Time Nick Message 22:26 wahanui bonjour, eythian 22:26 eythian hi 19:41 mtompset Bye, tcohen. :) 19:38 tcohen bye #koha, have a nice day/night 19:23 cait nothing, just looking it up :) 19:23 tcohen what about it cait 19:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable 19:20 wahanui rumour has it bug 11703 is waiting for an answer, I started QA on it :) 19:20 cait bug 11703 19:08 mtompset once I do it, then it will get written, because then it will be more concrete in my mind. 19:07 cait that works for me too :) 19:07 cait aah 19:07 cait my offer: write up a stpe for step for the dumb (like me tonight after a long day) and i will test it :) 19:07 mtompset I have a hard time describing it. 19:07 mtompset Looks like I'll just have to test my scenario, since 19:07 mtompset got your message, cait. 19:06 cait what's your time? 19:06 cait hm.... 21 here... so i missed it :) 19:06 tcohen ah, we call "tarde" from 16 to 19/20 I guess 19:04 cait i guess it's somewhat correct as it's later here than where you are... hopfully 19:03 cait buenas tardes (?) 19:03 tcohen hi cait 19:01 * cait waves 18:14 gaetan_B bye 18:02 bgkriegel hi mtompset 18:00 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 17:57 tcohen awesome 17:57 gmcharlt tcohen: ^^ 17:56 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "script for updating DBIC class files" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/80 17:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: 9245 Fixes visual bux with fines tab not highlighting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fea21b16abb16b2d690f500c733a8a21211ab205> / Bug 11030 - Add 359, 947 and 969 fields in french unimarc_complete framework - followup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef5d4f3c62957100dae0948a44bd27a2159892b4> / Bug 11030 : add fields 947,969,359 in unimarc_complete french frame 16:36 huginn mle: The operation succeeded. 16:36 mle @later tell cait thank you again 16:08 bag morning tcohen 16:08 tcohen morning bag 16:03 bag good morning 16:02 smrt jcamins: ok thanks 16:00 jcamins Probably not, but assume they will be. 16:00 smrt tcohen, jacamins, wahanui: Oh sorry one more question, if i add completely new files to the koha folders will those get deleted with the updates? 15:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12429 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , patron seeing fines codes 15:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11650 normal, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Master , multiplicated authorities after link_bibs_to_authorities.pl 15:59 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 12429 [OPAC] patron seeing fines codes 15:59 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 12429 [staff client] patron seeing fines codes 15:59 jenkins_koha * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 11650: multiplicated authorities after link_bibs_to_authorities.pl 15:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #48: FAILURE in 1 min 5 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/48/ 15:57 tcohen u r welcome 15:56 smrt tcohen, jcamins, wahanui: Well I guess i have some reading to do, thanks for all your help 15:55 reiveune bye 15:54 tcohen smrt: no problem! 15:51 smrt tcohen, jcamins: In case you haven't already noticed i'm not a programmer, just a library tech with decent google skills 15:50 tcohen smrt: http://git-scm.com/book 15:50 smrt tcohen, jcamins: so is git something that anyone can learn? ive just googled git tutorials, should those be enough? or am i getting way way out of my league? 15:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12429 [OPAC] patron seeing fines codes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e8cf86df748c2ea59f7b200176ca940d6a0d0c1> / Bug 12429 [staff client] patron seeing fines codes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eed44299d383caa5b263036dd204a966bdcb3688> / Bug 11650: multiplicated authorities after link_bibs_to_authorities.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koh 15:48 smrt tcohen, jcamins: hah yeah i was about to ask 15:48 tcohen oh :-D 15:48 jcamins tcohen: yeah, but they won't help on CentOS. 15:47 tcohen smrt, jcamins: we have nice instructions here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way 15:44 jcamins What you should be doing is building a tar ball using "git archive" and then installing from that. 15:43 jcamins No. 15:43 smrt jcamins: oh i guess i should mention that we installed koha on a CentOS server (our server admins don't really like debian/ubuntu) from source. would that tutorial work for us? 15:43 jcamins It's not all that simple, unfortunately. 