Time Nick Message 22:06 eternalsword well, think I'll tackle this issue tomorrow. If anyone has any ideas, just address them to me. I'll either see them in the log or more likely in my scrollback buffer. 22:05 eternalsword although sometimes it's faster to reboot than to figure out all the services that need to be restarted. 22:03 eythian_ Only the kernel and dbus require a reboot 22:03 * wizzyrea mutters about ubuntu ubdates that require a reboot... it isn't *&(^%**& windows. 22:02 wizzyrea brb have to reboot 21:57 wizzyrea not that then. 21:57 eternalsword only the optional Readonly::XS 21:56 wizzyrea are you missing any? 21:56 wizzyrea in more -> about koha, click the modules tab 21:56 eternalsword I would think that would definitely throw error though. 21:55 eternalsword could I be missing perl bindings or something? 21:53 wizzyrea yep seems right 21:53 eternalsword Database: LCDB, Checked: Yes, Rank: 1, Syntax: USMARC, Encoding: utf8, Timeout: 0, Record type: biblio 21:51 wizzyrea that should be right 21:51 eternalsword lx2.loc.gov:210 21:51 wizzyrea what is the LoC hostname you are connecting to 21:50 wizzyrea his issue is ^ 21:50 eternalsword there's no error message. Just shows no results found when there should be results. 21:50 cait good nigth all 21:50 tcohen is 21:50 tcohen i'll look at the IRC logs as I dont' know what the error message ir 21:49 * tcohen agrees 21:49 eternalsword this is one of those issues that makes me want to smash something. 21:47 tcohen those "uninitialized" warnings are harmless 21:47 eternalsword yes. 21:46 tcohen and Koha sits in the same server 21:46 eternalsword yes. 21:46 tcohen eternalsword: can u use yaz-client from the command line in the Koha server to successfuly reach the z39.50 target? 21:45 eternalsword I am using starman & plack on the new system. Wonder if it's a quirk. 21:44 eternalsword looks like ne is supposed to be "not equal" not a variable. my perl is rusty and it was bad before. 21:43 eternalsword looks like this gets thrown. Use of uninitialized value in string ne at C4/Auth.pm line 750 21:40 wizzyrea yeah the intranet error log might tell you something 21:39 cait you can check if there is something int he logs 21:35 eternalsword is there a debug flag I can throw? 21:35 eternalsword no extra spaces. 21:33 wizzyrea did you double check? spaces can be insidious little buggers. 21:32 eternalsword not a typo. this is a migrated database. 21:32 wizzyrea it's still earlyish here. 21:32 wizzyrea ^ is what I meant 21:32 tcohen typo 21:32 wizzyrea since it works from the command line, 21:32 wizzyrea though I'm not sure how. 21:32 wizzyrea more likely a firewall rule at this point. 21:31 wizzyrea then it's probably a typo or a firewall rule ;) 21:31 eternalsword okay, yaz-client works on both machines. koha works on one machine. identical configuration. 21:29 * wizzyrea stops her nattering 21:25 wizzyrea which is working just fine. 21:25 wizzyrea so try lx2.loc.gov:210 21:25 wizzyrea also if you have z3950.loc.gov:7090, it's probably wrong, because they've changed the target (I just looked it up) 21:23 wizzyrea it might be buste.d 21:23 wizzyrea from one I know works. 21:23 wizzyrea though I'm having trouble currently with LoC 21:22 wizzyrea yep, also firewall 21:22 cait because of unusual ports 21:22 cait sometimes also firewall 21:21 wizzyrea or something like that 21:21 wizzyrea or it's unimarc instead of marc21 21:21 wizzyrea if all of that works, then you probably have a typo or a space in your z39.50 definitions in Administration -> z39.50 targets 21:20 wizzyrea then f your query 21:20 wizzyrea base LCDB 21:19 eternalsword yaz client connected fine. how would I do a lookup to test? 21:18 wizzyrea yaz-client z3950.loc.gov:7090 21:18 wizzyrea if it doesn't work there, it won't work from koha 21:18 wizzyrea you can use yaz client to see if you can connect to the target from the command line 21:17 cait administration > z39.50 targets 21:17 eternalsword same LoC configuration. 