Time Nick Message 23:40 mtompset dcook: Oh, on a template level? 23:39 mtompset XSLT? What? Huh? 22:48 dcook Which doesn't work as described in the non-XSLT anyway... 22:38 * dcook should check that this hasn't already been done 22:38 dcook All right, re-introducing "OPACItemsResultsDisplay" back into the XSLT... 22:33 eythian magnuse: later 22:32 bag magnuse: HI 22:31 * magnuse falls asleep for real this time 22:30 magnuse :-) 22:30 eythian fair enough 22:30 magnuse eythian: yeah, i think what i want is a time series that can show trends + any spikes over time 22:26 move_ cait-m___ and jcamin: yeah :) after some testing your hints to fix the zebra search issue with plack seems to work for me. thanks for pointing this out 22:26 eythian magnuse: well, it'd be faster as it'd do a binary rather than linear search. But really, it's for a slightly different use case. 22:26 mtompset dcook: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5136WCG9GRL.jpg (except mine is cinnamon) 22:25 magnuse eythian: output will look something like this: http://div.libriotech.no/files/2014/KohaProfile%202014-03-19%2023-23-21.png not sure if git-bisect will add anything... 22:24 dcook But crackers are awesome! 22:24 dcook Tasteless crackers? 22:23 mtompset So do I, but my snacks are tasteless crackers for a few days. :( 22:23 dcook Damn now I want chocolate.. 22:22 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies 22:22 dcook Cookies! 22:22 * cait leaves some cookies and goes to bed ;) 22:22 dcook Hmm, you CAN tell that I went to library school... 22:21 dcook That said, the overwhelming majority of new patrons are likely to be actual patrons and not staff... 22:19 dcook Actually, permission sets could be really handy. We wrote a little "permission audit" script a while back, but it's rough in comparison to what you could do using permission sets 22:18 dcook So while it might be an extra click in the add/modify page, it would still save clicks overall 22:18 dcook I suppose at the moment they have to go into "Set permissions" in order to set permissions anyway 22:15 eythian heh 22:14 jcamins eythian: that sounds redundant. </snark> 22:14 dcook ^ 22:14 eythian Sounds like they have bigger issues :) 22:14 eythian So they both want and don't want it? 22:14 dcook Maybe, but what if they're the librarians who wanted to have default permissions by category? :p 22:12 jcamins dcook: use CSS to hide the selector. Easy peasy. 22:12 dcook But then they would just say it's broken, jcamins :p 22:12 jcamins dcook: then they wouldn't have to use it. 22:12 dcook Or they might assign permissions differently across a patron category even though they should be the same 22:12 dcook I imagine library folk wouldn't like the extra click, or you might have staff who don't know what permissions to assign. 22:11 eythian magnuse: you could integrate it with git bisect to find where specific performance issues came about. 22:11 cait dcook: i don't think it would change much - just a different way to set all the checkboxes and could still allow for manual 22:11 dcook I wonder how it would factor into the sub-permission for controlling permissions.. 22:10 dcook cait: I like this permission set idea, although I'm not sure how well it would go down with staff 22:09 rangi :) 22:09 * magnuse falls asleep 22:09 * magnuse kicks off a kohaprofile with 100 commits and 100 iterations, and wonders if it will be done before he wakes up 22:05 magnuse yay! 22:02 * mtompset gives magnuse a high five. :) 22:00 * magnuse waves 21:52 wizzyrea http://31.media.tumblr.com/cad3162e5f133db0827856e4704369f7/tumblr_mq4fzqmpMF1rrx588o1_400.gif 21:51 mtompset At edit or entry time, you know the permissions you want for a patron, I don't see why the member entry couldn't have a drop down list like cait suggested which defaults the flags. 21:49 cait just 2 different approaches i think :) 21:49 * wizzyrea drops it 21:48 cait also more complicated in reports 21:48 cait and that 21:48 rangi if its possible, they do it 21:48 cait they might still check out things for staff uses 21:48 wizzyrea note the "should" 21:48 rangi there is no should in libraries 21:48 wizzyrea yes, yes I have. 21:48 wizzyrea they should not use them as their personal account. 21:48 rangi have you ever met library staff? 21:48 wizzyrea people should not be circulating with their staff accounts. :P 21:47 cait yeah, and notice triggers and other things 21:47 rangi if you tied to category 21:47 rangi would mean having to define a bunch of extra circ rules 21:47 cait i think i#d be happy if go to the permissions page for a patron and have a pull down that gives me an option to choose from sets i defined, like 'cataloguer' 'circ help' or sth like that 21:47 cait but that's maybe just because of how we set things up 21:45 cait because i don't want to have more than one staff category:) 21:45 wizzyrea why not layer that on top of the category? 21:45 cait and then apply when you create the patron 21:44 cait wizzyrea: i think maybe have a way to save permission sets 21:40 wizzyrea At least to be able to define by default a set of permissions that a category starts with, a la the "enhanced messaging defaults" 21:39 * wizzyrea still thinks category based permissions would be cool. 21:28 cait hi eythian 21:25 eythian hi 21:25 jcamins Also note that git-bz is in a folder called git-bz, which can lead to incorrect symlinking due to tabcomplete. 