Time Nick Message 00:04 dcook Oh WYSIWYG editors, why do you hate HTML so much? 00:05 eythian wahanui: packages 00:05 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 00:05 eythian papa: --^ there 00:28 mtompset ubuntu? 00:28 wahanui i think ubuntu is a debian-based OS and Koha has shiny new ubuntu intructions. 00:28 mtompset ubuntu packages? 00:28 mtompset package install? 00:28 wahanui hmmm... package install is easy, if you do it on a supported os 00:29 mtompset installation? 00:29 wahanui installation is running a modified 3.6.x 00:29 mtompset git? 00:29 wahanui i heard git was mostly needed when you want to do development, there are packages for debian that can make my life eaiser installing it 00:29 mtompset tarball? 00:29 wahanui The tarballs are available at http://download.koha-community.org/ though if you are on a debian-based OS, try the packages. 00:29 mtompset instructions? 00:29 wahanui instructions are coming right now to the wiki near you 00:49 dcook Hmm... I like this two monitor setup, but a third monitor would be rather nice... 03:32 eythian urg, 3.14.10 requires a new dependency. 03:32 eythian That is double-plus-ungood. 03:32 dcook :( 03:33 eythian liblocale-maketext-lexicon-perl 03:33 eythian at least it's in debian already. 03:33 rangi people been backporting features ? 03:33 eythian yup, bug 8044 specifically 03:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Localization for Perl scripts and modules 03:34 rangi gah 03:34 rangi somehow the rule that we only backport fixes has gotten lost 03:34 dcook ^ 03:36 eythian I sent a passive aggressive email to the dev list about it :) 03:37 rangi :) thats the library way! :) 03:39 dcook lol 03:53 eythian urg, and there's special cases in the control file I need to be aware of because I was expecting to not have to regenerate it. 04:02 eythian OK, time to try building 3.14.10 again 04:26 eythian 3.14.10 packages uploading 04:26 eythian I suppose I should have a go fixing master after this. 04:36 * cait waves 04:36 eythian hi cait 04:37 cait hi eythian 05:26 eythian @later tell tcohen this Test::Simple thing is going to be annoying. I shall blame you! :) 05:26 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 05:28 * eythian has to run away to make beer. Later all. 06:02 rangi BobB: so argentina are playing australia, in argentina october 5 06:03 rangi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estadio_Malvinas_Argentinas <-- there 06:05 BobB what? 06:05 rangi unfortunately its a 7 hour drive there from cordoba 06:06 rangi but we might be able to find a sports bar to watch it :) 06:06 BobB oh the Wallabies? I assumed football, doh 06:07 BobB yeah, that would be great 06:07 BobB I would not fly to it, the day after a long haul :) 06:07 rangi yeah :) 06:07 rangi nz vs south africa sometime that day too 06:07 rangi in south africa 06:08 rangi last round of the tournament, so could be exciting 06:08 BobB time for a kip in between then? Or a long night! 06:08 BobB nah, will be done by then, Blacks are untouchable this year 06:10 rangi i think the sa one will be during the day, while we are at conference 06:10 rangi but the argentina should be the evening argentina time 06:11 BobB Sunday night in SA would be Sunday morning in Argentina? might be earlier 06:12 BobB 5th is saturday, eh 06:14 rangi its 10.40am 5th nz time 06:14 rangi so not suer what time that is in argentina, lemme check 06:15 rangi oh its on the 4th argentina time 06:15 rangi darn, i think we will be in the air 06:15 rangi or in santiago, i doubt it will be on at the airport :) 06:16 BobB maybe at the airport in Santiago 06:16 BobB snap! 06:23 petter Hi #koha 06:23 rangi hi petter 06:40 reiveune hello 06:41 ashimema morning all 06:44 akafred "god morgen" (from Norway) 06:45 rangi morning reiveune, ashimema, paul_p and akafred 06:45 paul_p hi rangi. 06:46 reiveune \o_ 06:46 paul_p spring coming ? (here, summer still here. Or should I say at least, summer is here. We had the most raining & cold summer since a long time. We used the cond air only a few time) 06:48 ashimema similar here paul.. pretty rainy summer 06:53 ashimema did anyone manage to catch gmcharlt about the holds display bug in 3.16.3 yesterday? 