Time  Nick       Message
20:35 magnuse    have fun rangi!
20:31 rangi      thanks
20:30 jcamins    rangi: safe travels.
20:29 rangi      but im sorta on my way at least
20:29 rangi      well my bag is tagged all the way through, i wont see it again until argentina, however I have to check in again in auckland .. weird system
20:03 tcohen     http://snag.gy/zIqfu.jpg
19:57 jcamins    # the conference is set up for remote presentations
19:57 jcamins    bgkriegel++
19:57 jcamins    tcohen++
19:25 wahanui    yes, jcamins?
19:25 jcamins    wahanui
19:25 wahanui    rumour has it i am a bot
19:25 jcamins    wahanui: wahanui?
19:25 wahanui    i am right sometimes
19:25 jcamins    wahanui: wahanui?
19:21 huginn     wnickc: The current temperature in Quechee Lakes Sec 1, Quechee, Vermont is 19.8°C (3:21 PM EDT on October 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
19:21 wnickc     @wunder 05059
19:19 wnickc     they also have an IRC channel #bws-partners
19:18 wnickc     had to check my bookmark
19:18 wnickc     you got it right
19:18 jcamins    wnickc: you're a ByWater Partner, right? Did I get the ticketing system URL right or has it moved?
19:18 jcamins    learning: I can't help you, sorry. Since you're working with ByWater, they should know what you're trying to do and be able to help. I believe their ticketing system is at ticket.bywatersolutions.com.
19:16 huginn     learning: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
19:16 learning   @jcamins:  i just got one error "Bad MARC record 17549: utf8 "\xE2" does not map to Unicode at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/Encode.pm line 174, <GEN13> line 17550." from koha company, i just want to find out how to fixt it
19:16 jcamins    However, since you're paying ByWater, I'm going to suggest that your best bet is going to be submitting a ticket with them.
19:15 jcamins    You have told me an error message, but I don't know what the error message is from, or why you want a file in the first place.
19:15 jcamins    learning: I still don't know what you want to do.
19:14 learning   ok  let me repeat my question:  i am a php programmer, have no idea about koha or perl,  so i just exported  database sql from phpmyadmin,  and gave it to bywater koha company,  after that,  they gave me one file back, which said "Bad MARC record 17549: utf8 "\xE2" does not map to Unicode at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/Encode.pm line 174, <GEN13> line 17550."  i do not know how to fix it !
19:14 wahanui    jcamins: wahanui =is= a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.|a little bit creepy.|right sometimes|a strange duck|a bot.
19:14 jcamins    wahanui: literal wahanui
19:14 jcamins    That didn't do what I expected.
19:14 jcamins    Huh.
19:14 wnickc     lol
19:14 wahanui    yes, jcamins?
19:14 jcamins    wahanui?
19:14 wahanui    jcamins?
19:14 jcamins    wahanui?
19:14 wahanui    yes, jcamins?
19:14 jcamins    wahanui?
19:14 wahanui    okay, jcamins.
19:14 jcamins    wahanui is also a bot.
19:14 wahanui    jcamins?
19:14 jcamins    wahanui?
19:12 huginn     jcamins: The current temperature in Flatiron, New York, New York is 19.1°C (3:10 PM EDT on October 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
19:12 jcamins    @wunder 10001
19:12 huginn     jcamins: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
19:12 jcamins    huginn is a bot.
19:12 huginn     learning: I suck
19:12 learning   huginn:  hi,  i am a php programmer,  and i just export  database sql and gave it to bywater koha company,  after then the give me one file back
19:12 wahanui    "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?"
19:12 jcamins    first question?
19:12 jcamins    Not that I can guarantee that I'm going to be able to help you, but I certainly can't help without knowing the problem.
19:11 jcamins    learning: in order to do that you would have to tell me exactly what the issue is.
