Time Nick Message 02:28 * eythian notes that the "Library saved" message when you add a library to Koha is themed like an error, i.e. in a red box. 05:04 * Oak waves 05:07 Oak in LDR 000 what is the difference between values 45e0 and 4500? 05:17 Oak wait 05:30 magnuse Oak 05:36 Oak magnuse 05:36 Oak \o/ 05:47 magnuse :-) 05:47 * magnuse wonders who is giving the talk on "Extending Koha using linked data" at kohacon 05:50 Oak ah. someone better record that talk in good audio. and preferably in 720 video as well. steady hand. 05:52 * Oak wonders who will record and upload the talk on "Extending Koha using linked data" at kohacon for the poor souls who cannot be there. 05:57 Oak magnuse, if one needs to test an sql report on Koha 3.4, how can that be done? someone called me and says this report http://goo.gl/fb8KxL does not work on his 3.4. 06:01 magnuse hm, if you have a dev install, you can check out the 3.4.x branch, empty the database and then run through the web installer, to get a working 3.4. or tell them to upgrade 06:03 Oak hmm. 06:04 Oak and i have not checked all links but seems like tars links here are broken http://koha-community.org/category/3-4/ 06:12 ashimema morning koha 06:18 Oak morning ashimema ! 06:36 ashimema Right.. I 'think' all my utf8 testing is now done.. damn that was a long qa cycle.. 06:36 ashimema @later tell tcohen did the tests for utf8 stuff ever get past go? 06:36 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 06:36 Oak ashimema++ 06:38 reiveune hello 06:38 wahanui bonjour, reiveune 06:41 magnuse ashimema++ 06:41 magnuse Joubu++ 06:41 ashimema magnuse.. what are your thoughts on utf8 vs utf8_mb4 for mysql? 06:41 magnuse dunno 06:41 ashimema that's the very last it I wanted comment on from Joubu and others.. 06:42 ashimema haha.. no worries.. it's pretty fringe information 06:42 magnuse yeah, i don't know mysql well enough i guess 06:42 ashimema https://mathiasbynens.be/notes/mysql-utf8mb4 - for background to the question ;) 06:43 magnuse but if you think it is a good idea and have been using it in production i would vote for it, i think :-) 06:43 ashimema Yeah.. all our sites for 3 years have been going in with it ;) 06:43 ashimema So I can vouch that it's stable.. 06:44 magnuse but only available from MySQL 5.5.3? 06:44 ashimema and that probably also adds my vote for it being worthwhile.. we're not really using any characters (not knowingly at least) that require it.. but my thoughts are that you never know what crazy character a library might input into a marc record ;) 06:44 magnuse yup 06:45 magnuse @get quote 123 06:45 ashimema fiar point.. yeah.. only available from 5.5.3 06:45 huginn magnuse: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, Lart, Quote, and ReleaseDay plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get". 06:45 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 06:45 magnuse @quote 123 06:45 wahanui @quote get 123 06:45 huginn magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 06:45 huginn wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 06:45 wahanui ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... 06:45 * ashimema goes off to check what mysql version currently ships with squeeze 06:49 ashimema anyone out there got a squeeze server they could run 'apt-cache policy mysql-server' on for me, pretty please? 06:49 ashimema (and could varify they don't have and 'extra' repositories enabled to get a more up to date mysql than the norm? 06:52 Oak i'll run it ashimema. just let me check if 'extra' is enabled or not. 06:52 ashimema cheers Oak 06:53 alex_a bonjour 06:54 pastebot "Oak" at 192.168.0.191 pasted "output of apt-cache policy mysql-server" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/228 06:55 ashimema looks like your on wheezy anyway Oak ;) 06:55 ashimema but thanks regardless 06:55 Oak bonjour monsieur alex_a 06:55 Oak oh right 06:55 Oak you said squeeze :| 06:56 ashimema we still support squeeze as a community.. So I best not push for utf8_mb4 if squeeze doesn't ship with a current enough version of mysql ;) 06:56 ashimema I'll see if I can dig out on of our last remaining squeeze's 06:57 Oak got it. 06:58 Oak will this help: 06:58 Oak https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/mysql-server 06:58 Oak i can check the changelogs of the last squeeze update... 