Time Nick Message 21:49 wnickc :) 21:49 wnickc and no prob 21:49 wahanui Don't go, wnickc. Stay a while. Stay forever. 21:49 wnickc good night 21:48 * cait logs off to get some sleep 21:48 cait wnickc: thx again! 21:18 cait hehe 21:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13169 blocker, P1 - high, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , C4::Templates::themelanguage fails if the DB is not populated 21:15 wnickc bug 13169 21:15 wnickc I say alot of things 21:15 wnickc just pretend I didn't say it 21:15 cait will see how it looks i ntesting 21:14 cait i am a bit worried about the last bit 21:13 cait looking at the comment from you #143 21:10 wnickc :) 21:10 cait wnickc: looking at relatives checkouts now... should sound familiar to you :) 21:08 cait currently it#s broken - because we removed he old opac themes and there was a side effect 21:08 cait and running the web installer 21:07 wnickc is all that is needed? 21:07 wnickc creating a new instance 'sudo koha-create --createdb wnickc' 21:06 wnickc cait: just to check the test plan 20:55 cait wnickc++ 20:52 cait if yo ustill got a little time, I think tcohen would be very happy about 13169 - and i could qa it then 20:48 wnickc indeed 20:47 cait (not breaking stuff) 20:47 cait but first it needs to get in without causing trouble by being there :) 20:46 cait i think this feature will change over time - but that's not a bad thing 20:46 cait wnickc: totally understandable :) 20:45 wnickc like course reserves used for book groups 20:44 wnickc :) 20:44 wnickc we librarians like to see how much we can get out of each feature 20:44 wnickc I could see that, all depends on how it is used 20:43 cait i think maybe something for an enh more than a bug? 20:43 cait so then you would not have defined a rental fee... but it's a good question 20:42 cait wnickc: i think most of th etime you will still have circulation conditions for those - rare books and the like 20:42 cait hm 20:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13185 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , On Site Checkouts - Should not be able to clear today's date 20:35 wnickc bug 13185 20:34 wnickc cait: usage question too, should rental fees be charged for On-site checkouts? 20:28 cait thank you :) 20:28 wnickc will do, signing off this one 20:28 cait one... after the other 20:27 cait wnickc: please file another bug 20:27 wahanui interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad 20:27 cait hm interesting 20:27 wnickc seems to follow general circ rules 20:26 cait my guess is it will default to the right one, so the bug would be more trivial 20:26 cait yeah, can you check what date you get when checking ou tthen? 20:26 wnickc prob not this bug's problem, but is maybe a new bug 20:25 wnickc still goes out as Onsite checkout, but goes out for longer 20:25 cait let me see 20:25 wnickc I can hit the clear box on the current date for onsirte 20:25 wnickc with both rpefs enabled, for a restricted patron 20:24 cait yep listening :) 20:24 wnickc all looks good in terms of test plan cait but one question 20:08 cait but phew 20:08 cait for a moment i was worried i wouldn#t get them to apply again 20:07 cait thx a lot :) 20:06 wnickc testing now 20:04 cait and the ...84 is the one to sign off .. ugh :) 20:04 cait wnickc: youcan try now i think - first 10860 then 13179 then 13184 20:01 cait hm10860 - 13183 works now... 19:52 cait :) 19:52 wnickc I am here for a bit 19:51 wnickc cait 19:51 wnickc keep me posted ciat 19:51 cait i will try to resolve 19:51 cait wnickc: git is giving me trouble :( 19:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13163: NORMARC DOM config missing entry <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4a7fa85807301ceb5268817d035235bdcf313a3> / Bug 11714: A fund is a top-level fund if it does not have any parent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0d1d9d198ebda382a47f402927240d9660bcb69> / Bug 11714 - GetBudgetHierarchy needs optimization <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha. 19:47 cait hmmm 19:47 cait you too tcohen :) 19:46 tcohen have a nice weekend #koha 19:46 tcohen not my fault :-P 19:46 tcohen hey 19:45 cait our beloved RM just pushed a new feature on the same template :) 19:44 cait hm 10860 has a little conflict - i will try to resolve 19:44 wnickc let me give it a shot 19:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13184 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Circulation template problems if OnSiteCheckouts is off but OnSiteCheckoutsForce is on 19:43 cait bug 13184, depending on 10860 19:42 cait wnickc: are you available for a sign off maybe? 