06:54 ashimema looks like he missed a tiny typo followup when he pushed the ajax circ bug.. 06:56 marcelr hi #koha 06:57 dcook Noo, go away people. It can't be time for me to go home yet... 06:57 marcelr hi dcook 06:57 marcelr just stay 06:57 ashimema haha... hi dcook 06:58 dcook hehe 06:58 dcook hey marcelr && ashimema :) 06:59 dcook paul_p: it looked like spring was coming, then it got cold again :S 07:03 Joubu Hello 07:03 wahanui hey, Joubu 07:04 Joubu ashimema: hum, I thought rainy summer was usual in England. 07:04 dcook yo Joubu 07:13 Joubu it seems that koha-na.org should require a password for editing the wiki page.. 07:13 Joubu http://koha-na.org/index.php/Future_of_NA_Koha_Users_Group_discussion 07:14 rangi Joubu: yep, i let them know 07:15 Joubu rangi: I undone the the last change 07:16 rangi cool, if you look at the recent changes, its lots of spam 07:20 marcelr thx ashimema 07:25 Joubu haha, the Lyon3's poster is very funny 07:30 * mveron found some broken links on Koha about page. See Bug 7143 07:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 07:40 marcelr mveron++ 07:43 * cait waves 07:43 dcook yo cait :) 07:45 cait yo dcook 07:50 matts hi #koha ! 07:50 cait hi matts :) 07:50 matts cait, ashimema, I'll probably have another look at the shib patch today or tomorrow. 07:51 cait cool 07:51 cait let me know if you need something 07:51 matts okay :) 07:51 ashimema lol.. nice spot Joubu 07:52 ashimema matts: awesome! 07:52 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, ashimema 07:52 matts Oh, and just a reminder : nobody looked at Bug 12631 I think... I would be glad if someone did. It's really a fix for a wrong behavior that needs to be corrected :) 07:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12631 normal, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , Inventory: fix "wrong place" and "item not scanned" statuses 07:53 matts (the test plan is there, and the patch is small :)) 07:54 dcook Man... Chrome needs to get better dictionaries. It's underlining all my five dollar words... 07:55 ashimema will take a look at 12631 today matts 07:57 matts Thx ! 08:32 cait hm 08:32 cait it used to be possible to scan items onto a list in staff 08:33 cait is that feature gone or are we just not seeing it? 08:33 cait staff - lists - list details - i thought 08:34 cait hm 08:34 cait looks like it only appears for 'my lists' 08:34 cait not for public lists although i can change those too 08:34 cait i am reporting ab ug later 08:35 ashimema cait.. you are a bug finding machine ;) 08:43 cait i wish i was not 08:47 marcelr i have a dom question (dom means stupid in dutch by the way :-): can i exclude a marc subfield from dom indexing? 08:48 marcelr i commented the field in the indexdefs but the contents is still in the any index? 08:48 marcelr anyone knows? 08:51 marcelr bug 11291 08:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11291 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Failed QA , Change the behavior of any index in DOM indexing 08:52 cait hm 08:52 cait only the usual... are you really using DOM? did you reindex? 08:52 cait in my case it usually is... did you use the env variable of the right installation and did reindex the right one.... 08:53 cait but that's because my setup is weird :) 08:54 marcelr yes i reindexed 08:54 marcelr also bug 8962 08:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8962 enhancement, P4, ---, mathsabypro, Needs Signoff , Create a new index for OPAC simple search, more specific than "any" 08:54 cait oh 08:54 cait dev installation? 08:54 cait did you copy the new index defs over to koha-dev 08:55 marcelr it seems that some have been working on this already 08:55 cait or whatever yours is called if you didn't symlink them 08:55 marcelr yes dev install completely reindexed 08:55 cait and you rerean makefile? 