen magnuse: can u take a look at bug 12750? 13:02 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (1:50 PM CET on November 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 13:02 magnuse @wunder boo 13:02 tcohen hi oleonard 12:56 oleonard Hi #koha 12:52 marcelr yes it is quiet 12:51 tcohen thought i was alone here :-P 12:51 tcohen hi marcelr 12:51 marcelr hi tcohen 12:24 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 26.6°C (9:20 AM ART on November 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 34%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Rising). 12:24 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 12:22 tcohen morning! 12:18 * ashimema is working on the multiple issuer paradox at this precise moment ;) 12:17 ashimema it's much easir to consume the tokens than to provide them to the world.. 12:17 ashimema I'm actually digging into the OAuth as provider for my application at the minute and it's not especially straight forward it seems.. 12:16 ashimema it's a reasonably complete authentication (SSO) solution.. including the ability to be an 'authentication bridge' or 'Identity Provider' 12:15 ashimema tell him to take a look at simplesamlphp.. 12:15 ashimema interseting.. 12:12 cait so the other side of what we have with shib now 12:11 cait using Koha as the identity provider(?) 12:11 cait he was looking for a standard way to authenticate other library services 12:08 ashimema That would be what we did when we tested shib in fact... you logged in with google credentials.. they came into fiede via oauth 12:08 ashimema allot of stuff can be acheived using a shibboleth gateway (simplesamlphp for instance can convert oauth claims into shibboleth sessions ;), so by proxy we already support oauth if your happy using such a mash up ) 12:07 ashimema What is he/she wanting to achieve? 12:06 ashimema though I'd be happy to test somthing if your co-worker implements it ;) 12:06 ashimema but it kinda depends on whether there much interest in it.. and whether I'll ever get funding to do it ;) 12:06 ashimema once i've got that fully working I 'might' think koha.. 12:05 ashimema at the minute.. to get it working in the app i'm developing here.. 12:05 cait what are your plans for it? 12:05 cait ashimema: funny, my coworker asked me about oauth today 12:03 * ashimema is just about getting his head around oauth and Bearer Tokens now.. and is tempted to add oauth to koha if and when a moment arrises.. 12:02 ashimema morning tcohen 11:42 tcohen morning! 11:38 * ashimema is back 11:25 nlegrand It looks like something went wrong with your Debian upgrade, you'll need to fix it first. libnet-z3950-zoom-perl depends on perlapi-5.14.2, which is a virtual package. 11:22 simabelew yes it is. but koha is not running. 11:21 nlegrand simabelew: you mean it's a Wheezy now ? 11:19 simabelew nlegrand: it is not a new install. I have been it for some time. It was running on Debian 6 squeez. But when I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, it has upgraded it to Debian. But then my koha system which was running fine stopped working. what went wrong, i do not know. 11:13 nlegrand simabelew: by the way, if it's a new install, I suggest you to run it on wheezy (current stable) instead of squeeze (old stable) 11:13 nlegrand simabelew: so it's an APT problem :) you may have some hints on the web (eg http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/121149/fix-held-broken-packages-on-debian or http://askubuntu.com/questions/223237/unable-to-correct-problems-you-have-held-broken-packages) 11:08 simabelew that is the error when I try to install libnet-z3950-zoom-perl 11:07 simabelew The following packages have unmet dependencies: libnet-z3950-zoom-perl: Depends: perlapi-5.10.1 Unable to correct problems, you have held proken packages 10:56 nlegrand :) well, some of them aren't in debian 10:55 nlegrand I think last time I wanted to install all perl deps with a dev install I did something silly like this : sudo apt-get install $(./koha_perl_deps.pl -a|perl -ne 'if (/(?:No|Yes)/) { s/(^.*?)\s.*/lib\L$1-perl/; s/::/-/g; print }' |tr '\n' ' ') 10:48 nlegrand sudo apt-get install libnet-z3950-zoom-perl 10:48 simabelew please help 10:47 simabelew That is the error message. 10:47 simabelew Can't locate ZOOM.