21:24 wizzyrea ^^ 21:24 jcamins Note that if you're not using Debian, your default path might not include the directory where you put git-bz. 21:24 wizzyrea and then it doesn't work :P 21:24 * wizzyrea has occasionally reversed the direction of the symlink in a dumb way accidentally 21:23 smeagol thought i did, will check path again 21:20 smeagol yes, installed git bz from instructions, went to do command: git bz appy xxxx and got the above message 21:20 wizzyrea ^^ see that link 21:20 wahanui git bz is so much fun :) or http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration or just about anything except intuitive or AMAZING and WONDERFUL 21:20 wizzyrea git bz? 21:20 wizzyrea git-bz 21:20 wizzyrea probably that means you didn't link git-bz into your path 21:13 cait and did you install git bz? 21:13 cait what did you type? 21:12 smeagol Hi all, by the way 21:12 smeagol Anyone know why i may be getting this message...? "git: 'bz' is not a git command. See 'git --help'. Did you mean one of these? am gc mv rm" 21:04 mtompset didn't the gods kill the titans? ;) 21:04 mtompset wizzyrea++ # good point about the lack of link between patron categories and permissions. 20:27 rhcl I like watching titans talk about stuff. 20:24 wajasu i started looking into facets. 20:23 wajasu just sayin. 20:23 wajasu also, the named result sets option would cache a query asa named results set option. then when we do paging, we specifiy the named result set. 20:22 wajasu well if we cache the marcxml in memcached by doing a zebra search, then when we go grab the marc_record from results, it might be in the cache(RAM) and save the mysql db hit. 20:20 mtompset wajasu: Are you trying to hurt my brain? :P 20:19 * wajasu wonders if we can employ memcached option with zebra itself to cache using the zebra option memcached. 19:52 rhcl yep, she looks like Kyle 19:50 mtompset rhcl: news on the bywatersolutions site. It was just posted today. Google hasn't indexed it yet. :) 19:47 rhcl neg 19:46 rhcl let's see if the google indexer can find them 19:45 rhcl I've searched the bywater site for "khall's baby", "Kyle's baby pics" and just "baby" and get no results. Obviously the site is using zebra. 19:37 * magnuse adds some basic graphing to https://github.com/digibib/kohaprofile and calls it a day 19:32 tcohen bye #koha 19:20 magnuse heh 19:20 bag right 19:19 mtompset I saw the thumbnail and khall and thought V is for Vendetta. 19:18 bag it's a family 19:18 tcohen khall++ 19:18 bag :P 19:18 magnuse bywater++ for putting baby photos on their website! 19:18 magnuse khall++ 19:17 bag khall++ 19:12 cait daria++ :) 19:12 cait baby photos! 19:12 cait khall++ :) 18:52 cait :) 18:52 bag yes cait the bunny made it :) 18:49 cait lucky me :) 18:46 magnuse ooh, lucky coworkers! 18:46 cait but i still have about half of them :D 18:46 cait i made one of my coworkers very happy today by sharing some peanut butter cups... 18:45 cait did the chocolate bunny made it? 18:45 cait :) 18:41 bag is a single bag faster than multiple bags - I guess so 18:41 rhcl :) funny 18:41 bag HA 18:41 jcamins bag: if only they had accidentally sent *you* to Tahiti instead of your luggage, right? 18:41 magnuse yeah, 20 minutes is not a lot of time 18:40 magnuse ooh, bag was faster than his bags! 18:40 bag yeah at least they knew where it was. I landed in Paris from Rome with only 20 minutes to get on the next plane - so I think I was just faster than my bags where 18:39 magnuse bag: that sux - but maybe less than having no baggage when you arrive in the great unknown? 18:35 cait bag: good to hear it's late but there now 18:35 bag but the luggage was just dropped off at home 18:35 move_ jcamins and cait: will try if this fix helps me 18:35 bag finally home - arrived last night - with no luggage 18:34 magnuse bag: finally at home, safe and sound? 18:34 magnuse bag: HI 18:34 wahanui hi, bag 18:34 bag magnuse: HI 18:34 magnuse awww http://bywatersolutions.com/2014/03/19/welcome-daria-hall-bywater-family/ 18:34 move_ great :) thx for help 18:33 jcamins Yes. 18:31 cait 21:13:29 <rangi> http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=459c750e4b0aa0fe5dba601e423e78070383b97b;hp=2c9581f75fdb1f76e60c83f86e253cb4dfe04597 18:31 cait i think it's this 18:31 cait http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/koha_dev_meeting__25_february_2014_21_00_utc.2014-02-25-21.01.log.html 18:30 * jcamins filed it. 18:30 jcamins It's called something weird. 18:30 cait let me see 18:30 cait haven't seen, i only remembered from the meeting 18:30 move_ cant find something related in the dev-log. i will try again 18:29 cait probably 18:29 jcamins There is a bug, but I don't recall the number. 18:29 jcamins cait: but I think it has to be patched manually. 18:29 magnuse i think rangi or catalyst has something that is just on a branch somewhere, not a patch yet 18:29 cait i think it was talked about there and a link posted to a repo 18:29 cait move_: i think it's not on bugzilla, that's why i gave the link to the february dev meeting 18:29 cait there is one link to a kid of fix in the log i think 18:29 move_ can't find a bug in this relation for plack and koha 18:29 magnuse known bugs are better than unknown bugs 18:28 jcamins But I haven't been following the bugs list recently. 