21:17 cait are both targets set up the same? 21:17 eternalsword where should one look to debug z39.50 lookups? from koha to LoC. I have an older system that works (3.11.00.026) and a newer that shows no results (3.17.00.009) 21:16 wizzyrea hi 21:16 cait hi wizzyrea :) 21:15 wizzyrea usually it comes from copy/pasting from word 21:15 wizzyrea oleonard - we've seen crashy records with non-ascii characters as well 21:10 cait bag: around? 20:50 * cait waves 19:11 oleonard I wonder how 19:09 jcamins I'd think it should. 19:09 jcamins It took two minutes for the screenshot to load. 19:09 jcamins Oh, I see what you mean. 19:07 oleonard No, the bug I just closed was for a problem where it always said "en-GB" no matter which English sublanguage was chosen 19:07 jcamins oleonard: isn't that the bug you just closed? 19:06 oleonard http://www.screencast.com/t/0uWSrEapz3vf 19:06 oleonard If a sub-language is chosen the menu doesn't indicate which translation is active. Should it? 17:50 * cait-m__ waves again 17:41 Dyrcona :) 17:35 jcamins Dyrcona: darn, that was a missed opportunity for feeling good about myself! 16:31 Dyrcona jcamins: At least you didn't write the tests so that they always pass, right? ;) 16:12 tcohen jcamins: good idea 16:04 jcamins I think from now on I'll listen to quickstep music when writing unit tests. 15:58 tcohen petter++ 15:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12592 - Minor correction for C4::DelBiblio documentation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbc0462a73407116ad9029f4555f6a2f4e817587> 15:36 gaetan_B bye! 15:28 reiveune bye 15:27 cait-m__ boarding 15:25 cait-m__ :) 15:21 tcohen its awesome 15:21 jcamins Sure, the code doesn't do anything useful right now because all it does is pass unit tests, but there's a wonderful feeling of accomplishment as the red 'x's turn into green 'o's. 15:20 jcamins It's glorious. 15:20 jcamins *them 15:20 * jcamins is writing unit tests, then writing code that will pass it. 15:20 druthb yep. 15:19 liw druthb: ah, you have a chaser of Iceland, I see 15:18 druthb I'm writing unit tests on a 17-year-old codebase that was, in fact, originally developed by a 15-year-old. Who is now the 32-year old CEO of the company. Much pain and suffering. 15:18 cait-m__ dont discourage devs plz :) 15:17 druthb s/Building/Building, through a skinny, skinny straw/; 15:17 cait-m__ :) 15:17 tcohen heh 15:16 liw I like writing unit tests, but only if I'm writing them for a clean code base and for code that doesn't exist yet, or changes to be made; writing unit tests afterwards is like trying to drink the Empire State Building 15:15 druthb liw: You'd like it even more if I was writing unit tests for *Koha.* But I'm not. 15:15 tcohen (not writing them, but having them :-P) 15:15 tcohen we all love unit tests 15:15 druthb You know, writing unit tests is like hitting your hand with a hammer, over and over. It feels so very good to *stop*. 15:14 liw druthb++ (unit tests are almost as heart-warming as backups) 15:14 * druthb waves to nengard, and goes back to writing unit tests. 15:14 nengard hiya druthb and all i missed 15:13 tcohen hi druthb 15:12 * druthb waves to tcohen, who shouldn't be here, too. 15:12 * druthb waves to cait-m__ 15:12 cait-m__ :) 15:11 tcohen i am 15:10 cait-m__ bec you said so :) 15:09 tcohen why? :-) 15:09 cait-m__ tcohen: arent you on vacation? 15:07 cait-m__ thx :) 15:06 tcohen good luck 15:06 cait-m__ travelling this afternoon 15:06 cait-m__ its tomorrow 15:06 tcohen cait-m__: hi :-D how is it going? 15:00 cait-m__ answering questions mostly :) 14:59 cait-m__ koha workshop with a library 14:59 oleonard Where are you going cait-m__ ? 14:56 * cait-m__ waves from the airport 14:55 tcohen so, two bugs 14:54 oleonard If I try to manually edit an item record to add that character the add item process fails: :18: parser error : PCDATA invalid Char value 30 14:53 tcohen don't see it 14:52 oleonard Looks like it might be this: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%1E 14:52 tcohen and it broke 14:52 tcohen oleonard: it happened to us once, a library used '&' in the itemcallnumber 14:52 oleonard tcohen: I'll see if I can reproduce it in my test system 14:51 wahanui rumour has it logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ 14:51 tcohen oleonard: logs? 14:50 nengard sorry ... so tired this week 14:50 nengard wait it was a \ 14:49 nengard which isn't non-ascii .... 