19:11 huginn     learning: downloading the Perl source
19:11 learning   @jcamins:  hum...  i still feel confused now, i am really new about koha, so could you tell me what i should do now as my first step to fix this issue please ?
19:09 jcamins    But it has a GUI and so forth so I'm sure you can probably figure it out.
19:09 jcamins    learning: I don't use it.
19:09 huginn     learning: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
19:09 learning   @jcamins:  how to use MARCedit please ? i do not know that at all, please help
19:08 jcamins    learning: it's record 17549.
19:08 jcamins    Everyone I know who uses it says it's pretty easy.
19:08 jcamins    learning: MARCedit is a good choice if you're not comfortable with Perl.
19:07 jcamins    wnickc: yeah, if you get it out of Koha and flip the UTF-8 thingy in the leader then save it as UTF-8.
19:07 learning   jcamins:  how to transfer Unicode to MARC-8 ?
19:06 wnickc     thanks jcamins, I knew it was somehting with encoding, explains now why I could never get mine to work
19:06 learning   wnickc & jcamins:   yes,  but my problem is i do not know find out that record in my database
19:05 jcamins    learning: that error indicates that you have marked a record as Unicode when it is actually MARC-8 or vice versa. I cannot recall which.
19:03 wnickc     Using MARCedit or some such, should be able to jump there since you have the record number
19:03 wnickc     Go into the record, look for odd/malformed characters and replace/fix them
19:02 learning   wnickc:  so how do you deal with it please ?
19:02 wnickc     I had similar erros when trying to pimport a Charlotte Brontë record
19:00 wnickc     I think that might be when you have a character that Koha doesn't know how to deal with
18:59 learning   who knows the meaning of "Bad MARC record 17549: utf8 "\xE2" does not map to Unicode at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/Encode.pm line 174, <GEN13> line 17550." is ?  i got one file back from bywater koha
18:56 learning   hi everyone, who knows the meaning of "Bad MARC record 17549: utf8 "\xE2" does not map to Unicode at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/Encode.pm line 174, <GEN13> line 17550." is ?  i got one file back from bywater koha
18:36 wnickc     hi #koha
16:39 gaetan_B   bye
15:40 barton     oleonard++
15:39 nengard    all 6 are controlled by the same sys pref
15:39 nengard    barton no syspref ...
15:38 oleonard   Looks like C4::Form::MessagingPreferences.pm is where the template gets the data from
15:37 barton     oleonard -- nope, not yet. that's my next step... I was hoping someone would have insight about a syspref or bit of logic that I wasn't aware of.
15:26 oleonard   barton: Have you tracked back through the code to see where the options are generated?
15:18 nengard    Totally had me confused too!!!
15:17 barton     Hey, I just ran into an issue that's got me a bit mystified -- one of our partners isn't seeing 'Advanced notice' in the list of available messages in the message preferences on moremember.pl. Intranetuserjs is empty ... what else would cause this?
15:10 * barton   hands oleonard boxes of marvy and pentel pens.
15:09 nengard    oleonard++
15:06 reiveune   bye
15:04 * oleonard gets his jars of glitter
15:04 nengard    make it gorgeous
15:04 nengard    work your magic oleonard
15:04 nengard    :)
15:04 oleonard   Yeah that's my instinct as well
15:03 nengard    we could also merge the links at the end in to a button like on reports
15:03 nengard    i usually use the one at the top
15:03 nengard    I say remove them then
15:03 * oleonard still isn't a fan of the filters
15:03 nengard    well that's good too
15:03 nengard    oh ...
15:02 nengard    then I say it's more important to fit all data on the screen than have the mini filters
15:02 oleonard   Actually I'm backtracking now... The width is not set by DataTables. Some added CSS might fix it.
15:02 oleonard   Yes
15:01 nengard    the search at the top searches all those fields right?
