Time Nick Message 23:45 BobB hey bag 23:44 bag also wizzyrea and eythian 23:44 bag hey BobB 23:43 eythian http://magshop.com.au/most-dangerous-spiders <-- read this before you go. It's probably quite a long book. 23:38 BobB come on over, you'll love it (if you live long enough) 23:37 wizzyrea hahahaha 23:37 BobB you're lucky to be alive :) 23:37 BobB because between the spiders, the snakes, the crocodiles, the stone fish, the box jelly .... 23:36 BobB wizzyrea, Australia is the lucky country 23:30 wahanui OK, eythian. 23:30 eythian wahanui: earworm is http://youtu.be/QH2-TGUlwu4 22:58 wizzyrea you can kind of talk to tuis, that's fun. 22:58 wizzyrea between the spiders, the snakes, and the tree climbing crocodiles, I'll take the Tui and the Kiwi thanks. 22:56 wizzyrea have I mentioned lately how glad I am that I don't live in Australia 22:53 eythian http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/news/2014/02/crocodiles-can-climb-trees <-- terrifying news of the day 22:50 cjh I agree. 22:49 wizzyrea er in the intranet I mean 22:49 wizzyrea can that result browse feature in the OPAC be turned off? 22:26 wizzyrea I didn't see anything in the bugs 22:26 wizzyrea has anyone noticed that deleting bibs brings back a Can't call method "title" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/addbiblio.pl line 835 error? 22:18 huginn 04Bug 11369: major, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Passed QA , Too many search cursor cookies overflow HTTP-header size, when making multiple searches in the staff client. 22:18 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11369 is biting us as well 20:39 cait i can be a bit patient :) 20:39 cait it's ok 20:39 rambutan or here: http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html 20:38 rambutan try to load it from here: http://anonymouse.org/anonwww_de.html 20:37 cait i bet itworks later 20:37 cait i will just wait 20:37 cait nope 20:35 rambutan try https.... 20:34 rambutan using a proxy? web filter? 20:34 rambutan can you load just http://opensource.com 20:34 cait white page 20:33 cait just timing out... 20:33 cait nothing 20:33 rambutan what error messages are you getting? 20:33 rambutan force refresh? 20:33 rambutan clear your cache? 20:31 cait why is that? :( 20:31 cait still not loading for me 20:29 rangi just that first paragraph is from the old article 20:28 rangi its a rewrite by Jo :) 20:28 rangi its not 20:28 rangi ahh no 20:28 rangi without attribution 20:28 rangi article 20:28 rangi looks like repost of the code4lib journal 20:24 cait sniff 20:24 ibeardslee hmm 20:24 rambutan me2 20:24 jcamins Loaded for me. 20:23 cait hm doesn't load for me 20:13 ibeardslee In case it hasn't been posted yet .. http://opensource.com/education/14/4/story-of-koha-lms 20:12 oleonard Gotta run. Bye #koha 20:10 * chris_n heads out 20:00 chris_n yuk 20:00 chris_n it looks like fnClearTable nukes the entire table and we loose the click handler for the quote id column 19:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11369 major, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Passed QA , Too many search cursor cookies overflow HTTP-header size, when making multiple searches in the staff client. 19:55 oleonard Wow Bug 11369 is hitting us hard after upgrading to 3.14 19:55 jcamins barton: hehe. 19:53 * barton wonders whether 10k techies rounds up to 16384 or down to 8192. 19:47 jcamins barton: oh yeah. 19:46 barton jcamins: well, lets hope that they do -- although that could make for a *very* busy jcamins :-) 19:45 jcamins barton: in just over a week we'll know whether 10k techies agree with you or not. 19:41 * barton agrees: Biblionarrator definitely looks slick. 19:39 chris_n I bet we loose something here: that.oApi._fnClearTable( oSettings ); 19:35 * jcamins certainly thinks so! 19:34 rambutan jcamins++ 19:34 rambutan jcamins: hey, looks like a cool project 19:33 jcamins Yeah, I'm exhibiting Biblionarrator a week from Thursday. 19:30 oleonard exhibition? 19:29 jcamins oleonard: hello. It turns out that preparing for an exhibition at the last minute is time-consuming. 19:29 jcamins It uses != when it should use !== 19:29 jcamins Hrm. Looks like the bug was only in the if statements. 19:28 chris_n its incredible how one can write code and two years later it looks like a foreign language 19:27 chris_n jcamins: it looks like some of the handlers are missing after the redraw 19:26 oleonard Hi jcamins, long time no read 19:26 jcamins Lemme see if I can figure out what the bugs were. 19:25 * jcamins figured since no one had noticed them in Koha that there were alternate workarounds in place. 