19:41 cait hopefully we didn'tmiss anything - that would be really really annoying now :) 19:41 cait yeah 19:39 wnickc huzzah! That was a long one 19:31 cait rotating collections has left the building... um qa queue 19:03 cait khall_away: if you stop by, ping me? 19:02 cait khall_away: ? 19:01 * cait crosses another off the list 18:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13065 - Receive shipment error message incorrectly styled <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4dc30d48ad2ef8f5705b2a8064f2c7c5b9528284> / Bug 643 [Template follow-up] Allow override of 'debarred' status <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d17e36e366167db25caed5dcf4b2906cc84b241> / Bug 643: QA Followup - server-side verification of permissions <http://git.koha-co 18:28 wajasu scary 18:26 cait it's daaaaark 18:26 oleonard Ooh, a "CSS3 For Responsive Web Design" workshop in Oslo. I hear December in Norway is lovely. 18:10 cait :) 18:09 wahanui http://www.seoinc.com/seo-blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/arnold-commando-gif.gif 18:09 oleonard gear up! 18:09 wahanui OK, oleonard. 18:09 oleonard wahanui: gear up! is <reply> http://www.seoinc.com/seo-blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/arnold-commando-gif.gif 18:07 oleonard Yes 18:05 cait can you say that? 18:05 cait now i am gearing up for rotating collections 18:05 cait :) i just had dinner 18:02 * oleonard doesn't just eat Koha bugs, also food 18:02 oleonard I'm still on the same issue because I took a break for lunch. 18:01 cait what#s now? 18:01 cait oleonard: :( 17:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11876 [Unit test] Add a diff view to staged MARC Records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b61ebfd0fa3c8081a52c82ddc34d0cd3c0550766> / Bug 11876: (qa-followup) some minor changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=46d3e94e6649f74e1f293864ab5158440befbabb> / Bug 11876 [Follow-up] Add a diff view to staged MARC Records <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko 17:57 oleonard Ugh, on-site checkouts are making me grumpy! 17:19 huginn tcohen: msaby was last seen in #koha 1 year, 1 week, 3 days, 22 hours, 40 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <msaby> cait:so if I understant, if these fields are not harmful, better not touching it... 17:19 tcohen @seen msaby 17:19 wahanui msaby is not here for a question, but an answer ;-) 17:19 cait msaby? 17:19 cait tcohen: i think he never is these days really 17:18 tcohen is mathieu here? 17:02 oleonard I'll keep looking at it. 17:02 oleonard It's probably as simple as that. 17:01 cait missing check in the template? 17:01 cait i think that might be our fault 17:01 cait hmm 17:01 oleonard "Only on-site checkouts are allowed" appears, but submitting a barcode for checkout will show an error (e.g. "Patron's card is expired") 17:00 oleonard If OnSiteCheckouts is disabled but OnSiteCheckoutsForce is enabled the circulation page appears as if you can check out to a blocked patron 16:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10860 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , On-site checkouts (was In-House Use) 16:59 oleonard Hm, another problem with Bug 10860 I think... 16:48 fridolin bye 16:39 gaetan_B bye! 16:21 cait .... and now i am gone for a bit :) 16:21 cait thx! even 16:21 cait thx? 16:21 bag I will take a look cait 16:20 wahanui signoff is by rangi 16:20 bag signoff? 16:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13179 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Circulation page layout problem when OnSiteCheckoutsForce is enabled 16:19 cait i meant bug 13179 16:19 cait hm not that one 16:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13141 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Add ability for biblio_framework to be a dropdown in Guided Reports 16:19 cait can someon sign off bug 13141 please? :) 16:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13141: (QA Followup) Update number of unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b7a45269a6d949df84b6760857b83da8bda065c> / Bug 13141: Add ability for biblio_framework to be a dropdown in Guided Reports <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=82c65678bf86686b7cfccc41fe7f921510bfe94c> / Bug 13174 : XSLT fails if, and only if you have an author, linked to an autho 16:05 reiveune bye 15:52 cait happy halloween :) 15:49 tcohen heh 15:49 tcohen :-D 15:49 bag heya tcohen HAPPY WEEN! 15:49 * wajasu trying to use docker as well 15:48 tcohen :-D 15:48 * wajasu having fun building packages today for testing wheezy and ubuntu bugs 15:42 cait heh 15:38 bag for volunteering for QA 15:38 bag cbrannon++ 15:09 tcohen thanks oleonard 15:09 tcohen oleonardle 15:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13017 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Login page image replacement technique fails when browser width exceeds 2000 pixels 15:06 oleonard tcohen: A bug for this already exists: Bug 13017 15:04 jcamins lol 15:04 oleonard We no longer support IE6?! Oh my god why didn't anyone tell me?! 15:02 jcamins And since we no longer support IE6, we can now use max-width. 14:59 tcohen that's why i didn't understand the problem 14:59 tcohen oleonard: i wasn't thinking from an accesibility pov 14:59 jcamins tcohen: I recommend you not start reading it until after noon. 14:59 tcohen thanks jcamins! 14:59 jcamins tcohen: http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/aria.php 14:58 tcohen aria? 14:58 tcohen should work 14:58 tcohen alt 14:58 tcohen img + 14:58 jcamins Or, better, both. 14:57 jcamins Or aria markup. 14:57 jcamins What about <img src="logo.jpg"></img> with logo.jpg configurable in a syspref? 14:57 oleonard <div id="logo"/> with a background image has no meaning to a screen reader or a search engine, so in principle it is not a good solution 14:56 tcohen isn't background-image: functional? 14:56 oleonard I think I should research current image replacement techniques to see what's out there 14:55 tcohen i don't follow you oleonard, I'm just saying that there are ways of inserting images using CSS that don't rely on padding 10000px an h1 14:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12403 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Batch record deletion 14:55 cait bug 12403 14:55 nengard cait cool - what's the number on that? 14:54 oleonard Then there is no longer any semantic meaning for the element 14:53 tcohen <div id="logo"/> or something like that? 14:52 oleonard Okay then I don't understand what solution you are proposing. 14:52 tcohen i know 14:51 oleonard What you see is a symptom of the CSS image-replacement technique that uses the <h1> as a hook for showing the image 14:51 tcohen i mean, remove the H1 and insert a proper div for the logo 14:50 tcohen definitely 14:50 oleonard Since we just had a question on the mailing list about customizing the staff client logo I think we need to keep logos customizable in CSS 14:49 tcohen we should just remove it, I think 14:49 * oleonard is kidding... kinda 14:48 tcohen :-P 14:48 tcohen could you please delete it and fix the CSS so the logo shows correctly? 14:48 oleonard STOP MAXIMIZING YOUR BROWSER ON THAT BIG-ASS MONITOR :P 14:48 oleonard Oh yeah, I have a solution for that 14:48 tcohen so it is not shown :-D 14:48 tcohen that is moved like 1000px left 14:47 tcohen the webinstaller page has a useless <h1><a>Koha 3.0 Installer</a></h1> 14:47 oleonard Why? 14:47 oleonard Not quite that wide :) 14:47 * oleonard gets out his tape measure 14:46 tcohen do u have a wide screen (like 23'')? 14:46 oleonard Okay 14:46 tcohen oleonard: have a mission for you .-D 14:40 cait nengard_afk: there is also one for batch record deletes - that*s in passed qa :) 14:40 nengard thanks!! 