15:01 nengard    checking now
14:56 oleonard   I don't deal with lots and lots of data in any Koha table which uses those filters, so I have no personal experience
14:55 oleonard   I'm curious, though, whether you think those footer search fields are useful to librarians
14:55 oleonard   I'm not sure there is a mechanism to make it fluid as long as the filter is enabled
14:54 oleonard   The width problem is caused by the search fields in the table footer
14:54 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11271 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , serials table off the screen on low resolutions
14:54 oleonard   I was just looking at Bug 11271 again since you bumped it
14:54 nengard    yes
14:53 oleonard   nengard around?
14:39 Gigio85    Thanks
14:39 Gigio85    Can I ask if someone know why  the manual says that the "IndependentBranches" option "volud be set before going live and that it NOT be changed"?
14:37 Gigio85    Hi all
14:26 ashimema   all very odd
14:26 ashimema   then 411/2 hours later, they start opening the airport again, and if your lucky they let you through the tiny customs booth, steal all your duty free from the first leg, and let you into departures.
14:26 ashimema   basically our connection was overnight... so we were one of th elast flights to land at night.. then the airport closes everything around you and locks you between passport control to go into spain, a one man customs desk (which is locked and closed) to take you into departures, and the door to the runway where you just got off your flight..
14:24 ashimema   but I tihnk it was the same for everyone on my flight.
14:24 ashimema   perhaps.
14:24 cait       maybe that made you suspicious
14:24 ashimema   was flying back from peru..
14:24 ashimema   it was..
14:24 cait       i got my passport checked, but not the luggage and am at my gate
14:23 cait       that sounds weird
14:23 ashimema   I tend to try not to fly through madrid now if i can help it ;)
14:23 cait       no passport controls from swtzerland to spain :)
14:23 ashimema   then they stole everyones duty free before letting you into departures..
14:23 cait       i passed the passport control, so i am probably in the international terminal now
14:23 cait       not sure for me
14:23 cait       oh
14:22 ashimema   was painful
14:22 ashimema   got stuck between exiting a plain and entering the lounge :(
14:22 wahanui    okay, cait.
14:22 cait       which is also irritating in its own way
14:22 oleonard   Toronto_airport_free_wifi++
14:22 cait       hm i don't dislike it yet... but zürich is a lot fancier
14:22 ashimema   had a 5 hour stop there once.. but wasn't even aloud into the main airport..
14:22 ashimema   I disliked madrid airport allot..
14:22 cait       but i will search for food an see, maybe i can find a cafe
14:21 cait       yep
14:21 oleonard   Boo
14:21 cait       only here for another few mins probably, only 15 mins of free wifi at this airport :(
14:21 cait       but... in 3 hours
14:21 cait       oleonard: in madrid now, leaving from here to buenos aires
14:21 cait       so far so good
14:21 cait       and without asking
14:21 cait       first time ever
14:21 cait       i even got an exit row
14:21 oleonard   Hi cait, where are you?
14:21 cait       yep :)
14:20 ashimema   first flight done then cait
14:20 ashimema   hello
14:20 cait       15 minutes of free internet... and onone here to talk to? :)
14:20 * cait     waves
14:17 fridolin   see u
13:50 khall      oleonard: thanks!
13:44 oleonard   I'll take a look khall. Can't remember.
13:40 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10632 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Enable datatables for courses and course details in the OPAC
13:40 khall      oleonard: what do I need to do for bug 10632>
13:30 magnuse    lol
13:26 oleonard   No one ever complains that their IT department has standardized on Chrome 2.0 and won't let anyone upgrade
13:23 oleonard   ...which is about the same age as IE8
13:23 * oleonard wonders if there are people out there who are required to use Firefox 3.5
13:13 Oak        later.
13:12 Oak        hello oleonard
13:12 Oak        magnuse
12:47 magnuse    ashimema: yup
12:22 ashimema   magnuse: is it the lack of cait that worries you ;)
12:22 ashimema   :)
12:18 magnuse    just checking...
12:17 huginn     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
12:17 magnuse    bug 11944
12:15 * oleonard makes noises
12:07 magnuse    nah, let's make some noise!
