Time Nick Message
23:27 pianohacker bye all
23:25 wizzyrea nw
23:24 aleisha cool thanks heaps
23:21 wizzyrea then hopefully you'll have many things with items and barcodes in your catalogue
23:21 wizzyrea and click "import into catalogue"
23:21 wizzyrea then click manage staged records
23:20 wizzyrea click "stage for import"
23:18 wizzyrea select that file
23:18 wizzyrea then go to tools -> stage marc records for import
23:18 wizzyrea file -> save
23:18 wizzyrea https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wizzyrea/Scripts-and-Things/master/MARC21.mrc
23:16 wizzyrea could grab and import a marc file with some items on it, I have one
23:16 rangi if its still not working, there might be no barcodes in there, in which case we can skip to something else
23:12 aleisha cool thank you
23:11 rangi in reports, if you go to the home page
23:11 aleisha where can i find saved sql reports?
23:10 wizzyrea but I can see why no one would want to touch that.
23:10 wizzyrea seems a biggish oversight.
23:10 wizzyrea I guess I had not realised that the issue stats pages were largely untranslatable.
23:08 wizzyrea into your file, that is
23:07 wizzyrea select barcode from items where barcode is not null limit 10 -> add this to saved sql reports then you can just copy paste it from the result
23:07 aleisha okay i'll try
23:06 rangi ahh bummer, then you might have to open gedit and put a few in a file and save that and use that as the barcode file
23:06 aleisha i dont think you can
23:03 rangi i think you should be able to just type a few in
23:02 rangi hmm not sure
23:02 aleisha rangi is it necessary to use a barcode file?
22:56 rangi sweet
22:56 aleisha yep
22:52 rangi does it make sense?
22:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9667 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Inventory scrolling to top with every click
22:47 rangi bug 9667
22:47 rangi hey aleisha, got one to sign off, then have some easy bugs to fix if you want
22:21 wahanui hola, eythian
22:21 eythian hi
19:56 cait hi pianohacker, bye khall_away :)
19:55 pianohacker hi cait
19:47 tcohen bye #koha
19:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10519: (followup) unit tests leave problematic cruft <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=abd6de7da1f5c33694fc4a29a4e7f7f6aa2c222e> / Bug 10519: (followup) Fix context for evalyating $borrowernumber <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c6fde24e85c605294d2aa327dcd46b0139b1055> / Bug 10519: Suggestions: 'Organize by' and correct display of tab descriptions broken <h
19:40 pianohacker hallo
19:33 tcohen we'll see :-P
19:32 cait ah.. now i was too slow agian
19:31 tcohen bye!
19:29 oleonard Bye #koha
19:29 * oleonard will have to finish it tomorrow
19:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12542 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Tabs inconsistency in different circ-menu.inc uses
19:28 oleonard In the meantime I have a patch almost ready for Bug 12542
19:24 tcohen and have some plugin tell instead
19:24 tcohen oleonard: my guess is that each .pl shouldn't be calculating what needs to tell .tt to show
19:23 oleonard There must be a solution with some T:T wizardry that I have yet to master.
19:22 oleonard This thing with having both circ-menu.inc and circ-menu.tt has gone on too long
19:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11382 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , patron left menu on purchase suggestions tab not showing all info
19:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12542 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Tabs inconsistency in different circ-menu.inc uses
19:22 oleonard I keep having to fix Bug 12542 and Bug 11382
19:21 cait thx tcohen
19:21 cait cool
19:20 tcohen cait, i'm writing a small followup for Suggestions.t and we're done
19:15 cait and yes, suggest_status allows you to make your own
19:15 cait status..es?
19:15 cait i guess the new code made it hsow up, as it looks for non-standard statues
19:14 cait and it uses a non-existant status
19:14 cait it doesn't clean up
19:14 cait i complained abou tthat once :)
19:14 cait oh right
19:14 tcohen it's
19:13 tcohen its t/db_dependent/Suggestions.t fault
19:12 tcohen ok
19:12 tcohen mine is empty, but I have a sample suggestion on the DB, with STALLED
19:12 tcohen is it the SUGGEST_STATUS one?
