Time Nick Message 01:34 mtompset flash player update. 02:07 nc-th Hi everyone! I am using Koha 3.08. I have a question on "Fast Add Framework". I left out tag 082 when I edited the framework. When I actually catalog, 082 keeps showing up. Anywhere else should I look into fixing this? 02:08 dcook nc-th: You might need to clear your cache if you're using memcached 02:09 dcook Try: echo 'flush_all' | nc localhost 11211 02:10 dcook Where 11211 is the port for your memcached server 02:12 nc-th dcook: thanks a lot. I will try. 02:13 dcook The other idea might be that you're accidentally using the default framework instead of the FA framework ;). 02:13 dcook But I've had the caching thing happen to me quite a few times so hopefully that's it 02:13 dcook Btw, you can find out the memcached server port by consulting your koha-conf.xml 02:32 gml hello people, please a question more on here (i couldn't find this on google search): is the "<no file>" part in the following line from the zebrasrv log an error, or it's normal operation? 02:32 gml **:**:**-09/04 zebrasrv(3435) [log] add grs.xml <no file> 0 02:36 gml because in another zebra cases, like in http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipermail/zebralist/2006-November/001295.html (it's possible that this one isn't related with koha) this line appears as: 13:06:57-27/11 zebraidx(11624) [log] add grs.xml records/record_777776.xml 0 02:39 gml I was debugging zebraqueue_daemon.pl, but it's not returning any error (via the "warn lines" i can see in the console, neither in /var/log/messages) 02:42 eythian http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/skoda/auction-715522731.htm 02:46 Sean HI all, print hold notices question.... 02:48 Sean 11 branches, and having print notices generated based on patron home library is causing big problems. Can these notices be based upon pickup location instead? 04:59 dcook So I was getting yaz-client seg faults... 04:59 dcook And eventually I figured out it was due to a bad .yazclient.history file. 04:59 * dcook loves strace 05:05 dcook No idea why the .yazclient.history file was bad. Looked perfectly fine. 05:06 dcook Also turns out that Zebra doesn't like it when a distro puts Zebra in lib64 rather than lib...all the badness O_O 05:06 dcook Silent badness 05:07 eythian it _shouldn't_ matter 05:07 eythian unless there's two different versions (different arches?) and it hits the wrong one first. 05:12 dcook Well, it seems to only look in /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib, so it wasn't finding it at all. 05:12 dcook But yeah, I think the silent part is that it was finding some libs from an older version 05:12 * dcook isn't sure why the older version was still around, of cours 05:12 dcook e 05:13 dcook "it" being rebuild_zebra.pl that is 05:14 dcook I've only started noticing a lib64 on servers recently 05:24 eythian hmm, it might not be in ld.whateveritis 05:24 eythian ld.so.conf 05:35 dcook ld.so.conf? 05:35 eythian /etc/$1 05:35 dcook Interesting 05:35 wahanui well, Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 05:38 dcook It looks like those are linked at run time so they're probably all right...just hitting the wrong one first like you say 05:59 * magnuse waves 05:59 wajasu man idzebra-config 06:02 eythian wrongwindow.com ? 06:02 wajasu ldd /usr/bin/yaz-client 06:05 dcook Much appreciated, wajasu. I already knew the lib64 modules were the ones I wanted 06:05 dcook But rebuild_zebra.pl only points to lib 06:06 dcook But ld.so.conf should link lib64 in at runtime it seems 06:06 dcook But the old modules were getting in the way it would appear 06:06 dcook ldd seems neat though 06:06 dcook Ah... 06:07 dcook ldd invokes the dynamic linker 06:07 dcook That's extra cool 06:08 * dcook re-reads what he wrote 06:08 dcook It just sounds weird now :p 06:09 dcook Yaz-client seemed all right, btw. I think it was zebraidx that was having no fun. 06:15 wajasu dcook: don't know if you are in the position to run dev installs for that preliminary bug 11232 patch for zebra facets. its in assigned state. i still need to add unimarc, but that can be a followup. 06:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Retrieve facets from Zebra 06:17 dcook Alas, I don't have much time at the moment. I'm focusing more on local stuff at the moment, unfortunately. 06:18 wajasu i think i have another week so to work on it, but if i disappear for a few months i know i will forget all the search stuff i learned. so thats why i checked it in. 06:19 wajasu i think folks will be focues on apr 24th release efforts, which it probably won't be apart of. 06:24 dcook I know I certainly appreciate you taking the time to make a patch :) 06:25 dcook Yeah, given that 3.16's deadlines are coming up, I'm focusing more on small stuff. 