Time Nick Message 00:24 tcohen bye #koha 00:40 mtompset I blink and the party starts. :) 00:41 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 01:12 eythian https://metacpan.org/pod/Fuckin::Lazy <-- that's useful 01:15 pianohacker ow 01:15 pianohacker now would be a good time to head out, bye all :) 05:37 cait good morning #koha 05:37 eythian hi cait 05:37 cait hi eythian 05:37 cait staying long again? 05:37 eythian not especially 05:40 cait i have to get moving 05:41 cait we have hm. annual works outing(?) today 05:42 eythian ah, christmas party :) except in July... 05:43 eythian which makes sense given you have christmas in winter, which is a crappy time to go places. 05:43 eythian You should do something about that. 05:43 cait hm duolingo wants me to translate: your bear drinks beer 05:43 eythian haha 05:44 eythian why do you even have a bear, let alone a drunk one? 05:44 cait :P 06:54 alex_a bonjour 06:55 fridolin hie all 07:35 gaetan_B hello 07:35 wahanui bonjour, gaetan_B 08:59 ashimema morning koha 09:10 gerundio morning ashimema 09:11 gerundio has anyone ran into datetime / timezone related issues in Koha? 09:39 clrh hello 09:40 clrh I am looking for works in progress or not about EDI in Koha, if someone know something ? (trying to search into ML, wiki & others) 09:41 clrh Colin tries something bug 7736 for example 09:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7736 new feature, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Failed QA , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality 10:02 ashimema clrh 10:03 ashimema Colin's massive EDI re-write for bug 7736 is about to be submitted.. 10:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7736 new feature, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Failed QA , Edifact QUOTE and ORDER functionality 10:03 ashimema it's currently in testing with a couple of customers and being iterated upon a fair bit 10:04 ashimema I 'think' most of it is up on his github repo.. but don't quote me on that. 10:04 ashimema I'm really hoping something hits that bug very soon. 10:06 clrh yep I saw github repo 10:06 clrh great ashimema thanks 10:06 clrh do you know if there are other initiatives ? 10:07 ashimema right from the horses mouth: 10:07 ashimema 'I'm documenting the parsing modules and removing dead code.. that done folk can look at it' 10:07 clrh found this https://github.com/paddyfitz/koha/tree/EDIfact_3.4.x 10:07 ashimema so it 'feels' close to me. 10:07 ashimema paddyfitz is Marc Gavillet.. he's left ptfs europe now.. 10:07 ashimema Colins work is a complete re-write of marks work.. Marks work was 'horrible' to say the least ;) 10:08 ashimema It does however work at 3.4 10:08 ashimema though it puts edi files into the source tree.. doesn't work on anything but a source install and has some other issues. 10:09 ashimema Bywater did some work based on Marks earlier patch.. but are now also waiting for Colins re-write before continueing on it.. 10:09 ashimema I think there are also some guys in northeastern europe looking at it? 10:09 wahanui okay, ashimema. 10:09 ashimema but I've not heard from them in ages. 10:09 ashimema that's my lot ;) 10:27 gerundio http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12669 10:27 huginn 04Bug 12669: blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , "Template process failed: undef error - Invalid local time for date in time zone" 11:50 jcamins i think there? 11:50 jcamins ashimena think there? 11:50 jcamins I wonder what wahanui learned 1:45 minutes ago. 12:15 ashimema ashimema think there? 12:16 ashimema you confuse me jcamins 12:18 jcamins ashimema: wahanui learned something when you said "I think there are also..." 12:18 ashimema indeed.. 12:18 ashimema no ideawhat though ;) 12:18 jcamins So I wanted to know what. 12:19 jcamins ashimema: maybe if _you_ said "I think there?" 12:20 ashimema I think there? 12:23 jcamins Perplexing. 12:23 wahanui i heard perplexing was what it is! 12:23 jcamins lol 12:25 oleonard Hi #koha 12:31 ashimema hi oleonard 13:02 tcohen morning 13:02 nengard morning tcohen 13:03 nengard Just read your email - did I not register? Or was that a general note? I thought I had registered. 