Time Nick Message 23:59 dcook Reports/logs can easily break for anything related to system preferences or bib data :/ 23:58 dcook That's a goal for Koha at some point too...to do a bit less with CSV 23:58 dcook Yeah, I avoid CSV as much as possible these days 23:57 wizzyrea ods muuuch better. 23:57 wizzyrea yeah, avoid csv it's delicate. 23:52 wizzyrea namely, avoiding csv entirely. 23:52 * wizzyrea tries something else 23:41 wizzyrea well no it wasn't that 23:39 dcook I would've said maybe delimiter or comma problem with CSV but dunno about ods 23:39 wizzyrea oh I think I know 23:39 dcook Hmm, weird 23:38 wizzyrea I tried both csv and ods 23:38 wahanui it has been said that CSV is generally better to start with than Excel. 23:38 dcook CSV? 23:38 dcook Yikes... 23:38 wizzyrea it just says "error importing framework 23:37 * dcook has run into that a old chestnut a few times 23:37 dcook You might need to clear your cache, if you have one? 23:37 dcook I don't think so? What's not working? 23:36 wizzyrea I can't seem to get an edited one to work 23:35 wizzyrea is there some trick to the framework import? 23:33 dcook bkriegel++ #thanks for the sign off 23:22 gmcharlt rangi: very interesting 23:09 rangi glibc moved to a more koha model of development, and now is going back in debian 23:08 rangi http://blog.aurel32.net/175 23:08 rangi this is interesting 23:05 gmcharlt http://koha-community.org/clarification-regarding-the-list-of-paid-support-companies/ 21:31 grharry need some help 21:31 grharry I am trying to access the authorites database of my zebra from yaz-client with no success and I get [109] Database unavailable -- v2 addinfo 'authorities' 21:27 mtompset Yep. That was it... Hadn't done a git fetch in a long while. 21:02 mtompset 3/ws 13? 21:02 rangi heh 21:02 rangi 3/ws 13 21:00 mtompset I'm doing a git fetch, and seeing if that was the problem. 21:00 cait hm ther eis a 3.16.x 20:59 cait maybe you are missing a v 20:59 mtompset I was thinking of trying to 'git branch -b my_3.16 origin/3.16.x' and discovered with a 'git branch -a' there isn't such a thing? Or is that because i haven't git fetched lately? 20:58 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 20:13 rangi cya oleonard 20:13 oleonard Hello and goodbye rangi! 20:10 cait i will try to tell viktor tomorrow if he doesn#t see it here 20:10 rangi Generated 2014-06-18 00:11:35 (in 740 seconds) 20:10 cait good morning rangi 20:10 rangi tells you 20:10 cait ah :) 20:10 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/index.html 20:10 rangi btw 20:10 rangi and the commits date is the date it was committed, not the date it was pushed 20:09 rangi fwiw stats are generated every single day 19:18 cait hola #koha :) 19:05 * cait waves 18:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11801: In transit hold items incorrectly labels as "Waiting to be pulled" on... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=76596ff6dc09b6443f23b0d3cdb01ff3aa4ac5d5> 18:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12406: adding the column maxsuspensiondays in the tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a79e8bb81590c9b33a06ef325d49bdb3e9adc096> 18:06 tcohen gaetan_B: @later tell gaetan_B thanks! 17:55 gaetan_B and bye :) 17:55 gaetan_B happy birthday tcohen! 17:20 rambutan Firebird, jcamins, Firebird 17:04 jcamins oleonard: be sure to put that on the bug reports about Koha not being written in Java and Koha not using Postgres. 17:02 jcamins tcohen: happy birthday! 17:01 oleonard I think I'll add "I would like to know why such a serious issue hasn't been fixed???" to every bug in Bugzilla. That should move things along. 16:51 oleonard Good. 16:51 nengard now it's time to leave the cafe and drive home 16:51 nengard oleonard that worked by the way :) 16:14 nengard k 16:14 oleonard I would try putting a -20px margin on .mastheadsearch and see if that works. 