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01:28 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
01:28 mtompset    gmcharlt: You here?
01:29 mtompset    @later tell gmcharlt Should I put the follow up on bug 11253, or a different bug?
01:29 huginn      mtompset: The operation succeeded.
03:20 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7844: Plack intranet tooling for developers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=224eab822d691aeb8f95e39143a830cbafc81eb4>
04:00 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11552: (follow-up) fix a typo in a comment <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=123f07cc8ac756c4d3bdeb4f38fa36a9bb6581bf> / Bug 11552: allow searching on original order number after a transfer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6eb69ed3ec7650b6298968c4a79e2cb4204ebb6f>
04:20 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7308: (follow-up) tweak style of child fund amounts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3a52a9b200f3e87033ecd8f42938eaa6ddab410> / Bug 7308: (follow-up) change color style for fund child <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=773f28ac0d81ce9544fe8052da117e5b0c1da4c7> / Bug 7308: (follow-up) removing line breaks for better translatability <http://git.koha-community.
04:30 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11551: (follow-up) standardize label of order number / order line <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=daebb78b4e5fdd595e0d16d505c9fa31a8639da8> / Bug 11551: Allow to search on parent ordernumber in histsearch.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=65748d05b54ff16c49bc9700714bc8ee1f75fad2> / Bug 11551: Add unit tests for using GetHistory to search by order number
04:42 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11027: (follow-up) update unit test to reflect new columns returned by GetLateOrders <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e453ba2fa5a8daa65f1ad9b0ec30f577bd17a419> / Bug 11027: (follow-up) change label "Branch" to "Library" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dedf006d02faf7d5299bcec721b4d46f726721b2> / Bug 11027: (follow-up) hide link if no basketgroup and use rea
04:52 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11864: Show parent order line in received orders table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51c0e46033fffcbb07fb5456640e35fb41623707> / Bug 11864: (code cleanup) re-indent parcel.tt and rename a variable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=906b7deffe88bf245d1b21c1e3b8df800034db2e>
05:32 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7288: (follow-up) add unit test for is_linked_to_subscriptions flag <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ca087cf5c5accc4d2a128135e496acd4d3f96f0> / Bug 7288: (follow-up) various fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=afa6a33449615335fb6e9144d78d49beb7e6b640> / Bug 7288: (follow-up) set a boolean if the invoice if linked to subscriptions <http://git.koha-commun
05:46 cait        wow, still at work or again?
05:48 cait        @later tell eythian - could you take a look at bug 10782 and bug 10942 maybe?
05:48 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
05:56 cait        gmcharlt++
06:00 gmcharlt    @later tell mtompset new bug, please
06:00 huginn      gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
06:00 cait        good morning gmcharlt
06:00 cait        not sure if i should hand you coffee or send you to bed? :)
06:02 gmcharlt    heh
06:02 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10859: (follow-up) clarify logic on multiple loans on same bib <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4838a3d3abce2c45ea96e939ee88f81a4618e4c> / Bug 10859: DBRev 3.15.00.036 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c78001410157d530eabbcac2c198a708e7ec508> / Bug 10859: (follow-up) fix order in sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h
06:02 gmcharlt    goodnight, cait
06:03 cait        goodnight gmcharlt, sleep well
06:03 cait        i think you don't have to worry about bed bugs... you got the bugs under control
06:17 cait        @later tell marcelr - give me a ping when you are around sometime?
06:17 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
08:21 cait        @quote random
08:21 huginn      cait: Quote #245: "<jcamins> Noooooooooooo!!!! wahanui! Cut down in the prime of life!" (added by gmcharlt at 11:07 PM, May 02, 2013)
09:07 cait        @wunder Konstanz
09:07 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 10.0°C (11:00 AM CEST on April 21, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1004 hPa (Rising).
12:21 cait        bgkriegel++
12:43 tcohen      morning #koha
12:45 cait        hi tcohen :)
12:45 cait        are you back?
12:45 tcohen      yeap :D
12:47 cait        how was it? :)
13:01 cait        hm... and now he is hiding...? :)
13:09 tcohen      hi cait
13:23 kmo78       My biblio_framework.frm table has become corrupt. What information is stored in this table? I'm trying to backup my database but I can't because of this.