13:03 tcohen nengard: let me know any missing info 13:03 tcohen it was a general note, haven't checked really 13:03 tcohen but I know of some that didn't register and are attending 13:14 nengard okey dokey 13:14 nengard thanks! 13:47 matts ashimema, around ? 13:48 ashimema I am indeed. 13:48 matts hi :) 13:48 matts I'm trying to test the shibboleth patches in order the sign-off 13:49 ashimema fantastic! 13:49 matts :) 13:49 matts but I'm a bit confused about the configuration : it is both in koha-conf.xml *and* in system preferences. Why is that ? 13:50 ashimema Actually.. it's not. 13:50 ashimema we moved it from system prefs to the koha-conf.. 13:51 ashimema but so you didn't lose the original attribution on the early patches we left in those early commits which ar undone by later commits ;) 13:51 ashimema or at least I hope they are. 13:51 matts hmm, actually I don't think they are 13:52 matts Or I can't find where 13:53 ashimema hmm.. looks like they're removed from view.. but not actually removed from the db updates :( 13:53 ashimema well spotted.. 13:53 ashimema that needs tidying up. 13:54 matts yep, it might be confusing otherwise 13:54 ashimema certainly is confusing.. thanks for bringing my attention to it. 13:55 ashimema I'll quickly post another followup.. 13:55 ashimema gonna also squash all my commits to reduce the amount of patches in there. 13:56 jcamins Gonna squash that commit right outta your branch, and send it on its way? 13:59 jcamins (squash it out, fix it out, clean it out, and send it on its waaaaaaaaayyyyyy) 13:59 ashimema lol 14:07 ashimema matts, that should be better. 14:08 ashimema using bz to apply the patches will still result in the merge conflicts in updatedatabase though as they are two different patches to maintain attribution. 14:08 ashimema henseehnse why i've got a branch on github I'm maintaining for people if they wish to just pull from there 14:08 matts okay, will try 14:09 ashimema s/henseehnse/hense 14:09 ashimema cheers matts. 14:32 fridolin bye 14:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12649: followup to add Croatian into french <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=39e9b53b8e123060a3dc2913a3b54882b5b5767e> / Bug 12649: Add Croatian language <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=091124b44e363b5b90a664e1e7fe8fcdcfe89781> / Bug 12560: Fixing capitalisation of Item Type <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=98015e19c804c41cb 14:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12649: DBRev 3.17.00.011 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b93a6553300bf5462c1fbecdb8351b8c6a8edc61> 17:10 gaetan_B bye 17:21 jcamins @later tell wizzyrea The one disadvantage of replacing your chair with exercise ball is that when you find yourself somewhere else and forced to use a chair, particularly after 28.5 hours of dancing in the previous week, your legs get sore very quickly. 17:21 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 17:21 jcamins @later tell wizzyrea *an* exercise ball. Oy. I speaks good. 17:21 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded. 17:32 WNickC khall: I think I successfully signed off on Bog 9303 17:32 WNickC Bug 9303 that is 17:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , relative's checkouts in the opac 18:02 * cbrannon is now away - Reason : Lunch 18:42 rhcl @seen rangi 18:42 huginn rhcl: rangi was last seen in #koha 1 day, 17 hours, 28 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <rangi> yeah pre release, so yep that will be 3.15.something 18:47 eternalsword anyone ever come across an issue where you have to restart the web service for koha to see the database? 18:50 jcamins eternalsword: yes, that's one of the problems with fastcgi. 18:50 jcamins If you are using Apache, then, no, I've never heard of such a thing. 18:52 eternalsword okay, yeah, I'm using nginx + starman/plack. Is there a recommended workaround? 18:53 jcamins Not to my knowledge. You could check if there's a patch on bugzilla. 18:53 jcamins Or just restart Starman every night. 