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/eiarkoha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/eiarkoha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 102. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/eiarkoha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 102. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/eiarkoha/lib/C4/Output.pm line 31. BEGIN fai 10:28 drojf magnuse is right of course, sorry 10:26 magnuse lawalebalty: you'll have to do "sudo a2dissite 000-default" then 10:26 lawalebalty drojf: Thanks 10:20 drojf lawalebalty: it's for ubuntu too, there are some extra notes about 14.04 on the bottom of the page 10:20 lawalebalty drojf: I have installed ubuntu 14.04 10:18 drojf lawalebalty: there are instructions in the official wiki. if you are using debian have a look here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 10:14 lawalebalty magnuse: I got this when I ran the command you sent ; 000-default.conf library.conf 10:13 lawalebalty someone sent document to me which I followed....I can forward it to you if you drop me ur email or you can just hi me: lawalebalty@gmail.com 10:13 magnuse do "ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/" to check 10:12 magnuse it might be called something like 000-default 10:12 drojf lawalebalty: what instructions did you use to install koha? 10:10 lawalebalty drojf: ERROR: Site default does not exist! 10:08 huginn lawalebalty: downloading the Perl source 10:08 lawalebalty @drojf, okay..I will run the command now...Thanks 10:08 drojf lawalebalty: you have to disable this default website. you could try "sudo a2dissite default" 10:07 huginn lawalebalty: I suck 10:07 lawalebalty @drojf, yes i got a page that says it works 10:05 drojf (do you get a page that says "it works"?) 10:05 drojf lawalebalty: have you disabled the default apache website? 10:04 cait no sorry, i am at work 10:02 lawalebalty Can you please help me out?.. we can do team viewer please 10:00 cait lawalebalty: i am not sure, it hink something is wrong with your apache configuration 09:57 lawalebalty hi cait 09:53 drojf hi cait :) 09:53 cait hi drojf 09:53 drojf hi #koha 09:52 lawalebalty this is what came up when I tried localhost:8080 Index of / [ICO] Name Last modified Size Description [DIR] html/ 2014-11-17 10:42 - Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 8080 09:51 lawalebalty okie 09:45 cait try 8080 for a start 09:45 cait you need to access the staff interface to run the web installer - 80 would usually be the end user catalog (OPAC) 09:44 lawalebalty when I did localhost:80 it was apache2 index page that was coimng up 09:44 lawalebalty Please, I need help on koha ....I have installed it but the web installation is not coming up 09:36 nlegrand hey cait o/ :) 09:34 cait hi nlegrand :) 09:33 cait i haven't heard of probles after updating so far 09:33 cait simabelew: we'd need an error message or something to help you 09:14 nlegrand hiya #koha 09:14 simabelew I was running koha on debian linux but When I upgrade debian 6 squeeze to debian 7 wheezy, it has also upgraded mysql 5.1 to mysql 5.5. After that I was not able to access my database. The configuration has been changed I think but I dodnot where the change has taken place. I cannot my library system now. any help please? 09:02 magnuse hiya ashimema 09:01 cait help... 09:01 cait simabelew: just ask your question - people will answer if they can haelp 09:00 cait moring ashimema 08:59 ashimema morning #koha 08:58 simabelew any one for help? 08:57 simabelew I have come seeking assistance on running koha 08:26 cait :) 08:26 cait morning marcelr 08:26 cait morning mar 08:24 marcelr hi cait Oak gaetan_B and akafred 08:24 akafred good morning, cait :-) 08:23 cait morning akafred 08:20 cait hi Oak, gaetan_B and wahanui :) 08:20 wahanui hey, gaetan_B 08:20 gaetan_B hello 08:12 Oak Bonjour monsieur alex_a 07:56 marcelr hi #koha 07:54 wahanui privet, alex_a 07:54 alex_a Bonjour 07:44 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 07:44 magnuse @wunder boo 07:44 cait bbiab 07:43 magnuse eythian too: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#PERL16:_Hashrefs_should_be_used_as_arguments :-) 07:42 reiveune hello 07:42 cait i was thinking about that one earlier 07:42 cait thx magnuse :) 07:38 magnuse dcook: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#PERL16:_Hashrefs_should_be_used_as_arguments 07:36 * magnuse waves 07:17 Oak Bonjour monsieur paul_p 07:04 Oak no worries. 