Time  Nick           Message
00:05 rangi          hows cordoba today tcohen ?
00:09 tcohen         back online?
00:10 rangi          yep
00:17 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13115 - Holidays.t will fail some unit tests on Sundays <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7fafe2afb491c8aff468dc200c705c05b57f4991> / Bug 13114: Prevent Shibboleth Patches from spamming logs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5dfc026fad2b0e92e00e501cf15284fae042a711>
00:58 jenkins_koha   Yippee, build fixed!
00:58 wahanui        o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
00:58 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_Master_D7 build #192: FIXED in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/192/
00:58 jenkins_koha   * Martin Renvoize: Bug 13114: Prevent Shibboleth Patches from spamming logs
00:58 jenkins_koha   * Kyle M Hall: Bug 13115 - Holidays.t will fail some unit tests on Sundays
00:58 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13114 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Disabled Shibboleth authentication spams logs
00:58 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13115 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Holidays.t will fail some unit tests on Sundays
01:52 tcohen         night every1
01:55 eythian        later
02:29 jenkins_koha   Yippee, build fixed!
02:29 wahanui        o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
02:29 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_Master_U14 build #179: FIXED in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/179/
02:41 jenkins_koha   Yippee, build fixed!
02:41 wahanui        o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
02:41 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_Master_U12 build #196: FIXED in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/196/
04:54 ashimema_zzzzz /nick/
05:27 cait           morning #koha
05:34 magnuse        morning cait and #koha
05:34 cait           morning :)
05:34 magnuse        :-)
05:34 magnuse        @wunder boo
05:34 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (7:20 AM CEST on October 22, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
05:35 cait           @wunder Konstanz
05:35 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.7°C (7:30 AM CEST on October 22, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
05:35 pastebot       "paxed" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "paxed@x:~/kohadev/koha$ rgrep" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/244
05:35 cait           not much warmer :(
05:35 paxed          ^ anyone know why that would happen?
05:35 magnuse        nice day for a home office
05:37 magnuse        cait: how can your windchill make it warmer?!?
05:37 magnuse        paxed: not sure i understand the problem?
05:38 cait           me neither
05:38 paxed          not picking up the CASE 'FU' (the "Accruing fine" text won't show up)
05:38 cait           did you grep for Accruing fine too?
05:38 paxed          yes
05:38 cait           i remember translating that
05:40 paxed          this is probably a $SOME_SOFTWARE $DIFFERENT_VERSION problem. goddamnit, and not an error message in sight anywhere.
05:41 cait           hm can't find accruing on pootle
05:41 cait           *sigh*
05:42 cait           hm mybe it's not there yet
05:43 cait           hm now i found it
05:44 cait           paxed: seems ok on pootle http://translate.koha-community.org/de/316/translate/#search=payment%2Cthanks&sfields=source,target&unit=11153160
05:58 paxed          well, it should get picked up by translate update, but it doesn't, for some reason.
06:16 cait           hm not sure
06:17 paxed          i've tried deleting the po-file and recreating it, and still no go.
06:47 reiveune       hello
06:49 magnuse        bonjour reiveune
06:50 reiveune       salut magnuse cait
06:52 cait           hi reiveune and bbl
06:57 alex_a         bonjour
07:13 gaetan_B       hello
07:37 paul_p         hello #koha
07:43 magnuse        bonojur paul_p
09:00 magnuse        https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox now sets up qa-test-tools for you
09:34 cait           paul_p: around?
09:34 paul_p         cait yep
09:35 cait           paul_p: thinking about hackfest :)
09:35 paul_p         cait one is over, everybody thinking about the next one ;-)
09:36 cait           of course :)
09:39 magnuse        oh yeah!
09:45 cait           paul_p: pm
09:45 cait           :)
11:08 khall          mornin!
11:15 magnuse        hiya khall
11:15 khall          mornin!
11:16 cait           morning khall
11:16 khall          mornin cait!
11:17 cait           khall: i am still confused by the need for an new link in acq for bug 10877
11:17 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10877 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add "Order Record" processing
11:18 cait           I think what you describe there is already done when you use the 'ordr from staged'
11:18 cait           you don't have to have items in those files either - and you can use MarcFieldsToOrder to help create your items (quantity, budget, etc.)
11:18 cait           I don't see the difference
11:19 cait           the only difference i see is the prepopulating of the branche and itemtypes, but i think that culd maybe be just a checkbox somewhere
11:20 khall          Cait, order records are a type of staged record, but they behave a differently. When you get to the "editor" after you select a record, that editor behaves differently if it is an order record
11:21 cait           you write it prepulates a few fields - but wouldn't it be enough then to mark the record as order record on import?
11:21 cait           without having a different entry link to access it?
11:21 cait           use the staged marc file link and add a column that indicates which files are 'order' files
11:21 cait           and then treat it accordingly?
11:21 khall          yes, I suppose you are right. I'll have to take a look at the bug and see what I can do. I was thinking that
11:22 cait           sory to be annoying :)
11:23 cait           it just doesn't feel quite right at the moment
11:51 oleonard       Hi #koha
11:51 khall          hi oleonard!
11:52 khall          cait: is there a page on the wiki for this meeting? I can't find one
11:53 oleonard       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_22_October_2014
11:54 khall          thanks oleonard!
11:56 oleonard       I'm glad I checked the time. I didn't remember it was different this time.
12:18 tcohen         morning!
12:21 oleonard       Good morning tcohen and francharb
12:21 tcohen         hi oleonard
12:21 francharb      good morning oleonard
12:21 francharb      good morning tcohen
12:22 tcohen         hi francharb
12:25 oleonard       Looking at Bug 11926...
12:25 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11926 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , HEA - Render community koha statistic usages
12:25 oleonard       "Share data volumetry on the Hea Koha community website." Although "volumetry" appears to be a real word I had to look it up.
12:26 oleonard       Would "Share data on the Hea Koha community website" be just as accurate?
12:26 oleonard       ...or is there a nuance I'm missing?
12:32 magnuse        maybe a distinction between actual data for individual libraries on the one hand and aggregate/average data on the other?
12:33 magnuse        dunno though, just a hunch
12:34 tcohen         oleonard: i'd say "statistical data"
12:34 tcohen         not plain data
12:35 oleonard       Oh, I see that elsewhere it uses "usage data." Better?
12:36 tcohen         oleonard: i'm fine with that
12:37 tcohen         just want t make it obvious that it is anonymous data, somehow
12:37 tcohen         also that is an opt-in feature
12:37 tcohen         is matthieu saby here?
12:38 tcohen         matts_away?
12:38 wahanui        hmmm... matts_away is leaving the party :)
12:38 cait           oleonard: my gues is that volumetry refers to the item, biblio and other counts on the website
12:38 cait           but maybe also the prefs?