12:04 * oleonard suspects things are going to be quiet around here for a while
12:02 tcohen     hi oleonard
12:01 oleonard   Hi #koha
11:42 Oak        cool
11:42 ashimema   so mail was dissapeareing into hole.
11:42 ashimema   seems my hostnames and exims final destination didn't match..
11:42 ashimema   thanks though Oak..
11:41 ashimema   yeah.. I've got to the bottom of it now..
11:40 Oak        ashimema: this https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/01/msg02528.html and this http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=282559 suggest that it will get created when first mail arrives. they are quite old though.
11:35 Oak        let me check.
11:35 Oak        yes ashimema I'm using it.
11:15 khall      mornin!
11:15 * magnuse  waves at khall
11:00 ashimema   wondering if that's normal.. or there's somthing wrong in the way i'm doing things.
10:59 ashimema   I'm finding that adduser never seems to create a /var/mail/username file so I always have to manually add one to get mail working..
10:59 ashimema   anyone here use debian wheezy..
10:53 huginn     ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 17.9°C (11:52 AM BST on October 03, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
10:53 ashimema   @wunder stevenage, uk
09:58 huginn     cait: The current temperature in Madrid - Las Mercedes, Madrid, Spain is 21.1°C (11:45 AM CEST on October 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
09:58 cait       @wunder madrid, spain
09:57 huginn     cait: Error: No such location could be found.
09:57 cait       @wunder madrid
09:39 mtj        heh... yes good point
09:36 cait       hope not too exciting
09:36 cait       first flight already delayed...
09:35 cait       :)
09:33 mtj        quite the adventure
09:33 mtj        im very excited for you :p
09:32 cait       thx mtj
09:32 mtj        happy flying cait! :)
09:32 mtj        hey peeps
09:19 cait       yep
09:19 magnuse    cait: until your plane leaves?
09:14 cait       45 minutes... :)
09:12 magnuse    wb cait
09:10 cait       back from the laptop... :)
08:50 ashimema   yeah.. that sounds like a great plan.
08:43 magnuse    so that we can have a common "backbone", but not force people to abandon their own best practices
08:43 magnuse    i'm also thinking it should be possible for users to basically inject their own bash script at the end
08:42 magnuse    ashimema: sure
08:42 ashimema   If I can work out my vim debug setup would that be a useful patch magnuse?
08:40 cait-m__   heh
08:38 magnuse    better torrent some movies while you can then ;-)
08:35 cait-m__   only some time is free
08:35 cait-m__   guess i will get kicked of the wifi soon
08:23 cait-m__   :)
08:22 magnuse    it's meant to be a general tool that others outside opl can use too
08:17 ashimema   cool.. Will do.
08:17 ashimema   no worries.. I bet you tidied it up allot ;)
08:17 magnuse    and patches are welcome
08:17 magnuse    ashimema: steal away!
08:17 * magnuse  should remember to give credit for that
08:17 magnuse    ashimema: i based it on your bash script
08:17 ashimema   I may be stealing a copy of that ;)
08:16 ashimema   wocked..
08:16 magnuse    well, it's still a work in progress, but kind of usable
08:16 magnuse    yup
08:16 ashimema   you did the debbox stuff you were talking about then?
08:16 wahanui    magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
08:16 ashimema   ooh.. magnuse..
08:16 magnuse    yay!
08:11 cait-m__   all chocolate is safe
08:10 cait-m__   and the suitcaae ended up at exactly 23 kg
08:09 rangi      :)
08:07 cait-m__   i was early :) got all boarding passes but dont know the gate yet
08:06 cait-m__   hmm 2 hours
08:01 rangi      how long til you take off?