14:40 nengard okey dokey 14:39 cait like the other batch tools 14:39 cait working with a bibnumber/authid list 14:39 cait nengard: i think that's the general one 14:38 wahanui oleonard: I forgot bug 11395 14:38 oleonard wahanui: forget Bug 11395 14:38 nengard that's not the one - that's the one for the modification templates for importing - or is that the only one? 14:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11395 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, BLOCKED , Batch modifications for records 14:37 wahanui it has been said that Bug 11395 is the sexy one. The others one are important too, they fixes some important issues 14:37 oleonard Bug 11395 14:37 cait nengard: try batch record 14:37 nengard hey all, isn't there a bug/enh for batch biblio modifications ? I can't find it 14:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13169 blocker, P1 - high, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , C4::Templates::themelanguage fails if the DB is not populated 14:35 tcohen bug 13169 13:40 cait khall++ 13:40 cait thank you :) 13:39 * druthb offers cait a cookie. 13:39 cait hi druthb :) 13:38 druthb cait: 12:59 cait yes? 12:58 tcohen cait: 12:50 cait maybe put the text into a variable then? 12:50 cait meh. 12:49 oleonard I thought so, since *some* of the newly added strings are there, but not all. 12:49 cait test is fine 12:49 cait ah sorry, wrong paste 12:49 tcohen it is 12:49 cait :( 12:49 cait don't know. would have to test 12:48 tcohen ? 12:48 oleonard Sanity check? ^^ Anyone? 12:45 tcohen hi dcook 12:42 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Sanity check: Is this the correct test for translatable strings?" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/270 12:20 magnuse jcamins: yeah, i was trying to be polite :-) 12:19 * jcamins heads out. 12:19 jcamins magnuse: I think you mean "sorry for rubbing in the fact that you have way too much of the Koha database structure memorized. 12:19 wahanui Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast. 12:19 jcamins Morning. 12:19 tcohen morning jcamins 12:18 magnuse hola tcohen 12:18 magnuse jcamins: ah, thanks. sorry for being dim! 12:18 cait morning tcohen :) 12:16 tcohen morning 12:16 jcamins magnuse: borrowers.flags? 12:12 cait oleonard++ for the 8836 template work 12:11 magnuse jcamins: sorry, what flags? there is a table called userflags, but is just a list of flags, not a connection to borrowers? 12:11 fridolin hie all 12:09 khall excellent! 12:08 cait khall: i can try again - but will look at rotating c. first 12:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , relative's checkouts in the opac 12:07 khall cait: qa followup posted for bug 9303. My db update was being a bit aggressive ; ) 12:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8836 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Resurrect Rotating Collections 12:03 oleonard khall++ # for Bug 8836 follow-ups 11:59 cait hi oleonard :) 11:59 oleonard Hi all 11:55 cait ihave worked around it by using the command line 11:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13169 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , On master 3.17.00.043 the web installing doesn't work 11:55 cait bug 13169 11:55 khall excellent! I don't need to file a bug then 11:55 cait it seems related to the template changes 11:54 cait khall: tcohen was working on ti 11:50 khall seems like a major bug, unless it's a problem with my setup. I don't get it with 3.16 though 11:50 khall I keep getting this when I try to get to the web installer on master: Template process failed: file error - doc-head-open.inc: not found at /var/lib/koha/kohaqa/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 127. 11:44 khall hmm 11:44 cait i am pretty sure that the comment from elliott at the top is not how it's implemented (sysprefs and all) 11:43 cait my problem with the hourly loans patche is that i miss a nice description and test plan 11:43 cait but will 11:43 cait can only test after work 11:42 khall it's up now! 11:40 cait yay! 11:40 khall almost done with that patch! 11:40 cait can you fix the alphabetic branches too? 11:40 cait khall :) 11:38 jcamins magnus_afk: flags 11:34 magnuse bbiab 11:33 magnuse the magic_numbers table, perhaps? ;-) 11:33 jcamins (no) 11:33 * magnuse should have suspected as much 11:33 jcamins Somewhere foolish. 11:32 magnuse any idea where it is stored? 11:32 * magnuse suspected as much 11:30 jcamins magnuse: there's a magic number. 