06:59 alex_a hello Oak 07:02 ashimema Yeah, looks like your right.. 07:02 ashimema 'tis an ancient mysql still in squeeze :( 07:02 Joubu hello 07:03 Oak it's 5.1.73-1 07:03 Oak in 6.0.10 which was released July 19th, 2014 07:03 ashimema yup.. 07:04 ashimema we need 5.5.3 to get mb4 support.. 07:04 ashimema that's a four year old release.. 07:04 ashimema yet still not in squeeze by the looks :( 07:04 ashimema oh well 07:04 ashimema it was a 'nice to have' rather than a full on requirement 07:30 gaetan_B hello 07:33 magnuse ashimema: and there is no way to set it conditionally? or have older versions silently ignore it? 07:34 ashimema possibly.. but not as a simple patch like we have already.. 07:34 ashimema means pushing more work Joubu's way.. I didn't want to be that mean ;) for a 'nice to have' 07:36 magnuse ok 07:38 magnuse but that means bug 11944 can be "passed qa"? 07:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 07:39 magnuse oh, i forgot dpavlin++ earlier! 07:39 ashimema pretty much.. 07:39 ashimema I'm just sorting a failing email system on another server.. then I'll be adding my mark and passing qa on it 07:41 Joubu ashimema: I prefer you don't upload patches 07:41 Joubu ashimema: I can add you SO line on the branch 07:41 ashimema ok.. will just scribble in comments and add passed status then ;) 07:42 Joubu your* 07:42 ashimema :) 07:42 Joubu ashimema: thanks. I will ask Tomas to upload them on the bug report when he will push them in master 07:42 Oak Joubu++ 07:43 Oak dpavlin++ 07:43 ashimema :) 07:43 ashimema Joubu++ 07:43 Joubu Paola++ & Zeno++ ;) 07:43 Joubu and ashimema++ 08:10 magnuse bonjour akafred paul_p 08:10 magnuse yeah Paola++ Zeno++ 08:11 Joubu welcome akafred :) 08:15 magnuse nice intro on koha-devel :-) 08:15 magnuse and that message got through, but there might still be a backlog somewhere? 09:04 rangi akafred: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2013-July/036714.html 09:11 magnuse yay 10:14 ashimema nice 10:14 ashimema rangi.. just passed your reply-to patch 10:14 ashimema patches 10:15 ashimema that should make cait happy too :) 10:15 magnuse yay 10:15 magnuse ashimema++ 10:16 ashimema not bad going this morning.. one massive qa and one smaller one.. 10:16 ashimema nice to cross those off the list :) 10:16 magnuse awesome! 10:16 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, magnuse 10:16 magnuse with pleasure 10:17 magnuse whoa 210 bugs need signoff?!? 10:17 ashimema and with any luck.. shibboleth with get caits stamp of approval tomorrow 10:18 ashimema yeah.. there's a fair bunch in the queue 10:18 ashimema We're holding some sandbox training sessions over the coming weeks here.. hopefully that'll help a little.. 10:20 magnuse ashimema: who are you training? 10:20 ashimema to start with, a Uni and a Public library.. 10:20 magnuse cool! 10:20 ashimema trying to introduce it to our customers slowly.. get some liking it.. then they can sell the sandboxes to the rest of them for us ;) 10:21 magnuse good plan! 10:23 Joubu I have a DBIC problem, see my patch submitted on bug 12627 comment 14. 10:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12627 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Passed QA , SQLHelper replacement - C4::Suggestions 10:23 Joubu I am not sure how we can manage this problem better. 10:23 Joubu But we should, because this method is very ugly. 10:24 Joubu undef vs null vs 0 vs '' 11:40 Joubu http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/adding-a-model-abstraction-td3067604.html 11:40 Joubu whaou, Oct 2008... 11:44 magnuse Joubu: time flies when you're having fun ;-) 11:46 * Joubu is searching for the fun 11:50 magnuse awww... 12:06 * oleonard concludes from akafred's description of his name being too hard to pronounce that he is in fact a Vulcan. 12:31 akafred @oleonard That's right, t'hy'la :-) 12:31 huginn akafred: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 12:32 oleonard Hi akafred. Don't mind huginn, he's just complaining because of the @ in your message 12:35 * akafred acknowledges that twitter has ruined his two decades old knowledge of how to address people on irc ... 