Time Nick Message
00:07 tcohen_ eythian: does the ES implementation need a indexing queue?
00:08 tcohen_ or is it synchronous?
00:09 rangi it can work both ways
00:10 eythian tcohen_: I haven't implemented much of anything on that front yet
00:10 eythian but either/or
00:10 eythian I'll probably make it synchronous with a backup queue
00:11 tcohen_ maybe zebraqueue -> index_queue its in place
00:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11577: Update DBIx <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d15cecacedd58abdafa0b0276a3002af7b266090>
00:23 eythian tcohen: yeah, probably something like that
00:23 eythian I'd really like to use a proper queueing system, but it's probably a bit much work to add in.
00:23 tcohen do u plan to merge biblio<->biblioitems in the meantime?
00:24 tcohen :-D
00:24 tcohen or, would it hurt your work if that happened?
00:24 rangi i think merging them is the wrong idea
00:25 rangi because we dont need about 98% of the columns in them
00:26 rangi if we are going to break everything (which merging will do) we should think about actually just making a new table, and getting rid of both of them
00:27 rangi and make whatever it is, not marc specific
00:28 tcohen i agree, we need someone to spend some time designing it
00:28 tcohen have we recovered bz from a backup recently or something like that?
00:28 rangi nope
00:29 rangi lunch bbiab
00:29 tcohen i recall I marked some patches as pushed to master
00:29 tcohen it must be i missed to take the pill
00:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12728: DBRev 3.17.00.025 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=33d7a28afa927ae190f819ffc98b578dcef4f296> / Bug 12728: [QA Follow-up] Add StatisticsFields to sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6da517127aeb4c89c204e3a672831e0069ed4ba> / Bug 12728: Add StatisticsFields to sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d48
01:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12697 - Surplus closing in OPAC advanced search (bootstrap) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9351cde90f4be04c98a5760e203ba7db40061dfb> / Bug 12521 - Change layout a bit of the opac advanced search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=77e8cf024d4da039356db1e7e1c318d2bf4a77c2> / Bug 12882 - Translations: Resolve ambiguity for word "checked" in Z39.50 server admin
01:16 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12609: Add some unit tests for C4::Ratings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2b0454ed43622302aac49b6dae7f3388639269e> / Bug 12609 - Replace use of DBI in C4::Ratings with DBIx::Class <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb78928bef7185ead7156acd1ffc3fb278db2985> / Bug 12890 - Improve title and breadcrumbs when editing saved SQL report <http://git.koha-community.
01:19 tcohen let's rock
01:25 wizzyrea http://iambrony.dget.cc/mlp/gif/tumblr_mgdva0CXnJ1rtzl8mo9_r3_1280.gif
01:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4927 - OPAC advanced search has two call number entries; remove one? <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a414f413c82c71ce6d14aa1f416ec6fdf0300f13>
01:30 wizzyrea http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/2031542/zoidberg-scuttle-o.gif ttyl
02:13 eythian tcohen: done!
03:06 tcohen heh
03:07 tcohen eythian: thanks
03:19 tcohen night #koha
03:19 eythian later
04:50 eythian is there a thing in Koha to by-default search a particular branch only?
04:57 dcook I think we have a customization that does that, so I don't think so?
04:57 dcook Oh wait..
04:57 dcook "SearchMyLibraryFirst"
04:58 dcook Which I've always found weird because it'll change search behaviour based on whether or not you're logged in :S
05:00 eythian hmm yeah. That's OK in this case, as people are always logged in.
05:01 dcook \o/
05:34 eythian @later tell cait I'm beating you in duolinguo for the week so far!
05:34 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
05:56 * magnuse waves
05:58 eythian hi cait
05:58 cait hi magnuse and eythian
05:58 eythian I'm beating you in duolinguo for the week so far!
05:58 cait duolingo battle?
05:58 cait seriously?
05:58 eythian heh
05:58 cait you are still talking to the woman with a 136 day streak
05:59 eythian that's a bit ridiculous, I have to say ;)
05:59 cait but if you want... the game is on ;)
05:59 eythian well, they added dutch just recently, so I've been going through those fairly quickly.
06:00 eythian It's got fewer weird bits than German.
06:00 cait is htat duolingo or german for the werid bits? :)
06:01 eythian German. German has weird bits.
06:02 cait :)
06:02 cait true
06:05 magnuse true
06:06 magnuse ooh, syslog
06:07 eythian yeah, we're wanting to pull data into our log mulching system
06:08 cait oh lots of patches pushed :)
06:08 cait and i didn't dream about lfsr...