18:28 jcamins As far as I know, no fix has been submitted for inclusion in Koha. 18:28 cait but it's a bug... so yay :(? 18:28 cait yay :) 18:28 jcamins In that case, it's the bug cait mentioned. 18:28 jcamins Oh, the search is showing no results, not just no items? 18:27 move_ works most, but after some time search is showing no results and after trying again search shows all results 18:27 jcamins move_: could you please share your Plack script thing with paste.koha-community.org? 18:27 cait the bug i meant was search sometimes not working 18:27 cait move_: sorry, misread then 18:27 jcamins cait: yeah, that's the bug you were talking about. :) 18:26 jcamins Hmm. 18:26 cait jcamins: ah, i thought search not working at all 18:26 move_ debian version ist wheezy 18:26 move_ I'm using current debian-version, 3.14.04 18:25 jcamins move_: are you using a slightly older version of Koha? 18:25 jcamins cait: the items not showing up is a different bug. 17:23 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developers_IRC_Meeting,_February_25,_2014 17:23 cait february 17:23 cait hm no not the march one 17:22 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developers_IRC_Meeting,_March_12_2014 17:22 cait try reading the dev meeting logs maybe 17:22 move_ thx I will try searching this lpack bug 17:21 cait where zebra looses the connection? 17:21 cait soem people have been talking about that 17:20 cait i suspect it's a known plack bug 17:20 move_ thx :) in the near future my koha installation must move to a server without apache. all works fine with nginx and plack, only search is not working properly 17:18 cait ashimema might be interested - he was going to look into nginx and plack 17:18 cait move_: your english is fine - sadly i can't really help 17:14 move_ hello, is somebody here using koha with nginx and plack? I have problems that sometimes item searches in opac shows no results. if i try the serach again, all results are shown. can't figure out the problem (btw: sorry for my bad english) 17:11 marjorie cait: ok thanks! 17:11 cait there is one interesting rfid rfc from oslo public library on the wiki 17:11 cait yeah, then what i said applies i think 17:10 marjorie cait: rfid 17:10 cait you might miss messages it shows, like for holds 17:10 cait the software one of the vnedors our libraires use had an option to send a return after each number... i think that kind of worked, but basically it's not made for multiple 17:09 cait marjorie: are you using barcodes or rfid? 17:08 marjorie Hi, i am searching a way to scan mutiple barcode on return.pl. Is someone knows a way to do with RFID? 17:00 tcohen when is the newsletter sent? ((aprox) 16:55 mtompset Then, I'll be able to "cheat" and then work hard to keep it off at a much more relaxed level. 16:54 mtompset So, I'm going to stick with it until I reach my optimal weight. 16:54 mtompset I've lost 45+ pounds in just over a year. 16:54 mtompset not all carbs, just more than a microscopic amount. 16:53 mtompset And that means avoiding sugar and carbs. 16:53 mtompset No, I'm on a diet. 16:53 oleonard mtompset: Are you banished to a land without maple syrup? 16:46 * mtompset dreams of the day he'll be able to have maple syrup again. 16:45 mtompset deep fried toast? wouldn't that be like french toast? 16:44 AmitG but some confusion is there 16:44 AmitG i have done with MARC21 16:43 druthb There was a joint in DC in 2009-2010 that was making it, in response to the news…some bar or other. That's where I tried it. They were using quarter-sticks, having determined that a pat of butter would melt too quickly, and a stick was just a waste. 16:43 mtompset AmitG: I'd ask someone in BibLibre, but I can't help you beyond that. I know they wrote some drupal connector thing. 16:37 jcamins It came out of Texas in 2009, but the Iowa State Fair appears to be the venue best-known for it. 16:37 jcamins It's new. 16:37 * cait thinks she should really go home now :) 16:36 druthb No, then you eat it. 16:36 druthb But it is *supremely* icky. 16:36 jcamins And then you spread it on deep fried toast? 16:36 cait eww 16:36 druthb melts, even. 16:35 druthb yes. But you freeze the butter, batter it, and flash-fry it. Like fried ice cream—only a little metls. 16:35 druthb you're requiring southern food to make sense? Since when? 16:35 jcamins The melting point of butter is way below 300 degrees. 16:35 cait eww 16:35 jcamins Deep-fried butter? That doesn't even make sense. 16:34 druthb Deep-fried butter is even nastier. But it sells like crazy. 16:34 jcamins I've never actually tried one. It sounds too horrible. But that's apparently a Scottish thing. 16:34 jcamins lol 16:34 druthb no. I had those at the State Fair, tho. *ick* 16:34 jcamins druthb: do they have deep fried Mars Bars? 16:33 druthb Told him if he got the mini corn dogs, I was going to tell The Swede on him. 16:33 oleonard \o/ 16:33 druthb saw him today, in the lunch line. Gave him crap about eating the buffet today—it's Deep Fry All The Things day. 16:33 huginn druthb: libsysguy was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 4 days, 0 hours, 53 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <libsysguy> its quiet in here today 16:33 druthb @seen libsysguy 16:33 AmitG ? 16:33 AmitG any good doc drupal with koha 16:32 druthb Hi, AmitG 16:32 AmitG hi druthb 16:32 AmitG indradg 16:32 wahanui salut, AmitG 16:32 AmitG hi 16:32 jcamins druthb: I'm confused... 