12:38 akafred rangi: We have drawn some inspiration from the jbfink docker-approach :-9 13:06 oleonard We should remove the hold limit option from the Circulation and Fine rules matrix since it doesn't work. 13:25 schnydszch Hi! anybody here experienced news not showing in their Koha ILS' OPAC? we're using 3.16.3 13:25 oleonard Did it happen just after an upgrade schnydszch? 13:25 schnydszch yeah I upgraded 13:26 schnydszch from 3.16.2 to 3.16.3 13:26 schnydszch debian package 13:27 schnydszch but I got the problem in one of my koha instance which was running 3.16.2, I upgraded it, hoping that it will be resolved 13:27 schnydszch ..since newer version is 3.16.3 13:27 oleonard Just today schnydszch? It is the last day of the month (in my time zone anyway): Bug 12507 13:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12507 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , News does not always display in staff or OPAC 13:28 schnydszch yeah just today.. and yes it's the last day of the month here too 13:29 schnydszch okay got it.. thanks! I'll see it tomorrow :) thanks! 13:33 oleonard By the way schnydszch, you emails to the Koha list always end up in my spam folder (with gmail). Maybe because they're sent through Nabble? 13:33 schnydszch I got alerted that some staff could have edited or remove customizations in the OPAC. sigh of relief it's just a bug. Thanks and cheers! 13:34 oleonard I just thought i'd mention it in case you weren't getting responses 13:36 schnydszch yes oleonard, i'm using nabble 13:36 mm123 hello. I have recently updated Koha to version 3.14.10, did a full reindexing. However, when doing a search i get the following: No results match your search for 'kw,wrdl: 13:36 mm123 any suggestions of what might have gone wrong? 13:36 schnydszch so i should not stick with nabble? any other way? 13:37 oleonard schnydszch: You might consider subscribing to the email list instead. 13:37 oleonard mailing list? 13:37 wahanui well, mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/ 13:38 schnydszch okay i'll do that 13:38 schnydszch thanks! :) 13:39 mm123 when searching in OPAC i get the following: No results match your search for 'kw,wrdl: 13:39 oleonard You're welcome schnydszch 13:45 oleonard Anyone here who can run mm123 through the standard routine of verifying Zebra is working? 13:47 schnydszch mm123 you can try this: http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ installing/upgrading part 13:51 mm123 last night i manually ran a full zebra reindex 13:51 mm123 perl /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v 13:51 mm123 because the librarian reported issues with search 13:51 mm123 the reindexing seemed to have worked 13:52 mm123 but the seach is still not working this morning 13:52 schnydszch try to clear zebra indexes 13:53 mm123 kind of emabrassing, but how do i do that? 13:53 mm123 so sorry 13:53 schnydszch i'm using debian package so i can only relate with debian package installation, how did you install your koha ils? 13:53 schnydszch this worked for me: $ zebraidx -c /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg -g iso2709 -d biblios init $ zebraidx -c /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-authorities.cfg -g iso2709 -d authorities init 13:54 mm123 git 13:56 schnydszch oopps.. i haven't tried git, i always go for debian package installation since it's easier :) but maybe you can try clearing first your zebra index. 13:56 schnydszch then rebuild your zebra index 13:57 oleonard mm123: Is koha-zebra-daemon running? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_git#Setup_Zebra 13:58 mm123 this is set in crontab 13:58 mm123 # ZEBRA INDEX UPDATES with -z option, incremental index updates throughout the $ # for both authorities(REMOVED) and bibs 5 * * * * /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z $ 13:59 oleonard mm123: That refers to the index process, but the Zebra service needs to be running in order for Koha to interface with the index which that cron job builds 14:25 mm123 i tried to clear Zebra by running the following command zebraidx -c /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg drop biblios 14:25 mm123 but then I get [fatal] zebra_begin_trans: cannot open register 14:27 schnydszch hi! have you tried oleonard's suggestion? checking the status of koha zebra daemon 14:31 mm123 zebrasrv appears to be started 14:38 schnydszch hi! googling your error i see this, you can probably start from here: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2010-02-24 cheers! 