08:55 marcelr but any by default includes everything 08:55 cait yes, but it needs to be indexed in some way i think 08:56 marcelr i will have a look at those patches 08:59 brinxmat hey folks, can anyone give me a pointer to a simple method for inspecting a zebra index? 09:27 quyen_pq Hi everybody 09:28 quyen_pq I get problem with koha index zebra in Viet namese language to index 09:28 quyen_pq Not found precise term 09:29 quyen_pq Example: When I type in the search box: Nguyen Minh Phuong and "Nguyen Minh Phuong" is the same results. 09:29 quyen_pq Althougt I try to edit icu.idx 09:29 quyen_pq and restart zebra server index. 09:48 cait did you activate fuzzy? 10:25 ashimema any javascript bods about? 10:25 ashimema We have a customer using koha inside an iFrame.. (yes, I hate iframes too) 10:26 ashimema I've fixed most issues but still have one last one left. 10:26 ashimema the basket.js code doesn't like working as it attempts to write a cookie across the iframe boundary. 10:36 akafred Are pastes on http://paste.koha-community.org/ not persistent over time? 10:58 ashimema stuff it.. cross domain basket is just never gonna work me thinks.. 10:58 ashimema unless of course we switch to using localstorage instead of cookies maybe.. 10:58 ashimema either way.. not worth my time to fix at this moment. 12:00 cait akafred: no, when the server gets restarted it starts over 12:01 akafred even the numbering? 12:01 cait yes, it starts fresh, old pastes are lost 12:01 cait it#s just for temporary things 12:02 oleonard Hi everyone 12:02 akafred ok, thanks cait 12:33 dpavlin khall: can you please take a look at my comment on bug 12729 -- comments from other JavaScript/date gurus are also very welcomed :-) 12:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12729 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Overdue items won't show as overdue in red in circulation 12:35 khall dpavlin: will do! 12:35 tcohen morning khall 12:36 dpavlin khall: thanks, my librarians are breading on my neck about this one :-) 12:38 khall dpavlin: yeah, we figured out FireFox is way more picky about dates. The question is, how do we solve it? I wish jQuery had a date/time system 12:40 dpavlin khall: I don't really know. I'm almost biased towards doing this check on perl side, and returning overdue flag together with other data instead of doing that in javascript. 12:41 dpavlin Alternative might be to include some third-party javascript date library, but somehow, I prefer to stay in perl with this. 12:41 khall I'm leaning that way as well 12:43 dpavlin so, if you write patch, i will SO it, or you want that other way around? ;-) 12:45 khall if you want to write it, I'll so it! I think the code is much fresher in your mind right now than mine ; ) 13:01 ashimema Is it just me.. or is there a bug in updatedatabase when running an upgrade between 3.14.09 to 3.16.03? 13:02 ashimema every time I've run that upgrade path I'm faced with: 13:02 ashimema DBD::mysql::db do failed: Table 'koha.roadtype' doesn't exist at ./updatedatabase.pl line 7987. 13:02 cait it's a backport problem 13:02 ashimema thought it might. 13:02 cait i think 3.16 and 3.14 both try to move your roadtype table to authorized value 13:03 cait i think you can safely ignore it - maybe check if you have a roadtype auth value if the library used the feature 13:05 ashimema it's a particularly annoying one. as you can't ignore it.. 13:05 ashimema you must somehow manually override it.. as the updatadatabase dies instead of continueing. 13:05 cait oh 13:05 ashimema indeed.. 13:05 cait i hadn't had that happen yet 13:05 cait maybe it's more strict on command line or something? 13:05 ashimema so you end up with an unusable koha! 13:06 cait ugh 13:06 ashimema nope.. you get the same through staff client. 