16:12 nengard hehe 16:12 nengard don't you know the opac well enough to know where it is???? 16:12 nengard was trying to keep info private 16:12 nengard :) 16:11 oleonard nengard: I don't think that screenshot is cropped tightly enough. :P 16:10 nengard oleonard is there a page margin i'm missing? http://screencast.com/t/WKCodpn5oZB i don't want white to the left of this search box 15:41 nengard yet 15:41 nengard i didnt ye, i'll take a look 15:40 oleonard nengard did you see my comments on the Novelist and Syndetics bugs? I think they may both be caused by the same issue, one which already has a fix. 15:39 fridolin see you 15:13 fridolin happy birthday tcohen, I just saw the notification on G+. 15:07 ashimema happy birthday tcohen 15:06 cait bye all :) 15:06 cait tcohen: I'd talk more... but i have to go and learn some more spanish :) 15:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12439 - check that CGI is enabled when doing koha-create <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1d59822f8cc4dfa553638383d0c31be9aec341b> 15:01 reiveune bye 14:44 tcohen :-D 14:44 tcohen thanks cait 14:44 cait happy birthday!!! 14:44 cait hi tcohen :) 14:36 tcohen hi cait 14:24 fridolin I will try to fixe the UT on 3.14 soon 14:24 tcohen i'll add 3.12.x soon 14:23 tcohen yes :-D 14:23 fridolin nice that 3.16 is ok 14:21 fridolin testing could be greate in this case 14:21 fridolin ok cool 14:21 fridolin most of our lib run Debian Squeeze 14:21 tcohen I already have Debian 6, i didn't configure it yet 14:20 fridolin Debian 7 is wheezy, I'd say whe need a Debian 6 no ? 14:20 tcohen maybe if someone offers a node with Debian testing we can set it 14:20 tcohen which eythian and chris suggested 14:19 tcohen i'm missing a Debian testing node 14:19 tcohen yeah 14:19 fridolin ok, 3 OS env 14:18 tcohen Koha_3.14.x_D7, Koha_3.14.x_U12 and Koha_3.14.x_U14 are the new tasks 14:17 fridolin i see the last run is much bettter indeed 14:15 fridolin where do i see that ? 14:15 fridolin how it did not yet ? ;) 14:15 tcohen i just wanted for you to take a look at the commands that are run, so we tweak them if needed 14:15 tcohen it runs the unit tests and will report to you when a problem is found 14:14 fridolin What can I do ? 14:13 fridolin I'm kwite a noob for jenkins 14:13 fridolin yep, I saw the mail 14:12 tcohen yes, I wanted you to take a look at the changes I made in jenkins 14:12 tcohen hi fridolin 14:12 fridolin tcohen: you look for me ? 14:11 fridolin hie all 14:06 tcohen hm 14:06 huginn tcohen: fridolin was last seen in #koha 2 days, 1 hour, 6 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <fridolin> hie tcohen : how are you ? 14:06 tcohen @seen fridolin 13:54 wahanui it has been said that morning is a state of cat 13:54 tcohen morning! 13:35 Viktor Gotta go AFK for today, but thanks for testing. Will keep an extra eye on mails from Bugzilla :) 13:29 Viktor I used opac-main.pl as a starting point and stripped all that I could. Might be more that could be removed. 13:29 Viktor Thanks oleonard++ 13:28 magnuse oleonard++ 13:28 oleonard Viktor++ # testing it now 13:28 magnuse yay! 13:26 Viktor It's 7843 that you reported :) But I do think we need some additional eyes on it so I left exposing the RSS in opac-main.pl for a follow up patch. 13:25 Viktor magnuse Got a patch together for RSS of the news in opac that I was asking about the other day. 12:56 magnuse Viktor++ for being our new patch writing machine :-) 12:49 fabreg later I will try on a 64 bit arch also 12:48 fabreg cait, you are the n.1 !! Two days for checking about this problem. Now I'm almost sure it works also on 64 bit 12:47 cait fabreg: great :) 12:46 fabreg cait, I have to keep in mind to setup the right value into /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf and use the same into the web install interface 12:44 fabreg cait, thank you so much! It works!! 