11:09 khall cait: replied to your questions. I think Olli covered owen's question very well in comment 80 11:04 magnuse huh, how is the fact that someone is superlibrarian saved in the db? i assumed it would be in the user_permissions table 11:01 marcelr cait: probably not 11:01 cait runing off again now... but will be back 11:00 cait marcelr: if you got a bit of time left, i think 11876 would go a similar direction - catalouging... marc... :) 11:00 cait and there will be a next release.... i keep telling myself that :) 11:00 cait yeah, we can't save them all 11:00 cait marcelr: i saw, i should have checked those 10:59 marcelr sorry Joubu is not here now 10:59 marcelr cait: marc mod templates crashed at the second report ;) 10:59 cait 11 enh in the queue now 10:58 cait marcelr: aah dependency :( missed that 10:56 khall will do! 10:56 cait khall: can you take a look at my last comments on rotating collections? i think we are pretty close now - just need to fully understand it 10:55 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 10:55 cait @later tell oleonard can you file a follow-up for onsite (layout problem with force) separately if you get to it, please? 10:54 cait your patch looks good, hope we caught it all now 10:54 cait the line i put back in was in one of the earlier patches :) 10:53 cait i debated switching to the tt plugin but then was not sure if i wouldnot mess it up :) 10:53 khall np! 10:53 cait phew! 10:53 cait hi khall - thx for onsite 10:52 khall hi cait! 10:52 cait hi khall :) back for a moment 10:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11413 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Marc modification template has not the expected behavior if the condition and source fields are on the same field 10:34 * marcelr moves on to bug 11413 10:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6223 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Patron categories should have a default set of permissions 10:27 * magnuse gives bug 6223 a sharp poke in the ribs 10:26 mveron Hi drojf! 10:11 drojf hi magnuse 10:11 magnuse hiya drojf 10:10 drojf hi #koha 10:01 khall mornin! 10:01 magnuse howdy khall 09:47 cait bbl 09:42 cait yep, but now meetings first :( 09:42 marcelr we'll see 09:42 cait marcelr: i am hopeful for rotating collections and inhouse... not sure about the others 09:41 cait marcelr++ 09:41 cait :) 09:41 magnuse marcelr++ 09:41 marcelr hard to type? 09:41 cait marcelr: i am keeping fingers crossed 09:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11319 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Marc modification templates improvements 09:39 marcelr i am qaing now bug 11319 first and hope to reach 11413 and 11395 09:38 cait are you working on the batch mod things? 09:38 cait ah, iwas just referring to his last comment about having written something to do thsoe change 09:37 marcelr y 09:37 marcelr yes, but i also meant that the current marc mod templates are not always working as expected in master now alread 09:33 cait i think so too - should be no need to redevelop 09:33 marcelr some things are already in master 09:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12074 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, ASSIGNED , Filter duplicates when adding a full batch from a staged file 09:33 cait i was just hinking about you reading olli-antti's comment on bug 12074 09:32 marcelr still not really satisfied 09:32 marcelr working on marc mod templates now 09:32 cait hi marcel 09:32 marcelr hi cait 08:47 marcelr saw some commits passing by 08:46 marcelr it is removed now, i guess 08:41 magnuse tcohen tweeted that prog was deprecated, but isn't it removed? 08:37 marcelr testing++ 08:36 magnuse ...in reply to something mveron said/did 08:36 * magnuse was just checking that "nick ++" will not affect the karma of nick 08:36 marcelr :) 08:36 magnuse marcelr: yup, plenty of space here, just grab your stuff and come ;-) 08:23 gaetan_B hello 08:11 marcelr hi magnuse; still space in Norway? 07:50 huginn magnuse: Karma for "space" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 07:50 magnuse @karma space 07:50 magnuse space ++ 07:50 huginn magnuse: Karma for "space" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. 07:50 magnuse @karma space 07:50 magnuse space++ 07:50 huginn magnuse: space has neutral karma. 