Time  Nick         Message
00:50 dcook        DBIC joins seem weird... good thing I don't need them yet
02:25 dcook        Hmm... best place to put a new XSLT..
02:28 dcook        I guess with the rest because of C4::XSLT::_get_best_default_xslt_filename
02:28 wizzyrea     new custom or new generally
02:28 dcook        That doesn't seem like the best idea though..
02:28 dcook        wizzyrea:?
02:28 dcook        Ah
02:28 dcook        new generally
02:29 wizzyrea     is this one that you'll be feeding a path to for changing the display or a new one to the Koha codebase
02:29 dcook        I just need to pass it to a cronjob, but I am thinking it will be user configurable
02:29 wizzyrea     if it's new in the codebase, with the rest of the XSLT's is probably best?
02:30 wizzyrea     i.e. have a default one, but let the job take a path to a custom one as well?
02:30 wizzyrea     like the koha interface allows
02:30 wizzyrea     (more work tho.)
02:30 dcook        That's probably the way to do it
02:31 dcook        I suppose we have other XSLTs in there that aren't for display too
02:32 wizzyrea     yeah, there isn't really a place for "service" xslt's
02:33 dcook        Yeah :/
02:34 dcook        Hmm, it looks like we don't allow remote linking of XSLTs anymore?
02:34 dcook        They have to be on the local filesystem?
02:34 wizzyrea     I can't speak to that.
02:34 wizzyrea     (we only do local ones)
02:35 wizzyrea     sounds familiar tho
02:35 dcook        Probably makes sense
02:35 dcook        Remote XSLTs wouldn't be very reliable
02:35 wizzyrea     and sloooow
02:35 dcook        I wonder if I do want to have it configurable... I guess so
02:37 dcook        Thanks for the discussion, wizzyrea :)
02:38 wizzyrea     nw, I'm never sure if you're being rhetorical or not.
02:38 wizzyrea     lol.
02:39 dcook        hehe
02:39 dcook        The configurability thing rubs me a bit
02:39 dcook        On one hand, I like flexibility.
02:39 dcook        On the other hand, I don't like giving people the chance to break stuff
02:42 wizzyrea     hahaha
02:43 dcook        But also want it to be fast and the best it can be :p
02:52 dcook        Arg... our implementation of DBIC is a bit maddening sometimes..
02:52 dcook        I suppose if the DBIC accessors are different from the actual table names... we're more likely to use one or the other
02:53 dcook        But I dread the day I want to use either or
02:53 * dcook      shrugs
03:56 dcook        Bleargh... what do do... what to do
05:25 dcook        It's frustrating when you had something working a year ago and now it doesn't seem to work... without any reason at all...
05:25 dcook        hi cait :)
05:25 * cait       waves
06:13 dcook        I think the universe wants to drive me crazy...
06:14 dcook        Or this is what I get after saying XSLT isn't so bad :p
06:17 dcook        And then find the answer almost by accident..
06:18 * magnuse    waves
06:18 dcook        yo magnuse
06:18 dcook        ok moment of truth..
06:20 dcook        Yay!
06:20 dcook        I guess the arrival of magnuse helped somehow :)
06:31 magnuse      you're welcome ;-)
06:31 cait         :)
06:31 cait         sorry still wkaing up
06:35 dcook        :)
06:35 dcook        Still no idea why it wasn't an issue last year, but oh well
06:36 cait         gremlins?
06:36 wahanui      First of all, keep cait out of the light, he hates bright light, especially sunlight, it'll kill him. Second, don't give him any water, not even to drink. But the most important rule, the rule you can never forget, no matter how much he cries, no matter how much he begs, never feed him after midnight.
06:36 cait         ok...
06:37 cait         ... but too late muahah
06:37 dcook        lol
06:38 cait         it's time for math
06:41 dcook        ?
06:41 cait         distance study
06:43 dcook        :(
06:43 dcook        I did some math the other to calculate if a couch would fit through my door
06:43 dcook        Fortunately, it was able to be partially disassembled rendering my calculations irrelevant :)
06:43 cait         wish it was math like that
06:44 dcook        What sort of math is it?
06:44 cait         this morning it's analysis
06:44 cait         but now stop asking questons ;)
06:45 cait         it helps me procrastinate :)
06:47 magnuse      wizzyrea_?