13:25 cait        hm it should be the descriptions of your frameworks
13:25 cait        maybe not so hard to recover
13:25 cait        the tags and subfields are stored in other tables, youcould look at which frameworkcodes exist there
13:25 tcohen      kmo78: have you tried to repair the table?
13:25 cait        and then add back the codes and descriptions for them to the frameworks table
13:26 kmo78       I tried to do a repair but it's an innodb table and because of that a repair doesn't seem to work
13:27 kmo78       When I look at the table in phpmyadmin it shows #1033 - Incorrect information in file: './koha/biblio_framework.frm'
13:36 kmo78       I think I may backup everything except this table. I'm planning to do a new install anyway and then I can do a restore the DB
13:37 cait        biblio_framework is restorable with sql i'd say
13:38 kmo78       Really, I've searched and searched on how to restore it but I haven't had any luck
13:38 cait        you could do a select distinct frameworkcode from marc_subfield_structure
13:39 cait        and for each of those codes, you want one line in biblio_framework - with the code and your description/name for it
13:39 cait        frameworks are for catalaguing,the define a set of fields, subfields, how the cataloguing form looks like
13:40 kmo78       Lets say I do a new install and restore everything except biblio_framework. Do you think that would work ?
13:44 cait        yes, but you need to add some entries to this table to make catalouging fully work again
13:45 tcohen      Joubu: regarding 11051
13:45 cait        but that can be guessed from the other data
13:45 cait        tcohen: I think Joubu is not here - holiday :)
13:45 tcohen      oh
13:50 kmo78       Well I'm not familiar enough with koha to "guess".
13:50 cait        that's where we can help
13:50 cait        i already gave you the sql above
13:50 tcohen      @later tell Joubu ref: bug 11051. Memoize::Memcached 0.04 (which looks like your 0.03) stopped using 'isa' in favour of 'ref' to prevent deprecation warnings. That change made a bug in the API visible. Will try to provide a workaround
13:50 huginn      tcohen: The operation succeeded.
13:50 cait        and if you havephpmyadmin you can use that to do all the necessary steps
13:51 kmo78       OK. I'm going to do a new install and restore all the tables except that one. Then I may be back for some help
13:53 cait        sure
13:53 cait        it's really not the worst table to lose
13:53 cait        rather harmless
13:53 cait        wll.. as far as losing tables can be
13:54 jcamins     kmo78: one thing... do you know why there's corruption? I usually only see corruption when I have entirely run out of disk space.
13:54 tcohen      hi jcamins
13:54 jcamins     Welcome back!
13:55 tcohen      :-D
13:55 kmo78       I had a failing hard drive which is why i think it is failing
13:55 jcamins     kmo78: okay, carry on. I just thought it would be a shame if you transfered your system... and then had another table corrupted due to lack of space.
14:17 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
14:18 mtompset    Thanks for the reply, gmcharlt.
14:18 mtompset    tcohen: You here?
14:18 tcohen      hi mtompset
14:18 tcohen      back on track
14:18 mtompset    Greetings, tcohen. :)
14:19 tcohen      gmcharlt: around?
14:19 gmcharlt    hi tcohen; welcome back
14:21 * chris_n   mumbles something about the boatload of deps asciidoc requires
14:21 gmcharlt    chris_n: just close your eyes when you run apt-get install ;)
14:21 * cait      mumbles something about needins sign-offs for a few bugs
14:22 cait        thers is one from owen to fix the broken tabs
14:22 cait        for once
14:22 cait        that would really make my life easier...and you all want a happy qam right?
14:22 mtompset    cait: Which bug number?
14:22 mtompset    speak of the devil. ;)
14:23 mtompset    Greetings, oleonard. :)
14:23 cait        bug 12094
14:23 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12094 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , jQueryUI upgrade broke default tab selection
14:23 cait        oleonard: i was just trying to persuade mtompset that he really wants to sign off on that one
14:24 mtompset    Yes, so it wasn't anything bad. :)
14:24 mtompset    I'll see if I can, but I make no promises.
14:24 cait        there ar lots of great patches i'd still hope will get a sign off
14:24 cait        some very good work for i18n as well
14:25 cait        from bgkriegel
14:25 mtompset    Oooo... musical flashback.