13:06 cait well than maybe we should patch that 13:06 cait it shoudl check if the database still exists 13:06 cait before running the second update bit 13:06 cait hm the table 13:06 wahanui the table is auth_header 13:06 cait not the database 13:06 cait forget the table 13:06 wahanui cait: I forgot table 13:07 druthb wahanui: botsnack 150,000 authority records that won't ever be attached to anything 13:07 wahanui :) 13:07 * druthb likes making catalogers twitch 13:07 nengard heh 13:08 oleonard wahanui forgot the table? Worst. Banquet. Ever. 13:08 wahanui oleonard: i'm not following you... 13:11 druthb lol 13:12 oleonard I'm working with this regex fragment: [-. ]? How can I match a single space, multiple spaces, or no spaces? 13:15 oleonard Hm, [-. ]*? seems to work 13:16 druthb It should. * means "zero or more times" 13:17 oleonard I'm all for the infinite wonder of nature, but I could do without the infinite number of ways my staff can enter a &%$@ phone number 13:17 druthb lol 13:19 druthb I think I had a little script that normalized them, once, might be in the old migrations repo. Basically, threw away everything non-digit, and then checked. if 7 or 10 digits long, then it's easy. others, leave it like it was before. Didn't solve all the problems, but it helped some. 13:19 druthb I don't recall if I did that for Koha data normalization, or if I did it as a Sirsi Unicorn API script…but it shouldn't be hard to recreate that logic. 13:20 oleonard druthb: But that would mess up phone numbers like "(555)555-5555 (dad's cell phone, don't call before 3)" !!1 13:21 druthb No, it would ignore it utterly, and leave it right where it was. That's 11 digits. But if you also said, "leave alone ones that match /[a-zA-Z]/, then you'd be double-sure. 13:22 jcamins Of course, if you did that you'd also get "Athens, OH" as a phone number. 13:22 druthb the more I think about it, the more I think I did that in my Sirsi days. I seem to remember our User Services committee pitching a fit about it, such that I had to make it uber-conservative, and only normalize when it was *certain*. 13:24 * oleonard runs off to check for phone numbers like "Athens, OH" in the db 13:24 dpavlin khall: take a look at bug 12729 -- I opted to use mysql to tell me if date is overdue which will probably have some performance advantage over using DateTime perl module 13:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12729 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Overdue items won't show as overdue in red in circulation 13:26 oleonard Nope. Several email addresses and lots of "bad #" and "no phone" 13:27 druthb I always found, with Koha data, that I had to spend a lot more time on city/state normalizations. The city would read "Houston, TX", and state would be "77063". 13:28 druthb Then there was that time where I found no less than ten variant spellings of "Tennessee" in a bundle of patron data for a small college. One, which made me giggle, was "10ac" 13:30 oleonard Yeah we recently did a big city-state-zip normalization cleanup 13:31 oleonard I'm still struggling to get the staff to use the dropdown of predefined city/state/zips when adding patrons 13:31 oleonard ...for some reason 13:33 oleonard Imagine the havoc we could wreak if we let the batch patron modification tool accept arbitrary regex replacement patterns! 14:59 oleonard Bug 12873 14:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12873 trivial, P3, ---, rkopaczka, Needs Signoff , Reserve can be cancelled by any logged in user 14:59 oleonard Yuck. 15:00 oleonard That's one way to get to the top of the holds queue I guess 15:01 reiveune bye 15:05 Joubu oleonard: outch, bad. Is it a critical one? 15:06 oleonard It's marked as trivial! 15:06 Joubu oleonard: Yes, I have seen, but it looks critical, don't you think? 15:06 oleonard Yes 15:09 Joubu Hum, maybe not as much critical as I think. The code seems to be like that for a long time... 15:21 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "jcamins: new syntax for facets on biblios/biblio-koha-indexdefs.xml (sample is for UNIMARC)" (54 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/192 15:51 Joubu good bye! 15:54 chris_n http://tinyurl.com/phrnnov <= for all you bibliophiles 16:04 ashimema anyone ever used any javascript chart library? 