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22:39 pianohacker definitely...
22:38 bag mouth::firehose
22:37 bag yeah talk about a firehose
22:37 bag good
22:36 pianohacker koha is running on their machines, though, so that's good :)
22:36 pianohacker field session is going decent, trying to get them up to speed on stuff. They're learning web technologies, Perl and Koha's many quirks at the same time, so they're getting firehosed a bit
22:35 bag heya pianohacker how's the project going?
22:32 pianohacker on the list ;)
22:31 bag if not pianohacker - you should have a dev server with plack running :)
22:31 bag actually I have some bugs that need some testing if you have a dev server up with plack running
22:31 bag yeah pretty cool :)
22:31 pianohacker ahh gotcha
22:30 bag pianohacker: Sent 8 hours and 48 minutes ago: <ashimema> Did you ever get anywhere with that scheme to record a days transactions from a big site to allow us to rerun them for plack testing?
22:30 pianohacker bag: what's this about?
22:28 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
22:28 bag @later tell ashimema the biggest stumbling block currently is the stage/manage MARC area - looking at work arounds or possibly a rewrite of that
22:27 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
22:27 bag @later tell ashimema (we ended up going another path) So I decided to just do it and you should see a bunch of small patches from eythian that will update things. Next step is we're going to put a small library in production on it - to clean up the final bugs
22:24 bag hola
22:12 pianohacker young'uns have an amazing lung capacity sometimes
22:11 jcamins The five-year-old is very fond of standing out on the balcony and screaming "HI HI HI HI HI" at the top of his lungs... for a long time.
22:11 jcamins Gosh, I have not missed it being warm enough for our neighbors to be outside on their balcony.
22:08 jcamins You say that now...
22:05 pianohacker Be fun to stop banging my head against JS UI and Perl OOP crap and dig into a nice meaty algorithm
22:04 jcamins Yeah, that's my understanding.
22:04 pianohacker jcamins: Borda for relevance ranking? I've seen borda voting but never in that context. Interesting. Thanks
22:02 jcamins I'd look at the proceedings of SIGIR.
22:02 jcamins The most common approach uses the Borda voting method.
21:59 pianohacker happy for any advice in general, I'm wading into water with lots of crocodiles
21:58 jcamins I can't remember the term.
21:58 jcamins bah.
21:58 jcamins Take a look at work on...
21:58 pianohacker cool, just wanted to be sure :)
21:58 jcamins pianohacker: I figured that was what you were talking about.
21:58 pianohacker jcamins: pazpar2 has caused a bevy of problems, so I think replacing it will help a lot
21:57 pianohacker jcamins: for context, I'm working on implementing a basic Z39.50 metasearch tool for the advanced cataloging module
21:57 pianohacker okay
21:56 jcamins pianohacker: there are a couple of articles on that subject that I've seen cited, but I don't have any references handy.
21:48 pianohacker gmcharlt: okay, thanks. Do you know of any resources on implementing inter-target relevance ranking? Regardless of whether the results come through ranked, there'll have to be some ranking after the fact
21:46 pianohacker hi
18:45 wajasu this may be useful for the elasticsearch,mysql,http monitoring http://packetbeat.com/ https://github.com/packetbeat/packetbeat
18:27 cait hi mtompset
18:26 mtompset Greetings, cait.
17:42 * JesseM waves back to magnuse. Enjoy your pizza.
17:41 magnuse will do! :-)
17:40 mtompset Enjoy the pizza, magnuse. :)
17:40 * magnuse waves to mtompset and #koha in general, then wanders off to make pizza
16:45 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
16:17 cait should do that at the next general meeting
16:17 cait i thik we also forgot to set a date for another dev meeting?
16:16 khall cool, thanks!
16:15 cait khall: it's on my list.. just covered in work right now and I think it won't make it into 3.18 now because of strings
16:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , relative's checkouts in the opac
16:15 cait bug 9303
16:13 huginn khall: The operation succeeded.
16:13 khall @later tell cait can you take a look at the last comment on bug 9303?
15:57 reiveune bye
15:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11631 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Stable , Make translation toolchain ignore useless translatable strings
15:16 jenkins_koha Pasi Kallinen: Bug 11631: Make i18n toolchain ignore useless strings
15:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #37: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/37/
13:53 fridolin see u
13:36 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
13:36 ashimema @later tell bag Did you ever get anywhere with that scheme to record a days transactions from a big site to allow us to rerun them for plack testing?
13:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #37 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
13:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11616 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , The tablesorter plugin is no longer in use
13:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11415 minor, P5 - low, ---, jendayi30, Pushed to Stable , SCO has no option to disable automatic receipt printing
13:34 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11616: (follow-up) remove tablesorter CSS
13:34 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11616: remove jQuery tablesorter plugin
13:34 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 11415: DBRev 3.14.06.001
13:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10611 major, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , C4::Context->dbh checks if the DB is still running
13:34 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11415 (QA Followup) fix whitespace
13:34 jenkins_koha * JaTara Barnes: Bug 11415: Add syspref to toggle SCO receipt printing
13:34 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10611: (follow-up) cache DBMS driver code in context object
13:34 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10611: Use mysql_auto_reconnect instead of ping
13:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #36: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/36/
12:53 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0Â°C (2:20 PM CEST on May 16, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0Â°C. Windchill: 2.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
12:53 magnuse @wunder boo
12:49 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 21.1Â°C (1:43 PM BST on May 16, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 11.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady).
12:49 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
12:47 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 17.2Â°C (7:47 AM CDT on May 16, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
12:47 druthb @wunder 77098
12:47 druthb :)
12:47 cait druthb!
12:46 druthb cait!
12:46 cait morning tcohen
12:46 druthb tcohen!
12:46 wahanui magnuse is probably a Norwegian giant.
12:46 druthb magnuse!
12:41 wahanui morning is, like, a state of the cait
12:41 tcohen morning!
12:36 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
12:36 magnuse druthb!
11:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #36 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
11:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11636 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Impossible to remove patrons from patron list during add process
11:56 jenkins_koha Owen Leonard: Bug 11636 - make it possible to remove patrons from patron list during add process
11:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #35: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/35/
10:28 fridolin since it touches C4::Context, it should be well tested : branch 3.14.x
10:27 fridolin it should improve performance on db acess
10:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10611 major, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , C4::Context->dbh checks if the DB is still running
10:27 fridolin rm 3.14 message : I just pushed Bug 10611
09:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #35 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
09:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11663 trivial, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , Bootstap theme opac holding tab improperly displayed when opacbookbag syspref is disabled
09:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6869 normal, P3, ---, fcapovilla, CLOSED FIXED, Batch item modification fails if accented characters are used in the modification form.
09:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11493 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Batch Item Modification not handling unicode characters
09:55 jenkins_koha * FrÃƒÂ©dÃƒÂ©ric Demians: Bug 11663: fix display of holding tab in Bootstap OPAC when opacbookbag syspref is disabled
09:55 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11493: Revert "Bug 6869 Batch item modification fails whit accented characters"
09:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #34: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/34/
09:50 nlegrand ^^
09:46 fridolin yep ;)
09:39 magnuse it's when things break you learn new things ;-)
09:39 cait :)
09:38 nlegrand It was a bad week for my nerves, but a good one for my understanding of Zebra ^^
09:38 magnuse ouch
09:37 nlegrand I think I've fixed my zebra indexation problem :). It was due to bad MARC field created by batch modifications outside of Koha. It is doing weird UTF-8 overencoding. Worst case is a MARCXML field of more than 12Ko. That's was why zebraidx was segfaulting...
09:35 nlegrand Hey #koha !
09:35 cait and the pages as well
09:35 cait true
09:35 fridolin it should be fixed anyway
09:34 fridolin cait: there a a fiew errors but on nearly deprecated pages
09:34 cait :)
09:34 cait do the tests pass at least when it does?
09:34 fridolin since I use it to test the backport of patches to 3.14.x, it is very important =-O
09:33 fridolin it found that the template test tool does not test bootstrap templates :O
09:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12271 critical, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , valid-templates.t does not test bootstrap opac templates
09:33 fridolin I've just created a critical bug : Bug 12271
09:27 atheia hi fridolin
09:25 fridolin hie all
09:13 kivilahtio have a great weekend!
09:08 atheia Morning cait :-)
09:07 cait :)
09:07 cait hi atheia
09:07 atheia Hiya magnuse!
09:06 * magnuse waves to atheia
08:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0Â°C (10:20 AM CEST on May 16, 2014). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0Â°C. Windchill: 2.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
08:48 magnuse @wunder boo
08:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0Â°C (8:30 PM NZST on May 16, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
08:48 magnuse @wunder wellington, nz
08:48 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:48 magnuse @wunder wellington
08:34 * eythian &
08:33 ashimema nice
08:33 eythian alright, time to bike home. It's coldish out there, but should be a tail breeze.
08:33 ashimema sounds as though eythian is on a real ES mission at the moment.. so good to see
08:32 magnuse hiya ashimema
08:32 ashimema morning #koha
08:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #34 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
08:11 eythian cait: all I need to know is what I'm expect to return to make it show up, I don't care how koha currently works it out.
08:10 cait eythian: don't expect too much of koha... the facets code is...