19:10 cait i thought that was a custom one
19:10 cait stalled is irritating me right now
19:09 cait i have never seen stalled
19:09 cait oh
19:09 cait hm i don't think htere is a default for the extra suggestion tabs
19:09 tcohen hm, it might be related to a suggestion i filled with the db user
19:09 tcohen (before, it was Unknown)
19:08 tcohen I'm using the default values, this is after the patch
19:08 cait is that before and after the patch?
19:08 cait oh because the 0 shows up...
19:07 cait i think it doensn't look wrong, but i am not sure what i am looking for
19:07 cait is the descriotion STALLED or the code?
19:07 cait how does your authorizd value look like?
19:07 tcohen 10519
19:07 cait it depends
19:06 tcohen (STALLED(0))
19:06 tcohen http://snag.gy/PG24v.jpg
19:06 tcohen does this look correct to you?
19:06 tcohen cait
19:05 cait oleonard++ :)
18:40 oleonard Thanks tcohen :)
18:38 * tcohen sends oleonard cookies (in the absense of cait)
18:01 oleonard Thanks for looking mtompset I felt like I needed a sanity check
18:00 mtompset -- well, I didn't check if a fix is required, but you get the idea.
18:00 mtompset I think you are correct, oleonard. I think the direction of dependency is wrong. 12561 requires a fix in the XSLT, before the non-XSLT in question for 2619 can be removed.
17:51 mtompset In a bizzare kind of way, 2619 sounds related to 11881.
17:51 mtompset Sorry. :)
17:50 oleonard Oh hey thanks for not answering my question or talking at all while I was away y'all can talk again now.
17:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2619 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Turning on XSLTResultsDisplay preference turns off item detail display
17:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12561 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Omnibus: Deprecate non-XSLT detail and result views
17:15 oleonard Shouldn't Bug 12561 depend on rather than block Bug 2619, 5229, etc.?
16:21 mtompset Ah.
16:19 tcohen the scripts that launch the unit tests (on all nodes) weren't covering all unit test files
16:18 tcohen but somehow
16:18 tcohen not exactly
16:17 mtompset is this related to your debian squeeze, wheezy, 12.04 and 14.04 thing a while back?
16:16 * tcohen is happy jenkins is running *all* the tests now
16:13 mtompset That's what the second patch is for, to keep the defaults. :)
16:13 tcohen and i'm not sure we use CamelCase for class names
16:13 tcohen mtompset: don't change the default, just add the spans
16:03 mtompset No, I'm working on it, because I don't like failed QA beside my name. :P
16:02 tcohen i wouldn't change the default behaviour
16:02 oleonard mtompset: You're working on this because it is a change your library would like to see?
16:02 tcohen you should ask oleonard i guess
15:59 mtompset The former, linebreaks (or not -- default), and the latter labels (or not-- default).
15:59 mtompset Yes.
15:58 tcohen and LabelCallNumber
15:58 tcohen CommasWithLinebreaks which seems to wrap the whole thing
15:57 tcohen you're adding two spans
15:57 mtompset Beer googles again, tcohen? ;)
15:56 tcohen (kidding, it was an idiomatic mistake)
15:56 tcohen my glasses are doing wrong
15:56 mtompset I'm not sure what you mean.
15:55 tcohen mtompset: i see it wrong
15:46 mtompset with the call number being a specific case of whether it is labelled or not.
15:46 mtompset Because these are the item details displayed in the OPAC search results.
15:45 mtompset results-itemdetails?
15:45 mtompset itemdetails-results?
15:45 tcohen swap(stuff, wrapped)
15:44 tcohen stuff wrapped + context
15:44 mtompset item-details, item-callnumber?
15:42 tcohen now we are removing non-xslt view, maybe detail-callnumber
15:40 mtompset But I suppose xslt-callnumber might be an okay rename for the latter.
15:39 mtompset LabelCallNumber was the other class name I went with.