15:41 jcamins There should be a link to the instructions for building packages there. 15:41 wahanui it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 15:41 jcamins packages? 15:40 smrt jcamins: I think I'm kind of doing that. we have a local machine that we do all our testing on, and then if it works there we go to the production server and make the changes there. I still need to learn how to make our own packages though. Any tutorials you can point me to? or is it a little too complicated than just reading a simple tutorial online? 15:37 jcamins smrt: make your change in a version-controlled environment, test thoroughly, then build packages with your changes and use those packages in production. 15:36 smrt jcamins: yeah. i figured that was the case. i just can't seem to think of a way around my problem other than doing that. there is a bug in the bugzilla thing that looks like its related but it hasn't gone through yet, but i kinda need a workaround now (we just went into production). i guess i'll just have to keep track of it. 15:33 jcamins Just put a person's nick at the beginning of the line followed by a colon. 15:33 jcamins That's why changing production code directly is such a hugely bad idea. 15:33 jcamins If you made changes to your production code, they will be overwritten. 15:33 jcamins smrt: they will *NOT* be there. 15:32 smrt there are a couple of things ive been changing in the perl code for my library and i just want to make sure that when i upgrade those changes will still be there. and on an unrelated notehow do you reply to specific people in IRC? 15:30 francharb :) 15:30 francharb I checked the code, I answered my qestin 15:27 jcamins smrt: why do you ask? 15:26 francharb (its on koha 3.14.7) 15:25 francharb Quick question : I have an installation where Holds queue doesnt display holds on checked out or not for loan items. Is it a correct behaviour? 15:23 francharb Hi all! 15:23 smrt oh ok, so what does it depend on? 15:22 tcohen well, it depends 15:22 tcohen all of them 15:20 smrt hi i was just wondering when i do an update (ex: 3.16.0 to 3.16.1) does it replace all the files on the local machine or just the ones that are changed? 14:59 cait bye :) 14:48 cait http://manual.koha-community.org/3.14/en/selfcheckout.html 14:47 wahanui it has been said that manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation 14:47 cait manual? 14:47 cait mle: there is web based self check 14:44 mle I am wondering whether there is facility for users to checkout from their opac login, assuming that they have been given the correct permission in admin (if so what permissions would they be?) 14:24 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 14:24 cait @later tell mtompset I was not sure I understood what you wanted to be tested - and it's already signed off 14:24 cait hm now i missed him 14:22 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 14:22 mtompset @later tell cait Oops. Didn't directly answer question re 8462. No, because I don't know if I am right or wrong, I would leave it for the testers to confirm. 14:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12495 - Include streetnumber in hold alert address <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d6c092921919526ade501facb1220f8a108a08f> / Bug 12511 - Novelist Select not using https in bootstrap <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac277edaaf3ece692146d669c94e1fd8c681ea68> / Bug 12062: Follow up - adds missing ) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitd 14:00 bgkriegel perhaps we need to remove git option from install instructions, and move that to README.developers 13:57 cait i think one time it was down because lots of people git cloned at the same time 13:56 cait maybe someone is downloading dumps again 13:56 cait hm it worked for me a moment ago, just slow 13:56 bgkriegel no git :( 13:51 cait tcohen: so true 13:51 bgkriegel yep, but will be awake earlier 13:46 tcohen bgkriegel: its still 6:46 in Seattle 13:45 bgkriegel tchohen: perhaps gmcharlt also 13:43 tcohen f*ng timezones 13:43 Joubu tcohen: I think rangi has it 13:42 tcohen *somehow* 13:42 tcohen nodes 13:42 tcohen it seems to have banned soe jenkins ondes 13:42 tcohen does anyone have root access to git.koha-community.org ? 