14:25 mtompset    http://youtu.be/HKdj_olSKhU (Candi - Love makes no promises)
14:25 cait        bug 12017
14:25 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12017 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Move language description out of database
14:25 cait        or bug 10963
14:25 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10963 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Simplified creation of MARC21 sample frameworks
14:25 cait        which pave the way to making frameworks easier translatable using po files
14:27 oleonard    I am literally the Satan of jQueryUI-related patches.
14:29 mtompset    oleonard: Consider yourself a lesser deity that actually just did a localized flood and saved 8 people. I wouldn't go so far as to say you're evil.
14:31 cait        ok i am confused
14:32 cait        relative's checokuts
14:32 cait        shouldn't the parent see what the child has?
14:32 cait        the relative's checkouts tab shows up in my child's account... and not in the parent at all
14:32 mtompset    oleonard: Question about 12094... Why did you remove that IF (suggestion.first) piece?
14:33 oleonard    I mention it in the test plan: I removed it because it didn't appear to be doing anything.
14:33 mtompset    nevermind... I didn't read. :(
14:34 cait        anyone about relative's checkouts?
14:36 cait        the original patch doesn't have much of a test plan
14:42 oleonard    cait, I remember some weirdness about the relatives' checkout tab when I was testing it
14:42 cait        i just wonder if i misunderstood how it should work
14:43 cait        it seemed sense tome that the parents want to see what the childrens have... but that way doesn't seem to work right now
14:43 * oleonard  tries to test it again
14:43 cait        also it shows guarantor instead of child/parent - and ithoguth the lables were more specific
14:43 cait        hm checking my patron categories again
14:44 cait        hmm
14:45 oleonard    The parent/child pair works for me after I re-linked the guarantor to the child account. For some reason it listed the guarantor but it wasn't working at first.
14:45 oleonard    Now I see the parent's checkouts on the child account and vice versa.
14:46 cait        oleonard: yeah i see similar
14:46 cait        the linking seems wrong
14:46 cait        i used the add child button
14:46 cait        and created a new patron from scratch
14:46 cait        after making sure my patron had an adult patron category...
14:47 cait        oleonard: how did you relink?
14:48 cait        i tried searching and clicked on change, but the window wouldn't close and i couldn't see any change, trying again
14:49 oleonard    I edited the child account and found that a patron name was listed as a guarantor but there was no borrowernumber listed. I clicked "set to patron" and selected the correct patron
14:50 cait        hm i tried that
14:50 cait        ... ok trying again, thx for helping!
14:50 oleonard    I see the same in another patron record. I'm not sure why a guarantor would be listed but no borrowernumber linked...
14:50 cait        hm i hve a patron
14:50 cait        my relation is father
14:51 cait        oleonard: i fail :(
14:53 cait        oleonard: what's the label on the oage for you now? gaurantor?
14:53 oleonard    Interesting... it seems to be possible to set someone as guarantor to themselves...
14:53 oleonard    On which page cait?
14:54 cait        the details page
14:55 oleonard    Yes I see Guarantor listed on the detail page
14:55 cait        hmm
14:58 cait        no relative's checkouts for me :(
14:59 cait        the borrowers look good - guarantorid is set and relationship also saved
15:00 cait        ok, i am just dumb.
15:01 cait        I thought i had checked out a book to the child, but apparently I didn't
15:01 * cait      goes to hide somehwere
15:01 oleonard    I wonder why I have some guarantorid's 0 and some NULL
15:03 cait        oleonard: the only ones with 0 i have seem to be imported ones
15:03 cait        would that be possible?
15:03 oleonard    Could be
15:06 cait        but all the trouble was worth it - found a bug in a patch because of it :)
15:12 oleonard    gmcharlt++ # for git-bz update
15:13 cait        yeah :) gmcharlt++
15:24 mtompset    Yes, gmcharlt++ # the git-bz update means I can attempt to sign things off now. :)
15:25 mtompset    oleonard: I'm having trouble testing 12094... The first 3, no problem, but I'm not sure how to replicate the problem in master for the "In Cataloging" step you have in your test plan.
15:26 mtompset    You're talking about a biblio record, correct?
15:26 oleonard    Yes
15:26 mtompset    Home -> Cataloging -> search for something in the search area, and click submit?