06:47 dcook        I should head off anyway
06:47 dcook        magnuse: double trouble?
06:48 cait         dcook: have a nice evening :)
06:49 magnuse      have fun, dcook
06:52 wizzyrea_    magnuse!
06:52 wahanui      magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
06:52 wizzyrea_    question
06:52 wahanui      somebody said question was "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
06:52 wizzyrea_    42
06:52 wizzyrea_    but beside that
06:52 wizzyrea_    I cannot, for the life of me recall what the development environment you have set up in norway is called
06:52 wizzyrea_    nor where to find it
06:53 wizzyrea_    It's been told to me 3x or more
06:53 wizzyrea_    but I'm dense.
06:53 wizzyrea_    well or anybody for that matter.
06:53 * wizzyrea_  twiddles thumbs
06:55 wizzyrea_    https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox I think it's this lol
06:55 wizzyrea_    YAY I FOUND IT YAY
06:56 wizzyrea_    boo I'll have to do a lot of work to get it to work on this computer...
06:56 wizzyrea_    well a lot.
06:56 wizzyrea_    not a lot.
06:56 wizzyrea_    I'm just lazy
06:56 wizzyrea_    norwegian developer box is https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
06:57 wizzyrea_    vagrant is https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
06:57 wizzyrea_    vagrant?
06:57 wahanui      well, vagrant is an automated VM provisioner: http://www.vagrantup.com/
06:57 wizzyrea_    vagrant is also https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
06:57 wahanui      okay, wizzyrea_.
06:57 wizzyrea_    vagrant?
06:57 wahanui      vagrant is https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
06:59 magnuse      kohadevbox?
06:59 magnuse      yup, you found it wizzyrea_ :-)
06:59 wizzyrea_    hurrah
06:59 magnuse      kohadevbox is at https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
06:59 magnuse      kohadevbox?
06:59 wahanui      kohadevbox is at https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
06:59 wizzyrea_    \o/
06:59 magnuse      what sort of work do you have to do to make it work?
07:00 magnuse      should only need vagrant and virtualbox
07:00 wizzyrea_    rearrange OS's on my laptops
07:00 wizzyrea_    nothing that has to do with the solution itself
07:00 wizzyrea_    :)
07:01 wizzyrea_    but I need to 1. decide which linux to put on here 2. make it work properly (it may not, it's kind of strange-ish hardware) 3. get it all set up the way I like it yada yada yada
07:02 wizzyrea_    stuff that needs to be done anyway but not feeling suuuuuper motivated.
07:03 wizzyrea_    how's stuff?
07:04 wizzyrea_    good morning europe. :)
07:05 magnuse      ah
07:06 magnuse      stuff is good
07:23 rangi        ive added an alternate patch for bug 12892
07:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12892 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Holds Waiting: not showing from check out screen
07:24 rangi        which just restores the code that was deleted
07:24 rangi        to show waiting reserves
07:30 magnuse      @wunder wellington, nz
07:30 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (8:00 PM NZDT on November 05, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
07:31 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:31 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 05, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
07:31 magnuse      darn you, windchill!
07:31 wizzyrea_    hey 10 is chilly
07:31 cait         rangi++
07:32 cait         thank you
07:35 magnuse      yeah, 10 is reeeealy chilly, sure ;-)
07:35 wizzyrea_    it is for november!
07:35 cait         @wunder Konstanz
07:35 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.8°C (8:35 AM CET on November 05, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Rising).
07:35 magnuse      oooh, november!
07:35 magnuse      how can cait have positive windchill?!?
07:36 fridolin     hie community
07:36 rangi        hi fridolin
07:37 magnuse      bonjour fridolin
07:37 magnuse      and kia ora rangi
07:38 wizzyrea_    hi fridolin :)
07:38 fridolin     how are you magnuse, not too cold ?
07:38 reiveune     hello
07:39 magnuse      fridolin: nah, we have good heating ;-)
07:39 magnuse      @wunder marseille
07:39 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 8.1°C (8:26 AM CET on November 05, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady).