13:37 Joubu khall: ok thanks, I hope he will involve in the discussion :) 13:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6007 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Checking 'Display only used Tags/Subfields' on MARC framework page results in unusable output 13:35 bgkriegel Question: Does anyone know/remember which is the use of 'seealso' field in frameworks? (see Bug 6007) 13:34 khall I like that your version is simpler though. I think we need to get other dbic people to weigh in. gmcharlt would be a good person to ask. 13:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U14 build #46: FAILURE in 15 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U14/46/ 13:34 khall hmm, I really can't say if one method is better than the other. Yours is more clear and straightforward, but mine seems like it is more in line with how to use dbic perhaps. I may or may not create other needed relationships automatically. 13:31 Joubu khall: I understood your problem, but I'm under the impression that my patch fixes that without adding new constraints 13:27 Joubu khall: I tested that your unit tests pass 13:25 khall Joubu: have you tested your patch? I added the biblioitem relationship manually because our db schema does not match what dbic expects. Instead of saying $biblio->biblioitem(), you had to write $biblio->biblioitemnumber() to get the biblioitem, which I found needlessly confusing. 13:22 khall Joubu: will do! 13:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add new method to Koha::Schema::Result::Item that will always return the correct itemtype 13:21 Joubu khall: hi! Can I get your opinion on my last patch on bug 11518 please? 13:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12499: adding units tests for C4::Letters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=47de926463c7f50cde887dfa36895a125a09b7c8> / Bug 12151: Remove uses of smartmatch operator from Koha/Solr/QueryBuilder.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f187d9d9e7b2e399b70b70c3aa9c229a5010d294> / Bug 12151: Remove use of smartmatch operator in tools/batchMod.pl <http://git.koha-com 13:20 khall yep! 13:20 Joubu khall: around? 13:12 lducos re 13:08 Joubu nonexistent* 13:08 Joubu tcohen: the current one has at least 2 unexistent tables 13:08 Joubu tcohen: do you plan to regenerate the dbic schema regularly? 13:06 lducos works but slow 13:06 lducos ok works for me now 13:05 cait ah works for me , just slow 13:05 cait hm looks like it, maybe just too many requests 13:04 lducos fatal: read error: 13:04 lducos git.koha-community.org is sick ? 13:04 wahanui hi, lducos 13:04 lducos hello 13:04 lducos hellà 13:04 Joubu tcohen: a proposition, for discussion 13:02 wahanui rumour has it a followup is a patch that applies after the other one with the differences 13:02 tcohen Joubu: a followup? 12:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add new method to Koha::Schema::Result::Item that will always return the correct itemtype 12:59 Joubu tcohen: could you please have a look at the last patch on bug 11518? 12:57 paul_p hi tcohen. No France<>Argentina for final... 12:56 cait catalog is the minimum i think, the rest is optional 12:54 mle I still need to unpick which particular permission does that. just using superlibrarian now. 12:52 mle cait: thank you so much. It was the fact that it was not default for the new patron of type 'staff' to have access to the librarian interface that threw me. 12:49 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Middle Village Juniper Valley Park, Queens, New York is 25.6°C (8:49 AM EDT on July 07, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 12:49 jcamins @wunder 11375 12:49 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in SE-Svc-Cntr, Houston, Texas is 26.3°C (7:49 AM CDT on July 07, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising). 12:49 jcamins @wunder houston, tx 12:38 tcohen morning #koha 12:38 bgkriegel hi cait tcohen :) 12:29 cait you are welcome mle :) 12:24 mle thank you cait : ) 12:08 bgkriegel morning 11:51 francharb Good morning 11:32 cait if you are using the database user for staff login... it's different, but you shouldn't be doing that 11:32 cait like you do for patrons - patron account - toolbar - change password 11:32 cait or if the password was forgotten a superlibrarian user can reset them for other staff members 11:31 cait you can either tell them to reset their passwords in the opac 11:31 cait normal users don't have the permissions to access staff 11:31 cait mle: patron accutns are used for staff access and opac - same login - the only difference is the permissions 11:31 cait hi mle :) 11:23 mle is the opac/staff password in patrons the same as the intranet login? how to i reset the staff/admin intranet passwords? 11:22 mle hey : ) 11:05 nlegrand \o/ 11:05 cait :) 11:05 cait yes, go and work on stacks! 