12:25 oleonard Hi #koha 11:23 magnuse cait++ 11:06 cait it shoudl at least bring you a step closer 11:06 cait hope it works 11:06 cait you are welcome 11:06 fabreg cait, later I will check if search work or not. In the meantime, many thanks for your support! 11:05 * fabreg is going to eat 10:31 fabreg give me some more moment to try the search, please 10:30 fabreg cait, and now on the configuration file /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf and on web installer there is "UNIMARC" 10:30 fabreg cait, no problem :) Now I have installed a new instance 10:22 cait try again with cataloguing and indexing? 10:22 cait sounds good so far 10:22 cait sorry, not constantly here 10:14 fabreg removed 10:12 fabreg maybe is it safe to delete the previous instance? 10:11 fabreg let me create another instance right now 10:11 fabreg I changed ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT="marc21" to ZEBRA_MARC_FORMAT="unimarc" 10:11 fabreg now in that file 10:09 wahanui it has been said that /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf is correct 10:09 fabreg /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf 10:09 fabreg I have to change the conf file, am I right? 10:09 fabreg but before create new instance 10:09 fabreg oh 10:08 fabreg sudo koha-create --create-db <new_instance> 10:07 cait try creating another instance for testing, make sure you use the command line parameter or a conf file that makes it unimarc 10:07 fabreg for checking 10:07 fabreg let me find the conf file 10:07 cait it all needs to match to 1 marc dialect 10:07 cait i think so 10:07 fabreg should be this the problem ? 10:07 cait then that's your problem 10:07 fabreg there is 21MARC 10:06 fabreg no 10:06 cait you also picked unimarc? in the conf file? 10:06 cait and when you created the instance 10:06 fabreg and I selected UNIMARC 10:06 cait so that shoudl be ok then 10:06 cait right 10:06 fabreg you can choose from 21 and UNIMARC 10:06 fabreg during the web installation 10:06 fabreg in the web install 10:06 cait changed where? :) 10:05 fabreg no other changes 10:05 fabreg just that 10:05 fabreg just changed from 21MARC to UNIMARC 10:05 cait that they are not up to date 10:05 cait it could be 10:05 cait hmm 10:05 fabreg I used all default values 10:05 fabreg in it-IT 10:05 cait in which language did you install the frameworks? 10:05 fabreg I don't remember cait 10:05 cait did you change the framweorks? 10:05 cait you also picked unimarc? 10:05 cait when you ran thte web installer 10:05 fabreg yeah I though the same thing 10:04 cait the warn is not good 10:04 cait hmm 10:03 fabreg and the search does not work 09:59 pastebot "fabreg" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "rebuild" (44 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/52 09:58 fabreg yeah 09:57 cait try the instancename last 09:57 cait got the sequence wrong 09:57 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-rebuild-zebra 09:57 fabreg Usage: /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra [options] instancename1 instancename2. 09:56 cait what does koha-rebuild-zebra -h give you? 09:56 cait apparently i got it wrong 09:56 cait hm 09:55 fabreg thanks pastebot :) 09:55 pastebot "fabreg" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "rebuild" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/51 09:54 cait a lot of the faq and old documentation might tell you to do it, because they were not written for pacakge nistallations 09:53 cait you never ever want to run rebuild-zebra.pl directly btw, that woudl mess up permissions - always use the koha- commands 09:52 cait i think 09:52 cait sudo koha-rebuild-zebra <name ofyourinstance> -v -f 09:51 cait yu want to do 09:51 cait notquite like that 09:51 fabreg can I use this command or better the one reported in the FAQ ? 