12:38 magnuse        tcohen: msaby is probably not around, i don't think he is working a lot on koha anymore
12:39 cait           tcohen: matts is matts is from biblibre :)
12:39 tcohen         cait: 9828 doesn't apply cleanly, and it doesn't contain tests :-/
12:39 akafred        Hi :-) Are there any videos, slides, minutes, transcripts from Kohacon14? Or did you have to be there? :-)
12:39 cait           bug 9828
12:39 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9828 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Passed QA , Zebra indexes useless subfields in UNIMARC 6XX
12:40 tcohen         i think it is easy to rebase
12:40 cait           hm we didn't ask for tests so far for index changes
12:40 magnuse        is there an equivalent to OPACItemHolds for the intranet? to enforce placing holds on individual items or next available?
12:40 cait           akafred: there are, sec
12:41 cait           ohoh
12:41 cait           when is the meeting?
12:41 oleonard       19 minutes
12:41 magnuse        in 20 minutes, i think?
12:41 cait           akafred: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Kohacon14/Schedule
12:41 magnuse        what he said
12:42 cait           tcohen: maybe we need to remind people to upload their slides :)
12:42 cait           will ask rangi about ours
12:42 tcohen         cait: yes
12:42 tcohen         i think your's is online
12:42 cait           yeah, but not sure if that's a long term thing
12:43 * oleonard     wonders, "Self-destructing slides?"
12:45 tcohen         cait: where should i upload my slides?
12:46 cait           if it works i think to the wiki
12:47 cait           like here? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon13_Program
12:51 thd            tcohen: you should be able to upload slides to the wiki.
12:52 thd            tcohen: the wiki does have file type constraints for uploaded files.  Let me know if those need adjustment for your slides.
12:52 * oleonard     shouldn't have looked at that page, is now sad again
12:53 * cait         sends cookies
12:54 tcohen         thd: had read you later :-( i already uploaded to slideshare
12:54 tcohen         and added a link
12:55 thd            Having them online in some manner is the most important issue.
12:56 tcohen         :-D
12:56 thd            Having them online with a free software platform would be better than a non-free one.
12:58 tcohen         thd: how do i upload another slide?
12:58 tcohen         (not mine)
12:58 * thd          checks
12:59 tcohen         maybe "Upload file"
13:00 * tcohen       has been lazy, sorry thd
13:00 thd            http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Managing_files
13:00 barton         morning, #koha.
13:01 oleonard       So, uh... Meeting time?
13:02 thd            tcohen: Are you leading the meeting?
13:02 barton         that's what the topic says :-)
13:02 paul_p         yep, seems it's 13UTC ;-)
13:03 * tcohen       didn't have it on his calendar
13:03 paul_p         no brooke yet ?
13:03 oleonard       gmcharlt awake yet?
13:03 tcohen         i can be here only 1 hour
13:03 tcohen         6:03 am for gmcharlt
13:03 edveal         Morning #koha
13:03 tcohen         hi paul_p
13:04 paul_p         tcohen only 1 hour mean we will be efficient, and back to hacking soon ;-)
13:04 thd            It is even a little early for brooke's time zone.
13:05 paul_p         tcohen agenda is here : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_22_October_2014
13:05 tcohen         #startmeeting General IRC meeting 22 October 2014
13:05 huginn         Meeting started Wed Oct 22 13:05:13 2014 UTC.  The chair is tcohen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
13:05 huginn         Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
13:05 huginn         The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_22_october_2014'
13:05 tcohen         #topic Introductions
13:05 wahanui        #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
13:05 oleonard       Someone must have thought this was a good time for a meeting :|
13:05 tcohen         Please introduce yourselves, using #info name
13:05 paul_p         #info Paul Poulain, BibLibre
13:05 tcohen         #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Universidad Nacional de Cordoba
13:05 oleonard       #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries
13:05 barton         #info Barton Chittenden, Bywater Solutions, Louisville KY USA
13:05 jwagner        #info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS
13:06 magnuse        #info Magnus Enger, Oslo Public Library
13:06 khall          #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions
13:06 edveal         #info Ed Veal, ByWater Solutions
13:07 tcohen         ok, moving on
13:07 dani           #info Dani Elder, ByWater Solutions
13:07 fridolin       hie all
13:07 tcohen         will wait for frido
13:07 thd            #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
13:07 fridolin       tcohen: here I am
13:07 meliss         #info Melissa Lefebvre, ByWater Solutions
13:08 tcohen         moving on
13:08 tcohen         #topic Announcements
13:08 magnuse        good turnout from bywater :-)
13:08 tcohen         any announcements?
13:08 tcohen         paul_p?
13:08 wahanui        hmmm... paul_p is the 3.8 release manager, and is very tall, and does not like coffee.
13:09 magnuse        and has a beard!
13:09 paul_p         mmm... not that I see (am I forgetting something ?)
13:09 paul_p         (STRONG wind in Marseille today, but that's not an announcement for this meeting ;-) )
13:10 tcohen         heh
13:10 bgkriegel      #info Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel, Córdoba
13:10 cait           tcohen: you found msaby :)
13:11 cait           oh
13:11 cait           #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany
13:11 tcohen         heh
13:11 tcohen         cait: no
13:11 tcohen         #topic Update on old releases
13:11 tcohen         khall: 3.12?
13:11 wahanui        rumour has it 3.12 is due to be released on May 22, 2013. Master entered a feature slush on March 15, 2013, and will enter a feature freeze on March 22, 2013 and a string freeze on May 1
13:11 cait           #link : http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_22_October_2014
13:12 tcohen         fridolin: comments on 3.14?
13:13 khall          3.12 is getting to the point where there are few if any applicable patches
13:13 fridolin       nothing special
13:13 tcohen         #info Kyle says 3.12 is getting to the point where there are few if any applicable patches
13:13 fridolin       I wich I could spend more time on intergrating patches
13:14 tcohen         #info Fridolin says he doesn't have enough time to spend on integrating patches
13:14 tcohen         are there any big bugs on those releases that need our attention?
13:14 tcohen         i.e. help backporting?
13:15 tcohen         remember we are here to help :-D
13:16 paul_p         hey, one annoucement that everybody has probably seen : if you've a "forbiden date" for the Hackfest in Marseille in feb/mar 2015, drop me an email !
13:16 tcohen         omnipresent bgkriegel
13:17 tcohen         ok, anyone wants to say something about 3.16?
13:17 paul_p         I plan to choose the date in november
13:17 cait           for a moment I read... a date in november :)
13:18 tcohen         #info Marseille's dates will be chosen in November 2014, please answer Paul's email on "forbidden dates" before November
13:18 tcohen         ok, update on 3.18
13:19 * tcohen       hopes 3.18 shines
13:19 tcohen         :-P
13:19 paul_p         tcohen = any patch needing attention you'd like to see included ?
