Time Nick Message 02:22 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. 02:52 eythian http://i.imgur.com/0I5PR5G.jpg 03:59 * indradg waves 04:17 wizzyrea why do we not ship a SUPPRESS authorised value by default? 04:17 wizzyrea and set the framework to use it? 04:17 wizzyrea seems arbitrary. 04:28 indradg wizzyrea: need help. trying to file an enhancement bug the plugins. which COMPONENT do I put it up for? 04:29 indradg Tools? 04:29 wahanui I HAVE NO TOOLS BECAUSE I'VE DESTROYED eythian's TOOLS WITH eythian's TOOLS. 04:39 eythian hrm 04:39 eythian no wahanui, tools is <reply>\I HAVE NO TOOLS BECAUSE I'VE DESTROYED \MY TOOLS WITH \MY TOOLS. 04:39 wahanui okay, eythian. 04:39 wizzyrea yeah tools I'd reckon 04:40 wizzyrea tools? 04:40 wahanui I HAVE NO TOOLS BECAUSE I'VE DESTROYED MY TOOLS WITH MY TOOLS. 04:40 wizzyrea hehe 04:40 indradg or 'Staff Client' 04:40 wizzyrea tools is where plugins live 04:40 wizzyrea uh oh 04:40 wizzyrea tools? 04:40 wahanui I HAVE NO TOOLS BECAUSE I'VE DESTROYED MY TOOLS WITH MY TOOLS. 04:40 wizzyrea hehe 04:40 indradg heh 04:40 wizzyrea I don't think that one is going to not amuse me. Ever. 04:40 wizzyrea that is, I think that one will always amuse me. 05:04 petter hi #khoa 06:50 ashimema Morning #koha 06:59 ashimema @later tell khall any chance you could reply to marcel on bug 7595.. i'de love to get it mving again ;) 06:59 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded. 07:06 cait bug 7595 07:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7595 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add branchcode to accountlines 07:06 cait ah 07:06 cait about to catch a train back later:) 07:06 ashimema good weekend cait? 07:06 cait yep 07:06 cait just vacation timemoving abit too fast :) 07:06 ashimema Nice geeky times ;) 07:06 cait heh 07:07 cait i should hav eworked on my distance study course... guess that explains 07:07 cait have to pack up and catch my bus, bbl 07:29 quyen_pq Hi everybody 07:40 marcelr hi #koha 08:04 cait @later tell tcohen coul you take a look at bug 12623 please? 08:04 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 08:05 cait marcelr: notsure if the schema - i guess that table is quite old? 08:05 marcelr just a guess when reading it 08:06 cait it could be - i tihnk tcohen might know or maybe yohann sees it 08:10 cait i am on train today... so probably going to fall ou to fthe channel lots 08:13 marcelr just do not fall out of the train :) 08:13 cait1 will try :) 08:13 marcelr cait: a rebased bug 6536 begs for qa 08:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Z3950 Search Enhancements: SRU targets and additional XSLT processing 08:13 cait1 cool :) 08:14 cait1 i am working on the ils-di bug right now... if i can ever get to the documentation 08:14 cait1 irc is more stable than accessing internet pages 08:15 Joubu hello #koha 08:15 marcelr hi Joubu 08:15 marcelr back from vacation? 08:15 Joubu marcelr: yep 08:15 marcelr hope you had a good time 08:17 cait1 do you know the page to access ils-di documentation on the opac? 08:17 cait1 found it 08:17 * cait1 waves 08:17 cait1 hi Joubu 08:28 cait1 Joubu: do you know if matts is on vacation now? 08:29 Joubu cait1: yes, he is 08:29 ashimema shame.. I was hopign to get him to test the final followup on my shib stuff 08:30 ashimema cait1, marcelr want me to take a loko at qa'ing bug 6536 then? 08:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Z3950 Search Enhancements: SRU targets and additional XSLT processing 08:30 marcelr ashimema: you are welcome :) 08:30 ashimema marcelr.. sorry you got such a rude reply from the cpan author of libxml.. I thought your email was perfctly sensible. 08:30 * cait agrees with marcelr :) 08:30 ashimema I've reported the issue directly in cpan rt too btw now. 08:30 cait i think we might have an sru server if you need sth to test with 08:30 marcelr i am inconsiderate; you have been warned 08:31 ashimema got a feeling he won't bother looking at the number of open issues. 08:31 marcelr too bad; but it actually goes to libxml2 08:32 cait [off] https://wiki.bsz-bw.de/doku.php?id=v-team:daten:sru 08:33 cait libxml2? 08:34 marcelr yes 08:34 marcelr C library 08:37 cait so the problem is not in the perl library but even deeper down? 08:41 ashimema yup 08:41 ashimema that was what I thought. 08:41 ashimema real shame.. 