09:51 fabreg */5 * * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && koha-rebuild-zebra -q $(koha-list --enabled) 09:51 fabreg cait in the crontab I see 09:50 fabreg cait let me try 09:49 cait this might give you errors 09:49 cait fabreg: try a full reindex, using th packages commands and at -v 09:43 cait i am sorry, but i have no more ideas :( 09:43 cait hm ok 09:37 fabreg and added some books using z39.50 09:35 fabreg actually the instance is UNIMARC, right 09:34 cait and imprted UNIMARC data? 09:34 cait fabreg: so yu created the instance with UNIMARC, right? 09:34 cait hi ashimema 09:31 ashimema boom 09:30 fabreg today I re-installed from scratch using UNIMARC and the search does not work 09:30 fabreg cait, because yesterday I used 21MARC and the search goes fine 09:30 fabreg cait can be a problem of UNIMARC ? 09:27 fabreg cait, in that way 09:26 * ashimema waves in caits general direction 09:26 fabreg My Zebra Indexing won’t work! How do I fix it? (AKA: I search for stuff and nothing comes up! Help!) 09:26 wahanui the chapter is monographic component part 09:26 fabreg the chapter 09:26 fabreg http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ 09:23 cait did you use the package commands? 09:23 cait how did you try to rebuild them? 09:19 fabreg but no luck 09:19 fabreg I also tried to rebuild zebra indexes 09:18 fabreg no errors during the installation 09:18 fabreg but all installation steps are fine 09:17 fabreg no cait 09:17 cait did you activate opacsuppression? 09:17 fabreg never worked :( 09:17 cait did it work before? 09:17 cait did you load data? 09:17 cait is it the same for both bibliographic and authorities? 09:17 cait it is a bit hard to tell really 09:17 cait there can be multiple reasons 09:17 fabreg I'm doing some research about the search issue 09:16 fabreg cait: from there http://koha-community.org/koha-3-10-0-released/ 09:15 fabreg cait any idea about the reason for which the search give me all times "No results" ? 09:14 cait where are you citing from? 09:14 cait your zebra configuration shoudl be up to date then 09:14 cait ok 09:14 fabreg cait, with apt-get 09:14 cait and if you installed it fresh and from scratch it should be ok 09:14 cait fabreg: how did you install Koha? 09:13 fabreg and this step is needed in Koha 3.16? 09:13 fabreg the document says: "Upgrading zebra is automatically done with ‘make upgrade’. " but is that true in Debian also? 09:12 fabreg "All UNIMARC libraries must upgrade their zebra configuration and restart zebra, or searches will always return 0 results." -> how this can be done on Debian 6.0.5? 09:06 cait rangi would know 09:06 cait i am not sure if it runs regularly 09:02 viktor How often is it generated? I see no commits for me after june 2. 09:00 viktor ooh - I like that :) 08:55 magnuse viktor: if you havn't seen it already, there is a handy page of stats here: http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html where you can watch youself climb as your patches go into koha :-) 08:54 * magnuse waves to all the cool people 08:37 * viktor waves back 08:35 * cait waves to magnuse, ashimema and viktor 07:54 magnuse kia ora cait 07:50 cait hi #koha 07:24 * dcook heads out for the night 07:18 * dcook was actually going to sign off on 9368 before deciding to write an alternate patch 07:18 dcook I'm hoping to do more testing soon so happy to trade sign offs as well 07:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9368 normal, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , specific behavior of yr and acqdate indexes 07:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12443 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Initial re-factoring of buildQuery 07:17 dcook If folks are looking to sign off some bugs, I'd appreciate testing and sign offs for bug 12443 and my alternate patch on bug 9368 :) 07:16 dcook salut BobB and gaetan_B 07:16 gaetan_B hello 07:08 dcook yo reiveune 07:07 reiveune hello 07:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12443 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Initial re-factoring of buildQuery 07:06 dcook bug 12443 for anyone looking for an easy sign off... 06:55 * magnuse waves 06:54 wahanui hey, alex_a 06:54 alex_a bonjour 06:28 viktor Hi cait :) 06:28 cait bbiab 06:28 cait hi viktor :) 06:24 viktor Hi all :) 05:43 dcook But I figure I'll work in reverse.. 