13:19 paul_p         (for 3.18) ?
13:19 tcohen         that's what i was looking for
13:20 paul_p         I'd like to rise the "hea" patch, it's a very useful addition, no side effect, and will give us a lot of interesting informations about Koha users !
13:20 tcohen         paul_p: HEA is already integrated in my local branch
13:20 paul_p         i've seen your email about some description, will send
13:20 tcohen         waiting for some wording review
13:20 paul_p         (will add a comment on the bz)
13:20 * oleonard     is doing so now
13:21 tcohen         oleonard++
13:21 barton         link to HEA in bugzilla?
13:21 magnuse        are there dates for 3.18 feature freeze etc yet?
13:21 oleonard       Bug 11926
13:21 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11926 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , HEA - Render community koha statistic usages
13:21 tcohen         #link http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11926
13:21 huginn         04Bug 11926: new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , HEA - Render community koha statistic usages
13:21 barton         oleonard++
13:22 paul_p         tcohen = anything pending around plack or Unimarc & dom changes ? anything about facets in zebra ?
13:22 tcohen         i was about to say
13:22 tcohen         #info tcohen urges people to look at the plack related patches
13:23 tcohen         #info Zebra facets should be tested a lot :-D
13:23 tcohen         also, there are several UNIMARC patches that recently failed to apply
13:23 tcohen         (my fault, because of the changes I made on the XSLT files)
13:23 cait           thre is also a follow up for facets that needs signoff i think
13:23 wahanui        okay, cait.
13:23 cait           the pref for choosing the number of facets?
13:23 tcohen         yes
13:24 magnuse        tcohen: are there dates for 3.18 feature slush/freeze etc yet?
13:24 tcohen         there will be another nso for warning the user in the about page for conflicting zebra facets configuration
13:24 cait           paul_p: do you thik someon could take a look at the tests failing for bug 10860?
13:24 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10860 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , On-site checkouts (was In-House Use)
13:25 paul_p         tcohen you mean someone excluding joubu that is afk for 3 weeks ? I don't think so. everybody too busy at BibLibre
13:26 paul_p         s/tcohen/cait/, sorry
13:26 khall          paul_p: I'll take a look at it. If it's something simple I can take care of it
13:27 * paul_p       bet the test fail because of some missing data in the db...
13:27 paul_p         thx khall
13:27 khall          np!
13:27 magnuse        khall++
13:27 barton         magnuse -- he gets that all the time ;-)
13:28 tcohen         magnuse: feature freeze will be friday 31
13:28 cait           or maybe because of the db changes and some test needs adjusting khall++
13:28 cait           khall: i am very interested in that feature, woudl be nice to see it move
13:29 cait           tcohen: #info? :)
13:29 cait           #info Feature freeze will be Friday 31 October
13:29 tcohen         info Feature freeze for 3.18 is October 31
13:29 oleonard       Wow that's really soon.
13:29 magnuse        it is!
13:29 tcohen         time goes by!
13:30 magnuse        it sure does
13:30 tcohen         i expect you all email me about those features you expected for 3.18 and are close to be finished
13:30 tcohen         so we find the way
13:30 tcohen         we still have a week and a half
13:31 tcohen         and the PQA queue doubles the SO one in amount of bugs
13:31 magnuse        me would like to see bug 11401 go in, but that is only of interest to norwegian libraries...
13:31 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Add support for Norwegian national library card
13:31 cait           and feature freeze is not push freeze... but we need to have a deadline
13:31 cait           to wrk thorugh the things in pqa i think
13:31 tcohen         magnuse: that one is on the list
13:31 cait           and give tiime for translators
13:31 magnuse        yay
13:31 tcohen         fell free to ask me for any help you might need to make it faster
13:32 tcohen         that's an opt-in feature that wouldn't break any other feature
13:33 paul_p         I'm also really willing to see the updatedatabase improvement, written by me, rewritten by marcel, going in.
13:33 paul_p         will be a wunderbach improvement for sandboxes !
13:33 magnuse        yeah, that would be cool
13:33 tcohen         paul_p: link?
13:33 wahanui        i heard link was broken. Also, we don't know what tools you're using to create the marc, but there is probably an option in that tool.
13:33 magnuse        and how about the big utf8 bug?
13:33 magnuse        bug 11944
13:34 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
13:34 tcohen         i'll be working on it today and tomorrow
13:34 magnuse        woohoo!
13:34 paul_p         bz 13068
13:34 magnuse        tcohen++
13:34 paul_p         bug 13068
13:34 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , New feature for DB update and sandbox
13:34 bgkriegel_     i can add 3.18 to translation server soon, to give more time to translators (after feature freeze)
13:35 tcohen         bgkriegel++
13:35 tcohen         #action Bernardo will add 3.18 soon on the translation server
13:36 paul_p         tcohen about 13068, I'll sign-off asap (new signoff needed I think, as it's almost a complete rewrite). khall would you be OK to QA it after ? (ill' drop you an email once I've signed off)
13:36 tcohen         #info Tomas has asked people who wrote new features / enhancements to drop some lines for the release notes, please contact him if you have something to say
13:36 tcohen         paul_p: that's fine
13:36 cait           bgkriegel++ :)
13:37 khall          paul_p: absolutely!
13:37 tcohen         it is mostly a change in the updatedatabase maintenance workflow
13:37 tcohen         ok, moving on?
13:37 khall          paul_p: ping me here as well once it's signed
13:37 * magnuse      gotta run, sorry
13:38 bgkriegel_     If someone has time (magnuse) perhaps a look to Bug 7939
13:38 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Separate po files for different MARC dialects
13:38 tcohen         before we move on, PLEASE CONTACT ME for anything 3.18 related, better sooner than later
13:38 tcohen         ok
13:38 cait           also tell me if one of your patches is more important than another, so we can give it prio in qa
13:38 paul_p         tcohen = can I get coffee with my 3.18 please ?
13:38 paul_p         :D
13:39 tcohen         sure :-D
13:39 tcohen         #topic Code of Conduct
13:39 cait           tcohen: alfajores please :) I am running out
13:39 tcohen         #link https://github.com/gmcharlt/koha-code-of-conduct
13:40 tcohen         thd: you proposed some ammendments
13:40 tcohen         #link http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2014-August/040462.html
13:40 tcohen         #info The current code of conduct was distributed to KohaCon14 atendees
13:41 thd            I also submitted a patch against the repository.
13:41 tcohen         and fortunately we didn't need to use it
13:41 thd            We hope that we would always never need to use it.
13:41 tcohen         is your patch applied to the one in galen's repo?
13:42 tcohen         i don't see it
13:42 thd            The patch is against the repo but gmcharlt does not seem to have taken the time to post a branch with the patch.