16:32 druthb I'm surprised it remembers. 16:31 druthb damn. 16:31 huginn druthb: jdavidb was last seen in #koha 2 years, 17 weeks, 6 days, 20 hours, 37 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <jdavidb> I'm just here to confuse you. 16:31 druthb @seen jdavidb 16:31 druthb hm. 16:31 huginn AmitG: AmitG was last seen in #koha 1 minute and 6 seconds ago: <AmitG> alex biblibre 16:31 AmitG @seen AmitG 16:31 huginn cait: alex_a was last seen in #koha 1 week, 2 days, 7 hours, 38 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <alex_a> hello 16:31 cait @seen alex_a 16:30 huginn cait: downloading the Perl source 16:30 cait @seeen alex_a 16:30 cait hm alex_a i think 16:30 AmitG alex biblibre 16:29 cait i think we have different alex...s but with other nicks 16:29 AmitG hi cait 16:29 cait ah 16:29 oleonard cait: That was for AmitG who is looking for an alex 16:28 cait oleonard: which alex are you looking for? 16:26 huginn oleonard: I have not seen alex. 16:26 oleonard @seen alex 16:25 mtompset It was so beautiful, I almost cried. 16:25 AmitG alex around 16:25 mtompset paxed made them consistent by turning the tab draws into a single subroutine. 16:25 AmitG hi 16:24 mtompset oleonard: But the markup should be consistent between tabs. 16:19 oleonard Isn't avoiding unnecessary markup a form of optimization? 16:18 paxed i was more aggravated by impossible css styling. 16:18 mtompset I'll sign off... but perhaps there is a tighter optimization possible. 16:17 mtompset Hmm... if you don't have a tag, can you even have indicators or a description? 16:16 mtompset Also... is an IF around the description necessary? What's wrong with a blank span? 16:15 mtompset and there it is. Great! 16:13 paxed as i noted in the bug description. 16:12 mtompset Missing a - that was there before. 16:12 mtompset Ooo... minor thing. 16:10 mtompset I'm just in the midst of signing it off. 16:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11885 normal, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Inconsistent HTML in MARC Details 16:09 cait bug 11885 16:09 mtompset paxed: Oh yes! Love that patch for 11885... It's so elegant. 16:03 rhcl that is appropriate! 16:02 reiveune bye 16:02 cait ah this one.. https://xkcd.com/1172/ 16:02 cait can't find the right xkcd :( 16:01 cait that reminds me of that comic... 16:00 rhcl Well, I'm sitting here rubbing my hands together over my computer wishing it had a 1000 watt power supply instead of just 550. 15:55 mtompset It may be freezing, but I'm wearing a short sleeve shirt... just not outside. ;) 15:54 druthb Be jealous. 15:54 druthb tropical paradise? oh, yes, I'm wearing a sleeveless blouse today. :) 15:54 * druthb perks 15:50 nengard ttyl 15:50 nengard webinar time for me 15:49 nengard in fact the pipes in our new house burst cause there wasn't any heat yet - of course it's not our house yet so they had to fix that :) 15:49 nengard and so they freeze easy so everyone makes a big fuss when it gets cold 15:49 nengard it's a bit nuts, but when you don't have the infrastructure to handle it it makes sense - they don't insulate their pipes here like they did back home 15:48 nengard LOL 15:48 jcamins OH MY GOD! THERE WAS SOME ICE! 15:48 rhcl barely, and you are 39 more lattitude lines north 15:48 nengard freeze warnings all over the place and ice storms 15:48 mtompset Just had to point out it was colder here. :) 15:48 nengard hey, we had a cold winter here in paradise 15:48 nengard LOL 15:48 rhcl I mean, I don't expect to live in a tropical paradise like nengard and druthb, but just warm would be nice 15:48 nengard eek 15:47 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is 2.7°C (11:47 AM EDT on March 19, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). 15:47 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5 15:47 rhcl why do I always have to be at the coldest spot on the planet? Why can't I be warmer than Athens, Ohio just once? 15:45 nengard Loving it :) 15:45 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Huston-Tillotson Environmental Studies, Austin, Texas is 14.3°C (10:39 AM CDT on March 19, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Rising). 15:45 nengard @wunder 78741 15:36 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 3.2°C (10:36 AM CDT on March 19, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1019 hPa (Rising). 15:36 rhcl @wunder 64507 15:35 oleonard No sun here. 15:35 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Windy Ridge, Athens, Ohio is 10.9°C (11:35 AM EDT on March 19, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 15:35 oleonard @wunder 45701 15:35 petter see you folks! 15:35 petter ok, time to go out in the sun 15:33 petter Anyway, I have some hopes that if we get a working Plack configuration we could see quite a boost 15:31 petter jcamins: yes. There are some inherit limitations in the cgi-model I guess. If it was an in-memory process we could reuse connections 15:27 jcamins petter: an Apache process is started and the entirety of the Koha codebase is loaded on every connection... 