15:27 mtompset    Click 'Edit biblio'?
15:27 oleonard    Yes
15:27 mtompset    Choose a tab any tab (not 0)
15:27 mtompset    then Save and continue editing?
15:28 oleonard    Yes
15:28 mtompset    Because ... it's staying on the same tab for me in firefox.
15:29 mtompset    Just tried in IE... same tab...
15:32 mtompset    Do I need to change a value?
15:33 oleonard    No. I just tested in FF and IE and it does work for me.
15:36 mtompset    Because the add biblio part is the only thing I can't replicate.
15:37 mtompset    Everything else is great.
15:38 mtompset    Hmmm... I wonder if there is a detectable script error that disappears. I'd at least be then to sign off. :)
15:39 oleonard    No
15:40 cait        mtompset: if it doesn't break something and fixes all the other spots I would not be too worried
15:41 mtompset    Okay... I'll note it in my sign off then.
15:41 mtompset    Because I think his fix is right.
15:41 mtompset    given that it corrects all the other detectable areas.
15:49 * oleonard  continues to root for Bug 11578 but it has had a tough time
15:49 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11578 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Improvement of the funds list view
15:50 cait        oleonard: does it work for you?
15:50 mtompset    cait: bug 12094 signed off with testing commentary.
15:50 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12094 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , jQueryUI upgrade broke default tab selection
15:51 cait        thx mtompset
15:52 oleonard    cait: At the moment the patch doesn't apply
15:52 cait        oleonard: could you take a look at bug 11703 maybe? I noteda translation issueand wonder if you have an idea
15:52 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
15:53 cait        oleonard: aah, i only remembered that it got stuck somehow :(
15:53 cait        oleonard: translation issue related to Javascript
15:54 oleonard    cait: I saw your comment about the broken-up sentences.
15:54 cait        the problem is that at and from can mean a lot of things...
15:55 cait        gmcharlt: do we have some kind of guidelines what should be attributed for on the abouts.page?
15:56 cait        abouts.pl page - tinking of new libraries, plugins etc.
15:57 oleonard    cait: I thought we had examples of the kind of solution you proposed, with placeholders.
15:57 gmcharlt    looks like not, but basically any third-party additions need to be acknowledged
15:57 gmcharlt    including a reference to the license that allows us to redistribute their stuff as part of Koha
15:57 cait        hm maybe the datatables pagination? i was not sure if it had another name maybe
15:58 cait        gmcharlt: thx - better safe than sorry i guess :)
15:58 gmcharlt    yes
16:01 pastebot    "chris_n" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "git-bz chunks" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/8
16:02 chris_n     any thoughts on why git-bz is blowing chunks?
16:02 * chris_n   just updated
16:03 chris_n     should there be a 'host' entry in the global git config?
16:07 gmcharlt    check that your .git/config includes the various bz settings, including username and password
16:08 chris_n     well, per the wiki, they are in ~/.gitconfig
16:08 chris_n     should they be (also) in .git/config?
16:09 chris_n     it appears not
16:10 chris_n     my config looks like the one here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#As_of_June_2013.E2.80.A6
16:36 pastebot    "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "like this?" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/9
16:37 gmcharlt    chris_n: ^^
16:39 chris_n     not quite: mine was missing 'bz-' before user and password
16:39 * chris_n   had stared at it too long
16:39 chris_n     tnx
16:39 gmcharlt    so long as it didn't start staring back...
16:40 chris_n     well, it was beginning to cut its eyes at me I think
16:40 chris_n     I may have even heard some scheming going on somewhere in the background ;-)
16:42 chris_n     it just kept saying "I'm completely operational, and all my circuits are functioning perfectly. "
16:43 gmcharlt    heh
16:44 oleonard    Ooh, dependency options in git-bz now?
16:45 cait        oleonard: khall says the datatable technique won't work in this case, so no ide a now. hm.
16:45 mtompset    BTW, chris_n, I remember typing 'bug' instead of 'bugs' in my git-bz configuration stuff. Oh the pain and annoyance! So, I empathize. :)
16:49 cait        copying your public key to the server and accidentally deleting the first letter?