06:08 magnuse logmulching++
06:08 magnuse lfsr?
06:08 cait magnuse: trust me... you don't want to know
06:08 eythian cait: had you dreamt about it, you would have come to a solution :)
06:08 cait it has to do with shuffling lots of 0 1 around
06:08 magnuse Linear feedback shift register?
06:09 cait eythian: i sent something in last night
06:09 cait now waiting for the feedback
06:09 eythian ah right
06:09 magnuse ah distance studies?
06:09 magnuse i was hoping it was a cool new feature for koha...
06:09 cait first, sadly not the second
06:09 magnuse gah! ;-)
06:11 eythian * cait is implementing an lfsr into koha
06:11 cait lol
06:12 cait tonight i am probably going ot have fon with challenge response authentication
06:14 magnuse now we are talking serious fun!
06:14 cait heh
06:18 magnuse maybe some very german fun, with authentication and health and safety and everything... ;-)
06:19 eythian some additional paperwork...
06:20 cait hmpf
06:39 reiveune hello
06:39 wahanui bidet, reiveune
06:50 magnuse tjänare Viktor
06:51 Viktor Hej magnuse :)
06:54 Viktor Guys - I get the right translation in opac even when clearing cookies. Does it pick up some http headers from the browsers default language?
06:56 Viktor Hm. Code says: # use cookie setting for language, bug default to syspref if it's not set
06:57 Viktor I have a feeling that we had a bug with this a while back (specifically in IE) and we're building a Koha connector for our federated search.
06:57 magnuse it used to respect the language settings in your browser
06:57 magnuse not sure if that has changed?
06:58 magnuse there has been some changes in that area
06:58 alex_a bonjour
06:58 Viktor magnuse: It works fine in all browsers now that I know of.
06:58 magnuse kewl
06:59 Viktor magnuse: But the our federated search server doesn't send any language codes yet. So I guess we might have to make the script send some http headers with language code(?)
07:01 fridolin hie all
07:01 Viktor Bonjour alex_a
07:01 Viktor Hi fridolin
07:05 fridolin Bonjour Viktor
07:07 magnuse Viktor: that might be doable, if the default is not what you want
07:07 magnuse eythian still around? i wanted to ask about the state of the plack work...
07:09 Joubu hello #koha
07:09 Viktor magnuse: It seems to default to english and we want it in sv-se. But it might not be an issue after all since people will use a browser to click through to the page and then get the correct translation. It's just the server that sees it in english.
07:10 Viktor Hello Joubu
07:20 magnuse Viktor: you might try to send a language header, then
07:21 magnuse Accept-Language, i think?
07:25 Viktor magnuse: Thanks! Will try that.
07:39 gaetan_B hello
07:48 * cait waves
07:48 dux hi anyone know if i can recreate the library.conf file
07:49 dux i deleted it, for some reason i should have renamed it, but i deleted it tut
07:49 dux i would like to know if there is a way to regenerate it
08:37 magnuse lol http://damnyouautosuggest.tumblr.com/
08:51 ashimema thanks for just lightening my day magnuse ;)
08:57 magnuse :-)
09:38 quocuy hi all
09:38 quocuy anyone is here?
09:43 quocuy Hello
09:55 rana hello
09:55 rana i have problem with koha circullation
09:55 rana we dont have any barcode system in our library
09:55 rana how could i issue book without barcode
09:57 magnuse rana: which version are you using?
09:58 magnuse there is a syspref itemBarcodeFallbackSearch in newer versions which lets you do a search from the barcode box on the checkout page
09:58 rana koha 3.16.03.000
09:58 magnuse it should work then
09:58 magnuse http://manual.koha-community.org/3.16/en/administration.html#itemBarcodeFallbackSearch
10:00 rana can i issue book with contol no?
10:31 magnuse rana: not sure what you mean by that?
10:31 rana that function is not working
10:32 rana i cant checkout book with control no
10:32 rana i have already eneble itmBarcodefallbacksearch
10:32 rana but the problem remain same
10:33 magnuse rana: what do you mean by "control no"?
10:33 rana accesation no
10:34 rana we dont have bar code scanner in our library so how do i issue book with circulation option in koha
10:35 magnuse where is the "accesation no" stored?
10:35 magnuse not sure which number you are thinking of
10:35 magnuse i think the search from the barcode box covers things like title, author
10:39 rana i had tried with authod and title but nothing happening
10:49 duxbuz thedefault apache website seems to be the only site i can connect to after following the walkthrough guide
10:50 duxbuz do i need to set up virtual sites or something
11:59 francharb good morning
12:12 magnus_lunch on the "Add patron attribute type"-page: "Check to make this attribute staff_searchable in the staff patron search." any particular reason for the underscore?