15:53 oleonard If anyone can do something to get Bug 12892 moving again I would appreciate it 15:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12892 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Holds Waiting: not showing from check out screen 15:53 oleonard khall? 15:53 khall yo 15:53 oleonard Are you waiting for something from someone else in order for Bug 12892 to move forward? 15:54 khall oleonard: yeah, it involves the coding guidelines and whether what the patch does should be allowed or not 15:54 khall I'm working on an alternative right now 15:55 oleonard Thanks. I consider the bug a blocker for upgrade for my library so it'd be great to see a fix make it into 3.16.x 15:56 khall understood, I'm making it a priority 15:57 reiveune bye 16:13 Malumfashee Is there any body online 16:14 oleonard Ask you question, Malumfashee, and if someone can answer your question they may 16:18 Malumfashee Please, I am currently an Koha system administrator. My problem with our system is that our institution logo that has been appearing on the OPAC interface of our system which replaced Koha logo before has now disappear. Please how can I restore it back on OPAC so that users can be able to see it. Thanks 16:18 oleonard Malumfashee: Can you share the link to your OPAC? 16:19 gaetan_B bye 16:20 Malumfashee Our OPAC is based on Intranet 16:20 Malumfashee Are you online? 16:22 oleonard What method did you use to change the logo? Did something change before the logo disappeared? An upgrade? 17:17 * magnuse waves 17:20 * magnuse waves at meliss and JesseM 17:21 JesseM Hi magnuse 17:21 meliss Hello magnuse 17:22 meliss I have coffee and ready to tackle the rest of the afternoon. 17:28 magnuse yay 17:29 * magnuse has gone 40 odd years without coffee 17:34 * magnuse waves at nengard 17:37 * nengard waves back 17:37 nengard :) 18:33 oleonard Given C4:Branch.pm:GetBranchesLoop (http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=C4/Branch.pm;h=83d2010ff445ff3250b3aeef55aad1a0317f13a2;hb=HEAD#l155)... 18:33 oleonard Would it be wrong to do this? $branchloop = C4::Branch::GetBranchesLoop(""); 18:34 oleonard ...to pass an empty string as the branch in order to force no branches to be "selected" ? 18:34 oleonard Seems to work, but I'm wondering if it's stylistically incorrect somehow 19:03 magnuse have fun #koha! 19:30 pablito hi all 19:31 pablito anyone here can help me with some errors generated from the koha-common script? 19:32 * cait waves 19:32 pablito hi cait 19:32 cait hi pablito:) 19:32 pablito long time to chat...how are you? :-) 19:32 cait tired? :) 19:33 cait just got home from giving a presentation 19:33 cait long day 19:33 wahanui long day is probably over. Now for the long night. Have a great day, #koha. 19:33 pablito ok hehe 19:33 pablito have a good night 19:33 pablito :-) 19:33 pablito cait: me too 19:33 pablito :-) 19:34 cait here for a bit :) 19:34 pablito I've been getting this error that's a bit frustrating, can you help a little? 19:34 pablito This is the error I get in the log and via email. The file stslib.conf does exist, but the error 19:34 pablito /etc/cron.daily/koha-common: 19:34 pablito tar: etc/apache2/sites-available/stslib.conf: Cannot stat: No such file or directory 19:34 pablito tar: etc/apache2/sites-enabled/stslib.conf: Cannot stat: No such file or directory 19:34 pablito tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors 19:35 cait hm 19:35 cait sorry, not sure what that could be 19:36 cait the instance stslib exiss? 19:36 pablito I have a feeling it has to do with the automatic backup script 19:36 pablito yes, stslib.conf exists 19:36 pablito I wonder if it has to do with not having the "/" before the etc 19:40 cait hm not sure 19:40 cait might be osmething witht he path or permissions... i ma not very good on the sysadmin side of things 22:01 eythian hi 22:01 bag hey there eythian 22:02 eythian howdy bag 23:43 eythian I can't seem to edit sysprefs in 3.16.2. This is weird and concerning 23:44 eythian it behaves like I have ctrl pressed or something, so it just goes all strange. 23:49 eythian ah, it's some customisation we have 23:49 eythian bizarre