13:43 tcohen         ah
13:43 tcohen         so we cannot vote on it??
13:43 thd            The content of the patch is the same as the text changes in my email except:
13:44 thd            I correct a misspelling ant-harassment to anti-harassment and
13:44 thd            the verbose phrase for 24 hours to 24 hours.
13:45 thd            Yes I think that we should be able to vote on it as a whole or the parts in my email individually.
13:47 thd            Does anyone have questions about my proposed amendments or specific amendments to it?
13:48 thd            No had raised any on the mailing list when I had last checked.
13:48 thd            I suggest that we vote on the proposed amendments  as a whole.
13:48 tcohen         i have no personal objections to the ammendments
13:49 paul_p         same thing for me
13:49 thd            If it fails we can enquire if there are objections to particular parts which might be changed.
13:49 barton         yep. I'm good with the ammendments -- I really want to be able to harass ants again.
13:49 tcohen         heh
13:49 talljoy        heh
13:50 tcohen         thdta
13:50 tcohen         hi talljoy
13:50 talljoy        hi tcohen
13:50 tcohen         smuxi autocomplete seems, funny
13:50 paul_p         (and my opinion about this code of conduct is that we never had any problem, so adopting a coc may be good, but no need to discuss it for years ;-) )
13:50 talljoy        #info Joy Nelson ByWater Solutions
13:50 barton         paul_p++
13:50 tcohen         if there are no objections...
13:51 thd            paul_p: My only concern is that if we would ever have a problem that we should have something more refined than the existing version.
13:51 paul_p         thd = let's fix it when we face it then
13:51 paul_p         "if it work, don't fix it" ;-)
13:51 tcohen         yeah
13:51 tcohen         ok, we agree on the changes
13:51 barton         +1
13:52 paul_p         +1
13:52 thd            paul_p: I actually do not think that the existing language "works".
13:52 dani           +1
13:52 tcohen         +1
13:52 thd            +1
13:52 bgkriegel_     +1
13:52 talljoy        +1
13:52 edveal         +1
13:52 tcohen         #agreed Thomas Dukleth ammendments to the CoC
13:53 tcohen         #info CoC can be improved in future iterations
13:53 tcohen         of course heh
13:53 tcohen         #topic KohaCon14
13:54 tcohen         #info KohaCon14 was a huge success for the local community, lots of universities
13:54 thd            Maybe at some point someone will find some language to apply the wording to the mailing list etc. other than by some ambiguous invokation statement.
13:54 paul_p         kohacon14 was awful. Very poor welcoming from argentinian ppl. Should we say more ?
13:54 paul_p         :D :D :D
13:54 tcohen         :-/
13:54 talljoy        lol
13:54 * talljoy      is not sure who paul_p met....
13:55 tcohen         #actions Tomas will try to upload all presentations for the wiki
13:55 paul_p         very small meat pieces in our plates, very cloudy weather. everything was wrong...
13:55 thd            :)
13:55 talljoy        naughty boy
13:55 paul_p         (and a choir singing, oh my god, it was so awful...)
13:55 tcohen         #action Tomas will try to upload all presentations for the wiki
13:56 * talljoy      wonders who gave paul_p coffee this morning
13:56 paul_p         talljoy reminder= I don't drink coffee ;-)
13:56 talljoy        that's my point!
13:56 tcohen         #action We are finishing the production of a short film about the Koha project/community history
13:56 paul_p         and it's 4PM here
13:57 tcohen         btw, bgkriegel_ we need to attend that interviews in 5 minutes
13:57 paul_p         ok, back to being serious.
13:57 bgkriegel_     yeah
13:57 paul_p         in case there's any newbie here: I was kidding. It was wonderful !
13:57 tcohen         :-D
13:57 barton         tcohen: that sounds cool... who is producing it?
13:57 tcohen         barton: :-D
13:58 paul_p         barton = I don't know, all what I know is that we've all been interviewed one by one. and at the end, we had some words to say, they'll probably make a patchwork from them
13:58 talljoy        "I AM THE KOHA"
13:58 paul_p         barton (I've been itw in french. the result will be funny...)
13:59 tcohen         we are putting subtitles to it
13:59 paul_p         I hope ;-)
13:59 paul_p         next topic ? (tcohen: look at your watch)
13:59 * barton       looks forward to seeing that.
13:59 tcohen         barton: we appointed two proffesionals to make the video
14:00 tcohen         #chair paul_p
14:00 huginn         Current chairs: paul_p tcohen
14:00 tcohen         :-D
14:00 tcohen         already late!
14:00 tcohen         #topic KohaCon15
14:00 thd            :)
14:00 paul_p         hey, no, I don't want to chair!
14:00 talljoy        hahahahaha
14:00 paul_p         (and I really don't know how to do it !!!)
14:00 tcohen         bbl :-D
14:01 thd            paul_p:  There is almost nothing left.
14:01 paul_p         KohaCon15, we've only one candidate, no news from them for some months. What should we do ?
14:01 cait           i think write them an email :)
14:01 paul_p         should we drop them an email to ask for confirmation of their application ?
14:01 paul_p         ok, cait, we agree ;-)
14:02 thd            Yes, exactly.
14:02 paul_p         if you want, I'll do that.
14:02 cait           that's ok for me
14:02 paul_p         anyone objecting ? any objection ?
14:03 paul_p         #action paul will drop a mail to nigerian candidate for KohaCon15, to check if they're still voluntering, as they're the only candidate, if they are, they win
14:03 cait           #action paul_p is going to contact the Nigerian KohaCon15 applicants to get confirmation that they will organize KohaCon15 (no vote this year, as only one application)
14:03 cait           heh :)
14:03 thd            paul_p: type #action paul_p will send email asking only submitter about status of application for KohaCon15
14:04 talljoy        i think we got that covered....in triplicate
14:04 paul_p         next topic then:  Actions from General IRC meeting 24 September 2014
14:04 paul_p         I don't see any action. Am I missing something ?
14:04 thd            paul_p: use #topic
14:05 paul_p         talljoy I hope I won't forget ;-)
14:05 paul_p         #topic Actions from General IRC meeting 24 September 2014
14:05 paul_p         am I missing something ?
14:05 paul_p         ... 3
14:05 oleonard       I don't see anything paul_p
14:06 paul_p         ... 2
14:06 paul_p         ... 1
14:06 paul_p         ok, next topic then
14:06 paul_p         #topic Removing/amending "Preferably, patch writer and patch signer should not be from the same company or institution."
14:07 paul_p         this topic has been discussed a lot in Cordoba, brendan wrote an email about the discussion on #koha-devel
14:07 paul_p         any objection or comment ?
14:08 paul_p         so let's vote ?