07:39 * magnuse    remmebers that fridolin is not in marseille
07:39 fridolin     Nimes does not work, odd
07:39 magnuse      s/remmebers/remembers/
07:39 fridolin     try Montepellier
07:40 fridolin     Montpellier
07:40 magnuse      @wunder Montepellier
07:40 huginn       magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
07:40 magnuse      @wunder Montepellier, france
07:40 huginn       magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
07:40 magnuse      @wunder Montpellier, france
07:40 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Montpellier, France is 8.0°C (8:30 AM CET on November 05, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
07:40 magnuse      ah
07:40 fridolin     "winter is coming"
07:40 fridolin     :D
07:40 fridolin     i've ordered wood today
07:41 magnuse      good idea
07:57 mtompset     Greetings, I have a question about how to patch something that was already pushed to master. New bug?
07:57 mtompset     Greetings, #koha. :)
07:58 magnuse      mtompset: yeah, i think that is the preferred way
07:59 alex_a       bonjour
07:59 magnuse      but you might leave a note on the old bug, pointing to the new one
07:59 magnuse      hiya alex_a
07:59 wizzyrea_    yes, that is definitely the preferred way
08:01 wizzyrea_    well friends, have a very excellent time-of-day - i'm off to eradicate yet another windows machine.
08:01 gaetan_B     hello
08:02 magnuse      go wizzyrea_ go!
08:15 mtompset     Checkout bug 13200. ;)
08:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13200 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Followup of Bug 12246 - noisy C4/Auth.pm
08:30 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
08:33 ashimema     signed off mtompset
08:33 ashimema     morning #koha
08:37 magnuse      ashimema++
08:37 magnuse      and hiya
08:37 magnuse      ashimema: how's the ill coming along?
08:38 cait         good morning #koha
08:39 ashimema     I didn't get as much done as I wanted to before I went on leave.. turned into a busy week of fixing errant servers that wanted to blow up before I departed!
08:39 ashimema     It'll probably be on hold for a little bit now until I can schedule the next sprint on it :(
08:40 cait         Edi?
08:40 ashimema     I'ts on my list to give Colin a good kicking this morning about EDI..
08:40 cait         ah was just wonderng about the sprint :)
08:40 ashimema     it's getting rather embarrassing for me to keep putting people off..
08:40 cait         what is missing for it to be submittable?
08:41 ashimema     EDI is a solely Colin project.. it was too far in before we started trialing sprints.. ILL was our first candidate for sprints really.
08:41 ashimema     naff all.. it's just Colin being a perfectionist..
08:41 ashimema     though I think it should really be split down into a set of patches instead of one giant one that it is currently.
08:42 cait         maybe it's time to just run with it then
08:42 cait         :)
08:43 ashimema     bug 12892
08:43 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12892 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Holds Waiting: not showing from check out screen
08:43 ashimema     qa hat time cait ;)
08:44 ashimema     hehe..
08:47 ashimema     magnuse: you can see the work in progress on ill here: https://github.com/mrenvoize/Koha/tree/ill_master
08:48 ashimema     I'll be cleaning up the commits for submission.. so it's a bit messy as I 'found my way' with angular, koha::objects and koha::services.. ;)
08:59 magnuse      excellent
09:02 cait         ashimema: i will take care of it tonight if noone beats me to it
09:04 ashimema     damn smuxi crashed again.
09:04 cait         ashimema: we got a second sign off, now you can qa :P
09:05 ashimema     I just trashed 8402 emails in one hit..
09:05 ashimema     that's a bit scarry.
09:05 magnuse      ouch
09:06 ashimema     all support mails.. didn't realise my mail client had been stashing them away in the background as I usually go through our support protal system instead of mail..
09:06 ashimema     fun though.. watching your mail shrink so fast..
09:06 ashimema     anyone here using google 'inbox' app?
09:06 ashimema     I'm still waiting ofr an invitation myself :(
09:12 cait         i am not using any google mail apps :)
09:20 magnuse      ah, so not an ouch then :-)
09:36 cait         Joubu++
09:36 cait         regression_tests++ :)
11:34 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11425: Update DBIx <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a86e69c86bd99e463e6702ee487e18af7a9cb79a> / Bug 11425: (maniac followup) remove diag from tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe1461bcd8e60cd056f869b22bcfd7c2ba3c475f> / Bug 11425: (followup) fix number of tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=612769c3e73ef834ab24480746c
11:38 Joubu        C4::Suggestions::GetSuggestion is awful!