08:10 eythian :)
08:09 kivilahtio eythian: +1 for ES based faceting :)
08:05 * magnuse cheers eythian on
08:02 eythian I am taking the policy that "any function longer than a screen is too big" so hopefully anyone looking at my code can work out what I've done, along with documentation (and eventually when the API settles more, unit tests.)
08:00 eythian the hard bit will be figuring out how Koha expects to receive facet information, all that stuff is woefully underdocumented.
08:00 magnuse nah, can't imagine that ;-)
08:00 eythian magnuse: probably harder than letting ES do it :)
08:00 magnuse eythian: never mind the "special facets functions" of ES - just implement something yourself. how hard can it be? ;-)
07:56 eythian kivilahtio: yeah, I need to get back into a 3 times a week habit.
07:56 thd good morning ;)
07:56 eythian )
07:56 eythian (I was thinking the logic .pl files behind it, if they have much shared code it should probably be pulled into a Koha:: module.
07:56 cait good night thd :)
07:55 * thd goes back to sleep
07:55 eythian paxed: a shared template module directory probably wouldn't be the worst idea.
07:54 kivilahtio eythian: you are almost there! I know you can get it if you just train hard!
07:54 thd I will wait to see if the issue is resolved next week before I repost my message to the kohadevel list.
07:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12270 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Create a directory for templates shared with opac and intranet
07:54 paxed eythian: bug 12270
07:51 eythian I haven't got it yet, that may be premature.
07:51 kivilahtio congratulations!
07:51 kivilahtio wow
07:51 eythian thd: I suspect it's a mail flow problem, but it's hard to be sure from the outside.
07:50 thd eythian: Yes, the delay does give the impression of more than not enough attention from the list moderators.
07:50 eythian I'm going for my black belt later this year
07:50 kivilahtio I should get back to dojo as well :) maybe soon
07:49 kivilahtio cool!
07:49 eythian http://www.seishinkanwellington.org.nz/ <-- kivilahtio
07:49 kivilahtio eythian: what are you training?
07:48 eythian you could symlink but in general it's a weird thing to want
07:48 paxed code duplication is not FTW.
07:48 eythian paxed: short answer, probably nowhere.
07:48 eythian it's moderated by a few people, but I suspect that it's a sysadmin level issue
07:48 paxed (in the source tree, that is)
07:47 eythian cait: yeah, the main list
07:47 paxed is there any place i could put a template so it could be used from both opac and intranet?
07:47 eythian I have to wait for rangi to finish what he's been working on so I can do a reindex.
07:47 cait thd: koha main list? not sure who moderates it hm.
07:47 cait you shoudl!
07:46 eythian I should do so
07:46 eythian Oh, I haven't tested ES with diacritics.
07:46 kivilahtio Ã¤ in password , not marked as utf8 :)
07:46 kivilahtio gah, my issue had diacritic issues :D
07:46 thd I have not seen my message pop out now for 4 days.
07:46 eythian I emailed the list admin today, but haven't had a reply yet
07:46 eythian thd: it's a problem for me too
07:45 cait not sure, how long have you been waiting?
07:45 thd Does any one know what is happening with the delayed mail for the Koha list?
07:44 eythian ES has some special facets functions that I know nothing about yet.
07:43 eythian heh
07:43 cait we can't get you beat up now that you are going to work on facets
07:43 eythian either way, they both have to happen
07:43 cait have fun and be careful in training
07:42 eythian facets it is then ;)
07:42 eythian (in case you're wondering, I'm just poking at the computer before I bike home - I have to go to training early (for me) in the morning.)
07:42 * cait votes facets ;)
07:42 cait hi eythian
07:41 magnuse eythian: very cool!
07:41 eythian that'll be a little while off just yet.
07:41 eythian the next thing will probably be starting with facets, or maybe advanced search.
07:41 kivilahtio eythian: Looking forward to signing off your patches!
07:41 kivilahtio eythian: very happy!
07:41 eythian kivilahtio: you'll be happy to know I have basic searches working almost properly with ES. There are issues with sorting that are Monday's job.
07:40 eythian is it on the same domain? There might be cross-site issues?
07:39 kivilahtio there are web articles which say that using this form and parameters should do the trick?
07:39 kivilahtio http://pastebin.com/02QGTj2F
07:39 kivilahtio does anybody know why I cannot login from outside the opac-main.pl? I have this basic form copied directly from the opac-main.pl
07:37 wahanui hi, eythian
07:37 eythian kivilahtio: hello
07:37 kivilahtio eythian: hi!
07:35 eythian hi cait
07:23 dcook Hope everyone has a good Friday/weekend :)
07:21 cait yeah :)
07:20 dcook I think it's nearly time for me to buzz home
07:20 dcook yo cait
07:15 cait hi #koha
07:08 magnuse howdy dcook
06:55 dcook paxed: I don't think there is currently any built in mechanism for that
06:55 dcook yo magnuse
06:52 * magnuse waves
06:46 paxed is there a way to force patrons to change their password?