14:49 nengard it was a / 14:49 nengard I saw it on a bib record 14:49 oleonard In my system I find it in itemcallnumber. It shows up as one of those weird character boxes. 14:48 oleonard Has anyone run across this before? 14:48 oleonard http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=152618 14:47 oleonard There is a certain non-ascii character (or characters?) which, when found in an item record, causes the detail page to crash (Error 500) 14:26 tcohen bye bye tmpl 14:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11349: (qa follow-up) Fix pod <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f052756e3bf430040412badc02107aa28c7a543> / Bug 11349: Make the QA script happy <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=23239572507dd84dc428f72b3f5cb34ce7633286> / Bug 11349: Remove unnecesary name translation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2a650d12465fa4082e8bbe1a221 14:24 tcohen is it possible to make bugzilla show "Bug #: " instead of "Bug # - # ? 14:06 oleonard Joubu: Yes 13:45 Joubu I am going to check on a production machine 13:44 Joubu but not sure it's relevant, since I used it for testing 13:44 Joubu nengard: but I have some "0" for aqorders.budget_id in my DB test 13:43 nengard seems like an oversight ... 13:41 Joubu but maybe it is archeological 13:40 Joubu (it's mandatory in the interface, on creating an order) 13:40 Joubu IMO it should 13:40 Joubu Does someone know why aqorders.budget_id is not linked (FK) to aqbudget.budget_id? 13:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Columns configuration for tables 13:29 Joubu oleonard: do you think you could find some time to test/so bug 10212? 13:26 tcohen hm 13:26 huginn tcohen: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 17 weeks, 2 days, 1 hour, 10 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <dpavlin> on current master, it seems that zebra search in opac dies with ZOOM error 20003 "can't set prefix query" - is there existing bug for that? 13:26 tcohen @seen dpavlin 13:18 marcelr hi oleonard 13:15 oleonard Hi #koha 13:09 nengard hi all 13:05 rhcl It's morning 12:52 tcohen mrning 11:08 huginn cait: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 11:08 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 11:08 cait @quote get 123 11:00 cait marcelr++ 10:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Z3950 Search Enhancements: SRU targets and additional XSLT processing 10:54 marcelr bug 6536 is ready for takeoff 08:45 cait s 08:45 cait Reseveneedsreturn 08:45 cait i think i foudn the one i was thining about 08:41 cait i thought we had a pref, but can't find it 08:40 cait does someone know if it's possible that an item on the shelf goes directly into waiting status? 07:48 Joubu (s/booke/bokeh) 07:48 petter I'm just evaluating it now, I haven't started doing anything yet 07:47 petter Great, good to know :) 07:47 Joubu petter: yes, of course. We use it! 07:46 Joubu petter: if you have patches, you can sent them to someone at BibLibre, jajm will have a look 07:46 petter so you will likely continue to maintain it and update it? 07:44 Joubu petter: with weeke, booke and others applications needing Koha's information. 07:42 petter In cojunction with Drupal? 07:42 petter So how do you use koha-restfull? 07:41 petter sure 07:41 Joubu 3/ It is quite difficult to integrate stuff in master (delay, rebase, etc.) 07:41 wahanui hello, gaetan_B 07:41 gaetan_B hello 07:41 Joubu petter: there are some reasons: 1/ it's only tested on 3.10 and 3.12. 2/ There are not enought unit test to prove it will work for all futur versions 07:40 cait not sure, could it move to the standard repo, contribs or the like maybe? 