16:04 ashimema there's so many 16:04 jcamins ashimema: some, yeah. 16:05 jcamins Which are you interested in? 16:06 ashimema I've not really rounded it down much yet tbh.. 16:06 ashimema so far looking at flot, chartjs and highcharts.. 16:06 Joubu ashimema: I used d3js for hea (https://github.com/biblibre/hea-app) 16:07 jcamins first question? 16:07 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 16:08 ashimema wantede to prototype adding charts to some of the koha reports 16:08 ashimema so basic pie and bar graphs derived from the data retunred from a report 16:08 ashimema for instance the 'Circulation stats' report 16:09 Joubu ashimema: I found nvd3 (based on d3js), it looks very easy to use 16:09 Joubu but I suspect a looot of js 16:10 Joubu http://nvd3.org/examples/index.html 16:10 Joubu the generated graphes are pretty nice and the code is very small 16:10 Joubu (I didn't try!) 16:11 jcamins nvd3 seems nice. 16:11 jcamins I used it some. 16:11 jcamins I mostly use d3, which you don't need. 16:11 jcamins I think highcharts has a problematic license. 16:12 ashimema was about to delve into license as a first run of reduing it ;) 16:14 ashimema yup.. highcharts is out.. strange license. 16:14 ashimema thanks 16:15 ashimema pretty sure flot is ok.. 16:15 ashimema though it's not any official gpl i recognise.. 16:15 ashimema looks like his own license 16:16 jcamins You certainly don't need dc.js, which is what I'm using these days. 16:17 ashimema Yeah.. I'm wanting somthing rather light and simple really. 16:17 ashimema Chartjs is looking like a goer so far.. 16:17 ashimema MIT is compatible license with us is it not? 16:18 jcamins Yeah. 16:18 ashimema :) 16:21 jcamins I guess the benefit of nvd3 over chartjs is that if you decide you want to do something insane, you can because it's d3 under the hood. 16:25 ashimema true.. 16:25 ashimema but then getting a large js library in is harder than a smaller one ;) 16:25 ashimema in the first place that is. 16:26 jcamins How so? 16:27 ashimema just a general observation.. 16:27 ashimema mostly plucked from the sky ;) 16:28 chris_n ashimema: I use highcharts all of the time; very slick, easy to use, etc. d3js is nice too, but more work depending on what you want to do 16:29 chris_n re: licensing is definitely not oss friendly 16:29 jcamins chris_n: unless you're doing something really insane, in which case d3 will probably be easier in the end. 16:29 * chris_n often hears the word insanity in the same sentence as his name 16:30 ashimema thanks for the thoughts guys.. it's certainly helped 16:30 jcamins <-- in that boat 17:57 tcohen bye #koha 18:29 wnickc @wunder 05059 18:29 huginn wnickc: The current temperature in West Hartford, West Hartford, Vermont is 24.1°C (2:23 PM EDT on September 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). 18:56 jmsasse wnickc: Hello. 18:57 wnickc Hi jmsasse 18:58 jmsasse wnickc: did you get an email for bug #12793? 18:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12793 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Breaking up IndependentBranches syspref to support finer staff permissions granularity 18:59 wnickc I did 18:59 wnickc next week I have a meeting with our implementation team and will bring it up 18:59 jmsasse Kyle is working on this in a different direction. 19:00 jmsasse wnickc: he is approaching it from the individual patrons permissions 19:00 jmsasse wnickc: rather than a global syspref. 19:03 wnickc jmsasse: I ike that idea, I had wondered if that was viable 19:04 jmsasse wnickc:probably more so than the syspref. 19:05 ashimema Interseting.. 19:05 wnickc khall++ 19:05 ashimema I hadn't spotted bug 12793 before.. 19:05 wnickc hi ashimema 19:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12793 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Breaking up IndependentBranches syspref to support finer staff permissions granularity 19:06 ashimema it's been somthing I've wanted to work on for a long while.. 19:07 ashimema I've added it to the dev meeting topic.. 