07:04 cait heh 07:03 Oak cait? cait who? 07:03 Oak okay. won't tell anyone. i did not see you. 07:03 cait hi Oak - sorry, not really here :) 06:50 Oak hello cait ! 06:49 Oak magnuse 06:49 Oak kia ora #koha 05:27 dcook Coolbeans 05:27 dcook Hmm, I thought I'd noticed a fair number of hashrefs in Koha 05:26 eythian personally, I like hash, but Class::Accessor likes hashref, so I tend to go with that for consistency. 05:26 dcook It seems like many methods in the wild accept hashes 05:26 dcook Which is more preferable? Using a hash or a hashref for method parameters? 05:26 dcook Actually, one more question, eythian :) 05:23 dcook Yeah, I think this makes more sense 05:14 dcook Cool :) 05:14 eythian yeah, that sounds sensible 05:13 dcook Or logged from the cronjob 05:12 dcook And then informative info should be done in the cronjob 05:12 eythian so it has appropriate semantic info, or can make summaries, or whatever 05:12 dcook I figure using warnings in the sub is useful for debugging 05:12 dcook Hmm, that's what I was starting to think as well 05:12 eythian if this is output to be informative about someting happening for a regular human, then probably at a higher level 05:12 eythian if you're outputting debug stuff, then anywhere is fine 05:11 eythian it depends 05:11 eythian mostly, yeah 05:11 dcook I would think that you'd want to avoid printing stuff in the module as it should just be behind the scenes logic, yeah? 05:11 eythian on the surface, either seems fine 05:10 dcook Hmm, I suppose neither way seems particularly perfect 05:08 eythian oh. Up to you. 05:08 dcook Well, there are going to be many small subs. It's just whether they're called by a master sub in the module or individually in the cronjob 05:08 eythian if you have a logging framework thing, then you can say "Loglevel(DEBUG)" and everything will get logged, etc. 05:08 eythian many small subs isn't the end of the world 05:08 dcook In this case, logging it would be most useful 05:07 dcook Well, maybe.. 05:07 dcook I'm not sure I follow 05:07 dcook The downside of that is that I have about 5 different subs in my cronjob when I'm only doing 1 thing 05:07 eythian yeah, so two ways of doing that. Passing "hey, print stuff" into the module (which I think is what I suggested) and the normal way, which I apparently forgot. Which is to use a logging system. 05:06 dcook But I'm thinking it might make more sense to make a sub like "gather_records", use that in the cronjob, print the number if the verbose flag is active, and then act on the data returned by "gather_records" using another object method 05:06 dcook If I want to print that out (when my verbose flag is on), I'm currently printing that in the module 05:06 dcook So I select X number of records 05:05 dcook You suggested moving the DBIC stuff into the module, so I did that 05:05 dcook I'm happy to be more specific :) 05:05 eythian these are very vague questions, you know. 05:04 dcook and by what 05:04 dcook Well, I was thinking more along the lines of what gets printed where 05:04 eythian papa: you have dealt with this recently, you may have more ideas 05:04 eythian *set 05:04 eythian maybe look into something that lets you see loglevels 05:04 eythian hmm 05:03 dcook Which seems sub-optimal :/ 05:03 dcook I added that as it seemed like a good idea, but to get it to do anything I have to pass it to my module 05:03 dcook You suggested using a verbose flag to turn on output for the cronjob 05:03 dcook Boo rain 05:03 eythian was supposed to be at training, but the rain got worse and I didn't feel up to biking 05:03 dcook Question for you regarding verbosity, cronjobs, and modules 05:02 eythian yarp 05:02 dcook eythian: still around? 03:12 dcook I suppose that's one option. Not an option on this server, but oh well. Doesn't really matter where it is. I shall add a new test to it anyway. 03:11 tcohen to test if it depends on the db, of course 03:05 dcook O_o 03:05 tcohen turn your mysql off 03:04 tcohen it doesn't 03:04 dcook Nope, I don't see it needing context 03:04 dcook If it does, it must be buried deep in its dependencies.. 03:03 tcohen *probably 03:03 tcohen because it needs context 03:03 dcook When it doesn't look like it touches the DB at all 03:03 dcook Also wondering why XSLT_Handler.t is in t/db_dependent... 