15:39 oleonard Other people might want to use the class name as a hook to style it in another way, with color or font
15:39 mtompset The problem is it wraps more than just the call number.
15:38 oleonard mtompset: I don't. The class name should refer to what it wraps, not what you want it to do.
15:37 tcohen xslt-callnumber?
15:36 mtompset Not sure people will like "CommasWithLinebreaks" as a class name. ;)
15:35 tcohen mtompset++
15:35 mtompset Well, the prog-side of the patch is done, but untested. :)
15:30 tcohen heh
15:27 oleonard In France I think. Germany is probably just hung over (not cait of course :) )
15:25 oleonard Not here in USA
15:20 tcohen north hemisphere == holiday?
14:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11744: Add regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3dcb153a28fcdc268d1b8fc2efae5c2bd91c1fb1> / Bug 11744: A receipt should not be cancelled if holds exist <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e94528ef7274a4a8f47a0218af43cc8bf8e5e19b> / Bug 11744: Cancel a receipt does not delete items created on receiving <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.
14:35 tcohen several dependent ones are already passed-qa
14:34 tcohen awesome
14:34 oleonard Soon? :)
14:34 tcohen oleonard: do u have some schedule for submitting the patch that removes ccsr and prog?
14:25 ashimema fair point
14:24 ashimema hehe
14:24 mtompset Exploding would mean that I suddenly didn't understand again. I do have those kind of moment, but this isn't one of them. :)
14:24 * ashimema envisions the light bulb above mtompset's head just getting so bright that it exploded
14:23 mtompset Got it, understand it, will implement it.
14:23 mtompset AH!
14:22 tcohen \o/
14:22 ashimema team work ;)
14:22 tcohen :-D
14:22 ashimema for tcohen's example.
14:22 ashimema then in css you could just put ".brd { display: block; }"
14:21 ashimema lol.. what he said.
14:21 ashimema <p><span>line1</span><span>line2</span></p> like
14:21 tcohen mtompset: a good dample would be <span class="brd">Something1</span><span class="brd">Something2</span>
14:21 oleonard No brs no \ns
14:20 mtompset because I thought we were having no brs.
14:20 ashimema I'de like to see a stricter rule on what prefs are librarian changable i.e. from the staff cleint, and what prefs are admin changable.. i.e. in the conf.xml file.
14:20 oleonard Why are we talking about \n's mtompset?
14:19 mtompset Hard coded \n's always become same line whitespace.
14:19 ashimema jumping in on the 'too many sysprefs' row.
14:19 mtompset I'm trying a general case without code changes.
14:19 oleonard Can you paste the template change you're testing with?
14:18 mtompset oleonard: I can't get such a CSS to work.
14:10 tcohen ^^^^^^^exactly
14:10 mtompset Right...
14:10 oleonard (actually you don't add any style at all, but make a note in the patch what style could be added if desired)
14:09 tcohen mtompset: your's would be a followup that achieves the same, better
14:09 oleonard Then you style that class with "display:block" to make it go on its own line without a <br>
14:09 tcohen the point of the span is that you can style it with display:block and have the same result
14:09 oleonard You wrap the output you want on separate lines in a <span> with a special class.
14:09 mtompset But the br is part of the reason the person put in the bug report.
14:08 mtompset (too lazy to type </span>)
14:08 tcohen forget about the <br>
14:08 mtompset (pseudo, not actual)
14:08 mtompset So would I <span>,<span><br> with the two spans being different classes?
14:07 tcohen i mean, add the spans so it can be achieved using just CSS
14:06 mtompset I was thinking about it, since I don't like "Failed QA" associate with me. :P
14:06 mtompset I agree we have too many to sift through for a new library.
14:05 tcohen mtompset: will u work on a followup implementing oleonard's suggestions?
13:58 nengard that's why i do that for all our partners at training :) hehe
13:57 nengard true
13:57 oleonard We have "too many" in the sense that it is cumbersome (I imagine) for a new library to sift through them all
13:57 nengard :)
13:57 oleonard True nengard.