05:43 dcook The QP way would be much nicer :) 05:42 dcook I have ideas for the QP though 05:42 dcook Which will still be called often when using the QP anyway 05:42 dcook Just the traditional way at the moment 05:41 cait are you trying to fix the queryparser or fix the traditional way? or both? 05:28 dcook I think fixing relevance might be a bit too hard/pointless without a bit more refactoring...which will still probably be less than ideal.. 05:02 dcook cheers, rangi 05:01 dcook Yeah, that's what I'm thinking at the moment 05:01 * rangi heads out 05:01 rangi much easier to rebase as ones get pushed that way 05:01 rangi make sure you keep them on little branches 05:01 dcook I suppose I just report as many bugs as possible, send as many patches, and deal with the conflicts as they come up 05:01 dcook The only downside is I have so many patches to do to C4::Search...and they're going to conflict with each other 04:57 dcook For sure 04:56 cait until everyone moves to ES it might takea while 04:54 * dcook mentioned Zebra for eythian's benefit :p 04:54 dcook Well, everyone using Koha + Zebra 04:54 cait :) 04:54 dcook It should benefit everyone using Zebra, so yay! 04:53 cait thx for doing this 04:53 cait dcook++ 04:53 dcook Oh well. More to be fixed.. 04:52 dcook Hmm, just learned a new way that buildQuery is really badly set up... 03:57 dcook Errr, the alternate patch... 03:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9368 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , specific behavior of yr and acqdate indexes 03:57 dcook If anyone wants to fix 'Publication date' and 'Acquisition date' searching for QP and non-QP, try out bug 9368 03:44 dcook Woot. Counter patch ready... 03:09 * dcook needs a break but doesn't want to forget all the things.. 03:09 dcook Hmm QueryRemoveStopwords crap can go as well since 3.12... 03:06 rangi :) 03:06 dcook Maybe just "wth?" :p 03:05 dcook So that we can tear out one piece later rather than look at it and be all "WTH?" 03:05 dcook Still a hacky but more consistently hacky ;) 03:05 rangi sweet 03:05 dcook Currently writing a counter patch though which should be a bit better.. 03:05 dcook Wanted to sign off 9368 03:05 dcook Yeah, I'm hoping to do some more work on that 03:04 rangi we are low on people signing off at the moment 03:04 dcook Can't fix everythign at once :) 03:04 dcook Ah good, already did that. Whew. 03:04 rangi :) 03:04 dcook Which reminds me that I should actually change one of the statuses of my bug away from needs sign off...lol 03:04 * dcook just hopes his code gets in 03:04 rangi *nod* 03:03 dcook decommissioned* 03:03 dcook Or at least understand how to make them more readable/understandable for when they're decommisioned 03:03 dcook Well... 03:03 dcook I think I understand getRecords and buildQuery, which means...that I might be able to actually fix them up a bit 03:03 dcook I'm actually feeling pretty good right now 03:02 dcook Very true :) 03:02 dcook hehe 03:02 rangi otherwise it gets depressing :) 03:02 rangi i have to remind myself of that occasionally, that we are continuially improving 03:01 dcook That is a nice thing 03:01 rangi under our regime since 2010 03:01 rangi the nice thing, all that spaghetti that is C4::Search would never get in 03:01 * dcook really hopes it's not a case of an improvement breaking a broken workflow 03:00 dcook Hope so. 03:00 rangi nice 02:59 dcook AKA removing unnecessary code 02:58 dcook On the plus side, I think I might actually be improving C4::Search... 02:25 dcook As for the r=r and r=o thing...it looks like r=r takes precedence somehow.. 