11:05 nlegrand \o/ ho now I really have to work :) 11:04 cait or for sign off... if i beat ashimema to it :) 11:04 cait nlegrand: count me in for qa then :) 09:53 nlegrand :D 09:41 ashimema That's awesome nlegrand.. I'll happily test/qa it for you 09:23 nlegrand ashimema: I'll be working on porting ours for a koha master branch with a decent patch as soon as possible :) (I hope I'll have something showable in august) 09:10 ashimema though with the current worklaod it's about 2 years off.. would be lovely to see someone else attacking it. 09:10 ashimema it's on my list to develop a 'request from stacks' functionality.. 09:10 ashimema ohh.. did I hear someone talking about stacks.. 08:55 cait meeting bbiab 08:53 paul_p s/not/now/ 08:53 paul_p nlegrand = the template system was HTML::Template::Pro, not it's Template::Toolkit. Abbreviated in htp & TT 08:53 nlegrand :) 08:52 cait i would prefer, but it takes time, i can try google translate :) 08:52 nlegrand Sure, I have some documentation, but it's in french only, would you prefer a translation ? 08:50 cait but i would be very interested in some specs about how the closed stack features work 08:50 cait :) 08:50 nlegrand cait: ^^ 08:50 nlegrand cait: yep :) I'm almost full time on it, I hope to finish at the end of the year 08:50 cait :) just worried about the headache this looks likely to be 08:49 cait as long as you have the history 08:49 nlegrand cait: you're interested by history? The commit logs aren't super usefull (references to a Mantis where all the details are) and in french :( 08:47 cait hm don't know aboutthat either, just looks really hard to work from what it is like now 08:46 nlegrand cait: ho it is, I'm not sure it's possible to have only the koha directory though (it's in a repository with other devs for the BULAC) 08:45 cait closed stacks are quite a thing here 08:45 cait both sound very interesting 08:44 nlegrand the two big stuffs that may be interestings are Stacks, to manage communcationcirculation of books inside stacks the patrons cannot go into, and Callnumber which increments callnumbers for books stored in stacks 08:44 cait i see lots f interesting looking lines, makes me wonder what's hiding in there :) 08:43 cait hm i wonder ... hsould be possible to somehow convert it to git? 08:42 nlegrand cait: no, it was in a SVN, checkedout from a 3.02.04 08:42 cait because the bulac featrues seem to be one big commit? 08:42 cait html template pro i think 08:42 cait the old template thing 08:42 nlegrand what's htp? 08:42 cait was it not in a git repo? 08:42 nlegrand cait: second, it's not separated by functionnality, which means it could not be proposed to the community 08:41 cait you still have htp 08:41 cait oh right 08:41 nlegrand cait: first paul_p warned me about templates changed in 3.4 08:41 nlegrand cait: ha ha, it's just I don't want to try rebases :) 08:40 nlegrand rather unreadable I guess, I will try to repatch with the "one functionnality, one branch" way 08:40 cait optimistic name ;) 08:39 nlegrand their is a branch with our dead end fork: https://github.com/BULAC/koha/tree/bulac-dead_end-3.02.04 08:39 nlegrand In my slow work in progress to port BULAC customisations to follow recent releases, I have open a github : https://github.com/BULAC 08:32 nlegrand hey cait :) 08:32 cait hi nlegrand 08:31 nlegrand Hey #koha! 08:14 cait gaetan_B: you are welcome 08:05 gaetan_B cait++ 08:05 gaetan_B oh, you did the qa on my patch, thanks cait :) 08:04 cait ashimema: rearely using chrome :( 08:02 wahanui que tal, reiveune 08:02 reiveune hello 07:55 ashimema s/month/months 07:55 ashimema I've been having crashes with it for month now and they’re getting more frequent 07:54 ashimema random question for any linux nerds out there.. is anyone else having frequent crashes with google chrome on ubuntu gnome edition at all.. 07:52 ashimema good morning cait 07:51 cait good morning ashimema :) 07:49 cait it was nicer to watch then the second game 07:43 paul_p cait what really striked me was that no team was playing as if it were about to loose. The french players, 5mn before the end of the match, were playing as if they were *sure* that they'll win at the end. That's what is "fun" with soccer: you cannot be sure before the real end that you're winner (even when you're 5-0 20mn before the end, you can loose. Very unprobable, but possible) 07:40 cait paul_p: but i guess you are right 07:40 cait paul_p: I don't know enough about soccer to really judge who played better - I enjoy watching but don't know much about it :) 07:39 paul_p cait = about the match: I thought it was about to be 50/50. The piece fall on the "germany" side, but it could have fall on the "france" side. I don't think german team has played better than the french one (the french one didn't play better than the german though) 07:38 cait ok 07:37 paul_p cait = yes, I saw it. Will fwd: it to matts who probably has an answer (and I don't) 07:37 cait did you see my email about the CAS server? 