07:50 magnuse @karma space 07:46 reiveune hello 07:38 alex_a salut marcelr 07:38 marcelr hi alex_a 07:37 alex_a bonjour 07:33 marcelr hi #koha 07:14 mveron cait ++ :-) 07:13 mveron cati ++ 07:13 mveron magnuse ++ 07:06 cait i have to leave for an early morning meeting now *sigh* cya all later, will probably be gone all morning 07:06 cait magnuse: don't say you filled up my quue again? 07:03 magnuse cait++ for being super awesome 07:02 magnuse and hey presto, someone signed it off 06:57 * mveron needs some coffee 06:56 mveron efficient 06:56 mveron Lazy people need eficcient tools... :-) 06:55 mveron :-) 06:55 cait mveron++ # being awesome :) 06:55 magnuse mveron: nice one :-) 06:54 * mveron waves to cait :-) 06:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13176 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Add links "My account" and "My checkouts" for logged in user to drop down in staff client header 06:53 * mveron was bored to have always to search himself in staff client... Bug 13176 06:52 * cait waves at mveron and magnuse 06:52 * magnuse waves specifically at mveron 06:50 * mveron waves back 06:50 * magnuse waves 06:50 mveron Good morning (daytime) #koha 06:25 cait mveron is up early:) 03:44 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 03:29 mtompset okay. :) 03:26 eythian set -e means that the script will fail anyway, with a permission denied error. 03:26 eythian there's no point 03:22 mtompset But that is beyond the scope of the initial thought, I believe. :) 03:22 mtompset could always check if they have rights, and if not, see if they can sudo. :) 03:21 mtompset right, right. :) 03:20 eythian mtompset: no, you don't want to sudo xmlstarlet because then users that don't have access to sudo but do have access to the file can't use it. 03:20 eythian mtj: the script will fail correctly if you don't have permissions because of the set -e 03:18 mtompset I don't mind it failing without sudo, because a plain user shouldn't have the password. :) 03:17 mtompset I was just commenting in passing, because I thought that person even a sudo of the script may not function, because you don't sudo the xmlstarlet. It's a test case. 03:16 mtj mtompset: hope that clears up the expected usage ^ 03:09 mtj ...but, i do like the current 'feature' that a koha user can get their own passwd too 03:08 mtj it would be pretty easy to get the script to fail on a non-root user 03:02 mtj ah, yeah... i realised that no-args already displays some usage info 03:00 wizzyrea most people use it with sudo. 03:00 wizzyrea most people don't use it that way 03:00 wizzyrea no I don't think that's super necessary 02:44 mtj ...but that might be above my bash skills 02:43 mtj if that user is not root, blah blah 02:42 mtj i guess a followup patch would make the tool return that users passwd, without giving an explict arg 02:40 mtj foo1 user cant get foo2's password 02:39 mtj foo1-koha$ /usr/sbin/koha-passwd foo2 02:39 mtj but this would fail... 02:39 mtj foo1-koha$ /usr/sbin/koha-passwd foo1 02:39 mtj ah, typo.. 02:38 mtj ie: a koha user can get their own password - but no one elses 02:37 mtj but that works as you might hope ^ 02:37 mtj foo1-koha$ /usr/sbin/koha-passwd koha-foo1 02:34 mtj the unix-level file perms stop that from happening, anyhow 02:33 mtj yep, thats correct 02:32 wizzyrea you don't want any old user of the system to be able to see the db credentials - that seems daft. 02:32 wizzyrea and that is a feature, not a bug. 02:31 wizzyrea I was wondering about that - it's my understanding that none of those tools should work without sudo or koha-shell 02:31 wizzyrea will try to get at a signoff today 02:31 mtj the koha-passwd tool seems to work as expected, if you are the correct user 02:30 mtj thanks wizzyrea 02:21 wizzyrea mtj++ 02:19 tcohen will push tomorrow 02:19 tcohen eythian: ack 02:07 mtj oh meh, koha-list has been fixed already.. i might have grabbed an old version of the file 02:07 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 21.7°C (11:00 PM ART on October 30, 2014). 