08:43 ashimema I couldn't find an easy way to submit a bug that far upstream though :( 08:43 ashimema I think it's probably a security thing... 08:46 cait printing_your_own_train_tickets++ 08:46 ashimema :) 08:59 cait ok 08:59 ashimema ? 09:01 cait i managed to create a hold and cancel a hold using ILS-DOI 09:01 cait DI even 09:01 cait but one thing is puzzling 09:01 cait i don't see he documentation change - it still says item identifier to me on cgi-bin/koha/ilsdi.pl?service=Describe&verb=CancelHold 09:01 cait does someone have an idea hwat's going wrong there? 09:01 cait ooh 09:01 cait bootstrap 09:01 cait we need to change the doc for bootstrap. 09:01 cait why is it always after asking the question that you figure it out? :) 09:01 ashimema hehe 09:02 ashimema ils-di confuses me to be honest... I never really understand whether we're 'allowed' to extend it or not. 09:02 ashimema It's meant to be a standard isn't it.. 09:04 cait i tihnk it's no longer really maintained... so adding to it where we need to is probably ok 09:04 cait i think 09:05 cait keeping to the standard as much as makes sense? 09:05 cait i am only worried because I tink ideally it should be possible to run it on a different port 09:05 cait right now all you can do i think is to limit access to a single ip via pref 09:05 cait black forrest now... means probably i am going to lose connection 09:18 cait hmpf 09:25 * ashimema woudl like to see one ring to rule them all.. 09:25 * ashimema s/ring/api/ 09:26 rangi oh poor ireland :( 09:26 ashimema ? 09:26 rangi they went with sierra 09:26 rangi for their all of public libraries ils 09:26 ashimema yikes.. poor ireland. 09:27 ashimema shame we couldn't get them on board 09:28 ashimema your up late aint you rangi? 09:28 ashimema not so bad.. 9.30 pm righT? 09:28 rangi yep, not too late 09:30 ashimema I'm not all that surprised that we/interleaf didn't get it. 09:31 ashimema interleaf haven't really done any 'big' koha's yet.. and we decided to support them rather than go up against them.. think we might have had a better chance on our own maybe. 09:31 ashimema glad that sirsidynic didn't gte it though ;) 09:32 ashimema ' Innovative went and met the Irish Prime Minister and offered to open an office in Ireland with 50 jobs, hard to compete with that' 09:32 rangi yeah i think you probably would have had a better shot 09:32 rangi yeah 09:32 ashimema kinda hard to compete with the promise of 50 jobs for the nation though ;) 09:33 rangi if your ils needs 50 staff 09:33 rangi you're doing something wrong :) 09:33 ashimema my thoughts exactly. 09:33 ashimema anywho.. water under the bridge. 09:34 ashimema would have been nice to have another big boy for the koha community though. 09:34 rangi yep 09:34 rangi altho i feel like its probably a really bad idea to try to do a nationwide instance 09:35 rangi getting a proper distributed/federated network makes more sense 09:35 rangi well i think so anyway 09:36 rangi altho ireland is pretty geographically small, so it might work there 09:37 rangi for big distances ... i dont care if the book is available in a library 1000km away, that doesnt help me at all 09:46 ashimema haha.. indeed 09:46 ashimema I was hoping that they would fund a bunch of development toward making koha a bit more consortial ;) 09:47 ashimema I would love to see the 'IndependantBranches' mode get some love. 09:48 ashimema I always doubted they'de ever put much back in though to be honest :( 09:48 ashimema so maybe not such a lose 09:54 rangi yeah 10:23 cait i am working on the inventory patch again now - 4162 10:24 cait saw that Joubu claimed the yr index bug - avoiding qa conflicts :) 10:34 cait1 internet doesn't let me set qa contact - but on bug 12557 now 10:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12557 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Cannot revert the changes done by AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenReceived on canceling a receipt 10:42 cait hm running into a lot of problems with dbic the last days 10:42 cait wonder if it's my setup 10:42 cait could someone try and apply bug 12557 and check t/db_ependent/Acquisition/CancelReceipt.t ? 10:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12557 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Cannot revert the changes done by AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenReceived on canceling a receipt 10:45 * cait waves from a train - bad internet today 10:46 cait khall: could you take a look at the last comment on bug 12371? 10:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12371 critical, P1 - high, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Links in every patron self-registration email points to a single borrower 11:11 cait Joubu++ #updating qa script 11:11 ashimema ? 11:11 ashimema Take it i should pull qa again then ;) 11:12 cait that was the hint :) 11:14 ashimema wow.. there's just a few commit's I'de missed 11:14 ashimema 5 :s 11:14 ashimema oops 11:14 ashimema I should cron it to update my qa script nightly. 11:16 ashimema qhmm.. 11:17 ashimema though my highlight bug seems to still pass.. 11:17 ashimema should it not fail now with the prog theme checks 11:22 cait hm? 11:22 cait i think it just runs the tests on the different templates now 11:22 cait not checking if you touch the other templats as well 11:23 ashimema yeah.. I've just read the code. 11:23 ashimema it does indeed do that.. 11:23 ashimema would be good if it checked for prog/ccsr changes and failed sutff that touches them now ;) 11:24 cait i think we can add that when the files are gone 11:24 cait or your patch IS going to fail ;) 11:24 ashimema indeed.. my patch 'should' fail (except that you've now passed it, and I've spoken to tomas about it too) 11:28 cait i think as the removal is pending soon and for a new feature that shouldn't get into lower versions... it's ok 11:29 cait hm 11:30 ashimema :) 11:30 ashimema fair point. 11:35 cait @wunder wiesloch 11:35 huginn cait: The current temperature in Walldorf, Walldorf, Germany is 16.0°C (1:35 PM CEST on August 18, 2014). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 11:52 marcelr Joubu++ 12:00 cait jajm: julian? 12:00 wahanui julian is in a full week meeting 12:01 jajm cait, hi 12:01 cait looking at bug 7290 12:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7290 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , new permission for receiving 12:01 cait i was wondering if it would make sense to squash the patches - they are all from you i think? and all signed by paola 12:02 cait because first it adds the branch to aqorders and later we drop that - so it would be less confusing 12:02 marcelr Joubu: cannot find your commit on https://github.com/Koha-Community/qa-test-tools.git ? 12:03 cait jajm: and the other thing is, that the tests give me trouble :( 12:03 jajm cait, it makes sense, i'm adding this to my "to do today"'s list ;) 12:04 cait i will add a comment - i would have squashed them with your ok, but with the tests making trouble maybe it's better if you take a look 12:07 jajm cait, what do you mean by "tests give me trouve" ? 12:08 cait they fail 12:08 cait i have pasted on the bug... hopefully it saves 12:09 cait bugzilla still busy, internet sloooow on this train 12:13 Joubu marcelr: this repo is not up-to-date 12:13 marcelr should i change the repo 12:13 Joubu marcelr: you should use git.k-c.org or my github 12:13 cait oh, i think mine still points to your repo then maybe 12:14 cait ah, misread... i think mine is pointing to kc 12:14 Joubu github.com/joubu/koha-qa-test.git or git.koha-community.org/qa-test-tools.git, both are up-to-date 12:21 cait marcelr: I think i remember you had a bug with xslt and marc modification templates too somewhere - probably building on 6536? 12:23 marcelr cait: i had a discussion with ashimema about that; but these marc mod templates are for later 12:23 marcelr but these function could move to each other in the future 12:24 cait cool 12:27 cait hi Dyrcona 12:27 Dyrcona hi, cait 13:23 cait1 jajm++ - i am back on 7290 now 13:41 Joubu rebasing_patches_for_2_years-- 13:42 jcamins scheduling_things_with_more_than_two_people-- 13:44 * cait1 hopes we will have worked through the old patches at some point 13:45 Joubu We should introduced bonus point for so/qa on bug reports < 10000 13:45 Joubu -d 13:55 cait1 ashimema++ 14:59 * ashimema has finished his QA sprint for the day.. 15:00 ashimema best get back to that migration now.. 15:03 ashimema 45 bugs still in the qa queue though 15:04 ashimema I read that wrong.. 15:04 ashimema 9 bugs in the qa queue 15:04 ashimema :) 15:04 ashimema that's nicer 15:09 cait1 40 for me :) 15:09 cait1 40 including 9 bugs 15:11 ashimema mine says 39 10 Bugs 15:11 cait1 heh 15:11 ashimema assuming that means 29 patches over 10 bugs. 15:11 cait1 because you just changed something! 