17:07 * oleonard  wonders if jquery.textarea-expander.js is really necessary when modern browsers have textarea expansion built in
17:08 oleonard    (Only used by admin/searchengine/solr/indexes.tt)
17:14 gmcharlt    oleonard: I'd think not
17:14 gmcharlt    also, eliminating deps introduced by rarely used code is a Good Thing
17:15 * oleonard  can't properly test since he doesn't have Solr installed
17:16 cait        i think the admin area might show up without, but haven't tested if oyu can edit
17:17 * cait      tries and fails
17:17 cait        thought it sued to work
17:26 oleonard    jcamins around, or is he conferencing?
17:26 cait        i think conferencing is wednesday
17:26 cait        might be packing cookies
17:27 * jcamins   is *barely* here.
17:27 oleonard    jcamins: offline-mf.tt is only relevant to offline circ, right, not to any other pages?
17:27 jcamins     This is correct.
17:27 * oleonard  sees some YUI assets in offline-mf.tt that I think are not necessary
17:28 jcamins     It should list the files that are required by the boilerplate Koha staff client template.
17:29 jcamins     So chances are good it's not necessary.
17:29 oleonard    Okay then they can safely be removed from the manifest.
17:29 * oleonard  files a bug
17:29 oleonard    Thanks jcamins
17:30 jcamins     You're welcome.
17:51 kmo78       cait - i ws able to do a mysqldump except for the one corrupt biblio_framework and I've setup a new install of koha on a new debian machine. I've imported the dump into the new system. The biblio_framework table is there on the new machine but it obviosly has not data. What would you recommend?
17:53 cait        ok
17:53 cait        run
17:53 cait        select distinct frameworkcode from marc_tag_structure
17:54 cait        it will give you a lit of codes, one line will be empty
17:54 cait        tell me when you are there?
17:54 chris_n     does anyone have some arabic records handy?
17:54 chris_n     maybe some german ones too? :-)
17:54 cait        hm there was a bug with nice examples some time ago
17:55 * cait      tries to remember where that was
17:55 chris_n     it would be nice to attach a few to 8375
17:55 cait        bug 9579
17:55 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9579 major, P1 - high, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Facets truncation broken for multi-byte characters
17:55 kmo78       I'm running this on the old server, correct?
17:55 kmo78       AR, BKS, CF, FA, IR, KT, SER, SR, VR
17:55 cait        records from karam
17:56 kmo78       and one seems to be blank
17:56 cait        kmo78: it should be the same old and new - because this table should be on both
17:56 cait        great
17:56 cait        that looks like the sample frameworks had been installed
17:56 cait        so all standard :)
17:56 cait        one second
17:56 chris_n     tnx cait
17:57 cait        i think easiest for german records is pulling some from oneof our catalogs, but i have problems with encoding if i sent a cart - i haven't investigated what happens there so far - wonder if it outputs marc-8 or just something totally weird
17:58 kmo78       I ran it on both machines and I get the same results
17:58 cait        kmo78: like it should be :)
17:58 cait        so what biblio_frameworks does
17:58 cait        it just give a description to the code
17:58 cait        kmo78: which language are you using?
17:58 kmo78       english
17:59 cait        kmo78: so here is it: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/marcflavour/marc21/optional/marc21_simple_bib_frameworks.sql;h=d0a2591405bb9863e597e79d53f3bea69ecf0e18;hb=HEAD#l82
17:59 kmo78       As far as I can tell it looks like everything is working correctly
18:00 cait        kmo78: when you into cataloguing the pull down for the frameworks will be empty i think
18:01 cait        see the lines at the top of the page i sent you?
18:02 cait        the codes listed there should match your list
18:02 cait        if it does, you can just run the insert command as it is there
18:03 kmo78       what if it doesnt/
18:03 kmo78       ?
18:04 cait        how does it differ?
18:04 kmo78       I have one that is FA
18:04 kmo78       that I don't see listed
18:04 cait        ah yeah
18:04 cait        we will take care of that next
18:04 cait        run the insert
18:05 kmo78       are you talking about the insert into? If so, which one?