14:08 talljoy        +1
14:08 khall          +1
14:08 barton         +1
14:08 paul_p         +1 (of course)
14:08 meliss         +1
14:08 dani           +1
14:08 oleonard       -1
14:08 cait           0 - but let's try and see
14:09 edveal         +1
14:10 paul_p         no other vote ?
14:10 * thd          distracted
14:11 paul_p         ok, adopted then. (someone will have to explain me how to express results in the minutes...)
14:11 thd            paul_p: use #info I think
14:11 cait           or #agreed
14:11 talljoy        yes ^
14:11 thd            what cait wrote
14:12 paul_p         #agreed amending patch workflow +1 = 7 votes, -1 = 1 vote, 0= 1 vote
14:12 paul_p         (is it OK ?)
14:12 paul_p         (properly written I mean)
14:12 talljoy        try it in french....
14:13 paul_p         #topic Set time and date of next General IRC meeting
14:13 * thd          is unclear exactly what the amendment is.
14:13 paul_p         thd = (look at koha-devel, brendan's email)
14:13 thd            adding or removing?
14:13 cait           thd: it will be possible to do an internal sign off on a patch
14:13 talljoy        amending a guideline
14:13 barton         thd: removing.
14:14 cait           thd: so one developer of a company develops the patch, another can sign it off
14:14 oleonard       "Proposal for a change in guidelines for the sign-off process in the Koha-community" was the subject
14:14 thd            That is what I had thought sadly ;(
14:14 talljoy        thd can always be reverted if abused.
14:15 thd            I understand the legitimate motivation for lack of time and attention from others.
14:15 cait           that's what was agreed on
14:15 paul_p         I've been the one promoting this change for the longest time. Believe me, I would be the 1st to propose to revert it if things goes wrong !
14:15 cait           and to revisit it every release
14:15 talljoy        yes
14:16 talljoy        paul_p how is the next meeting time selected?
14:16 cait           i will also push back patches for a second sign off if i feel it needs another set of eyes (like we do now with big patches too)
14:16 cait           we move by 8 hours backwards i think
14:16 paul_p         talljoy usually -8 hours. So 5UTC
14:16 talljoy        okay and the date?
14:16 talljoy        1 month forward?
14:16 cait           yep, about a month forward
14:16 cait           with some variation of the day
14:17 paul_p         next meeting 5UTC, at which date ? nov 19th ?
14:17 talljoy        no objection
14:17 cait           close to release :)
14:17 paul_p         yep.
14:17 paul_p         close to release
14:17 cait           sounds goot to me
14:17 oleonard       Is 5UTC a good meeting time for a good number of people?
14:17 talljoy        not i
14:17 cait           need to check
14:17 paul_p         oleonard kiwis like it, others don't ;-)
14:18 paul_p         5UTC will be 4AM here.
14:18 talljoy        midnight or so for me
14:18 paul_p         (in France I mean)
14:18 cait           eek
14:18 cait           so not a good time for europe
14:18 paul_p         sorry, 6AM. not so bad, but not good either
14:18 talljoy        not good for europe or north america
14:18 cait           hm 6 would be ok, but are you sure?
14:18 thd            When did we decide to rotate instead of two meeting times in the same day?
14:18 oleonard       We didn't, that was the previous procedure.
14:18 barton         that would be midnight US EST.
14:19 oleonard       Two meeting times didn't seem to work because of low turnout in the second meeting?
14:19 paul_p         I thought the 2 meeting times was for dev meetings. Am I wrong ?
14:19 thd            oleonard: When did we decide to revert to the previous procedure?
14:20 paul_p         (the 2nd chairman will also leave the keyboard soon... in 10mn max)
14:20 thd            paul_p: No, before the last general meeting we had two times for the general meeting also.
14:20 oleonard       I don't think we should choose a meeting time when none present will be able to attend.
14:21 oleonard       I think we should propose a widely acceptable time and encourage those for whom it doesn't work to propose a second meeting (with volunteer chair)
14:21 thd            Exactly, which is why was choose two different times for the same meeting.
14:22 thd            s/was choose/we had been using/
14:22 thd            Is 5UTC widely acceptable?
14:23 barton         no.
14:23 paul_p         what about 8UTC ? Should be OK for kiwis, and OK for europe. not exactly 8h shift, but 5
14:23 thd            2 UTC was not widely acceptable and had led to empty meetings.
14:23 talljoy        oleanard care to get up at 3am?
14:24 paul_p         thd = it's wrong for everyone except aussies, kiwis, japan & china. But we have no chinese of japanese contributors...
14:24 oleonard       talljoy: Nope
14:24 talljoy        there is no such thing as a good time
14:24 fridolin       sorry reboot
14:24 talljoy        paul_p i say we go with the standard meeting protocol setting.
14:24 talljoy        it's going to be bad for someone somewhere.
14:25 paul_p         yep, I agree.
14:25 thd            tallyjoy: which is why I thought two times seemed to be working much better than rotation.
14:25 talljoy        i nominate you to host the second meeting then thd
14:25 thd            Ok, I will host a second meeting on the date.
14:26 thd            When should that be?
14:26 talljoy        pick your time
14:26 paul_p         nov 19th, then
14:26 paul_p         5UTC and ... (thd, pick your time)
14:26 thd            What was the second time we had recently?
14:27 thd            22 UTC was it?
14:27 talljoy        22UTC it is on 11/19
14:27 oleonard       That was the second time which was supposed to work for NZ
14:28 paul_p         thd : UTC, it's 5 / 13 / 21
14:28 paul_p         (8 hours difference x3)
14:29 paul_p         thd ?
14:29 wahanui        thd is probably concerned that CCL, Pazpar2, and Zebra support should not be an either that or Solr/Lucene option.  We need CCL and Pazpar2 for metasearch and we currently need Zebra for a Z39.50/SRU server. or concerned that indentation styles which do not collapse in vim lead to overly long lines which cannot always be broken across multiple lines.
14:29 thd            21 UTC is also fine and might be better for local time adjustments.
14:29 thd            I suggest both UTC 5 and UTC 21 on 19 Nov.
14:30 barton         +1
14:30 paul_p         #action next meeting november, 19th, will be made twice at 5UTC (chairman volunteer expected !) and 21UTC (thd chairing)
14:30 paul_p         how do I declare the meeting end ?
14:30 thd            paul #endmeeting
14:30 * paul_p       newbie at chairing...
14:30 paul_p         #endmeeting
14:30 huginn         Meeting ended Wed Oct 22 14:30:51 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
14:30 huginn         Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting_22_october_2014.2014-10-22-13.05.html
14:30 huginn         Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting_22_october_2014.2014-10-22-13.05.txt
14:30 huginn         Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting_22_october_2014.2014-10-22-13.05.log.html
14:30 talljoy        paul_p++
14:31 barton         paul_p++
14:31 paul_p         will update wiki immediatly
14:31 thd            paul_p++
14:31 barton         paul_p: https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot
14:32 paul_p         ok, leaving now !