15:27 kivilahtio koha makes a HUGE amount of database queries 15:27 petter sorry, not udp, menat unix-domain-socket 15:26 petter measuring, udp to be 33% percent faster than TCP 15:26 petter its the postgress maintainer 15:26 petter http://momjian.us/main/blogs/pgblog/2012.html#June_6_2012 15:26 petter check this 15:25 petter hm, actually it might be quite a bit to gain 15:20 jcamins But if you think it might be, test test test. 15:20 petter Rarther, lets get Plack to work! 15:20 petter I think so too, probably not worth it 15:20 kivilahtio jcamins: good point 15:20 kivilahtio :) 15:20 jcamins kivilahtio: it would require changing the connection string. But I would suspect that the overhead is probably insignificant compared to other things Koha does. 15:20 kivilahtio I could 15:19 petter You could maybe try modify sub _new_dbh in Context.pm 15:17 kivilahtio this way I don't have to generate TCP packets 15:17 kivilahtio so koha and mariadb dont work in the same namespace but could communicate via a unix-socket 15:17 kivilahtio koha container -> shared socket partition <- mariadb container 15:16 kivilahtio my issues is that I have two containers, which have a hsared partition for unix sockets 15:16 petter http://www.cs.wcupa.edu/docs/mysqlEZinfo/perl_dbi.html 15:16 petter At least its capable of doing it 15:16 petter if you are on the same machine that is 15:15 mtompset me too, petter, me too. :) 15:15 petter I would guess that's what DBI is using 15:15 mtompset Do you think the DBI library is poorly written? 15:14 mtompset Why are you asking that? 15:14 kivilahtio mysql <-> perl 15:14 kivilahtio is it possible to use unixsockets to communicate between mysql and koha? 14:56 kivilahtio I guess I will be way over my head anyway 14:56 kivilahtio I don't want any hard to track behaviour here 14:56 kivilahtio cait: yes 14:56 jcamins Hehe. 14:55 cait hm quite confusing? 14:55 cait otherwise it turns out rather confusing 14:55 * cait nods 14:55 jcamins petter: exactly. 14:54 petter hm, yea, you would need some way to invalidate the cache when you update your data 14:54 jcamins memoize is appropriate for repeated math, not for data access. 14:53 kivilahtio thats a marketing speech for a cache 14:53 kivilahtio haha 14:53 jcamins I mean, it's still a bad idea, but at least it doesn't hurt performance. 14:53 cait ah , had the wrong name then :) 14:53 jcamins http://search.cpan.org/~tcohen/ 14:52 jcamins So memoize_memcached 0.04 should work fine. 14:52 cait ah you were faster :) i was still searching - where did you find it? 14:52 jcamins Yup. Cool! 14:52 kivilahtio ok ,no memcached for our production :( 14:52 cait i thought i remembered something like that 14:52 jcamins cait: oh, was he? That'd be nice. 14:51 cait hm was that the module tcohen is maintaining now? 14:51 jcamins As an additional aside, memoize is just a bad idea all around. 14:51 kivilahtio jcamins: So i might be better off not using memcached? 14:51 jcamins As an aside, the memoize_memcached used by SQLHelper is massively buggy. 14:51 cait i think ther is a bug for making sqlhelper die too :) 14:51 kivilahtio and column stuff, where SQL helper is used (not very oftern :) 14:50 kivilahtio xcept SQLHelper which "might" automatically pull from cache primary keys 14:50 cait one of the problems i had was that changes to the frameworks wouldn't show up immediatley 14:49 kivilahtio it doesnt look like it is used for much. 14:49 kivilahtio cait: I'll deploy memcached and try to use it in my further dev-work 14:49 kivilahtio cait: thanks 14:48 cait kivilahtio: there are some things in the code that could use memcache, but in my experience it's still a bit experimental, apart from sessions maybe 14:48 kivilahtio :) 14:48 kivilahtio petter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upcvR-39myE There is no rest for the wicked 14:48 cait kivilahtio: look for the Koha::Cache bug 14:47 magnuse oops, https://github.com/digibib/kohaprofile now saves data in mysql and displays them in a Dancer app. work in progress, patches welcome! :-) 14:46 magnuse :-) 14:46 petter I want you guys to explain! 14:46 petter But I'm lazy 14:46 petter hehe, thanks! 14:46 kivilahtio petter: git grep -i memcache :) 14:44 petter but i heard if you have many active sessions it can help you out 14:44 petter No big difference 14:44 petter I enabled memcached and did some benchmarks 14:44 petter I havent rellay looked into it, 14:44 petter what else? 14:44 petter magnus: ok! 14:44 mtompset That's why I mentioned the git grep, magnuse. :) 14:44 magnuse not sure how to get an overview of what it is used for, though 14:43 magnuse petter: it's not just for sessions 14:43 * magnuse uses memcached 14:42 kivilahtio mtompset: I understand. Thanks for helping me out! 14:42 kivilahtio mtompset: checking for memcahced in code is just nasty, but one can capsulate those checks under the api 14:42 mtompset And a DB setup and Apache configuration is complex enough. Too complex for some. 14:41 kivilahtio mtompset: hmm that's true. 14:40 mtompset Because it would be yet another thing to configure. 14:39 kivilahtio mtompset: thanks! I wonder why memcached is even an optional part of Koha? It should be a mandatory part of Koha :) 14:33 mtompset git grep -i memcache 14:33 kivilahtio thanks petter 14:32 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 14:32 petter I think its just used as session store 14:32 kivilahtio is it called anywhere from code? 14:32 kivilahtio I havent seen a koha module yet to actually use memcached 14:32 kivilahtio Is anyone using memcached with koha? 14:10 magnuse yeah d3 looked like a bit of overkill, but it's certainly on my todo list... 14:06 jcamins True. 14:06 petter d3 is not exacly simple, but very powerfull! 