12:20 cait magnus_lunch: not that i know of :)
12:26 tcohen morning!
12:33 tcohen morning!
12:53 duxbuz thedefault apache website seems to be the only site i can connect to after following the walkthrough guide. do i need to set up virtual sites or something
12:56 tcohen duxbuz: on debian/ubuntu?
13:00 * magnuse gotta run
13:01 tcohen duxbuz: probably you need a2dissite 000-default.conf
13:03 duxbuz ye i was wondering if i could avoid that
13:04 duxbuz its not too much bother if i do it but i presume there is a way to make it work without removing the other site
13:05 tcohen koha sites get configured using name-based virtual hosts
13:05 tcohen so, the URL you use on the browser to access Koha, will make the difference
13:05 tcohen if you are using 127.0.0.1/localhost
13:06 tcohen it is possible that the default matches
13:09 duxbuz ok. yes i am using ip address
13:10 duxbuz although i have tried hostname but i may have this setup wrong
13:11 duxbuz its doesnt resolve anyway, but the hostname on its own again resolves back to apache site
13:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12953: FIX NewOrder test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81b9d8b8aac5c67d01dbac64a1dfa9de880e021d> / Bug 8868: Follow-up: Update boostrap documentation page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c1c5c04ceafb411dde1426967cb969a3969f80a> / Bug 8868: ILS-DI: CancelHold needs to take a reserve_id <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=45f
13:32 fALSO Hi there!
13:33 kmlussier fALSO: Hello
13:33 fALSO Anyone knows how to "debug" the Koha mail sending "part" ?
13:34 fALSO I upgraded a Koha to "debian" packages... removed all the previous crons, it created a general cron in /etc/cron.d
13:34 fALSO but it isnt sending any email
13:45 oleonard Hi #koha
13:45 cait hi oleonard :)
14:24 pastebot "duxbuz" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "/etc/koha/koha-sites.conf" (64 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/215
14:53 tcohen getting closer http://snag.gy/U62aG.jpg
14:54 oleonard \o/
15:08 barton sweet.
15:09 oleonard I'm curious if anyone has any good examples of using Authorized values' branch limitation
15:10 oleonard Seems like it's suited to, for example, the LOC shelving location category. Is anyone using it that way?
15:12 barton I have a *very* mysterious issue with Zebra: Items in the zebra-queue are correctly indexed when when fast indexing is run from the command line, but the bibs are not searchable when fast-indexing runs through cron.
15:13 barton I copied the following command from the crontab:
15:13 barton /usr/bin/flock -n /tmp/noauth.lockfile perl /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -x -b -z
15:14 barton runs fine from bash, logged in as 'koha'.
15:15 barton When run in cron, the 'done' flag *is* being set, but when I do a title search, I'm not finding anything.
15:16 barton when I re-queue the bibs and run it by hand, the title search works.
15:17 barton we're using DOM for both bib and auth records.
15:17 reiveune bye
15:17 barton running a full zebra re-index will also make the bibs searchable.
15:19 oleonard I and my catalogers would be very grateful for any help you might offer barton
15:23 barton I just added the 'verbose' flag to the crontab version... that might tell me *something*.
15:47 barton no love with the verbose output from rebuild_zebra.pl ... the output is identical, except for the number of records processed (which is to be expected, because stuff is added to the zebra queue)
15:50 barton I also checked rebuild_zebra.pl to see if there were executables called or environment variables read. There is a reference to 'chdir $ENV{HOME} if (!(-r '.'));' -- but I'm pretty sure that $HOME is available from cron.
15:52 barton ... I'm running out of ideas about what could possibly vary between calling rebuild_zebra.pl via cron vs. bash.
15:58 fridolin barton: have a look at --wait-for-lock option of rebuild_zebra.pl
15:58 fridolin sorry gat go
16:00 barton fridolin++
16:31 tcohen bye #koha
16:33 * ribasushi => extra lurker
16:40 gaetan_B bye !
16:50 cait hi ribasushi
16:50 ribasushi o/
16:51 cait :)
17:47 barton @later tell fridolin I just checked acpl's rebuild_zebra.pl -- it's an older version that doesn't use flock(), so it doesn't have the --wait-for-lock option.
17:47 huginn barton: The operation succeeded.
17:49 barton oleonard -- no dice on fridolin's suggestion, that only applies to newer versions of rebuild_zebra.pl.