06:25 dcook Well, local stuff first, then whatever small stuff that can go back upstream. 06:31 marcelr hi #koha 06:33 dcook yo marcelr 06:33 marcelr hi dcook 06:41 reiveune hello 06:41 dcook salut reiveune 06:42 reiveune bonjour dcook magnuse rangi :) 06:42 magnuse bonjour reiveune 06:47 magnuse @wunder marseille 06:47 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 8.8°C (8:47 AM CEST on April 10, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). 06:47 magnuse @wunder boo 06:47 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on April 10, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 06:58 alex_a bonjour 07:00 dcook @wunder sydney, australia 07:00 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 22.0°C (4:30 PM EST on April 10, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 07:00 dcook salut alex_a 07:00 dcook magnuse: Isn't it supposed to be spring there? 07:00 dcook I suppose there is still snow back home in Canada... 07:04 magnuse dcook: nah, a little bit early 07:04 magnuse well, it actually feels like spring now, but that temp is pretty normal 07:21 trongtritran91 alo 07:21 trongtritran91 please help me 07:23 trongtritran91 helo everyone 07:26 paxed why is RESERVESLIP printed for both transfers AND reserves? shouldn't there be different slips for each? 07:46 * magnuse wonders if that really is khall or just some sleepless ghost 07:57 dcook all right time to go! 07:58 dcook Movie night w/ wife! 08:00 magnuse have fun dcook 08:03 trongtritran91 oh, when i search in box of koha 08:03 trongtritran91 result is not well 08:04 trongtritran91 ex; my book name is: Láºp Trình C 08:05 trongtritran91 when i type in search box: Láºp Trình C is result wel 08:05 trongtritran91 but i type in search book: lap trinh c is no result . 08:05 trongtritran91 help me 08:11 trongtritran91 please! help me 09:17 magnuse hiya matts and atheia 09:18 atheia Morning magnuse. 09:21 vfernandes hi :) 09:36 paxed i've got a patch that changes the date calculation for reserve expiration so it skips all holidays. would anyone else be interested in that? 09:37 magnuse sounds like a good thing to me 09:42 atheia Sounds good indeed — but may need a preference to switch it on and off? 09:43 paxed and it would need the some extra test written for Calendar, but I have never done any of those. 09:43 paxed s/the // 09:54 paxed bug 12063 09:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Change date calculation for reserve expiration to skip all holidays 10:44 vfernandes z3950 searching not working... what can I do? 10:45 vfernandes there is the need to open some specific port? 10:46 vfernandes i've compared two of mine Koha installation: one on my server which is working, another on client server which is not working 12:25 oleonard Hi #koha 12:28 magnuse hiya oleonard 12:57 * chris_n is looking for someone with a working 3.12 koha to confirm bug 12064 12:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12064 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, In Discussion , labels that don't use the splitter print zeros 13:56 rhcl This could be interesting. I wanna watch. 13:57 oleonard ? 14:34 rhcl @wunder 64507 14:34 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 16.3°C (9:34 AM CDT on April 10, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Rising). 14:45 oleonard Hi paul_p, still traveling? 14:46 paul_p hi oleonard, yes, still in moldova ;-) 14:46 paul_p will be back on saturday morning 14:47 gmcharlt paul_p: neat! 14:49 oleonard chris_n still around? 15:02 reiveune bye 15:18 oleonard Thousands of websites still hosted on Windows XP http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2014/04/08/thousands-of-websites-still-hosted-on-windows-xp.html 15:18 oleonard The best bit: "Netcraft's April 2014 survey also found 50,000 websites which are hosted on even older Windows NT4 servers running Microsoft IIS 4.0, although three quarters of these sites are served from the same computer in Norway." 15:18 * oleonard looks pointedly at magnuse 15:19 gmcharlt :) 15:22 druthb magnuse! 15:22 wahanui magnuse is a Norwegian giant. 15:30 oleonard Oh great, renewals from circ/renew.pl are entered into the statistics table with no branch >:( 15:50 * wajasu still has unix servers running from the 80's and early 90's. amazed the boxes are still up. 16:21 bag morning 16:21 wahanui i think morning is a state of cat 16:21 bag magnuse HI 16:27 druthb hi, bag! 16:36 bag heya druthb 17:20 Edveal Hello 17:20 wahanui hi, Edveal 17:20 Edveal Just showing #koha to a self hosted librarian 17:21 oleonard Hi self hosted librarian! 