14:35 oleonard       I have some revisions for the preference descriptions in the  Hea patch, but I'm not sure if we should address the question of making it clearer that the feature is optional
14:36 thd            When is the next technical meeting?
14:39 oleonard       There is no upcoming dev meeting listed in the wiki as far as I can tell.
14:39 oleonard       And no minutes posted for the last one listed: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting,_16_September_2014
14:39 thd            Was a time for the next technical meeting discussed in Argentina?  I did not find it on the mailing list or wiki.
14:41 oleonard       cait still around?
14:41 thd            There were minutes even if not posted.  The issue was deferred to consideration at KohaCon and the mailing list.
14:41 cait           on the phone sec
14:41 oleonard       No rush
14:45 barton         hey, there's a patch that I *thought* that I had run across a few days ago, but now I can't find it... something about moving the determination of 'available' out of zebra on the search results page... does that ring a bell with anyone?
14:54 paul_p         oleonard = about the hea patch, feel free to revise description. they've been made by a french speaking person ;-)
14:54 paul_p         (and the feature is optional, but the better spelling we have the better it is ;-)
14:55 oleonard       paul_p: It creates kind of a maintenance problem for the future, requiring that the list of system preferences be updated as they are added
14:56 paul_p         oleonard yep, it's not a bug it's a feature ! not all sysprefs must be shared
14:57 oleonard       Yes. I can see why you wanted to make a custom list.
14:57 paul_p         oleonard that's why the list has been written in hea patch. things like "libraryname" or "authorized IPs" should not be included
14:58 oleonard       paul_p: I'm think we should change the UsageStatsShare preference to be simply UsageStats so that it shows up first in the list of UsageStats* preferences
15:00 paul_p         oleonard I've nothing against it (except it will have to be updated on all our customers that have it, and sophie will not be happy ;-) )
15:04 oleonard       Here's a question for anyone listening: The Hea patch lists "public" and "university" as the only two options for "library type." What would you add?
15:04 oleonard       school, private, special?
15:05 cait           oleonard: here now
15:06 cait           oleonard: hm i think rangi might have been working on a foloow up for that
15:06 cait           i think more would be better, adding school, special like you said
15:06 cait           maybe research
15:06 oleonard       cait: I was wondering if your concern about the LibraryName and LibraryURL being mandatory was addressed in a follow-up yet
15:07 cait           it didn't seem to be mandatory, but I am not clear on the use yet :(
15:07 oleonard       "The library name will be shown on the Hea Koha community website. If this field is empty data will be sent anonymously."
15:07 cait           it seemed to work for me without giving them - you can test with hea.koha-community.org
15:08 cait           activate it and then run the cronjob and your library data will show up there
15:08 cait           oleonard: sounds optional
15:08 cait           http://hea.koha-community.org/
15:08 cait           it's not shown currently, but maybe it's planned for the future
15:09 oleonard       I wonder if a blank option should be available for UsageStatsLibraryType
15:09 cait           hm i like the idea
15:12 oleonard       Hm, is that possible?
15:15 oleonard       OFF: "" seems to work
15:15 cait           hm would think it should
15:16 cait           oleonard: the problem is joubu not being around before feature freeze - i think we can improve, but shoudl not push it back if possible
15:18 oleonard       What do you mean by push it back? Ask for revisions?
15:18 reiveune       bye
15:18 khall          paul_p: I was able to fix up bug 10860, but it took a lot more work than I thought it would. I think I had to edit so much code I'm disqualified from QA'ing it!
15:18 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10860 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , On-site checkouts (was In-House Use)
15:19 oleonard       paul_p if you're still around, is there a reason why you chose to have UsageStatsLibraryType default to "public" instead of being empty?
15:19 cait           khall: i can try :)
15:19 khall          cait: please do!
15:20 cait           i will also try to work through the gst patches
15:20 cait           hopefully i am not getting stuck on dependencies
15:21 khall          the on-site checkouts should be very straight forward
15:21 cait           and khall++ :)
15:21 thd            cait: Do you know anything about the next time for a technical meeting?
15:22 cait           thd: hm nothing on the wiki?
15:22 cait           i am not sure actually
15:22 cait           i think we missed the last one
15:22 thd            I also missed the last one.
15:22 oleonard       thd: We call those developer meetings, or dev meetings
15:22 cait           oleonard: not trying to rewrite it... if we find a big flaw, of course
15:23 thd            oleonard: Yes, I could not bring the word to mind earlier because it was starring at me.
15:23 thd            :)
15:23 oleonard       Okay I will defer updates to the library types option til later
15:24 cait           maybe make a separate bug?
15:24 cait           it's quickly done, not sure if it needs changes on the hea server atm
15:34 fridolin       see u
15:35 oleonard       Follow-up attached to Bug 11926
15:35 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11926 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , HEA - Render community koha statistic usages
15:35 cait           :)
15:35 cait           bye all
15:35 cait           !
15:43 oleonard       tcohen: The new facets feature is in master now?
15:47 oleonard       Oh I see, Bug 11232
15:47 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Retrieve facets from Zebra
15:50 oleonard       I should manually update koha-conf.xml?
15:52 gaetan_B       bye
16:04 oleonard       Zebra facets means that facets are drawn from the whole result set now right?
16:10 oleonard       Sharks are cartilaginous fish, right?
16:13 oleonard       As a comet gets close to the Sun, it loses some of its mass due to sublimation, right?
16:17 oleonard       Stuck in web installer loop.
16:17 oleonard       Also, talking to myself apparently.
16:31 cma            hey oleonard, I'm here but not sure of the answer to your question.  I think I saw a push for that on the dashboard recently.
17:04 tcohen         hey oleonard-away
17:37 tcohen         @later tell oleonard you could "upgrade" your config files
17:37 huginn         tcohen: The operation succeeded.
17:40 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13104 - Changing date or time format on a production server will create duplicate... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=99bfa09cc66567811bb34a504d4507f0f20c6586> / Bug 12005 : Creating a new zebra connection for each time we need one <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=41168fb551ceeb905b75e496eca02bb0076242be> / Bug 12884: Get rid of redefined subroutine warning
17:49 oleonard       "upgrade" my config files tcohen?
17:50 tcohen         sorry
17:50 tcohen         are you talking about your dev setup?
17:50 oleonard       Yes
17:51 tcohen         have you tweaked somehow your indexes?
17:51 oleonard       No
17:52 tcohen         what I did was rm -rf ~/koha-dev ; perl Makefile.PL :-P
17:52 tcohen         but maybe an upgrade might do it right
17:53 tcohen         like in perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log
18:06 tcohen         oleonard: success?