11:38 Joubu        it takes a parameter named $ordernumber
11:38 Joubu        but it should be suggestionid
11:38 Joubu        the pod is wrong too
11:38 Joubu        outch
11:39 cait         ouch.
11:42 Joubu        bug 13201
11:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13201 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , GetSuggestion takes suggestionid
11:42 Joubu        patch sent
11:44 tcohen       :-D
11:44 tcohen       morning
11:51 tcohen       hi cait
11:52 cait         hi all
11:52 cait         does someone have a query for patrons with no message_preference setting?
11:52 cait         it seems i can't wrap my mind around it right now :(
11:53 cait         hm.. now i found something in the wiki
12:05 tcohen       hmpf, I broke the MariaDB setup trying to update it
12:08 Joubu        khall: Hi! Could you have a look at my comment on bug 12630 please?
12:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12630 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, In Discussion , Prioritizing "Hold starts on date" -holds causes all other holds to be prioritized as well!
12:09 khall        will do!
12:12 khall        hmm, that's an interesting point Joubu. imo this is at best an undocumented feature ( not documented in the manual afaik ) at best, but I and I'm sure many would consider it a bug In actuality
12:12 khall        If this patch doesn't get pushed, then we *must* at the very least syspref the behavior.
12:13 khall        we can have the RM make that call if you don't feel comfortable making it.
12:13 khall        I would mark as Passed QA with a note for tcohen about this issue
12:14 Joubu        khall: my feeling is that the date should be take into account, otherwise the further holds could be blocked by the one "in the future"
12:15 khall        Joubu: that is true. There was a bug where a patron could cheat his way to the front of the line by setting a starts on date way in the past, but I closed up that bug by disabling the calendar selector for past dates
12:15 khall        however, one could still cheat the system if they know what they are doing
12:15 khall        this bug closes that loophole permanently
12:16 khall        I suppose we could also have the script round up any hold starts on date in the past to the current date as well
12:17 khall        I'm going to add the above as a comment on the bug
12:17 Joubu        Yes but, now=Nov 5, a patron P1 place a hold on B1 in the future, in 1 month Dec 5. P2 place a hold for now. P1 should not block P2. And it's what this patch will introduce
12:17 Joubu        which is not the case atm
12:17 Joubu        I don't know why I explain you the problem, you understood it :)
12:18 khall        heh ; )
12:18 Joubu        khall: Anyway, the pod is wrong, I should not be pushed as it
12:18 Joubu        It
12:20 khall        That's good to know. I'd just fail qa on it then.
12:20 khall        Your point about it holding up other holds that could be filled is totally valid as well
12:22 khall        Joubu: if my memory serves, doesn't the holds system skip over holds that haven't started yet?
12:22 khall        I think that solves the issue you bring up
12:22 khall        let me check on that
12:22 Joubu        khall: I don't know, but it could be good to know!
12:24 khall        Joubu: as far as I can tell C4::Reserves::CheckReserves does *not* take the reservedate into account. I think with a followup that does, this patch would be acceptable. Do you agree?
12:25 khall        That way one future hold doesn't hold back other reserves, and it still prevents cheating the system
12:25 Joubu        sounds good
12:25 khall        I'll file a new bug report and make it a blocker for this bug
12:30 Joubu        khall: not sure it will fix the problem. CheckReserves does not seem to be called on a checkin
12:30 Joubu        rm C4/Reserves.pm would be the better idea...
12:30 khall        ?
12:30 khall        It's called from AddReturn
12:31 khall        line 1962 in master
12:31 Joubu        khall: ... yep, sorry
12:31 khall        heh, np!