02:25 dcook As I can now use "yaz-client <socket>" again 02:25 dcook Tried "yaz-client" rather than "yaz-client <socket>" and that seems to have fixed the history 02:24 dcook I've had that happen before 02:24 dcook Ah, I think yaz-client detected a segfault in its past so it kept segfaulting 02:24 dcook Hmm? 02:09 eythian segfaults are a symptom of that 02:02 dcook Looks like this version of yaz-client is buggy.. 02:02 dcook Sweet, managed to get around the segfault.. 01:13 dcook That won't end badly.. 01:13 dcook Let's use r=r and r=o at the same time.. 01:12 dcook Looks like the Zebra docs were right but we just have some darn weird CCL mappings.. 01:11 dcook :P 01:11 dcook Ok, maybe not quite... 01:02 * dcook stops grumbling now 01:02 dcook Gotta love how Zebra docs aren't always entirely accurate...:S 00:59 dcook incompatible* 00:59 dcook And relevance appears to be in compatible with date ranges...that's cool, Zebra... 00:47 dcook st-numeric also seems to break relevance ranking... 00:45 * dcook rolls up his sleeves 00:45 dcook Zero sense as far as I can see 00:45 * dcook has no idea why we're using st-numeric instead of st-year with the 'yr' index 00:44 dcook ...man we do weird stuff with Zebra 00:40 dcook Hmm yaz-client still seg faulting...that's nice... 00:22 dcook http://i.imgur.com/EScMj.gif ^ 00:22 dcook But alas... 00:22 dcook Of course, I rather spend no time at all thinking about MARC and MARC frameworks :p 00:22 dcook Another thought is a mechanism for changing what the "default" framework is.. 00:22 dcook The "default" framework sort of functions like that when you ship Koha, but folks pare it down because it's the "default" rather than the "model" framework 00:21 dcook So half-tempted to try something like that 00:21 dcook And that people could alter frameworks off of that 00:21 dcook I've said before it would be nice if there were a static MARC tag library that only got updated during an upgrade 00:20 * dcook <3 Sheldon 00:20 dcook hehe 00:20 wizzyrea re: lazy sysadmins 00:20 dcook But then do you put the onus on them to contact you, the onus on you to contact them.. 00:20 wizzyrea http://i.imgur.com/EScMj.gif 00:19 dcook But many people don't really understand the frameworks and need you to mess with them 00:19 dcook Want to provide people with up-to-date frameworks...but you can't really mess with people's frameworks without them knowing about it 00:19 eythian ah cool 00:19 dcook Need to play around with it more though... 00:19 dcook Specifically for folks like us who host peeps 00:19 * dcook is actually sort of working on a tool for MARC framework management 00:19 dcook Of course, when they're "actually" lazy.. 00:18 wizzyrea most sysadmins say that. 00:18 dcook I seem to recall something saying a lazy sysadmin is a good sysadmin 00:18 dcook haha 00:17 wizzyrea haha 00:17 * wizzyrea almost always seeks to eliminate unnecessary extra work 00:17 dcook [off] unnecessary more work 00:17 dcook It definitely requires a lot more work 00:15 dcook Yeah, I'm inclined to agree... 00:15 dcook hehe 00:12 wizzyrea ^ 00:12 eythian some people just like to watch the world burn. 00:11 wizzyrea I'm always surprised when I hear of vendors who support Koha on not-debian/ubuntu 00:09 dcook Awesome using popular/supported software 00:09 dcook I was just about to say that 00:08 eythian heh. I'm not surprised it's supported, ES is something of a new hotness for many people. 00:07 dcook You have no idea how happy that makes me...haha 00:07 eythian :) 00:06 dcook You may have found yourself another tester :D 00:06 dcook eythian++ 00:06 * dcook twitches a bit 00:05 dcook That is beautiful 00:05 dcook O_O 00:05 eythian http://en.opensuse.org/User:Tsu2/elasticsearch <-- dcook 00:04 dcook doubt* 00:04 dcook I'd be half-tempted to look at their RPMs but I don't they'd work for us 00:04 dcook :( 00:04 dcook Too bad we use OpenSuse... 00:02 eythian http://www.elasticsearch.org/blog/apt-and-yum-repositories/ <-- dcook 00:01 eythian heh 00:01 dcook eythian: Hurry plz with ES? :P 00:01 * dcook looks at more Search.pm code