18:56 eternalsword that's what I was thinking of doing. It seemed to be a daily occurrence, but I haven't been able to verify the frequency of the issue. I guess I restart it nightly and see if the problem persists. 18:57 jcamins Actually... I feel like I saw a patch which improved the check for connectivity recently. 18:58 jcamins Take a look. 19:00 oleonard Ugh. 5 hours of meetings kind of kills a day. 19:04 rhcl http://tinyurl.com/o7rl6sp 19:06 oleonard Unshortened: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/hackers-seed-amazon-cloud-with-potent-denial-of-service-bots/ 19:10 rhcl You know, there's a bot that interprets shortened URLs. Can't come up with the name at the moment, but I 19:10 rhcl see them on other channels 19:13 oleonard I don't find much need for shortened URLs unless I actually have to hand-type one. 19:14 rhcl I pass on to other staff members quite a few links, and for them it just seems to be a convenience. 19:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: Add Prosentient Systems to contributing companies <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e65121e41599c3f809d07ee82935135aa49fe380> / Bug 9000: Followup to fix tabs & closing TT directive <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe0709477a1434e21b7ca1dda70eb5c228a9f0a9> / Bug 9000 [4] - Update to GPL v3 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff; 19:55 pianohacker I'm currently trying to solve encoding issues in Z39.50 searching ;_; where did my life go wrong 19:56 * cait waves 19:57 pianohacker you would know how to fix a double-encoding issue in a perl script, right cait? 19:57 cait pianohacker: did you see the encoding page on the wiki? not sure it's helpful but maybe something to take a look 19:57 cait pianohacker: find one of the places it's encoded and remove that? ;) 19:58 pianohacker durrrr 19:58 pianohacker teaches me not to read perl's unicode documentation 19:59 cait hm? 20:00 cait pianohacker: you know about the utf-8 clean up bug, right? 20:00 cait i hope the patches make it in soon now 20:00 pianohacker cait: I was double-encoding in a complicated way... this is for Rancor's metasearch 20:00 pianohacker that was much less painful than I expected 20:01 pianohacker how are you? 20:01 cait tired :) 20:01 cait lots of walking today 20:01 cait we visited a project where they are rebuilding a monastery with medievil tools and techniques 20:02 cait it was fun :) 20:02 pianohacker cool! 20:05 cait but very wet too 20:05 cait lots of rain 20:06 rangi morning 20:07 cait morning rangi 20:10 cbrannon So, working on creating a test computer for Koha. Is it best to install Debian under a VM, or use a dedicated machine? 20:11 jcamins cbrannon: I'd use a VM so that I didn't have a server sitting mostly-unused. 20:12 pianohacker hi rangi 20:17 nengard i use a VM too 20:17 cbrannon Does a test box need to be on server hardware, or could I just use an old desktop? Doesn't really have to PERFORM. Does it? 20:18 cait cbrannon: i have my test environment on my normal laptop 20:18 cait not in a vm in my case, but a vm makes sense 20:18 cbrannon Why VM? What is the advantage? 20:21 jcamins cbrannon: if you want to do something else, you can just shut down the VM and start a new one running different servers. 20:24 jcamins And you can move the VM to a different machine if you so desire. 20:56 jcamins rangi: is "walk the talk" an NZ thing? 20:57 jcamins It sounds like a typo to me, but you've tweeted it a few times, so I think it must be right. 20:57 rangi its a shorthand way of saying if you are going to talk the talk, you should walk the walk 20:58 jcamins Interesting. I have never heard "walk the talk" anywhere else. Just "walk the walk." 21:01 * jcamins decides to blame the fact that you lot all walk around upside down, and heads off to dance class. 21:02 cait :) 21:28 wizzyrea I've heard talk the talk, but not walk the walk. walk the talk makes sense to me, even divorced from it's origins. 21:33 cbrannon I balk at your walk the talk. 21:33 cbrannon ...now I just stalk. 22:14 cait night #koha 23:15 dcook Hmm, when I heard jcamins mention "walk the talk", I immediately about the concept behind "walk the walk and talk the talk", so I guess it works 23:15 * dcook also waves