03:01 dcook :) 03:00 dcook Yes, that. 03:00 jcamins dcook: if you had to think about it, the answer to my question is "yes, you're the only one who hears the word 'yesterday' and thinks of Abbot and Costello." 02:58 tcohen t/Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers.t fails "yesterday" =D 02:58 tcohen damn 02:58 dcook I think I recall that joke now that I think about it 02:58 jcamins ... this is one of those jokes that isn't funny to anyone but me, isn't it? 02:57 jcamins tcohen: oh, that pitcher! 02:57 tcohen t/Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers.t fails "yesterday" =D 02:56 tcohen damn 02:52 rangi and move on 02:52 rangi at which point i file it in the "this is a really bad idea" basket 02:51 rangi to cope with the fact that you have mixed AARC2 and RDA records 02:51 dcook cascading catalogue rules? 02:50 rangi we need cascading catalogue rules 02:48 rangi which is going to make doing anything RDA specific kinda hard 02:48 jcamins I think there can be no question about RDA being by the cataloguers for the cataloguers... except with less actual cataloguer involvement. 02:48 rangi but the stumbling block is most people are going to have a mixed catalogue .. for the foreseeable future 02:47 rangi if i could think of something to do with it, id probably have a crack :) 02:47 rangi and no one else cares 02:47 rangi but so far i think RDA is by the cataloguers and for the cataloguers 02:47 rangi its a reasonable theory 02:46 jcamins rangi: neither do I, but a friend thought that if anyone was doing something worthwhile with RDA, they'd probably be using Koha. 02:46 rangi ie not in any way that the users would notice 02:46 rangi i dont know anyone who is using RDA in that way at all tbh 02:46 rangi nope 02:45 jcamins rangi: do you know of anyone who is using RDA with Koha in a way that makes it seem like something different from using AACR2 with Koha? 02:44 tcohen I think they pretended to make it a mocked one 02:43 rangi should still be in the db_dependent tho, just to make it clear it depends on a db 02:43 * tcohen nods 02:43 rangi cos its a directory 02:43 rangi that wont 02:43 tcohen t/Circulation/AgeRestrictionMarkers.t seems to depend on the db 02:42 rangi or prove without -r 02:42 rangi its what is run when you do make test 02:41 rangi just not in directories under that 02:41 eythian I think everything in t/ runs 02:41 rangi everything in t/ is run 02:41 tcohen eythian: you don't run t/Circulation on building, right? 02:36 eythian and gave up 02:36 eythian ah, gmail was retrying 02:36 eythian their system is screwed in multiple ways I think 02:35 eythian oh, it's a bounce from something I sent on the 13th 02:35 rangi no mailed now 02:35 rangi they are 02:35 eythian that's the X-Original-To 02:35 eythian sunita.pujar@dsims.org.in 02:35 rangi probably via gmane or something 02:35 eythian odd 02:35 rangi they arent even on the list 02:34 rangi hmm nope 02:34 eythian well, I've just had two bounces so far, so maybe it just started 02:34 eythian ah yeah 02:34 rangi who consistently sends away from my desk mails 02:34 rangi and that georgew 02:34 rangi interesting i dont get that, but ill nomail it 02:33 eythian rangi: can kamal.bhagtani99@gmail.com be set to nomail? I get a bounce from 2003 to every message I send to the koha list. 02:28 tcohen night! 02:28 larryb 'night all 02:28 larryb well, it's almost dinner time here, and my ubuntu install finished, so thanks again. 02:25 larryb well, as you say, squeeze is going to be EOL soon, so it's probably time we found out if there are issues with wheezy in production 02:23 eythian I haven't done it on real production, but the systems I have done it on haven't had any issues 02:22 larryb well, I just finished upgrading all our sites to 3.16 . . . sure, why not 02:22 eythian Probably now if you're not doing anything else 02:21 larryb yeah, that's kind what I'm thinking about, when to start moving to wheezy. 02:20 eythian it's just squeeze is going EOL, jessie is nearly out, I don't want to maintain across three debian releases. 02:20 larryb cool. I like debian 02:20 eythian oh, no. 02:20 tcohen just our institution 02:20 tcohen nah 02:19 larryb so that is that the way we're going, from debian to ubuntu? 