19:25 jcamins chris_n: oh, yeah, there were a few bugs. 19:23 * chris_n suspects something is wrong with fnReloadAjax() 19:11 chris_n or it may be a problem with something executing out of sync 19:11 chris_n probably some bad/missing js somewhere 19:10 chris_n I'm definitely seeing the problem with subsequent selections 19:09 oleonard Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't 19:09 oleonard But subsequent selection of quotes seems randomly problematic 19:09 oleonard Deleting quotes worked for met that time chris_n 19:08 * chris_n waves back at cait 19:08 chris_n #7? 19:08 chris_n which "it?" :-) 19:07 * cait waves 19:06 oleonard Good news (?) chris_n... Now it works :P 19:01 chris_n maybe the other problem will stick its head up in the meantime 19:01 chris_n well, I'll debug the problem I do see and go from there 19:00 chris_n I assume you're using FF? 18:59 chris_n that's odd as that step is definitely not db related 18:57 oleonard chris_n: I have not tested with a fresh database, but steps 4-7 don't match what I see. #7 doesn't happen. 18:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8797 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, ASSIGNED , can't delete quote of the day 18:51 chris_n oleonard: can you look at my last comment on bug 8797 and see if that agrees with what you were seeing? 18:40 oleonard I <3 git bz 18:33 chris_n wonder why we offer the option of unchecking "mandatory" "options?" That all seems a bit of an oxymoron 18:14 * oleonard shakes his fist at JavaScript 18:14 oleonard A thing which works on one thing should work on another thing, right? That's a thing? 17:11 kivilahtio I assume it is not safe to use overdue_notices.pl and advance_notices.pl simultaneously? 16:34 vfernandes bye :) 16:20 rambutan and the University of Missouri wasn't all that big 16:20 rambutan I really miss the large-campus educational environment 16:18 sekjal rambutan: URL is http://library.umass.edu, but the new version is in testing elsewhere 16:17 rambutan sekjal: what's your <library's?> website? 16:17 oleonard How lovely. 16:17 sekjal at least, I think they are... I'm not sure I could see them through the massive counter-protest 16:17 sekjal Westboro Baptist is on campus today protesting the coming out of one of UMass's football players 16:07 ashimema and the new cataloging editor looks awesome 16:07 ashimema It'll be a nice addition.. fingers crossed it fits together nicely with it all though. 16:06 sekjal oooh. ES is pretty awesome 15:56 gmcharlt also, work on support for Elastic Search as an alternative for OPAC searching 15:55 gmcharlt sekjal: a new cataloging editor is likely going to be the biggest additiona to 3.16 15:53 sekjal :) 15:50 oleonard When we get it working we'll have told you last week. 15:49 oleonard But keep it under your hat. 15:49 oleonard Time travel. 15:47 sekjal so what's the latest hot development for Koha? anything particular in the works for the next version? 15:43 sekjal bye, cait 15:43 cait have to run off again :) bye all! 15:43 sekjal thanks, gmcharlt (and hi!) 15:39 gmcharlt sekjal: congrats! 15:38 bag oh congrats 15:35 sekjal thanks! we're really excited 15:35 talljoy great news! 15:35 cait sekjal: congratulations? :) 15:35 oleonard Congratulations in advance sekjal 15:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12081: make tmpl_process3.pl delete ts temp files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=de81d7abe43f3c2eed327b52e212bc790b406961> / Bug 11630: (follow-up) tighten up code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b324e893e86730378f633db0537eb0048c6b8a35> / Bug 11630: (follow-up) unit tests can be independent of DB <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commi 15:35 sekjal here's hoping it doesn't catch fire 15:35 sekjal best part, though, is that about 3 weeks after the site goes live, I go on paternity leave for 6 months. 15:33 reiveune bye 15:33 bag sekjal++ 15:32 sekjal got a tight deadline with the new library website (this Fall), but I'm making progress 15:32 sekjal been well 15:32 sekjal hi, talljoy! 15:32 bag how you been - long time since we've had an ian sighting in #koha 15:31 talljoy hi sekjal! 