19:07 ashimema there's already one on the agenda to discuss where we should go with independant branches. 19:07 ashimema also see bug 10904 19:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10904 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , would like to limit patron update request management by branch 19:09 jmsasse ashimema: Hello. #12793 potentially may be a paid enhancement. 19:09 ashimema that would be fantastic :) 19:09 cait bug 12793 19:10 ashimema I'd love to see it go ahead.. that area of koha has needed tidying for ages. 19:10 ashimema did huggin just barf 19:10 cait i think he doesn't like repeats 19:10 wnickc maybe also bug 11625 19:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11625 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Default to logged in library for circ rules and notices & slips 19:10 jcamins cait: if he's told you once, he's told you a thousand times? :) 19:10 jcamins Again. 19:10 ashimema there's a whole host of related features 19:11 cait ashimema: thereis also a library group dev that is interesting 19:11 ashimema would be good to build a bug omnibus up for it in a more structured way than currently 19:11 wnickc cait:is there a bug for that? 19:12 cait i think mutiple 19:12 wnickc hah 19:12 cait bug 10502 19:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10502 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, BLOCKED , Add independent branches option for sql reports 19:12 cait i think th emain one is bug 10276 19:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , Extend IndependentBranches to support groups of libraries 19:13 jmsasse cait: Hi:-) Yep, that's the one. 19:15 wnickc Ah, interesting, not quite what we dream about, but nice 19:15 jmsasse All of these bugs are important for us consortia. 19:15 ashimema haha.. I just learnt how to diff buffers in vim.. 19:15 ashimema awesome 19:16 cait the difficult thing is to have it all fit well together i guess 19:16 cait into one big picture 19:16 ashimema worth getting all those developments together and working out hwo they fit in the overall picture. 19:16 cait as kyle appears a lot on those 19:16 cait hopefully he has a bigger picture :) 19:17 jmsasse Yes, he does. 19:57 * rangi whistles innocently 19:59 cait morning rangi 19:59 cait what did oyu do? :) 19:59 rangi check the mailing list 19:59 cait v.? 19:59 wnickc 9780804178747 20:00 wnickc oops 20:00 rangi cait: http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2014-September/040675.html 20:00 jcamins [off] the Committee on Beatification called. Your decision to not include the phrase "unreasonable demands will be met with all deliberate force" earned you an instant canonization. 20:01 rangi [off] hehe 20:57 wizzyrea rangi++ 21:45 tcohen hi 21:46 tcohen heh, you were polite rangi 22:22 rangi tcohen: did you see i got excited i thought i could see a rugby game in argentina, then i realised it was when i would be in the airport in sanitago 22:24 tcohen hm 22:24 tcohen that's a pity 22:25 bag any football matches going on? 22:25 bag I'd love to go to one 22:27 rangi not this kind eh 22:27 rangi http://www.acfa.com.ar/ 22:27 bag no not that kind :P 22:28 rangi http://www.belgranocordoba.com/ 22:28 bag I'm actually going to a monday night american football game with JesseM, Mario, NateC and tgoat 22:28 rangi cool 22:32 bag ah bummer I won't be there the 5th 22:46 tcohen YAY! it works! 22:46 rangi ? 22:46 * tcohen is really excited 22:47 tcohen i've learnt XSLT :-D 22:47 rangi cool :) 22:47 tcohen and the facets patches are ready :-D 22:47 tcohen both the same day heh 22:47 rangi sweet! 22:47 rangi very cool 23:30 dcook Nice one, tcohen! 23:31 dcook I really disliked XSL at first, but I'm actually a bit fond of it now.. 23:43 dcook Holy... where is magnuse when you need him? 23:43 dcook I had no idea that Sydney had nearly the same population as the whole of Norway... 23:54 dcook Also just realized that having a maxlength field in marc_subfield_structure makes 0 sense 23:54 dcook As the 9999 size restriction is actually for the field not the subfield...