18:06 cait        the one at the line at the top of th epatch
18:06 cait        page
18:06 cait        line 82 - 90
18:08 kmo78       got it
18:08 kmo78       thats complete now
18:08 cait        so now you need to add another line FA = Fast Add
18:09 cait        you can either do that using the phpmyadmin features for adding data into  a table
18:09 cait        or you could craft another insert
18:09 kmo78       i added FA
18:09 cait        INSERT INTO biblio_framework (frameworkcode, frameworktext) VALUES ('FA', 'Fast Add');
18:09 cait        ok
18:09 cait        then we should be done
18:10 kmo78       awesome
18:10 cait        as i said
18:10 cait        not the most horrible data to lose
18:10 cait        :)
18:10 kmo78       I can't thank you enough
18:10 cait        hope it all works now
18:10 cait        when you go into cataloguing
18:10 cait        there should be a pull down, now showing our list of frameworks
18:10 kmo78       ah yea
18:10 kmo78       it is there
18:11 kmo78       thanks again for all of the help. I truly appreciate it
18:12 cait        kmo78: backups! :)
18:16 kmo78       I just took over here and I've got tons of things to clean up
18:17 kmo78       Isn't there a setting in koha to do auto backup?
18:20 mtompset    kmo78: I think it does a default 2 day backup already.
18:23 mtompset    packages provide a command koha-run-backups
18:23 mtompset    http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commands_provided_by_the_Debian_packages#koha-run-backups
18:24 mtompset    It is part of the default daily cronjobs added.
18:24 mtompset    That is in: /etc/cron.daily/koha-common
18:36 fprior      Hi all; I would ask you an help: If I login in Koha as Admin I can see location for each book, but if I login as user the info is not shown; how can I solve this trouble ?
18:37 oleonard    What page are you looking at in the staff client fprior?
18:37 fprior      opac-detail.pl
18:38 cait        is ther ea second tab maybe?
18:38 cait        other holdidngs or similar?
18:41 fprior      As client I can see three tabs: normal , MARC View, ISBD View; in none I read the location
18:41 cait        I meant the tabs on the items table
18:41 oleonard    fprior: Does your record have no holdings? No items attached?
18:43 fprior      oh yes, it have an item attached; information I need to show to client is saved in Table "items", field "location"
18:44 oleonard    fprior: That is shelving location, and it is displayed in the call number column of the holdings table on opac-detail.pl
18:44 oleonard    Wait is that right? Or with the library?
18:44 * oleonard  can't remember now, doesn't use location
18:45 oleonard    fprior: Do you have shelving locations set up in authorized values?
18:47 fprior      shelving locations contains 4 records, ids from 1 to 4
18:47 cait        oleonard: it shows below the library normally
18:47 cait        italic
18:47 fprior      http://pastebin.com/SjWbWsQG
18:48 cait        the category should be LOC
18:48 cait        not YES_NO
18:48 cait        YES_NO i suppsoed to be just that, yes and no, for a pull down
18:49 cait        authorized_values holds lots of lists of values used in different places, you can edit those in administration > authorised values
18:52 fprior      in mine ListBox in Admin --> Authorized values contain: http://pastebin.com/XXar6svy
18:52 cait        you want to add a new one
18:53 cait        new category LOC
19:04 fprior      cait, in table authorized_values ? LOC, 1, yes, yes ?
19:04 cait        you should not edit the database directly
19:04 cait        use the gui
19:05 cait        the category is LOC, the code can be numeric, but can also be a short alphanumeric code
19:05 cait        and then the descriptions
19:07 fprior      ok, from GUI, I put 1 as value, LOC as category, LOC as description and description (opac)
19:08 cait        the description should be someting like
19:08 cait        first floor
19:08 cait        rare materials department
19:08 cait        shelf left from entrance...
19:09 cait        whatever you want users to read in the opac
19:09 cait        you crate a list with locations, then you can use them in catalouging
19:11 fprior      Ok, let me explain; In items table, field location, I have inserted multiples codes like "2E 526" that is Shelf 2 in section E and the book is at 526 position (I'm simplify but it is my location)
19:11 fprior      so this information is different for any item book
19:11 cait        hm that should looks more like a callnumber
19:12 fprior      I would to show the information (no matter if it is not showed in location field) at client page
19:12 cait        instead of a location
19:12 cait        did you use callnumber at all?