12:31 khall        I think if we rm C4/Reserves.pm we might get some errors ; )
12:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #215: UNSTABLE in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/215/
12:32 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 13170 Remove of prog theme broke the OPAC's "view plain" option for MARC details
12:32 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11126 - Make the holds system optionally give precedence to local holds
12:32 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11126 [QA Followup] - Make reserves returned by _Findgroupreserve sorted by priority
12:32 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13170 major, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Remove of prog theme broke the OPAC's "view plain" option for MARC details
12:32 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11126: qa follow-up
12:32 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11126: (RM followup) remove diags from tests
12:32 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11126: DBRev 3.17.00.045
12:32 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 11425: Add item search form in staff interface
12:32 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11126 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Make the holds system optionally give precedence to local holds
12:32 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 11425: Add unit tests
12:33 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11425 new feature, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Search form for items
12:33 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 11425: Add filter on items.notforloan column
12:33 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11425: Get column names using DBIX
12:33 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 11425: QA fixes
12:33 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 11425: Display location label instead of code
12:33 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11425 [QA Followup] - Fix number of unit tests
12:33 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11425 [Template follow-up] Search form for items
12:33 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11425: DBRev 3.17.00.046
12:33 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11425: (followup) fix number of tests
12:33 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11425: (maniac followup) remove diag from tests
12:33 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11425: Update DBIx
12:49 marcelr      hi #koha
12:52 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:53 mveron       Hi #koha
13:06 tcohen       hi oleonard mveron
13:14 magnuse      ¡hola tcohen!
13:15 * cait       waves
13:15 oleonard     rangi++ # Alternate fix for Bug 12892
13:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12892 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Holds Waiting: not showing from check out screen
13:17 cait         khall, Joubu - i don't understand alle hte discussion about future holds, but i think marcelr did some work there for his library and they might have a workflow that is different to the 'standard one'
13:17 cait         maybe add him to the bug?
13:18 marcelr      cait: is that another bug?
13:18 cait         ah hi marcelr - there is one about prioritizing holds i don't quite understand
13:19 cait         but ithink you work with future hold dates in your library?
13:19 marcelr      ok i checked a bug number about an hour ago or so
13:19 marcelr      yes we do
13:19 cait         i will find it for you - joubu and khall discussed it earlier today, but i was not around
13:19 marcelr      ok
13:19 cait         bug 12630
13:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12630 normal, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, BLOCKED , Prioritizing "Hold starts on date" -holds causes all other holds to be prioritized as well!
13:20 marcelr      thx
13:54 tcohen       hi marcelr
13:55 marcelr      hi tcohen
13:56 tcohen       thanks everyone for the effort to make 3.18 a solid release
13:56 tcohen       community++
13:56 * tcohen     is anxious
13:58 magnuse      is bug 11944 postponed for 3.20?
13:59 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
14:00 marcelr      tcohen++
14:21 cait         tcohen: it will be alright :)
16:28 bag          morning
16:29 cait         morning bag
16:29 cait         are you early or am i working oto long? :)
16:30 bag          cait I am right on time ;)
16:30 bag          good day cait
16:30 cait         hi ba
16:30 cait         g
16:58 ashimema     bag.. I gave Colin another EDI kick this morning...
16:58 ashimema     tells me he hopes to post patches in the next 7 days..
16:58 ashimema     I'll keep kicking until he does
16:58 bag          awesome ashimema
16:58 bag          thank you !!!!
16:59 cait         i almost feel sorry for Colin :)
16:59 cait         ... but i also want the EDI patches :)
17:00 fridolin     see u
17:03 reiveune     bye
17:13 gaetan_B     bye
17:35 * ashimema   is happy to see the sandboxes are getting used a fair bit at the moment :)
17:37 bag          excellent ashimema
17:37 bag          hey ashimema I've missed you around these waters lately
17:37 bag          magnuse: HI THERE
17:37 * cait       waves
17:37 ashimema     It's your lot mate ;)  NEKLS
17:37 cait         it's very wet outside
17:37 ashimema     Yeah.. I was away last week on hols..
17:38 ashimema     and have been a bit tied up family wise evening of late so not been on irc as muhc when our timezones overlap ;)
17:38 * ashimema   remember, remember the fifth of november... gunpowder, treason and plot
17:40 bag          noice
17:45 jcamins      ashimema: and the anniversary of the last day someone entered Parliament with honest intentions, according to a friend of mine.
18:16 mveron       @wunder Allschwil
18:16 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 5.9°C (7:16 PM CET on November 05, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
18:17 bag          @wunder santa barbara, ca
18:17 huginn       bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 31.3°C (10:17 AM PST on November 05, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
18:17 druthb       @wunder 77098
18:17 huginn       druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 25.0°C (12:17 PM CST on November 05, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
18:17 bag          31!!!
18:17 druthb       @wunder boo
18:18 huginn       druthb: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 0.0°C (7:00 PM CET on November 05, 2014). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
18:18 druthb       brr
18:18 druthb       hm.