15:12 ashimema ok.. 15:12 cait1 but you are right 39-10 15:12 cait1 pretty good 15:12 ashimema I don't understand what they mean then.. 15:12 ashimema 39 10 Bugs.. 15:12 ashimema whats the 39.. and whats the 10? 15:13 cait1 39 in the 'needs qa' queue - where 10 of those are bugs (not enh) 15:13 ashimema bugszilla says 39 bugs to me in signed off 15:13 ashimema a.. I see.. 15:13 cait1 poor tcohen 15:13 cait1 no wonder he is hiding today :) 15:13 ashimema yeah 15:14 ashimema 185 failed QA.. 15:14 ashimema yikes 15:14 cait1 ashimema++ 15:14 cait1 but people are already filling it up again... and back we are to 40/10 15:15 ashimema damn.. people are working fast today.. 15:15 ashimema can't keep up 15:15 ashimema :( 15:19 tcohen hi 15:21 cait1 oh there he is :) 15:21 cait1 hi tcohen :) 15:23 cait1 ashimema: the queue is down from almost 90.... i think, so that's good and the nso is down from almost 200 to around 160... direction is ok 15:23 ashimema all in the right direction 15:23 ashimema hi tcohen 15:25 tcohen hi cait1 ashimema 15:26 tcohen so i forgot to push a dbix schema update? 15:27 cait1 i am not sue 15:27 cait1 i only know I can' tmake patron modification updates 15:27 cait1 i doubt it a bit, as the patch doesn't change anything and the involved tables haven't been touched in a while i think 15:27 cait1 still have to learn more about dbic to be able to tell :) 15:27 tcohen is yohann still around? 15:30 cait1 he wrote to the mailing list today - i think this week 15:30 cait1 but haven't seen him on irc 15:30 cait1 tunnels... 15:30 cait1 tcohen: i am on a train, arriving soon, so not here much longer 15:33 tcohen cait1: good, i reproduced the problem 15:33 tcohen heh 15:36 ashimema anyone here got plugins wokring in 3.14.02 at the moment.. 15:36 ashimema we can't seem to get it working 15:37 tcohen khall: around? 15:37 khall yo 15:37 cait1 that never works when i try to ping him! 15:37 cait1 :) 15:38 ashimema :) 15:38 tcohen khall: have you noticed a change in dbix behaviour related to making table names lower case? 15:39 khall not sure I know what you mean. I always name my tables lower case with underscores separating the words so this_new_table will have the result set ThisNewTable 15:40 tcohen yohann made a change in Koha::Borrower::Modifications so it uses dbic instead of plain SQL 15:40 tcohen and it seems that dbic named B_email lowercase 15:40 tcohen (all B_* columns actually) 15:42 tcohen heh 15:46 cait1 @wunder Hannover 15:46 huginn cait1: Error: No such location could be found. 15:47 cait1 @wunder Hannover, Germany 15:47 huginn cait1: The current temperature in Hannover, Wedemark, Germany is 16.4°C (5:00 PM CEST on August 18, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). 15:47 cait1 hm not too bad 15:47 cait1 tcohen: typical me then - to test the few fields where it wouldn't work 15:49 cait1 bye all :) 15:59 Joubu bye #koha 16:00 tcohen hey 16:13 tcohen bug 12781 16:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12781 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , DBIx::Class schema should preserve case for column names 16:16 tcohen bbl 16:32 * cait waves 16:50 cait @wunder hannover, germany 16:50 huginn cait: The current temperature in Hannover, Wedemark, Germany is 16.1°C (6:00 PM CEST on August 18, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising). 17:00 ashimema khall++ 18:06 jmsasse cait: hello :-) 18:09 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 18:09 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 33.0°C (3:00 PM ART on August 18, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 18:11 cait hi jmsasse :) 18:11 cait wb tcohen :) 18:11 tcohen cait: i identified the problem and filled a bug for it 18:12 tcohen i encourage people to give it some priority 18:13 cait ok :) 18:18 jmsasse @wunder 56187 18:18 huginn jmsasse: The current temperature in Worthington, Minnesota is 28.0°C (1:15 PM CDT on August 18, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). 18:37 cait khall: still around? :) 18:38 cait what i said.. nerverworks for me :) 19:01 ashimema ;) 19:01 ashimema not got the magic touch cait 19:02 cait hmpf 19:02 * ashimema runs away again 19:02 tcohen hi khall 19:03 ashimema have a nice evening cait 19:03 cait you too 19:03 ashimema bye.. 19:43 jcamins while (true) tcohen++ 19:43 tcohen ? 