02:18 eythian larryb: I'd like to get builds for squeeze removed some time soonish (not immediately though.) I know that the ES stuff won't work on it. 02:18 tcohen they seem to share lots of libs 02:17 tcohen larryb: we've been using Ubuntu 12.04 for a while and are now moving to 14.04 02:17 larryb I haven't seen a date yet, but I'm expecting squeeze repos to go away in 2015 02:16 eythian no issues 02:15 eythian however I am forming a plan to upgrade some of our stuff over xmas/ny 02:15 larryb how's that doing for you? any issues? 02:15 eythian our newer stuff is tending to be 14.04 02:15 eythian I think it's just our demo stuff 02:15 eythian we have a site on it 02:14 larryb Anybody running koha on wheezy yet? 02:11 larryb thank you gents 02:11 larryb bingo! 02:10 larryb HA! 02:09 eythian that's when you last needed them :) 02:09 eythian lenny, that was it 02:09 larryb well, when I started with Koha, we were on Lenny. Guess old habits die hard. 02:09 eythian same thing, the current instructions work 02:08 eythian I think you needed them in whatever came before squeeze, but that was a while ago now 02:08 larryb what about on debian wheezy? same thing? 02:08 eythian you should use the current instructions, they worked for me a couple of days ago 02:08 eythian nope 02:08 eythian at the least, it doesn't have 5.10 02:08 larryb guess I'm still operating on three-year old instructions. I thought we still needed the indexdata repos. 02:08 eythian (I think) 02:07 eythian however, Ubuntu doesn't do the whole perlapi stuff 02:07 eythian probably a newer version 02:07 larryb but I'm guessing here it's trying to pull from the indexdata one? 02:06 eythian libnet-z3950-zoom-perl is in Ubuntu's repo 02:06 rangi yes 02:06 eythian (because it's not necessary) 02:06 larryb leave out indexdata? 02:06 eythian that's not in the instructions :) 02:06 rangi yeah 02:06 eythian don't do that 02:06 eythian yeah 02:06 larryb I added the repos for indexdata and k-c 02:06 rangi do you have the indexdata repos or something 02:06 larryb yep 02:06 wahanui somebody said repo was sitting waiting :) 02:06 eythian what repo? 02:06 eythian is this a fresh install? 02:05 larryb it does. it did 02:05 eythian that shouldn't happen 02:05 larryb anyone found a good way around that? 02:05 larryb libnet-z3950-zoom-perl : Depends: perlapi-5.10.1 but it is not installable 02:05 larryb I'm testing out koha package install on 14.04, and it won't install. It basically boils down this dependency issue: 02:03 larryb anyone want to help me with an ubunutu problem? 02:03 dcook hey larry 02:00 larryb hello #koha 01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12992 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Fund planning does not display actual values 01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13195 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Regression: Circulation checkouts table no longer shows item type description 01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13236 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Regression: Table of checkouts no longer preselects overdue items for rewewal 01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13196 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "Always show checkouts immediately" cookie should persist across sessions 01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13168 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Pushed to Master , "Today's checkouts" sort improperly because issuedate lacks seconds. 01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13254 major, P3, ---, rkopaczka, Pushed to Master , Delete record don't wait for confirmation 01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10878 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Display856uAsImage works in Results pages, can remove caveat text from system preference. 01:40 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12992: Fund planning should display actual values 01:40 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13195 - Regression: Circulation checkouts table no longer shows item type description 01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13258 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Clicking the "show checkouts" button should return focus to the barcode field 01:40 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13236 - Regression: Table of checkouts no longer preselects overdue items for rewewal 01:40 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13196 - "Always show checkouts immediately" cookie should persist across sessions 01:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12778 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Regression: Item lost status doesn't show in list of checkouts 01:40 jenkins_koha * Olli-Antti Kivilahti: Bug 13168 - "Today's checkouts" sort improperly because issuedate lacks seconds. 