14:06 jcamins magnuse: d3? Flot? 14:06 petter http://omnipotent.net/jquery.sparkline/#s-about 14:03 magnuse anyone got a nice, simple, free software, javascript chart library they can recommend? 13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update easyanalytics author info 13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update amazon lookup author info 13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update custom logo author 13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update excel immport author info 13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update SRU author info 13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update sopac author info 13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix search guide author info 13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update bibliographic cheat sheet author info 13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update firefox plugin author info 13:47 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update author info for matching rules 13:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #31: SUCCESS in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/31/ 13:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #31 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:46 magnuse :-) 13:46 magnuse better late than never! :_ 13:45 nengard doing a bit of catching up 13:45 nengard :) 13:45 magnuse nengard++ 13:45 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update easyanalytics author info 13:45 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. 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Engard: update classification sources 13:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #30: SUCCESS in 23 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/30/ 13:29 jenkins_koha Starting build #30 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:28 kivilahtio hmm, I was missing a c compiler :) 13:26 sophie_m thanx cait 13:26 kivilahtio do you have issues with cpan HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench ? 13:23 nengard typo fixed 13:20 cait sophie_m: not sure when I will get to it :( It not one of the quick and fast ones I suspect. khall is probably not going to be around for a while, but I will see what I can do 13:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9593 normal, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Signed Off , Prices not imported correctly from a staged file 13:17 sophie_m QA team, would it be possible to have a look at bug 9593. It's a serious pb for some of our customers. Thx 13:16 cait nengard: at least searching is unlike to break something :) 13:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6939 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, CLOSED FIXED, DefaultClassificationSource not used in 942$2 13:16 cait hm bug 6939 13:16 nengard thanks cait 13:15 nengard will report bug and fix right now 13:15 nengard that 13:15 nengard wow! how is it that i have never updated taht? 13:15 cait but i found the help page 13:15 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/admin/classsources.tt;hb=7408fa5d7087fad5c8f15b742b9624cbfe652a61 13:15 cait nengard: i think both are probably kind of right - as we do have 942$2 as well... but I am not sure it is used 13:13 cait aw thx :) 13:13 * nengard sends cait a virtual cookie 13:12 cait today is terrible :( 13:12 nengard Mine was Monday 13:12 nengard LOL 13:12 cait i guess today is a 'no sql updates on production databases' kind of day 13:12 nengard hehe 13:12 * cait stops writing an email 13:11 cait ah i misread 13:11 nengard because the manual is right :) 13:11 nengard but I don't know what documentation she means 13:11 nengard which is wrong 13:11 nengard she says it says 942$2 13:11 cait ah :) 13:11 wahanui i already had it that way, nengard. 13:11 nengard 952$2 is right 13:11 cait i think 952$2 is right 13:11 cait nengard: wait a sec 13:01 tcohen morning #koha 13:01 nengard So then my alternate option - show the home icon, but not the Koha Logo at the top 12:54 oleonard breadcrumbs don't appear below a certain pixel width, so a home link is needed then. 12:53 nengard I did try that too 12:53 nengard 1. hide koha logo at top when it's a logo, but leave it there as the home icon - if having the home icon is a concern 12:53 nengard Or: 12:53 nengard So it goes like this: 1. hide Koha logo at top, 2. Add library logo to header (which you showed) 3. update powered by at bottom to have Koha logo instead of 'Koha' words 12:53 oleonard I guess having nothing is feasible since there is now a consistent breadcrumbs menu 12:52 nengard they will use the header (like you suggest) for their logo 12:52 nengard they just want nothing up there 12:52 nengard nope 12:50 oleonard Do they want their logo to replace the Koha logo at the top? It's so small. 