18:18 druthb       @wunder mcmurdo
18:18 huginn       druthb: The current temperature in McMurdo, Antarctica is -14.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 06, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -18.0°C. Pressure: 29.21 in 989 hPa (Rising).
18:23 mveron       @wunder north pole
18:23 huginn       mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
18:23 mveron       :-)
18:23 bag          @wunder north pole, ak
18:23 huginn       bag: The current temperature in AKDOT Badger Road @ Elvira Avenue, North Pole, Alaska is -22.2°C (8:53 AM AKST on November 05, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -25.0°C. Windchill: -22.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
18:23 bag          :P
18:23 bag          now that's cold
18:24 druthb       @wunder Iqaluit
18:24 huginn       druthb: Error: No such location could be found.
18:24 druthb       hm.
18:24 druthb       @wunder frobisher bay
18:24 huginn       druthb: Error: No such location could be found.
18:24 druthb       hmpf.  Where's a Canadian when I need one.
18:25 druthb       @wunder X0A 0H0
18:25 huginn       druthb: The current temperature in Iqaluit, Nunavut is -4.0°C (1:00 PM EST on November 05, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1005 hPa (Falling).
18:25 druthb       There we go.
18:27 mveron       @wunder south pole
18:27 huginn       mveron: Error: No such location could be found.
18:27 * mveron     is a bit concerned. Is the world flat?
18:27 druthb       @wunder admunsen-scott
18:27 huginn       druthb: Error: No such location could be found.
18:27 druthb       hm.
18:31 mveron       @wunder amundsen-scott
18:31 huginn       mveron: The current temperature in Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station, Antarctica is -36.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on November 06, 2014). Conditions: Snow. Humidity: . Pressure: (Rising).
18:31 * mveron     stays at home...
18:31 * druthb     too
18:31 mveron       :-)
18:34 cait         @wunder Konstanz
18:34 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.7°C (7:30 PM CET on November 05, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
18:46 rangi        morning
18:46 mveron       Good morning rangi :-)
18:48 cait         morning rangi
18:50 rangi        hmm we should schedule a meeting to confirm roles for 3.20 pretty soon
18:55 cait         yep
18:55 cait         maybe next week?
18:56 rangi        yeah
18:56 * mveron     says good daytime to everybody
18:56 rangi        cya mveron
18:56 cait         bye magnuse
18:56 cait         oh bye mveron :)
18:56 mveron       bye...
19:05 rangi        anyone got a sec ?
19:06 rangi        does t/db_dependent/Search.t pass for anyone?
19:11 bag          one sec rangi
19:12 bag          failed
19:12 rangi        good its not just me then, yeah i think its been broken forever
19:12 rangi        or at least a decent bunch of time
19:12 rangi        im doing some work on opachiddenitems might see if i can fix the tests too
19:13 cait         hm
19:13 cait         passing for me?
19:13 jcamins      Passes for me.
19:13 cait         oh, i had t/
19:13 cait         sec
19:13 rangi        oh interesting
19:13 wahanui      it has been said that interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
19:13 rangi        the Search/History.t passes for me
19:14 rangi        t/db_dependent/Search.t doesnt
19:14 jcamins      Which kind of surprises me, actually, because I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Koha wasn't working at all on this server.
19:14 cait         running it right now, waiting
19:14 rangi        i get
19:14 rangi        #   Failed test 'Found duplicate with ISBN' #   at t/db_dependent/Search.t line 320. #          got: undef #     expected: '51'
19:14 cait         mine pass :(
19:14 cait         or :) i am no sure there
19:14 bag          yup that's what I got rangi
19:14 rangi        interesting
19:14 wahanui      rumour has it interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
19:15 rangi        well thats positive, its probably something to do with dom/grs
19:15 rangi        ta, i can work on that
19:15 bag          also Found duplicate with author/title
19:15 rangi        speaking of dom
19:15 rangi        08:15:37-06/11 zebraidx(1501) [warn] No such record type: dom./etc/koha/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config.xml
19:15 rangi        thats probably the problem right there
19:16 cait         t/db_dependent/Search.t .. ok
19:16 cait         All tests successful.
19:19 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
19:19 mtompset     I was reading my emails, and noticed this question on the LinkedIn group.
19:19 mtompset     "We are implementing Koha in our library but we miss manuals or any other aids in Spanish.  Does anyone know where to find these materials?"