17:31 chris_n oleonard: here for just a moment 17:32 oleonard chris_n: I was just wondering what the test plan was for trying to reproduce that label bug 17:34 chris_n what I did was this 17:36 chris_n 1. in the label creator tool, create two layouts for BIB only, selecting just the callnumber field, and setting the font to some reasonable size 17:36 chris_n 2. create a small batch of labels 17:37 chris_n 3. export the batch twice; once using the layout with "split callnumber" selected (I failed to mention that in step 1); and the other with the layout without the splitting option 17:37 chris_n 4. compare the two resulting pdfs 17:38 chris_n I'm assuming that is what nicole did 17:38 chris_n I'm off for a bit, but will check back 18:13 chris_n back 18:16 pianohacker Yo 18:18 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 18:18 mtompset jcamins: Are you here? :) 18:19 oleonard pianohacker: Could I get you to test Bug 12058? 18:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12058 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , OverDrive search results page doesn't show cart, lists, or login links 18:21 mtompset oleonard: Wow. That was a big oversight. :) 18:22 oleonard Well, the effects are subtle if you're focused on the search results 18:25 alphaman oleonard: wow, good catch. I didn't see that 'til you mentioned it. thanks for patching! 18:26 pianohacker oleonard: Sure, I'll try to take a crack at it later today 18:47 oleonard My session had timed out, clicked the "Remove restriction" link in the staff client and was redirected to the OPAC login page. 18:48 pianohacker oleonard: aw dammit now that I'm not on mobile I see what I did. Dangit. 18:48 oleonard (members/mod_debarment.pl?borrowernumber=1234&borrower_debarment_id=1234&action=del) 19:01 chris_n oleonard: I added that test procedure to the bug 19:01 * chris_n figured that might have been the reason for the question to being with :-) 19:02 oleonard Thanks chris_n. The first time I tested it I couldn't reproduce the problem. I'll try again to make sure I wasn't testing incorrectly. 19:02 mtompset debarment? That reminds me of a patch... 19:04 oleonard A fond memory I hope mtompset 19:04 mtompset No... there was a bug, I remember seeing it fixed... trying to find it again. 19:06 mtompset bug 11182 19:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11182 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Warnings in circulation 19:07 rangi morning 19:07 mtompset particularly the last section of the first patch file. 19:07 oleonard Dear someone smart: Please fix Bug 12066. 19:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12066 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , New renew page in staff client doesn't record branch in statistics 19:08 oleonard That bug is going to make me have to correct my stats for 6 months to come. 19:11 rangi its interesting 19:11 rangi because circ/renew.pl calls AddRenewal 19:11 rangi which does the updatestats call 19:12 oleonard rangi: But renew.pl doesn't pass the branchcode to AddRenewal 19:12 rangi yep 19:12 rangi which is pretty stupid of it 19:12 oleonard :| 19:16 rangi presumably in that case, it should be renewing as the branch the librarian has set themselves to 19:17 rangi different logic to the opac case at least anyway 19:19 rangi it'll probably need a syspref, so the behaviour can be controlled, log renewal at patron homebranch, log renewal at item homebranch, log renewal at item current branch, log renewal at branch librarian has chosen when logging in 19:19 rangi are the cases i can think of 19:20 rangi im not going to have time to work on it in the near future unfortunately 19:20 oleonard When we renew from circulation.pl we assume the logged in branch gets credit don't we? 19:21 rangi yep 19:22 rangi different to opac 19:22 rangi where we do logic more like the above, except the last case is opac-renew 19:26 oleonard I don't think a new system pref is necessary... just pass the logged-in branch and make it work the way circulation.pl renewals do. 19:26 oleonard Or am I missing something? 19:27 rangi only if you think circulation.pl is working correctly 19:28 oleonard I do. And let's leave it at that before someone decides it's broken! :P 19:28 rangi yep, should be a 1 line patch then 19:29 rangi well a bit more 19:29 rangi we need to do 19:30 rangi if (!C4::Context->userenv && !