01:40 jenkins_koha * Rafal Kopaczka: Bug 13254 - Delete record don't wait for confirmation 01:40 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 10878: Correct Display856uAsImage pref description 01:40 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13258 - Clicking the "show checkouts" button should return focus to the barcode field 01:40 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12778 - Regression: Item lost status doesn't show in list of checkouts 01:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #234: NOW UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/234/ 00:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13122 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Patron holds table no longer display date item went in transit 00:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13256 trivial, P5 - low, ---, hector.hecaxmmx, Pushed to Master , Typographical error on item search template 00:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13233 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Patron search by birth date tooltip broken 00:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13227 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Display856uAsImage displays images in OPAC in original size 00:57 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13122 - Patron holds table no longer display date item went in transit 00:57 jenkins_koha * Héctor Eduardo Castro Avalos: Bug 13256 - Typographical error on item search template 00:57 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 13233 - Patron search by birth date tooltip broken 00:57 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 13227: Display856uAsImage displays images in OPAC in original size 00:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #233: UNSTABLE in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/233/ 00:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12992: Fund planning should display actual values <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b584f8f71ed2206856b0b1bf42d2972f78fcc4a> / Bug 13195 - Regression: Circulation checkouts table no longer shows item type description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=13fda8378337388e0bf353eacfb26ac3d3511dc8> 00:33 wizzyrea imo 00:33 wizzyrea yep 00:33 tcohen wizzyrea: core functionalities might better belong to ADmin, right? 00:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13236 - Regression: Table of checkouts no longer preselects overdue items for... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48db11d68b7f83588903d7c9621a144ca3be8d3a> / Bug 13196 - "Always show checkouts immediately" cookie should persist across sessions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fdc60b0d1064d279053d8953c69c5cadb6b07266> / Bug 13168 - "Today's checkouts" sort i 00:31 wahanui what's up, BobB 00:31 BobB hi 00:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13254 - Delete record don't wait for confirmation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=866017e1523ec430d4ec37fc92a02edb86c106e5> / Bug 10878: Correct Display856uAsImage pref description <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=474735017379277b5f613b43686049ff955e152f> / Bug 13258 - Clicking the "show checkouts" button should return focus to the barcode... <http://git.k 00:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13122 - Patron holds table no longer display date item went in transit <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3d1e527e7cf23c20db8ed35c8de678d8f8a9d92> / Bug 13256 - Typographical error on item search template <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=433d9d3d9f6ef429f95f39dbe5811a04fa441f82> / Bug 13233 - Patron search by birth date tooltip broken <http://git.koha-commun 00:00 * dcook goes back to his XSLTs 00:00 dcook I think another thing to keep in mind with that one is the manual and training I suppose.