12:49 nengard i've only trained a couple libraries so far on bootstrap - but yes, go away seems to be the request because theyw ant their logo (in the header) to be prominent - and they still want to give Koha credit of course but at the bottom in the 'powered by' statement as a logo instead of text 12:48 oleonard nengard: So people ask for the Koha logo at the top to go away, or be replaced by something else? 12:44 nengard so if you want to do another post in the future, I'd love to know how to make that powered by a Koha logo (linked to Koha's site) 12:44 nengard I do have one. The 'powered by' at the bottom. People seemed to like it as the Koha logo instead of having the logo in the top left, I tried to do it on my own but it was a spectacular disaster 12:43 oleonard nengard: Sure. If you have common problems that you think I should address please let me know. 12:42 talljoy morning oleonard! 12:42 nengard thanks so much for that 12:42 nengard I used your bootstrap tab tutorial the other day :) 12:41 nengard morning oleonard!! 12:41 oleonard Good morning tcohen, talljoy, nengard 12:38 petter right 12:38 wahanui dropdowns are great for preventing typos. 12:38 petter dropdowns 12:38 petter like modal windows 12:38 petter Yes. I was also thinking about the "reusable component" which a framework like bootstrap allows 12:37 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. -- EXERCISE! 12:36 oleonard It would be worthwhile to choose certain pages to make mobile-friendly while leaving other things as they are. 12:36 oleonard I do from time to time: Consulting the holds queue while walking through the stacks for instance, looking at title information. 12:35 petter I agree it would be a giant task 12:35 petter yea, I dont know if i would use the staff interface on mobile myself 12:35 oleonard It would be nice to have a framework in place to make the staff client more mobile-friendly, but... So many templates. 12:34 petter ok 12:34 oleonard petter: No immediate plans because it's such a big task 12:34 petter jsut curious 12:33 petter Are there any plans to bootstrapify the staff interface as well? 12:31 petter hei hei! 12:31 magnuse kia ora petter! 12:31 petter Hello #koha 12:31 mtompset Good for working on a patch. :) 12:31 paxed oleonard: why do you think i'm cursing this code? 12:31 oleonard paxed: patches are always welcome. 12:30 huginn mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 1 week, 0 days, 21 hours, 48 minutes, and 1 second ago: <khall> also, I like the icon 12:30 mtompset @seen khall 12:29 paxed hopefully whoever did that has learned a bit since then. 12:29 paxed ok, i'll phrase it as: there was no reason to create a db table with no uid 15 years ago. 12:28 mtompset I'm with oleonard on this. :) 12:28 oleonard Since there is 14+ years of Koha history it's better not to get angry about decisions that were made a long time ago, especially when the evidence shows that people are trying to make it better. 12:27 paxed sure, but not everyone has commit access, and those who do, should know better. 12:27 * mtompset enchants the hammer to only be solid against code, but nerf against people. ;) 12:26 mtompset Remember, not everyone in the Koha community are pure coders, just as not everyone is a pure librarian. We're a mongrel bunch. :) 12:26 paxed i'd like to hit the person who coded it with the hammer. 12:25 mtompset paxed: I agree, but just because something makes sense does not mean that is the way it is coded. 12:24 paxed mtompset: there is no reason to create a table without a uid column. 12:24 mtompset perhaps it started without one. 12:24 oleonard paxed: reserveid? That was added fairly recently. 12:24 mtompset paxed: You have to think of development as on going.... 12:23 * paxed grumbles something about having a unique id in the table... and then not using it. 12:23 * mtompset sprinkles the hammer with holy water. 12:23 paxed yes, indeed, i do need one. 12:22 * oleonard hands paxed a bigger hammer 12:21 * paxed hits C4/Reserves.pm with a hammer. 12:20 * cait waves 12:18 oleonard Hi #koha 12:08 francharb morning #koha 12:02 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 11:16 cait and then have an option to back out - yes delete cancel and um no 11:15 cait i think alert that the hold will be canceleld (and doing that) would be good 11:01 paxed or, when there is a unique id, why not use it? 10:59 cait sorry phone call 10:58 paxed is there any technical reason not to use unique id for database tables? 10:57 paxed grrh. 10:40 Joubu cait: to show holds? To raise an alert if an hold exist? To remove the hold silently? 10:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11744 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , cancel receipt doesn't work for one item 10:39 Joubu cait: what do you suggest for bug 11744? 09:37 nlegrand o/ magnuse ^^ 09:36 magnuse hiya nlegrand 09:30 nlegrand hey #koha :) 09:16 Hopla ok :) 09:16 magnuse sophie_m: yay! ;-) 09:16 magnuse nothing to worry about for regular use of Koha 09:15 magnuse Hopla: only if you want to run a few of Koha's more exotic tests 09:10 Hopla hey koha i just updated koha (old-stable and updated perl dependencies only Test::WWW::Mechanize would not update is that a problem ? 08:58 sophie_m magnuse: there is some left, and that smells stronger every day :-) 08:26 magnuse ...and all that lovely cheese. hm... 08:25 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 10.2°C (9:25 AM CET on March 19, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). 