07:40 petter ok, good to know 07:40 Joubu petter: we don't plan to include koha-resful in Koha 07:39 petter but unless svc it actually has test coverage :) 07:39 petter yes that's a valid concern off course 07:38 cait my only worry is that it's separate from Koha righ tnow, so not sure how up to date and if it needs to get updated with changes made etc. 07:38 cait I haven't taken a look at it yet, so that's better questions for Joubu i think 07:37 petter which can easily be expanded 07:37 petter its much more complete and has a good organization 07:36 petter sure, but wouldnt it be better to ditch svc in favor for koha-restfull? 07:36 cait not sure it counts... but i'd love to see the svc extended as we use it for ILL :) 07:35 petter The reason I'm asking is because I though to add some functionality to the svc endpoint, but I think koha-restull is a much better basis to build on 07:34 petter Will it be included in Koha? 07:34 petter What are your plans? 07:34 petter So I was wondering about koha-restful 07:33 Joubu petter: yep 07:33 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-about-Reading-Railroad-Books/dp/0448421658 07:33 cait Joubu: ping? 07:22 petter Any Biblibre people here? 07:07 petter hi cait! 07:07 yohann hi cait 07:07 cait hi yohann and hi petter :) 07:07 petter hello koha 07:01 cait bonjour alex_a 07:01 alex_a bonjour 06:57 marcelr :) 06:56 cait i saw you are working on sru again, that's nice 06:56 cait hi marcelr :) 06:56 marcelr hi cait 06:55 cait good morning #koha 06:47 marcelr hi #koha 06:39 reiveune hello 06:33 wahanui i heard morning was a state of the cait 06:33 ashimema Morning.. 05:41 dcook Ain't that always the way 05:38 eythian discovered a few points where things work differently to what I thought 05:36 dcook Truth is good 05:36 dcook Mmm, that's always handy 05:34 eythian but I need to do a lot of research to make sure I'm saying correct things 05:34 eythian dry, but short :) 05:34 eythian how GPG and debian packaging interact 05:33 dcook Sweet. What are you going to talk about? 05:33 eythian yeah, it is 05:33 eythian right now I'm working on a talk that I'm giving tomorrow 05:33 dcook MARC is a bit traumatic 05:33 eythian they all blend into one 05:33 * dcook says with no real reference at all to "before" 05:33 eythian I'm not sure 05:33 dcook Same one as before or new one? 05:32 eythian temorarily on hold while I work on a migration 05:32 dcook eythian: How is ElasticSearch going? 05:30 dcook We like working as a team :D 05:30 eythian man, I'm never that helpful to myself 05:30 dcook self: "Oh...yeah...that would do it..." 05:29 dcook dcook: "It's probably because you commented out that code." 05:29 dcook self: "Why isn't that email address updating!?" 04:56 rangi hey cait 04:56 * cait waves at rangi too 04:55 rangi Francesca: <li class="current_page_item"></li> 04:47 eythian there seems to only be one child left. 04:47 cait hi eythian and dcook 04:47 eythian hi cait 04:44 dcook heya cait, irma 04:44 * cait waves 04:43 * dcook takes a look at letter.pl and shudders 04:14 * wizzyrea flags that for later 04:12 eythian make sure you watch past 1:30 04:11 eythian http://youtu.be/w-0TEJMJOhk 03:12 dcook Mmm, I'm thinking yes...not part of Koha.. 03:11 * dcook wonders if that's from a third-party app... 03:11 dcook Except I have data that says that it does... 03:11 dcook Unless I'm missing something, it seems to never be used 03:11 dcook Hmm, I don't think issues.issuingbranch is a thing anymore... 02:07 eythian http://i.imgur.com/RPsqjUb.jpg <-- the future 01:51 eythian "Scattered Clouds" my butt 01:51 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (1:30 PM NZST on July 17, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 01:51 eythian @wunder nzwn 00:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11349 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Patch doesn't apply , PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove .tmpl -> .tt translation 00:14 dcook bug 11349