18:06 wahanui        success is a good thing jenkins
18:12 oleonard       How do I know that the facets I'm seeing are Zebra facets?
18:21 magnuse        oleonard, tcohen: you will need "make upgrade" too, i think?
18:22 tcohen         oleonard: take a look at the zebra server logs
18:22 magnuse        @wunder boo
18:22 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 2.0°C (8:00 PM CEST on October 22, 2014). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
18:23 tcohen         something similar to this maybe: [log] facet first phase real=0.00 cat=index
18:23 magnuse        yup, light snow it is...
18:25 tcohen         oleonard: do u have use_zebra_facets=1 on koha-conf.xml?
18:30 huginn         New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11926: DBRev 3.17.00.030 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=01cbfb13737f6afad8c938326521c55600d40678> / Bug 11926 [Follow-up] HEA - Render community koha statistic usages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb33584de75c57a7b772d7332000b91f097fc664> / Bug 11926: Follow-up - Fix new cronjob's file permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=com
18:33 magnuse        hea in da house!
18:42 tcohen         does this sound ok?
18:42 tcohen         "The use_zebra_facets entry is missing in your configuration file. Falling back to legacy facets calculation."
18:44 tcohen         and what about this one?
18:44 tcohen         "You have set use_zebra_facets but the <zebra_bib_index_mode> is not set to dom. Falling back to legacy facets calculation."
19:09 tcohen         @later tell rangi I need a rel_3_18_candidate tag
19:09 huginn         tcohen: The operation succeeded.
19:18 * magnuse      would buy a book on dbix::class if anyone would write it
19:39 jenkins_koha   Yippee, build fixed!
19:39 wahanui        o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:39 jenkins_koha   Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #125: FIXED in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/125/
19:39 jenkins_koha   * David Cook: Bug 9368 [ALTERNATE] - specific behavior of yr and acqdate indexes
19:39 jenkins_koha   * Alex Arnaud: Bug 11926: Render community koha statistic usages
19:39 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9368 normal, P3, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , specific behavior of yr and acqdate indexes
19:39 jenkins_koha   * Paul Poulain: Bug 11926: Package updates
19:39 jenkins_koha   * Julian Maurice: Bug 11926: URI-encode data sent to statistics server
19:39 jenkins_koha   * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11926: Add a cronjob
19:39 jenkins_koha   * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11926: Add new sysprefs and fix encoding issues
19:39 jenkins_koha   * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11926: Add the items table
19:39 jenkins_koha   * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11926: DB changes
19:39 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11926 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , HEA - Render community koha statistic usages
19:39 jenkins_koha   * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 11926: Follow-up - remove SearchEngine pref / fix POD
19:39 jenkins_koha   * Katrin.Fischer.83@web.de: Bug 11926: Follow-up - Fix new cronjob's file permissions
19:39 jenkins_koha   * Owen Leonard: Bug 11926 [Follow-up] HEA - Render community koha statistic usages
19:39 jenkins_koha   * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11926: DBRev 3.17.00.030
19:54 mtompset       @later tell oleonard Check out the secondary patch I put up on bug 12916. It is the missing test files.
19:54 huginn         mtompset: The operation succeeded.
20:14 mjk            i have a weird problem
20:15 mjk            i just restored my koha databases after a system failure and now huge ammounts of items seem to be missing
20:15 wizzyrea       ooh a weird problem!
20:15 wizzyrea       are the items in your data dump?
20:15 mjk            when i run a report from the admin interface they appear to be there
20:15 mjk            but when i do a search, they can't be found
20:16 wizzyrea       do you possibly need to clear the index and reindex?
20:16 wizzyrea       or reindex generally
20:16 mjk            how does that work.
20:16 mjk            i rtied koha-rebuild-zebra already
20:16 mjk            *tried
20:16 wizzyrea       if you installed using packages you can sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -v --full <sitename>
20:16 wizzyrea       with what flags?
20:17 mjk            -f
20:18 wizzyrea       maybe you need a koha-start-zebra <sitename>
20:18 wizzyrea       ps ax | grep zebra would tell you if it's running
20:19 mjk            that did it
20:19 mjk            thanks
20:19 wizzyrea       \o/
20:19 mjk            you saved the nesfa librarty ;)
20:19 wizzyrea       highfive
20:19 wahanui        o/* HIGHFIVE *o
20:19 mjk            *librrary
20:19 mjk            *library
20:19 wizzyrea       https://31.media.tumblr.com/41c45df980930d7992cc259aaa3ed5ff/tumblr_ndntowUzl91r7bwg3o4_250.gif
20:20 wizzyrea       ^ mrw
20:20 wizzyrea       fixed it is <reply> https://31.media.tumblr.com/41c45df980930d7992cc259aaa3ed5ff/tumblr_ndntowUzl91r7bwg3o4_250.gif
20:20 wizzyrea       fixed it!
20:20 wahanui        https://31.media.tumblr.com/41c45df980930d7992cc259aaa3ed5ff/tumblr_ndntowUzl91r7bwg3o4_250.gif
20:20 wizzyrea       woot.
20:25 rangi          morning
20:27 rangi          @later tell tcohen done
20:27 huginn         rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:33 mtompset       wizzyrea: So, you saw that episode of Dr. Who?
21:02 jcamins        Bah, I hate airplanes.
21:03 jcamins        ... thought you ought to know.
21:03 jcamins        And airports.
21:03 wahanui        jcamins: That doesn't look right. Try 'airport code for CITY' or 'airport name for CODE' instead.
21:04 jcamins        airport name for mco
21:04 wahanui        jcamins: KMCO is Orlando International Airport, Orlando, Florida USA
21:04 wizzyrea       :)
21:04 jcamins        Huh. What a peculiar piece of functionality.
21:04 magnuse        lol!
21:04 magnuse        airport name for boo
21:04 wahanui        magnuse: I can't find an airport for KBOO.
21:04 magnuse        huh?
21:05 talljoy        ha
21:05 talljoy        airport name for dfw
21:05 wahanui        talljoy: KDFW is Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport, Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas USA
21:05 talljoy        Yeehaw
21:05 talljoy        jcamins that is an obscure bit of functionality
21:06 magnuse        wassup with the extra k?
21:06 jcamins        magnuse: country code?
21:06 talljoy        nope
21:06 magnuse        k as in ameriKa?
21:07 talljoy        all flights entering the US have airport codes with a 'K' in front of  the original three-letter code (Key West then gets to be called KEYW).