15:31 sekjal hey, bag! 15:31 bag hey sekjal 15:28 sekjal I was pleased to see the new Bootstrap OPAC theme in 3.14 15:25 sekjal hi, cait! 15:24 * cait waves at sekjal 15:23 sekjal and Zurb Foundation as the responsive frontend 15:23 sekjal yup, SilverStripe, and now ElasticSearch as a backend for the searching 15:23 oleonard What are you working with these days sekjal? Same CMS? 15:21 sekjal working on my libraries' new website, was on IRC, and figured it'd been too long since I popped into #koha 15:20 sekjal hi, oleonard! 15:20 oleonard Hi sekjal, what's up? 15:19 sekjal greetings, #koha 15:18 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 12.0°C (5:00 PM CEST on April 16, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.32 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 15:18 cait @wunder Konstanz 15:13 cait bookstore cafe with free wifi... :) 15:13 * cait waves 15:13 Joubu s/afak/afk :) 15:12 Joubu Have fun #koha 15:12 * Joubu will be afak for 1 week. 14:57 nengard have to go in to webinar - feel free to close of course :) 14:57 nengard oleonard - of course you can :) so tired 14:56 ashimema sounds reasonable 14:55 ashimema i'm tempted to say.. turn on EDI and set Location for files under config file, but let staff add edi accounts via the staff client. 14:54 ashimema for consistancy should the edi configuration per vendor go into the config file serverside (like for shibboleth or ldap configuration).. or should we let librarians do 'half' the configuration from the staff client 14:53 ashimema EDI requires some server side configuration, in that you need to open ports for ftp/sftp out, set a location to drop files that get transferred and processed. 14:53 oleonard nengard: You can upload multiple cover images as a zip file 14:52 ashimema random question for devs out there.. 14:32 Joubu kivilahtio: Don't worry, not for a long time 14:29 kivilahtio Joubu: why are you here? 14:13 Joubu I am in holiday tonight :) 14:11 kivilahtio We are having a holiday this friday, that is cool 14:10 Joubu I don't think I wrote it 14:08 kivilahtio Joubu: you didnt do it or you dont find it neat? 14:08 Joubu kivilahtio: hum, I don't think so 14:05 kivilahtio Just wanted to say that hte default messaging preferences for patron categories is an awesome feature! Blame Joubu? :) 13:59 ashimema or I convert thme to marcxml and import that instead... but you may still get the same issue, just later in the chain. 13:59 ashimema I tend to clean up my marc records before throwing them at bulkmarcimport.. 13:59 ashimema I aslo can't remembe if the import continues, or aborts at that point.. 13:59 ashimema but i'm not 100% sure without looking at the code.. 13:58 ashimema I beleive that, that one record will not be imported.. 13:58 vfernandes but it's still imported? 13:56 ashimema vfernandes.. it means exactly what it say ;) That your MARC record is too big 13:54 rambutan catalogers seem to think that merge authorities in 3.14 is a very good thing 13:50 vfernandes using bulkmarcimport if this error Record length of 177484 is larger than the MARC spec allows (99999 bytes). at /usr/share/perl5/MARC/File/USMARC.pm line 313 happens, what means? 13:49 vfernandes hi :) 13:46 oleonard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw39tcyg7So 13:41 mtompset -- No, blame Canada! (http://youtu.be/_aY9Ensgd0c) ;) 13:40 oleonard I blame society. 13:40 mtompset I'm sure you'll get it fixed. 13:40 mtompset Takes a man to own up to flaws, oleonard. :) 13:32 oleonard First the keyboard shortcut thing, now a problem with default tabs not being selected correctly (as we talked about yesterday cait) 13:32 oleonard Buggy. 13:31 ashimema oh? 13:29 oleonard My jQueryUI upgrade patch was not my best work. 13:16 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 13:10 cait heh 13:00 oleonard Yeah that's how young you are huginn 13:00 huginn oleonard: I have not seen shedges. 13:00 oleonard @seen shedges 13:00 oleonard What do you know, shedges is still on the Koha list? 12:55 barton rambutan: anything you needed? 12:55 cait lol 12:55 talljoy heh 12:55 barton cait: please do be aware that this causes mild electrocution. Don't be afraid to use it, but don't lean on the button ;-) 12:54 talljoy :-) 12:53 * cait has to try that sometime :) 12:53 barton hellooo? 12:53 talljoy you rang? 12:53 talljoy yes? 12:53 rambutan ping talljoy barton 12:49 cait hi oleonard 12:28 oleonard Hi everyone 11:41 cait ashimema++ 10:06 wahanui rumour has it packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 10:06 cait packages 10:04 ashimema but as it's a system task, rather than an instance task in pacakges that's somewhat more difficult 10:04 ashimema just comment the cron.. 10:04 ashimema it was easy on the old installs.. 