13:56 nengard ^^ is not in reference to the bug - just in general
13:56 nengard oleonard I don't agree that we have 'too many' - the more we have the more options people have and I see that as a good thing ... just saying :)
13:56 tcohen +1
13:54 oleonard Customization options are there for people to be able to make Koha work they way they want it to. Let's make the page structure work for this customization without foisting the proposed design on everyone.
13:53 oleonard We already have too many system preferences. We don't need one for something like this.
13:53 tcohen np
13:53 mtompset tcohen: Consolences on the loss. ;)
13:52 mtompset Wouldn't a system preference be better?
13:52 mtompset The line is identical except all the commas are replaced by <br /> instead of ,.
13:51 mtompset How does "Wrap the individual library lines in a span which can be made "display:block" in custom CSS." apply to using a comma vs. a line break?
13:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11881 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Small improvements in OPAC results list.
13:50 mtompset Greeting, oleonard. I have a seriously delayed question for you regarding bug 11881
13:50 wahanui salut, oleonard
13:50 oleonard Hi
13:50 mtompset Greetings, tcohen. :)
13:50 mtompset oleonard: *ping*
13:50 tcohen hi mtompset
13:50 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:08 cait and if somthing is really bad... someone might complain about closing those
13:08 cait ah - i thought so too - noone is going to touch them really
13:08 cait i got a little worried that my bug closing frenzy went a bit too far
13:07 oleonard cait: Yes. I hesitated because some could theoretically be fixed in stable. However, I doubt that will really happen.
13:07 cait oleonard: I hope it was ok i closed the ccsr bugs?
13:05 * oleonard supposes many are not around to hear it
13:05 tcohen :-D
13:04 oleonard Bonne fête Nationale to all my French friends
12:38 tcohen indded
12:38 cait yeah, but it was a good game
12:37 tcohen but that's how this game is
12:37 tcohen chances
12:37 tcohen i, we weren't lucky enough, had our chaces
12:36 cait but ... happy it was us :)
12:36 cait thx! it was a loong game, I think either team could have won
12:36 tcohen hi cait, and congratulations!
12:35 cait hi tcohen
12:35 * cait waves
12:26 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8773 - Start per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eed7f263d0a3a2380d9ca35ce3ab26dbadd1da22> / Bug 12265: [QA Follow-up] - Improve usage of find <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=56ffda0a703b5d42540c56eafb8d226c0ebf18ad> / Bug 12265: [QA Follow-up] Replace DBIx search by find <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
12:26 oleonard Hi everyone
12:16 tcohen morning francharb
12:09 francharb Good morning #koha
12:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12534 - PROG/CCSR deprecation: Make getlanguages() theme independent for opac <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3c7068709177408af59fb4e9538f623ba945a18> / Bug 12470: (followup) License statement missing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=61dc0ab223aa2a3e83bf980cd5616a325e03871a> / Bug 12470: adding unit tests for the routines CheckValidBarCode and CheckIfIssu
11:53 khall marcelr: thanks for the followup!
11:52 marcelr khall++
11:40 tcohen hi marcelr
11:39 marcelr hi tcohen
11:35 wahanui i heard morning was a state of cat
11:35 tcohen morning!
10:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12265 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Improve Z39.50 servers administration (incl DBIx)
10:52 marcelr on bug 12265
10:52 marcelr hi khall: i submitted a followup for your qa suggestion
10:44 huginn slef: The operation succeeded.
10:44 slef @later tell paul_p are you aware of #ifla #wlic2014 in Lyon in Aug? Seems an odd time for a conference in FR (Aug is holidays, no?) but what do I know?
08:43 cait :)
08:43 atheia Good morning cait!