19:19 mtompset     So I thought to myself, I remember a Spanish version of the Koha community page.
19:20 mtompset     http://es.koha-community.org/documentacion/
19:20 mtompset     It's kind of out of date.
19:20 rangi        http://es.koha-community.org/manual/
19:20 rangi        thats where you want to be
19:21 mtompset     Nice.
19:22 mtompset     Why don't we have that type of grid link on the English site?
19:22 rangi        because that is still a proof of concept site
19:22 rangi        but it has the most up to date spanish manual
19:23 rangi        hmm yeah i think search is busted on this machine in general, ill try to fix that first then try to figure out the test
19:25 mtompset     rangi++ # thanks for the link.
19:28 kathryn      good morning :)
19:29 rangi        morning kathryn
19:30 cait         ooh now i missed kathryn
19:39 bag          tcohen, rangi and cait - I could use a lomito right about now
19:39 cait         helado
19:39 rangi        heh
19:40 cait         we didn#t go back to that icecream place *sigh*
19:41 rangi        grido
19:41 rangi        hehe
19:41 bag          hmm a green chili cheeseburger sounds good too
19:42 cait         nope, not that one
19:42 cait         bag: don't make me hungry!
19:42 bag          sorry cait too late - I'm starving
19:59 cait         late here too... :)
20:35 mtompset     Anyone want an easy QA? bug 12792 :)
20:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12792 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , C4::Reserves breaks my vim syntax color
21:26 cait         does someone else testing master feel like he gets logged out more often?
21:31 bag          @marc 830
21:31 huginn       bag: A series added entry consisting of a series title alone. (Repeatable) [a,d,f,g,h,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s,t,v,6,8]
21:31 bag          @marc 830
21:31 huginn       bag: A series added entry consisting of a series title alone. (Repeatable) [a,d,f,g,h,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s,t,v,6,8]
21:32 bag          @marc 830a
21:32 huginn       bag: unknown tag 830a
21:32 bag          @marc 830$a
21:32 huginn       bag: unknown tag 830$a
21:41 oleonard     cait what browser did you test report deletion in?
21:41 cait         hi oleonard - i tested in firefox in ubuntu
21:42 oleonard     Strange.
21:42 cait         yeah :(
21:42 cait         the change probably does no harm, but it looked like i was missing someting or tha tmaybe it was fixed in master
21:42 oleonard     I just tested it again in my VM at home, Firefox on Debian.
21:43 oleonard     Clicked "Next" while on the "All" tab, selected "Delete" from an Action menu... No confirmation.
21:43 oleonard     (testing master)
21:43 wizzyrea     which bug?
21:43 cait         super weird
21:44 cait         i don't spot a difference to what i did
21:48 cait         eythian: around?
21:48 wizzyrea     I'd be surprised if he is, he's at a conference
21:49 cait         oh
21:49 cait         :)
21:49 cait         hoped he could take a look at the comments on bug 11998
21:49 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11998 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , Syspref caching issues
21:54 wizzyrea     fwiw, I get a confirm on deleting saved reports on master, even on page 2
21:55 rangi        cait: he already did
21:55 cait         oh argh
21:55 rangi        Is it really coming from Koha::Cache? I haven't had a chance to look yet, but I don't really understand those messages, and without understanding they'll be hard to fix.
21:55 rangi        and then jonathan said
21:55 rangi        The perlcritic error is easy to fix, I can provide a followup, but I don't understand the warnings neither.
21:55 cait         i don't understand it much at all - just wanted to give it a nudge
21:55 cait         trying to get rid of all the bugs :)
21:57 oleonard     cait: You should be done any time now.
21:57 * oleonard   leaves again
21:57 cait         hm?