06:43 cait morning all and bbl
06:37 wahanui what's up, reiveune
06:37 reiveune hello
06:02 paxed whee adultborrower!
05:19 cait sorry, still waking up
05:19 cait morning dcook
05:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11241 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED INVALID, DHXD
05:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12259 normal, P3, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Invalid dependency module version number
05:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12251 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Error in sample_notices.sql (es-ES)
05:18 jenkins_koha * Koha SAB CINECA: Bug 11241: update the Italian MARC21 setup for 3.16
05:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12209 minor, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Fix currency symbol for NOK
05:18 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 12259 - fix version numbers in dependencies
05:18 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12251: fix error in sample_notices.sql (ru-RU)
05:18 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12251: fix error in sample_notices.sql (fr-FR)
05:18 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12251: fix error in sample_notices.sql (es-ES)
05:18 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 12209 - Fix currency symbol for NOK
05:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1754: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 18 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1754/
05:12 dcook morning cait
04:25 wajasu :0
04:18 dcook wajasu: Quite interesting
04:14 wajasu interesting http://xing.github.io/wysihtml5/
04:05 eythian hmm
03:53 dcook \o/
03:53 rangi nice!
03:52 eythian let's see if I can do that before beer o'clock
03:52 eythian rangi: now have keyword vs. specific field (e.g. title) searching working in ES. Next stop: sorting.
03:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #1754 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11241: update the Italian MARC21 setup for 3.16 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b77d69abbeb95bb55d7c93d2a132d89db22bf3e4> / Bug 12259 - fix version numbers in dependencies <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a045d4a9f9f29a837e7975e8f7f7162c3324d57> / Bug 12251: fix error in sample_notices.sql (ru-RU) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit
02:27 mtompset Yes, that was a good video. :)
02:12 eythian oh
02:12 wahanui ...but are you a bot is <reply>http://youtu.be/-Vzw1NdSZmc...
02:12 eythian wahanui: are \you a bot is <reply>No, \I am a human.
02:12 wahanui eythian: wish i knew
02:12 eythian wahanui: are you a bot?
01:22 mtompset So, if I am going to write thorough tests for GetMarcBiblio, I will need to check items, and stuff.
01:22 mtompset Because there is the embedded items parameter to GetMarcBiblio.
01:21 dcook If it is 995, their indexing is going to be wonky
01:21 mtompset But if I use GetMarcFromKohaField, it will tell me. :)
01:21 eythian but I don't really know
01:21 eythian the out of data, unimplemented stuff on the wiki refers to 995
01:21 mtompset You may be right.
01:21 * dcook swears he's seen different ones..
01:20 dcook Actually..maybe it is 952...
01:20 mtompset marcfieldfromkoha.
01:20 dcook Take a look at the Koha.pm facet stuff
01:20 mtompset oh... DOH!
01:20 dcook 955 or something I think
01:20 dcook The UNIMARC installs use a different field I believe
01:20 mtompset And then trying to determine what tests to run and how.
01:20 dcook mtompset: Nope
01:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11592 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, ASSIGNED , opac scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility
01:19 mtompset -- I'm in the midst of thinking of tests to run for the changes I'll make on bug 11592.
01:19 mtompset But basically, you are saying that if I go hunting for a 952 in the marcxml SQL field, it should be there regardless of UNIMARC or MARC21?
01:19 eythian find a koha library with unimarc and peek at the marc record
01:18 eythian I'd guess then that maybe it uses 952 as well
01:18 eythian oh, the unimarc thing is somewhat incomplete from the look of it
01:18 mtompset 852 was before that.
01:18 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_(9xx)
01:18 eythian you're thinking 852 perhaps
01:17 mtompset -- well, it was a MARC21 historically. :P
01:17 eythian it's a koha thing
01:17 eythian 952 isn't a MARC21 thing either
01:16 mtompset I'm curious, is there a URL for the specification of UNIMARC? I was wondering if it has 952 fields. And if that sounds dumb, I haven't had caffeine at all today.
00:55 dcook That's really cool though :)
00:55 dcook hehe, exactly!
00:55 eythian all the things no one ever uses anyway :)
00:55 eythian sorting
00:55 eythian like, facets, searching on anything other than a keyword search, that sort of hting
00:54 eythian dcook: good, made significant process. You could actually use it right now if you didn't mind a lot of things being missing.
00:53 dcook How'd the ESing go last night, eythian?
00:53 dcook Well, sure, now :p
00:53 eythian nope, 12:53
00:37 dcook Whoa, it's 10:30!
00:37 dcook Or implemented it in the same way..
00:37 * dcook wishes that z39.50 targets all used the same Bib-1 set...