10:04 ashimema hmmm 10:03 cait but that's not ideal 10:03 cait you could deactivate in the patron category... 10:03 cait hm 10:01 ashimema only overdues.. not emails total. 10:01 ashimema in packages.. how would one enable and disable overdue emails on a per instance basis.. 07:56 cait ok :) 07:55 Joubu cait: I will provide a followup asap 07:55 cait have to work on a few non-koha things first today, but coming back to it later 07:55 cait if you agree i can do the follow up too - whoever gets to it first :) 07:55 Joubu cait: yep I saw your comment, good catch! 07:53 cait Joubu: i think i found the problem with the card view last night :) 07:36 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 07:36 Joubu @later tell oleonard No really, that does not make sense. It is a useless restriction. 07:24 cait hi Joubu 07:13 wahanui hola, Joubu 07:13 Joubu hello 06:55 alex_a bonjour 06:46 cait good morning everyone :) 06:34 wahanui privet, reiveune 06:34 reiveune hello 04:41 wizzyrea actually I think barton may have illustrated that the print css for that page hasn't been touched for bootstrap - I could be wrong but it looks like it hasn't had a proper going over. 04:40 wizzyrea at least you're trying ;) 04:34 mtompset Have a great day, #koha wizzyrea barton_away eythian paxed 04:33 mtompset Perhaps I'm turning into a pumpkin. 04:33 mtompset Though, it is after midnight. 04:33 mtompset because I know that if I fixed everything that annoyed me, I'd never sleep. 04:33 mtompset better. :) 04:33 wizzyrea then you can sleep soundly knowing your annoyances are being fixed. 04:32 wizzyrea let me revise, you should either fix it or pay someone to fix it. 04:32 mtompset No, no... don't use that criteria. You'll never sleep! :) 04:31 wizzyrea a print css for that page might make some sense but yeah, you should fix it if it annoys you ;) 04:28 barton It's late here in +5 GMT, see y'all on the flipside. 04:27 barton ok. makes sense. 04:26 eythian it was their own fault for looking ugly due to the URLs. 04:26 barton but what if my bug report murders children? ;-) 04:25 eythian yeah, if it's looking not correct, then it's not correct. 04:23 rangi if it looks bad fix it 04:23 rangi who cares 04:22 barton URLs => good, Frkd_formatting => bad -- so is this bug or feature? 04:22 barton ... anyway, the deal, as far as I can tell, is that the URLs added to the printed page are frking up the spacing on the page in a most serious way... 04:20 barton yes, yes, my update murders children... 04:19 barton and click the 'print' link, the formatting of the printed page looks --- weird. 04:19 wahanui OK, eythian. 04:19 eythian wahanui: feature or bug is https://xkcd.com/1172/ 04:19 barton If I go to http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=48001&query_desc=kw%2Cwrdl%3A%20practical%20open%20source 04:18 barton so ... I have a 'is this a feature or a bug' question ... 04:17 paxed lovely start to a morning, indeed. 04:15 barton paxed: oh frabjus day ;-/ 04:14 paxed grrr 04:14 paxed oh, hey, lovely. members/member.pl?quicksearch=1&surname=Ä shows patrons with surname A. 04:13 barton Evening, all... 03:11 jmsasse bag: got your ears on? 02:28 wahanui eythian: sure thing 02:28 eythian wahanui: literal thanks ants 02:28 eythian it probably doesn't work though 02:28 wahanui eythian: sure thing 02:28 eythian wahanui: thanks, ants 02:28 wahanui bitte eythian 02:28 eythian wahanui: thanks ants 02:28 eythian I'm not. I'm telling wahanui what a thorax is. 02:24 mtompset Why are you telling wahanui what Lorax is? 02:23 wahanui eythian: no problem 02:23 eythian wahanui: Thanks, Lorax is <reply> Thorax 02:14 mtompset Greetings, jmsasse. 02:09 jmsasse Hello community 01:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8649 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, CLOSED FIXED, C4::Search needs a unit test 01:22 gmcharlt jcamins: I don't suppose you happen to have the original bib export for the test cases added in bug 8649? 01:18 gmcharlt pianohacker++ 01:15 pianohacker so do I, wahanui. So do I 01:15 wahanui I watch you sleep. 01:15 pianohacker good night 01:03 pianohacker oh, those are based on the XML. That should be clarified 01:03 pianohacker ah okay :) 01:03 dac pianohacker++ 00:58 pianohacker gmcharlt: Actual visible fixed-field widgets: http://imgur.com/tnfzYqe 00:15 * eythian -> curry 00:15 eythian speaking of 00:08 eythian after lunch I'll build some stats from that. 00:07 eythian wow, it's pretty steadily busy 00:05 gmcharlt great 00:05 eythian gmcharlt: cheers, all grabbed