21:07 talljoy        Read more:  http://www.businessinsider.com/airport-codes-explained-2012-10#ixzz3GuUrUHjr
21:07 eythian        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Standards_Day <-- the US must celebrate it on the metric day
21:07 talljoy        so the bot is 'merica centric
21:08 magnuse        ew... ;-)
21:08 eythian        airport name for NZWN
21:08 wahanui        eythian: NZWN is Wellington International Airport, Wellington, Wellington New Zealand
21:09 eythian        You just need the ICAO code
21:09 eythian        (as opposed to IATA
21:09 eythian        )
21:09 eythian        airport name for ENBO
21:09 wahanui        eythian: ENBO is Bodø Lufthavn, Bodø, Nordland Norge (Norway)
21:10 talljoy        perfect!
21:10 wahanui        i think perfect is the enemy of good
21:10 magnuse        ah...
21:10 talljoy        eythian++
21:10 talljoy        perfect-o
21:10 talljoy        take that wahanui
21:10 akafred        These codes are for pilots, not passengers...
21:11 eythian        (though, everywhere I've been tends to use the IATA code for passengers)
21:11 eythian        yeah, that
21:11 wahanui        well, yeah, that is cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha...
21:11 magnuse        yeah, let's enhance the opac with airport codes!
21:11 magnuse        we could have "airport code of the day", perhaps?
21:12 eythian        heh
21:12 magnuse        guess the "quote of the day" feature could be used for that
21:12 magnuse        rangi++
21:12 cait           hi #koha
21:12 cait           oh, what did he do? :)
21:13 magnuse        cait++ in advance for qa'ing bug 11401
21:13 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Signed Off , Add support for Norwegian national library card
21:13 eythian        I'm not really a fan of the current set of quotes, so replacing with airport codes would be fine :)
21:13 akafred        IATA airport codes are fun. They get reused ... Airline codes (the two letter ones) are even more fun ... they are not unique.
21:13 rangi          we should use the ones the students in argentina did
21:13 cait           airline for what?
21:13 magnuse        is there a current set of quotes?
21:13 magnuse        cait: better check the logs
21:13 cait           probably
21:13 cait           :)
21:13 eythian        magnuse: there is, they're all from American presidents or something.
21:13 rangi          http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2014/10/09/kohacon14-day-3-school-bibliotecology/
21:14 eythian        magnuse: hey, did you get a chance to check out those packages are all fine?
21:14 magnuse        we could build out the quote of the day feature so it displays daily ICAO codes to pilots and IATA to everyone else?
21:14 jcamins        magnuse: I think they're the top N most famous quotes from presidential speeches.
21:14 * magnuse      missed that
21:15 magnuse        probably in the en sample data or something?
21:15 eythian        well, it's an optional thing you can load at install time
21:15 eythian        regional author quotes is a brilliant idea
21:15 magnuse        eythian: not conciously... things worked when i installed those packages, but i did not conciously think about them working at them time
21:16 eythian        magnuse: well, I'll count that as working :)
21:16 magnuse        i'll give them another spin in the kohadevbox just to be sure
21:16 eythian        cool ta
21:16 magnuse        at least i didn't see them not working :-)
21:17 magnuse        there, added it to my todo-list
21:17 eythian        cheers
21:18 eythian        if you're running Debian unstable, it'll be in the repo now too.
21:18 eythian        testing in about a week (there's a 10-day migration period)
21:19 eythian        Hmm, I should do a packaging binge today, only a few days for the jessie freeze deadline.
21:19 rangi          ah ha!
21:19 rangi          http://amigofoods.co.nz/Productos-Argentina
21:20 magnuse        eythian++
21:22 rangi          bgkriegel: http://amigofoods.co.nz/YerbaMate  <-- are any of these good ?
21:22 cait           are you going to subscribe to yerba delivery?
21:22 rangi          i remember rosamonte
21:23 rangi          wtf
21:23 rangi          http://amigofoods.co.nz/index.php?route=product/category&path=47
21:23 cait           @wunder Konstanz
21:23 huginn         cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.3°C (11:20 PM CEST on October 22, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
21:23 cait           rangi: you don't like karamalz?
21:24 rangi          just wondering why there is a germany section :)
21:24 * magnuse      is happy to have found REESE'S Peanut Butter Cups at a local shop and REESE'S NUTRAGEOUS Candy Bar at a local gas station
21:24 cait           magnuse: ben and jerry's peanut butter cup ice cream... is all i am going ot say
21:25 magnuse        the same local store sells ben and jerry's - i'll have to investigate
21:25 magnuse        rangi: because germany is a country in south america?
21:25 rangi          apparently so :)
21:26 eythian        they're both places far away, so it seems reasonable
21:27 magnuse        tee hee
21:28 cait           heh
21:28 cait           cute,the website uses the article icon we use
21:31 * magnuse      desperately needs some sleep - have fun, #koha!
21:32 eythian        bye
21:33 cait           bye magnuse
21:33 jcamins        I should've been boarding the plane fifteen minutes ago. Grr.
21:34 jcamins        (45 minute delay... already)
21:34 jcamins        Boarding will be at 6:10... unless it's not (yes, that was their official announcement: "we will be boarding at 6:10, unless we board at a different time")
21:36 cait           where are you going?
21:36 eythian        can't accuse them of lying.
21:36 eythian        unless they cancel it, I guess.
21:42 rangi          oh i put totals at the bottom of the signoffs and passed qa etc on the dashboard now
21:43 jcamins        On the plus side, they said they're not going to take away my carry-on.
21:43 jcamins        cait: home.
21:43 cait           oh
21:43 cait           and where have you been? :)
21:43 jcamins        Orlando.
21:43 jcamins        No DisneyWorld, though.
21:44 cait           rangi:  cool!
21:44 cait           jcamins: you are not making this easy for me hm? :)
21:45 * cait         pretends to no longer be curious :)
21:45 jcamins        cait: I'm at the conference in Orlando.
21:46 jcamins        Well, now I'm in the airport.
21:46 jcamins        But that's where I was.
21:46 jcamins        The one that I thought was last week, but wasn't.
21:47 rambutan       Well, Orlando is not so far away that you couldn't walk home if you had to, right? Good pair of walking shoes and some Burger King?
21:47 jcamins        lol
21:48 jcamins        Let's see what Google Maps says.
21:50 jcamins        360 hours.
21:50 jcamins        No problem.
21:51 jcamins        15 days.
21:51 jcamins        Of continuous walking.
21:51 eythian        easy
21:51 rambutan       ltr all
21:54 eythian        oh hey, I just regenerated the dependencies, and a whole pile have gone. That's good!
22:00 * wizzyrea     rejects the idea that burger king counts as food.
22:10 jcamins        And it's apparently *pouring* in New York.
22:10 jcamins        Wish I had a raincoat or an umbrella.
22:12 jcamins        Bah, humbug.
22:13 jcamins        I hope we don't sit in the plane for hours now that we're boarding.
22:14 eythian        OK, third time lucky I'll get master building I hope.
22:28 eythian        and, new master packages uploaded.