19:44 tcohen oh 19:44 * tcohen was focused on recent mistakes he made 19:45 jcamins Argh! My wife took my scissors and didn't put them back! 19:45 tcohen oh,so u haven't opened it yet? ;) 19:46 jcamins I just found scissors and have removed the paper wrapper. 19:46 tcohen :-D 19:46 tcohen surprise! 19:46 cait heh 19:47 cait jcamins: hurry1 19:47 jcamins Ooooooh 19:48 * tcohen wished shari was there to take a picture from jcamins' face 19:48 jcamins Sorry, I was too excited to wait for her to get home. 19:48 cait could you finally share whatyou got? :) 19:48 tcohen ehhehe 19:49 jcamins I got a CD of tango music and a beautiful mate bowl. 19:49 jcamins Two CDs of tango music, actually. :D 19:49 cait yay! 19:50 tcohen straw? 19:50 cait brb 19:50 jcamins tcohen: yeah, and the straw that goes with the bowl. :) 19:50 cait scrolling was broken 19:50 cait hope it works now :) 19:50 cait tcohen++ 19:51 tcohen jcamins: before using a new mate, we put some 'yerba' inside, with water and some whisky drops for a day 19:52 tcohen (I use whisky, other's don't) 19:52 tcohen so it doesn't taste like wood 19:52 jcamins That seems very logical. 19:52 jcamins And I have whisky, so I shall do that. 19:52 tcohen tomorrow you just empty it, clean it with water, and you're done 19:53 jcamins Oops. 19:53 tcohen maybe bgkriegel can share his initiation ritual 19:53 tcohen what jcamins? 19:53 wahanui jcamins is a spoilsport 19:53 jcamins Apparently I can't listen to music and put it on my phone at the same time. 19:53 jcamins I have 8GB of RAM in my computer. It seems to me it should've saved the song into RAM and kept playing. 19:54 * tcohen blames proprietary software 19:54 tcohen :-p 19:54 jcamins tcohen: yeah, that seems a safe bet. 19:54 tcohen enjoy it jcamins 19:54 * jcamins certainly will! 19:54 jcamins :D 19:56 tcohen http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Yerba-Mate 19:56 jcamins There we go! The music is back. :) 19:58 tcohen they are a young group of musicians 19:59 tcohen i often watch them live in buenos aires, the pianist is my wife's brother 20:01 cait isn't buenos aires quite far from cordoba? 20:02 tcohen 710Km 20:02 tcohen i go 4-6 times every year 20:04 cait :) 20:05 * tcohen loves driving, even thou he using plane more often 21:34 tcohen hi bgkriegel 21:35 bgkriegel hi tcohen :) 21:35 bgkriegel i'm a bit tired of driving, just arrived from San Juan 21:36 tcohen oh, how was your vacation? 21:36 tcohen i've been to Agua de oro 21:37 bgkriegel sweet :), Agua de Oro is beautiful 21:37 tcohen specially "El buho" heh 21:38 tcohen we have a family house there 21:38 bgkriegel :) 21:47 cait hm gold water? 21:47 tcohen yeah 21:47 tcohen it is not true, of course 21:47 tcohen heh 21:48 wizzyrea depends on the light I'd reckon. 22:03 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 22:03 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 22:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB build #62: FIXED in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12_MariaDB/62/ 22:16 eythian hi 22:17 bag heya eythian 22:17 wahanui go back to bed, eythian 22:18 eythian I should be so lucky, wahanui 22:18 wahanui eythian: i'm not following you... 22:18 tcohen hi eythian 22:19 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 22:19 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 22:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #123: FIXED in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/123/ 22:20 tcohen jenkins_koha: that's just because our unit tests are not exahustive enough 22:20 jenkins_koha tcohen did you mean me? Unknown command 'that's' 22:20 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help! 22:25 cait1 :) 22:53 pianohacker @marc 856y 22:53 huginn pianohacker: unknown tag 856y 22:53 pianohacker dammit 22:54 cait1 @marc 856u 22:54 eythian @marc 856 22:54 huginn cait1: unknown tag 856u 22:54 huginn eythian: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message) 22:54 pianohacker @help marc 22:54 huginn pianohacker: (marc look up field or field/subfield combo in MARC docs) -- eg. @marc 245 or @marc 245 a 22:54 eythian @marc 856 y 22:54 huginn eythian: Link text (Repeatable) 22:54 cait1 @marc 856 22:54 huginn cait1: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. (Repeatable) (1 more message) 22:54 pianohacker ahh kk