$branch){ 19:30 rangi if ($session->param('branch') eq 'NO_LIBRARY_SET'){ 19:30 rangi # no branch set we can't issue 19:30 rangi print $query->redirect("/cgi-bin/koha/circ/selectbranchprinter.pl"); 19:30 rangi exit; 19:30 rangi } 19:30 rangi } 19:30 rangi something like that 19:30 rangi to make sure they have a branch set 19:30 rangi with my $branch = C4::Context->userenv->{'branch'}; 19:31 rangi and then just pass $branch 19:33 rangi maybe 19:33 rangi if (!C4::Context->userenv){ 19:33 rangi redirect 19:34 rangi } 19:34 rangi my $branch = C4::Context->userenv->{'branch'}; 19:34 rangi near the top of the script 19:35 rangi we may as well bail as fast as we can 19:36 rangi if i was going to be at a real computer in the near future id have a go, but i wont be until monday 19:36 * oleonard pastes the whole conversation into the script and puts it into production 19:37 rangi heh 19:38 bag awesome 19:40 rangi im off to here http://baacamp.org/ today assuming the mist/fog goes away soon 19:40 * oleonard dispatches Rudolph 19:45 oleonard http://www.socialprogressimperative.org/data/spi/countries/NZL 19:46 rangi number 1 number 1 19:54 rangi right taking kids to school 19:57 wajasu access to advanced education might create disatisfaction in the area of personal opportunity ... 20:10 rhcl what reasons would indicate a need to run the following: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.12/en/resetzebra.html 20:12 rhcl would running those scripts routinely (every night?) improve search results? 20:14 wajasu i think that creates the initial zebra directories/ shadow registers and such. it might be a one time thing, but if they get corrupted... or maybe files get left around during indexing from a crash/kill of the app (should be rare) 20:15 wajasu it deletes them 20:15 wajasu man zebraidx 20:43 rhcl tnx wajasu 20:45 wajasu rhcl: every time you run rebuild_zebra.pl with -r ir does that reset clean up things. 20:46 rhcl yea, cron runs that script every night 23:26 pianohacker Are we not really keeping kohastructure.sql alphabetized anymore? 23:27 eythian hi 23:27 mtompset pianohacker: We are supposed to be. why? 23:27 mtompset Greetings, eythian pianohacker. :) 23:27 pianohacker mtompset: Take a look at the version in HEAD. Where would you put a table called external_targets? :) 23:28 mtompset Oh, I was thinking system preferences. 23:28 mtompset Was kohastructure every alphabetical? 23:29 mtompset Was kohastructure ever alphabetical? 23:29 pianohacker It was at some point... 23:29 pianohacker At this point, it looks like we've just said to hell with it and started throwing things at the end 23:30 * pianohacker assumes that in this particularly, everything is properly alphabetized and sorted and filed :) 23:30 pianohacker *particular project 23:31 dcook hehe 23:31 dcook There is probably a saying for this situation... 23:32 dcook I'll be glad when we (hopefully) don't have to use kohastructure.sql anymore 23:33 pianohacker Yeah, are there plans for that, now that we have the schema smushed properly into Koha::Schema? 23:33 dcook Is it just me or are the values for the -g flag wrong here? http://manual.koha-community.org/3.12/en/resetzebra.html 23:33 dcook Shouldn't those be marcxml? 23:34 dcook We have both iso2709 and marcxml defined in the .cfg... 23:35 eythian I suppose it depends on if you're using DOM or grs-1. But that's just a guess. 23:36 dcook Hmm, the files that those groups differentiate are nearly identical 23:36 dcook In the case of authorities, I think we've only been using DOM for a while anway 23:37 dcook I think dom and grs-1 get different .cfg files anyway 23:38 dcook Ahh, looks like iso2709 is the correct option.. 23:38 dcook At least in the grs-1 context, a group of "iso2709" means you can use iso marc or marcxml.. 23:39 dcook pianohacker: No idea :S 23:39 * dcook probably couldn't be more out of touch with Koha's direction atm 23:39 dcook :/ 23:40 pianohacker why so? 23:51 mtompset dcook: I bet I'm more out of touch than you. :P 23:54 dcook pianohacker: I'm never around for meetings and even when I read the minutes, I don't get the feeling that we really have a plan. 23:55 dcook Or that it's all happening behind closed doors 23:55 dcook But, I don't have much in the way of contributions lately, so I can't complain too much :p 23:56 eythian keep in mind there's plans, and then there's what people actually put time into doing. 23:56 eythian they may not be the same thing 23:57 dcook Mmm, also very true 23:58 dcook I suppose people aren't responsible for saying what they're up to either