17:49 bag morning
17:50 bag @later tell magnuse HI
17:50 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
17:50 barton hey bag!
17:50 barton bag -- oloenard's handed me a stumper.
17:51 bag excellent
17:51 bag oleonard++
17:51 barton I've got records that are indexing correctly in rebuild_zebra.pl when I run it by hand, but not when it's run through cron.
17:52 barton ... which is *not* to say that rebuild_zebra.pl is not running -- it's touching the records in zebraqueue.
17:52 bag hmm... but it's not "changing" the idx file?
17:52 bag can you see what the last write to the .idx file is?
17:53 oleonard It should be noted that as far as we know this problem has only been happening since our server required a restart on Friday 9/12
17:53 bag barton: I'd also check the permissions on the .idx and maybe space?
17:53 bag NateC?
17:53 wahanui I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE
17:53 barton wahanui++
17:56 barton bag: when you say '.idx' -- is that /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/default.idx?
17:56 bag yeah I think there should be a 3 files iirc
17:57 barton -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 649 Apr 17 15:04 /usr/share/idzebra-2.0/tab/icu.idx
17:57 barton -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1070 Apr 17 15:04 /usr/share/idzebra-2.0/tab/default.idx
17:57 barton -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1125 Aug 27 20:20 /etc/koha/zebradb/etc/default.idx
17:57 bag you can check the directory of the index in the zebra-bilbio.cfg (iirc)
17:57 bag barton: larryb will no the spot - he's in the other channel
17:58 bag HA no/know
18:02 barton bag: -rw-r--r-- 1 koha koha 1125 Jun 13 2013 /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/zebradb/etc/default.idx
18:03 barton ... that file is small, and old.
18:03 bag yup that's not it
18:04 bag maybe it's not called .idx
18:04 bag one sec
18:15 bag well oleonard the index files are being writen to every ten minutes
19:02 ashimema ribasushi.. that's a name i've not seen here before?
19:08 ribasushi ashimema: no you have not, I am going to lurk around answering deep backend questions from time to time ;)
19:09 jcamins ribasushi: you wrote DBIC, didn't you?
19:09 ashimema awesome.. that's assuming you are indeed the rubasushi i'm thinking of ;)
19:09 ashimema as above
19:09 ashimema ;)
19:09 ribasushi I wrote some more recent parts of it, not my original idea ;)
19:09 ribasushi shoulders of giants and all that
19:10 cait ribasushi: great to see you around :)
19:10 cait i think someone may have pointed you to our mailing list discussion already?
19:10 ashimema Well, it's great to have a new lurker.. especially one who understands dbic ;)
19:10 ribasushi yes, also the reason I am here
19:10 cait :)
19:10 ribasushi cait: ^^
19:10 cait awesome
19:12 * ashimema goes off to catch up on that thread.. 'tis fast moving at the moment
19:13 * cait gave up on it right now... have to work on distance study asignments again :(
19:13 ashimema It's starting to look like we're getting twoard a decision..
19:13 ashimema all db access to happen only in .pm's (as is currently the case)..
20:12 SirDekar hi everyone
20:12 SirDekar have anyone of you installed koha on debian 7.1?
20:46 rangi morning
20:47 cait morning rangi
20:50 b-what Friday, September 19
20:50 b-what International Talk Like a Pirate Day 2014
20:50 b-what YAAYYY
20:56 wnickc That was a nice public service announcement
21:09 wizzyrea I think you mean "yarrr"
21:14 ibeardslee At the risk of offending any of the good germans about, bonus points for NZers speaking like a fat german ;)
21:14 ashimema -why are pirates called pirate... 'cause they arrrrr!
21:15 ashimema morning rangi
21:15 * ashimema heads off for sleep
21:16 wizzyrea ew no one wants to sound like that guy he's a not-nice-person
21:17 cait ibeardslee: huh?
21:17 wizzyrea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dotcom < cait
21:17 ibeardslee ^^
21:17 cait i am still trying to figure out if i should be offended or not :)
21:17 ibeardslee no, you are wonderful
21:20 wizzyrea ^
21:21 wizzyrea he's not wonderful, happens to originally be from Germany
21:21 wizzyrea you don't have to claim him.
21:21 cait he seems also part finnihs
21:22 wizzyrea we won't blame the finns for him either.
21:23 cait heh
21:23 cait where is eythian btw?
21:23 cait noone is telling me to go to sleep, that's irritating:)
21:25 wnickc Seems a reasonable time of day to be awake on my side of tghe globe
21:26 cait wnickc: :)
21:26 cait what time is it at your place wnickc?