19:12 fprior      I don't know the correct term
19:12 cait        a callnumber is what is on the label at the back of the book
19:12 cait        used to locate the book on the shelf
19:13 cait        when it's different for each book, i would not recommend using location, but go for callnumber
19:13 fprior      no no, somethink codebar ? No this is the numerical location in the library
19:13 cait        not the barcode
19:13 cait        that is anotherfield
19:13 fprior      I can update callnumber for each book with the same info at location field if necesary
19:13 cait        i would do that and later empty out location
19:14 fprior      I can see the itemcallnumber field; now I'll update this field and write you if it appear in client page
19:17 fprior      Ok ! now in the item details appears the topographic signature with the value I put in table
19:17 cait        good
19:19 fprior      cait thank you !
19:29 oleonard    Bye #koha
19:38 barton      'craban> 2014/04/21 15:33 WARN hch shiver SHIVER ME TIMBERS - 80% shivered (1561 MB out of 1953 MB)'
19:39 barton      how the heck did I end up in #koha?
19:39 cait        um...
19:39 cait        i heard you started working for that koha company
19:40 barton      well, there was that, yes.
19:40 pianohacker nah, we don't do any koha here
19:40 cait        hi pianohacker
19:40 cait        right, this is the cookie baking channel
19:40 pianohacker cait: saw your later, I'll fix that in the qa followup
19:40 cait        #kohails is next door
19:40 pianohacker the cookie followup I mean
19:40 barton      I was happily typing away in #bywater, and suddently ...
19:41 cait        a cookie followup will be highly appreciated
19:41 cait        pianohacker: did you get the email too? now i tihnk i should have just added it to the bug
19:41 cait        guess i was tired :)
19:41 barton      OM-NOM-NOM-NOM!!!!
19:42 cait        jcamins: i suspect barton is the cookie monster...quick, hide the cookies!
19:42 barton      welcome to magic cookieland ...
19:45 cait        edveal must have sensed the cookied
19:45 cait        cookies
19:46 edveal      Yes, cookies…. :)
19:46 jcamins     cait: Barton will not be permitted to have cookies unless he shows up at NY Tech Day on Thursday. That is the rule.
19:47 cait        jcamins: maybe there will be leftovers...
19:48 barton      cookied: cookie server?
19:49 jcamins     cait: I got bored, so there will only be 500 baggies.
19:49 jcamins     Since there are expected to be more than 10k visitors...
19:49 jcamins     it doesn't seem likely.
19:49 barton      jcamins: while NY Tech Day sounds like fun, barton will not be there. Probably just as well, his waistline doesn't need more cookies.
19:49 cait        why 500? you had almost 2000 cookies!
19:50 jcamins     cait: no, I had about 1500 cookies, and I got bored of bagging them.
19:50 cait        so what are you doing with the unbagged cookies?
19:50 jcamins     Several hundred came out poorly. :(
19:50 barton      jcamins: read that as bagginses.
19:50 cait        oh
19:51 jcamins     There are probably another hundred bags worth of cookies, so I'll bag them if I have time.
19:51 cait        just take a big box... send to germany
19:51 cait        problem solved :)
19:51 jcamins     lol
19:52 * jcamins   runs out to get a haircut.
19:59 * chris_n   quits pounding his head against the wall and goes home for the day
20:01 * cait      falls asleep
20:26 bag         hi
22:07 mtompset    Greetings, bag.
22:14 eythian     hi
22:25 mtompset    Greetings, eythian.
22:42 eythian     mtompset: bug 9165 applys cleanly again.
22:42 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9165 enhancement, P4, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Allow preventing passwords from being stored locally when using LDAP
22:50 mtompset    Thanks. Don't know if I'll get to it today, but it's good to keep the "Patch does not apply" list down. :)
23:22 BobB        morning all
23:22 * BobB      is hoping for a quiet week between Easter and Anzac
23:23 dcook       heya, BobB
23:23 dcook       Hear hear
23:25 bag         heya BobB
23:25 BobB        hi bag, hi dcook
23:27 dcook       Have a good Easter?
23:28 BobB        yep, stayed in Sydney.  Family time, quiet time, some sport.  Very good.
23:32 dcook       Sounds nice :)
23:45 talljoy     ack
23:45 talljoy     ha
23:45 talljoy     back, not ack
23:48 bag         welcome ack talljoy