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Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 02:07 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 01:48 mtj eythian, i prefered 2-spaces for the template files, having seen the nesting madness 01:44 mtj yeah, i knwo know 01:44 wizzyrea koha list should probably use the functions too lol. :) 01:43 mtj ta, (from memory i pinched from koha-list) 01:42 wizzyrea there are probably other examples 01:42 wizzyrea yeah have a look at koha-create and koha-disable for usage examples 01:41 mtj koha common functions sound like a great idea, tho 01:41 mtj obv. i just cut/pasted 95% of my script from an existing one - so i had no idea 01:40 wizzyrea :) yeah nw, found myself untangling all that a week or so ago 01:39 mtj ta for the script info, wizzyrea ^ 01:38 mtj hi #koha 01:35 * oleonard thinks that's enough for one night 01:34 * oleonard releases Koha 4.0 -- no new features, just consistent indentation 01:34 * oleonard goes to college to learn to be RM so he can rule with an iron fist 01:21 eythian oleonard: just start slipping the emacs/vim codes to set the format to be whatever you like in the files. 01:20 oleonard In fact many seem to object to it so I should remove that from the wiki 01:20 oleonard wizzyrea: I added that based on the rules for Perl scripts, but no one actually agreed to it. 01:20 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#HTML_Templates 01:20 eythian for templates I'd be OK with two as you can have very nested markup 01:20 wizzyrea Indentation must be 4 spaces (not tabs, not 2 or 6 or 8 spaces) 01:19 * wizzyrea only knew of 4 01:19 oleonard For ages four was the de-facto standard, now everyone (but me) seems to be switching to two 01:18 oleonard Yes, but two spaces, four spaces, tabs, can we just pick one? 01:17 eythian mixing two markups is always going to be a pain. 01:17 eythian I don't think you can have a standard for that. Even when doing it a project where you're the only person, you end up having to settle on "what makes the most sense right now" 01:17 * oleonard is grumpy about spaces not being spacey enough 01:16 * oleonard wishes the discussion about setting a standard for template indentation hadn't been so useless 01:10 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded. 01:10 oleonard @later tell cait I agree about the layout problems with OnSiteCheckoutsForce. I'll see what I can do with it 01:05 eythian should use those functions whereever possible 01:05 eythian probably, yes 01:03 wizzyrea yeah, there is. mtj should use it I think. 01:03 eythian possibly, not sure 01:02 wizzyrea now 01:01 wizzyrea isn't there an "is_instance" in the common functions for debian scripts? 00:58 rangi actually most cartoon network isnt 00:58 rangi yeah, its not a kids show 00:57 * oleonard thinks that maybe Netflix shouldn't have that show on the list of stuff available to the young kids 00:55 wizzyrea lol. 00:53 wizzyrea O.o 00:52 rangi "im gonna draw on your face" 00:51 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76b62ObOQRM 00:48 eythian http://youtu.be/sgfklKnOg4w <-- oleonard, wizzyrea 00:47 wizzyrea true! 00:47 oleonard You shouldn't have watched that scary movie about the killer doll wizzyrea 00:46 wizzyrea thought* 00:46 wizzyrea oh, phew that is not what I thoutht it was. 00:46 dcook ? 00:46 wizzyrea I"m a bit frightened. 00:35 oleonard Hey 00:35 dcook oleonard: o/ 00:28 eythian new master packages are uploading, again. 00:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13143 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add a tool to show a Koha's password 00:10 dcook wizzyrea: This looks like something you'd be interested in: bug 13143 00:08 cait good night :) 00:08 cait it is quite a lot 00:06 dcook That does sound like a lot of changes 00:02 cait y 00:02 cait lots of changes on bugzilla yesterda 00:02 cait 2014-10-30 - 200 changes 00:02 dcook 13174 00:02 eythian what's the bug number for the patch? 00:02 dcook ibeardslee :P 00:02 dcook cait++ 00:02 wahanui OK, eythian. 00:02 eythian wahanui: I'm so excited is <reply>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iwBM_YB1sE 00:02 cait Patch passed qa 00:01 ibeardslee dcook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iwBM_YB1sE 00:00 dcook First saw him on The Thick of It. 00:00 dcook Seriously, I already call him Doctor Tucker at home :p 00:00 dcook I'm so excited 00:00 dcook !!! 00:00 eythian ^-- and mtompset 00:00 eythian ^-- also wizzyrea