07:37 cait paul_p: now you don'thave to worry about me QAing patches ;) 07:33 paul_p hi cait. 07:33 cait moning paul_p 07:33 cait morning pa 07:24 cait good morning #koha 07:22 wahanui bidet, gaetan_B 07:22 gaetan_B hello 06:54 wahanui salut, alex_a 06:54 alex_a bonjour 06:28 marcelr hi #koha 05:25 francesa sorry to anyone using the koha irc site, I temporarily broke it. I've pushed the fix through now so hopefully it should be working again at some point 05:17 * thd returns to work 05:16 thd eythian, Thank you, I will try back in a couple of days. 05:15 thd of course, that :) 05:15 eythian thd: well, it's been the weekend, so effectively yes. 05:15 thd eythian, has he been away for a few days recently? 05:06 eythian he's away for today and tomorrow 05:06 eythian thd: it's unlikely 05:05 thd rangi: Are you there? 04:27 dcook I know that feelings :p 04:26 cait sorry, part of the confusion may be because i just woke up... i need some time in the morning :) 04:25 * dcook isn't overly fond of the patch 04:25 dcook Actually, let me look at Kyle's code again.. 04:25 cait i only tested the serach in acquisitions 04:24 cait dcook: ? 04:23 dcook cait: Basically, before applying the patch, if you use QueryParser, you should have relevance ranked results. If you're not using QueryParser, they should be ordered by biblionumber. 04:22 dcook Did you have the system preference on for both tests? 04:22 dcook What I mean is... 04:21 dcook So when you're using query parser, are you doing the same search in acq and elsewhere? 04:21 dcook Ok 04:21 cait so that gives a bit more than 20 results 04:20 cait it's an article, i only have 101 records :) 04:20 cait der 04:20 dac What search did you do? 04:20 dac How do you mean? 04:20 cait while the bug states it should be different without 04:20 dac O_o 04:20 cait my results were only different WITH query parser 04:20 cait dac: about acq search - i am still confused 04:19 cait thx :) 04:19 cait ah 04:19 eythian dac is dcook 04:19 cait hi eythian 04:19 eythian hi cait 04:19 cait hm no dcook 03:07 cjh http://emojipedia.org/pile-of-poo/ 03:04 eythian Actually, it probably is. 03:04 eythian and facebooks all about what you had for breakfast. 03:04 eythian also, twitter's should be 140 characters only. 02:59 cjh really their landing page should be all emoji 02:56 cjh > Emojli: the emoji-only network. 02:37 eythian http://youtu.be/iyybPvRsEuY <-- cjh 02:34 cjh I dislike growing piles of comics, and it is much cheaper (especially for back issues) 02:34 dcook jcamins: Neato! 02:33 jcamins I met the comixology people. A colleague ran their office space. 02:33 dcook cjh++ #good recommendation 02:33 eythian it's quite nifty, especially if you're a casual reader. 02:33 cjh eythian: heh I was just mentioning comixology to dcook in priv :) 02:33 dcook I'm tempted to look at comixology a bit more now... 02:32 dcook Well, web comics sometimes I'll stay on for for a while when I'm on the bus/eating lunch/etc 02:32 dcook Yeah, I have that tendency as well 02:31 eythian yeah, I have a few, and quite a number in comixology, they're something I'll binge on for a few days, and then put down for a few months though. 02:30 dcook Started reading web comics in high school but stopped at one point in uni (probably because I needed to sleep and work) 02:30 dcook I love me some comics :D 02:30 dcook Read the first volume cover to cover when I was sick in bed a couple years ago though and kept meaning to read more 02:30 eythian heh 02:29 dcook It's not a good one to read before bed. Pretty darned creepy. 02:29 dcook I think the authors are NYT best sellers but not sure if the comics are.. 02:28 * eythian is not a huge comic person, so that's not too surprising 02:28 eythian I don't know that one. 02:28 cjh :D 02:28 dcook Already have 1 at home, and will have to ask the wife if 6 is on the way.. 02:28 dcook Volumes 2-5 of Locke & Key 02:27 eythian whatcha get? 02:25 dcook Hurray! Comics arrived! 00:30 dcook Yeah, I'm thinking that must be it 00:25 eythian So it'll probably feel warmer out of the shade. 00:25 eythian Sunny though. 00:25 eythian No, it's most likely 11 here. 00:24 dcook Surely it must be warmer in both places... 00:24 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 14.0°C (10:00 AM EST on July 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 00:24 dcook @wunder sydney, australia 00:18 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on July 07, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). 00:18 eythian @wunder nzwn 00:11 dcook Ish 00:11 dcook Mmm, that "roadtype" thing sounds familiar