08:41 marcelr hi cait1 and #koha
08:40 cait1 hi atheia, marcelr and ashimema
07:19 cait1 good night dcook
07:18 dcook night time, cait1
06:53 cait1 good morning #koha
05:04 cait i will see if i can catch mtompset
05:02 dcook They would probably be good people to ask
05:02 dcook I think Bywater folk use LDAP
05:01 eythian I thought mtompsett has LDAP set up
05:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8148 critical, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Signed Off , ldap authentication should FAIL if ldap contains NEW password, and user types the PREVIOUS password
05:01 wahanui bug 8148 is kind of related
05:01 eythian bug 8148
05:01 eythian I've generally used prod servers to test LDAP, I don't have a testing one set up
04:59 cait i am still looking for someone to give 8148 another sign off so i can passit
04:58 cait hm
04:58 eythian not really
04:58 cait eythian: can you test ldap things?
04:53 dcook Me too. It should just work :/
04:53 cait but ... i will again. this one is really confusing me.
04:52 cait i did vary my searches a bit, but didn#t see much difference really
04:52 dcook cait: no worries. I would try a really common word and see what happens
04:51 cait dcook: i need more records in my database i think - thx for ocmmenting,...i will give it another try
04:49 cait hi eythian :)
04:49 eythian hi cait
04:48 * cait waves
03:25 eythian which I suppose is less of a joke now the product doesn't exist...
03:24 eythian BobB: you missed "Microsoft Worksâ„¢"
03:20 dcook ;)
03:20 BobB lunch now :)
03:19 BobB 'military intelligence' is the other one
03:19 BobB dcook 'postal worker' is one of the famous examples for oxymoron
00:34 eythian may also be an option.
00:33 dcook I think we also need a better front yard...
00:32 dcook hehe
00:32 eythian I think you need a better postie
00:31 dcook Guess I can't give them too much of a hard time. It must be a back-breaking job at times...
00:31 dcook Or next to it
00:31 dcook We also get letters on top of our post box even when it's empty
00:30 eythian heh
00:30 * dcook thinks the postal workers like to troll the neighbourhood
00:30 dcook Even though our front yard is a disaster zone and theirs is immaculate with a very nice post box and big bright numbers
00:30 dcook Of course, we still get mail for the house right next to us
00:30 dcook Probably
00:30 dcook As I imagined it's sorted via the code?
00:30 eythian I presume redundancy
00:29 dcook I've often wondered about point of putting city, province or suburb state if a postcode is there
00:29 eythian (unless you're buying something from a place that insists you fill out the state box.)
00:28 eythian I think here postcode goes after city, but we don't really use regions in addresses.
00:28 dcook In Canada, it's: Street Number Street \n City, Province \n Postcode \n Country
00:28 dcook In Australia, we do: Street Number Street \n Suburb State Postcode \n Country
00:27 dcook Everyone just has to be different...:p
00:27 dcook 74001 PARIS
00:27 dcook 11 Rue du GENERAL DE GAULLE
00:27 dcook Building A
00:27 dcook Person NAME
00:25 eythian "rue"
00:25 eythian Yeah, France has the number first, then the street type
00:25 wahanui type is used for some things, like how to convert it when saving, and things like that.
00:25 dcook type?
00:25 dcook I think their post codes come before their city though
00:25 rangi ah no they just do the type first
00:25 dcook Not France
00:25 rangi yeah i think they do
00:25 dcook Nope
00:25 dcook France might too. I remember there being something different when I was writing French addresses...
00:24 * dcook ponders
00:24 dcook Yikes..
00:24 eythian dcook: it's not that unusal, parts of Europe do it that way (I know .nl does, possible .de too.)
00:23 rangi yeah
00:23 eythian http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/10264458/Coffin-found-floating-in-Hutt-River <-- not smart
00:16 rangi :)
00:15 * dcook shuts up before he spirals into a monologue about addresses
00:15 dcook Mind you, I guess you read the address from the bottom up in a way
00:15 * dcook loves when he encounters things that he considers "weird"...but are actually more logical than "normal".
00:14 dcook Hm
00:14 dcook Actually, that makes a certain amount of sense...
00:14 dcook O_o
00:13 rangi some places do road first, number after
00:13 rangi makes localising easier
00:11 * dcook was also wondering why Koha has a "street number" field
00:07 Dyrcona Whee! Three hundred eight lines of code (including comments) just to initialize itself.