08:01 cait-m__   zurich airport
07:57 magnuse    petter++ for doing the very first signoff using our vagrant-based https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox
07:15 wahanui    salut, gaetan_B
07:15 gaetan_B   hello
07:10 fridolin   bonjour magnuse
07:10 sophie_m   hello #koha
07:10 sophie_m   hi magnuse
07:10 magnuse    bonjour fridolin et sophie_m
07:06 fridolin   hie community
07:05 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 14.0°C (4:00 AM ART on October 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Falling).
07:05 magnuse    @wunder cordoba, argentina
07:05 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 15.3°C (8:57 AM CEST on October 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
07:05 magnuse    @wunder marseille
07:05 huginn     magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
07:04 magnuse    @wunder boo
06:57 wahanui    kia ora, alex_a_
06:57 alex_a_    bonjour
06:51 ashimema   Should be good..
06:51 ashimema   :)
06:50 magnuse    i'm scheming to go there too
06:50 magnuse    woohoo!
06:45 ashimema   and bring along at least one other employee
06:45 ashimema   however.. I'm scheming to go to hackfest..
06:44 ashimema   we've got so much on at the minute we didn't feel we could afford to lose someone for the week..
06:44 ashimema   not this time unfortunately..
06:36 reiveune   hi magnuse \o_
06:35 magnuse    bonjour reiveune
06:35 reiveune   hello
06:25 magnuse    ashimema: anyone from ptfse going?
06:12 * ashimema is in the same boat
06:12 * magnuse  tries not to be too envious
05:59 cait-m__   :)
05:59 * magnuse  waves at cait-m__ at the trains tation
05:59 * magnuse  waves
05:55 cait-m__   hi
05:53 ashimema   hello
05:51 cait-m__   noone here?
05:47 cait-m__   train station :)
05:47 * cait-m__ waves
05:16 cait       I will :)
05:15 ashimema   keep me informed :)
05:15 ashimema   good luck cait.
05:15 cait       wish me luck? :)
05:07 * cait     hopes everything will work out as planned
04:43 magnuse    wizzyrea: i don't think going east would make a lot of sense for cait ;-)
04:41 cait       thx!
04:41 magnuse    safe travels cait
04:32 cait       thx Oak :)
04:18 Oak        good luck everyone. have a great kohacon.
04:17 Oak        good luck cait !
04:17 cait       wizzyrea: do you still need records with rtl?
04:10 wizzyrea   west :)
04:09 cait       no idea if that is east or west :)
04:09 cait       i go via madrid and buenos aries
04:09 wizzyrea   which way do you go, east or west?
04:08 wizzyrea   long flights lol :)
04:08 cait       i hope it means i might be able to sleep on hte plane later
04:07 ashimema   you have a good reason not to sleep... kohacon!
04:07 ashimema   so now trying to wrap my head around angularjs services.
04:07 cait       me neither
04:07 cait       oh
04:07 ashimema   couldn't sleep
04:07 ashimema   today I have..
04:06 cait       wow you get up early
04:06 ashimema   mornin'
04:06 cait       nd worried :)
04:06 cait       super excited
04:05 cait       yep
04:01 wizzyrea   mornin. fly day?
03:59 cait       morning
03:36 Oak        hello wizzyrea :)
03:35 wizzyrea   hi oak
03:34 Oak        kia ora #koha
03:11 wizzyrea   doh
03:11 wizzyrea   oo
02:41 tcohen     wizzyrea: i might have something
01:50 rangi      hmm cait does im pretty sure
01:22 wizzyrea   or a dataset of same for testing?
01:21 wizzyrea   does anyone have a catalogue that has both RtoL records and english in the same catalogue?
00:21 rangi      :)
00:14 * tcohen   hides
00:14 tcohen     i recall
00:14 tcohen     ah, yes
00:14 rangi      unless you break stuff in koha
00:14 rangi      heh
00:13 tcohen     she's much quiet than the hurricane that hit new orleans a couple years ago
00:12 tcohen     its a nickname I've heard Paul use for cait
00:04 rangi      hehe i was just noticing the extra a :)