21:59 wizzyrea     you should be done getting rid of bugs any time now
21:59 dcook        Just missed an oleonard :/
22:02 cait         wizzyrea: don#t feel like it
22:02 bag          hey cait do you have any more bugs for the ajax stuff?  I want to make sure that we get all those before the release is out the door
22:02 cait         i qa'd everything that was signed off
22:02 cait         let me check
22:02 rangi        theres a bunch that dont have patches yet
22:03 wizzyrea     yeah, I think he was getting at the fact that we, as a team, will never be done fixing bugs. ;)
22:03 cait         hm bug 12489
22:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12489 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, ASSIGNED , Ajax checkout table: no "loading..." popup
22:03 magnuse      bag: HI
22:03 wahanui      que tal, magnuse
22:03 rangi        the big one is the print one i think
22:03 cait         bag: actually, easiest is go to bug 11708 and hover over the depends
22:03 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11708 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Patch doesn't apply , Display all basketgroups on one page, and new column aqbasketgroups.closeddate
22:04 cait         it will show you th status for each
22:04 rangi        hmm thats the wrong bug
22:04 cait         right... me and the numbers
22:05 cait         i meant bug 11703
22:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
22:05 cait         and i think rangi meant 12971
22:05 cait         bug 12971
22:05 wahanui      bug 12971 is a pretty big deal to us after just one day of 3.16 use :(
22:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12971 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, NEW , Printing member information lacks data
22:05 cait         wizzyrea: could you test something else maybe? exporting today's check-ins (it's in the toolbar in the patron account)
22:05 cait         i can#t get that working
22:06 wizzyrea     bug 13190?
22:06 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13190 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Export checkout list does not work anymore
22:08 wizzyrea     http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/showdependencytree.cgi?id=11703&hide_resolved=1 this view is pretty helpful.
22:10 cait         wizzyrea: eyporting checkouts works with the patch, but there is also an optionj for checkins in the toolbar on top
22:10 wizzyrea     works for me, prompts me to download a file that has the barcode in it
22:11 wizzyrea     and for multiples as well
22:12 cait         only got an empty file
22:12 bag          awesome thanks rangi and cait - I will ask everyday :)  It's my goal of making sure that everyone loves that feature :D
22:12 cait         but  it's good of it works for you :)
22:12 wizzyrea     well, it only exports the barcodes for that borrower that have been checked in today
22:12 wizzyrea     not all of them
22:13 wizzyrea     if you do it on a borrower that hasn't had any checkins today
22:13 wizzyrea     it won't come up with anything in the file
22:13 wizzyrea     maybe that's what you're coming up against?
22:13 cait         hm
22:13 cait         can you try something?
22:13 wizzyrea     sure
22:13 cait         i checked in from the checkout screen
22:13 cait         see if that works too?
22:13 wizzyrea     sure
22:14 cait         so they showed Returned in the table and then i clicked
22:15 wizzyrea     yep, that works for me as well
22:16 cait         cool
22:16 cait         i will let it go then :)
22:17 wizzyrea     http://i.imgur.com/Fn1ADEO.png
22:19 cait         cool :)
22:19 cait         thx liz! wizzyrea++
22:59 cait         bag: if you are still around, can you take a look at marcel's comment? http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11413#c35
22:59 huginn       04Bug 11413: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Marc modification template has not the expected behavior if the condition and source fields are on the same field
22:59 bag          sure can
23:02 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
23:04 bag          cait commented on
23:05 cait         thx :)
23:05 cait         ok... i think i just turned into a pumkin
23:06 dcook        hehe
23:07 dcook        If the coach was made out of a pumpkin, what were the glass slippers made of...
23:07 cait         eggplant?
23:07 cait         can we volunteer somoene to set up a date for an election meeting next week? :)
23:13 cait         if someone has time, i think bug 13183 could be good
23:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13183 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Improve visibility of automatic on-site checkout rule when OnSiteCheckoutsForce is on
23:15 cait         or bug 12750 :)
23:15 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12750 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , koha-create should be able to configure SRU server for the created instance
23:22 cait         good night
23:22 wahanui      sleep tight
23:22 bag          night night cait
23:23 cait         bye bag :)
23:36 tcohen_      eythian: you mentioned packaging Template::Plugin::JSON::Escape was in your TODO list?
23:36 bag          hola tcohen
23:37 tcohen_      hola bag
23:37 bag          I think eythian is at a conference or something in Australia
23:37 tcohen_      ohh
23:38 dcook        Yep, he's at OSDC
23:38 bag          rangi: is that right?
23:38 bag          ah dcook knows the answer :)
23:38 dcook        I would've been there as well, but being a supportive husband instead :p
23:39 dcook        Some neat looking sessions on MySQL db replication and asynchronous Perl programming
23:41 tcohen_      hey, couldn't you bring her with you?