21:27 wizzyrea cait: it's not that late yet - but if you are tired, I'm happy to stand in for eythian and tell you "go to bed"
21:27 cait soon :)
21:27 cait 23:27 here
21:30 wnickc 17:28 cait
21:30 cait wnickc: that's a much better time
21:31 wnickc 30 minutes from now when I am home will be even better :)
21:31 cait :)
21:31 cait have a nice evening!
21:32 wnickc bye cait
21:32 rangi interesting the meeting times for the na kug are all during kohacon, i better switch the timezone to argentina so i can see what times they are there
21:33 wnickc d'oh, that was me not thinking
21:33 wnickc sorry rangi
21:33 rangi s'ok
21:33 rangi it's not really aimed at me, and it works better
21:33 rangi 2pm 4pm and 5pm argentina time
21:34 rangi is better than the 6am nz time it was :)
21:34 rangi we could put the irc meeting up on the big screen hehe
21:35 wnickc I am not actually sure of platform, NEKLS was offering their conferencing platform I believe
21:35 rangi ahh right
21:36 wnickc I don't think we are going to be that exciting
21:36 rangi yeah :)
21:36 rangi be kinda neat to do a quick crossover or something tho
21:37 rangi get the kohacon audience to wave or something :)
21:38 wnickc When I got my reimbursement check for NAKUG travel it actually said 'Kohacon 14' I breifly considered if that was a good enough basis for buying tickets to argentina and assuming it was preapproved
21:39 wizzyrea heh.
21:41 rangi :)
21:41 cait wnickc: would be nice to meet you :)
21:42 wnickc we did meet at kohacon 13 cait
21:43 cait i said it... and then..
21:43 cait i was like, oh. reno.
21:43 cait meet again then? :)
21:43 wnickc it's okay, I was far far less involved then
21:43 wnickc indeed
21:43 wnickc also, go to sleep cait
21:43 cait oh
21:44 wnickc :)
21:45 wnickc bye all!
21:46 cait bye all :)
21:50 rangi http://who.is/dns/jamiehankins.co.uk <-- why you should escape all html
21:51 rangi someone sneaky put html tags in their dns record ;)
21:51 wizzyrea hehe that's pretty awesome.
21:58 tcohen hi
21:58 wahanui hello, tcohen
21:59 rangi heya tcohen
22:15 eythian hi
22:16 eythian @later magnuse a goodly bit of plack stuff has been done, mostly bugfixes. They should be trickling through, but I haven't checked the state of them for a while.
22:16 huginn eythian: downloading the Perl source
22:16 eythian @later tell magnuse a goodly bit of plack stuff has been done, mostly bugfixes. They should be trickling through, but I haven't checked the state of them for a while.
22:16 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
23:03 tcohen sample unimarc?
23:12 eythian wahanui: sample unimarc is <reply>no.
23:12 wahanui OK, eythian.
23:17 tcohen sample unimarc?
23:17 wahanui no.
23:17 tcohen damn
23:17 tcohen koha+unimarc is broken
23:20 eythian It's probably MARC's fault.
23:22 tcohen install all unimarc sample data, try to catalog, creating an authority record, boom
23:22 eythian hi papa
23:24 tcohen heh (fsck)
23:25 tcohen eythian: should koha-common depend on systemd too? :-P
23:25 eythian I don't see why not :)
23:27 * tcohen doesn't like systemd
23:27 tcohen https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bZId5j2jREQ/U-vlysklvCI/AAAAAAAACrA/B4JggkVJi38/w426-h284/bd0fb252416206158627fb0b1bff9b4779dca13f.gif
23:28 eythian I have no particular opinions on systemd
23:29 papa hi there!
23:30 tcohen oh dear
23:31 tcohen i definitely cannot save a catalogued biblio record
23:31 tcohen unimarc people must hate us
23:31 rangi not enough to test the patches
23:32 rangi thats the problem we have, lack of unimarc testers ;(
23:32 tcohen 3.18 feature, UNIMARC support un-official
23:33 rangi maybe me, you, joubu and paul can fix that in the hackfest
23:33 rangi i cant imagine its beyond repair
23:33 tcohen ah, you always manage to convince me heh
23:33 rangi :)
23:46 tcohen rangi: we need 4 hackfests a year
23:50 wizzyrea what we need, is for libraries to pay us to have hackfests.
23:50 wizzyrea so we can just hackfest all the time
23:52 * tcohen hopes some local devs might get convinced to join the community
23:52 tcohen and we can have regional hackfests