08:25 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:25 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -6.0°C (9:20 AM CET on March 19, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 08:25 magnuse @wunder boo 08:25 magnuse bonjour Joubu 08:21 cait good morning Joubu :) 08:16 Joubu good morning 07:53 magnuse :-) 07:52 cait god morgen magnuse 07:50 magnuse guten morgen cait 07:46 cait good morning #koha 07:37 wahanui hello, reiveune 07:37 reiveune hello 07:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9578 minor, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Error when search and sort not on relevance 07:32 paxed can anyone confirm that error i wrote about in here? looks similar to bug 9578 07:12 magnuse cait++ for signing up as qam again :-) 07:10 cait1 hm, we still need a lot of rmaints 07:07 cait1 eythian++ # signing up as packaging manager again :) 07:03 * cait1 waves 06:48 * magnuse waves 06:42 paxed if i type "au:smith pubdate(-2008)" into the mainpage catalog search input, i get "Error: Can't call method "sort" on an undefined value at /root/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 426." 06:36 cait morning #koha 04:42 papa I fint it cool 04:34 mtompset Have a great day, #koha dcook eythian wizzyrea. 04:25 mtompset Did anyone notice my question on the development list? 04:21 dcook Possibly in the next few months maybe 04:20 dcook I can't say that it's on my list of priorities at the moment, no. 04:18 mtompset dcook: Are you going to move forward on 11575? 04:17 mtompset easier to read still doesn't make it right. 04:16 dcook eythian: It's easier to read than some nested maps I've seen 04:15 * eythian passes mtompset a book on LISP 04:15 dcook mtompset: Oh? 04:15 mtompset eythian: That's a logistical nightmare to read. 04:14 eythian oh, 'cept that @_ should be $_ 04:13 pastebot "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "that's totally understandable, right?" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/172 04:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11575 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, In Discussion , OPACBaseURL sometimes set by ENV variable and not system preference 04:13 mtompset dcook: bug 11575. 04:13 mtompset Eeeeew! 04:12 eythian and it relies on a -- along with short-circuit evaluation to determine if it should function. 04:11 eythian Oh no, I think I've just become papa. I just wrote a map containing a ternary operator containing another map. 04:11 mtompset shoot... dcook... what was that bug report that made me think of you. 04:10 mtompset what? ;) 03:49 dcook I figure being deaf has certain advantages as I get older... 03:49 wizzyrea oooo 03:49 * dcook really needs to remember to 'buy' earplugs. 03:49 dcook A wise decision. 03:47 eythian I must try to find my earplugs. 03:47 dcook Can't say that I'm really a NIN fan, but yay live music! 03:45 eythian Also that I have a ticket. 03:45 * eythian notes that Nine Inch Nails is playing tomorrow in Wellington. 03:43 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 03:14 dcook yay tcohen for 3.18! 03:12 wahanui OK, eythian. 03:12 eythian wahanui: andromeda is coming right for us! 02:41 dcook Some suggestions about how it could support deleted items would also be sweet, but yep...good ol' time.. 02:41 dcook There are a few things that should probably be fixed up with our implementation but...nothing too severe, I think. 02:38 eythian cool 02:38 dcook Yeah, I don't think there's much to it. Mostly just extending the HTTP::OAI modules so that they work specifically with Koha 02:38 dcook Feel free to CC me into those bug reports if you'd like. I would be keen to see that go through as well. 02:37 eythian The code seems nice and clean otherwise really though, albeit woefully undocumented. 02:37 eythian There's a chance we'll have to do some work on that (making it obey 942$n), in which case I'll do that as its own thing I think. 02:35 dcook Btw, eythian: Feel free to separate those packages out. I would test and sign off that patch in no time. 02:34 dcook Heaps of XSLTs look like they're there for other metadata formats though 02:34 dcook Although only marcxml and oai_dc are available metadataPrefixes by default.. 02:34 dcook So at the moment it will use an XSLT for anything that isn't marcxml 02:32 dcook That looks like the XSL we use to output oai_dc 02:32 dcook MARC21slim2OAIDC.xsl 02:27 dcook hehe 02:27 eythian I've not dared to look that deep. 02:26 dcook Actually, I can't remember if we use XSLT or the Perl modules for the oai_dc... 02:26 dcook I suppose we already do it for oai_dc in a way 02:26 dcook Well..maybe 02:26 dcook It's something we would need to do anyway if we were to become metadata agnostic 02:25 dcook In the case of DSpace, they convert from their internal metadata format to a host of others such as DC 02:25 eythian ah right 02:25 dcook Well, what I mean is just running it through a XSLT before sending it out 02:25 wahanui they are quite expensive at the moment. i should check that with electricity prices :) 02:25 eythian what are they? 02:24 dcook It might not be a bad idea to define export profiles for the OAI-PMH server. 02:23 dcook eythian: opac/oai.pl also drives me nuts 02:22 dcook OAI-PMH pretty much respects nothing 02:13 * eythian also notes that OAI-PMH doesn't respect the opac supression type things. 02:09 eythian I don't see why they wouldn't be split out like normal. 02:08 eythian I really really don't like that the packages C4::OAI::* are actually in opac/oai.pl. 01:54 eythian It didn't have blast cord. 01:53 wizzyrea It couldn't guess mine 01:51 mtj …looks 28 questions to get 'software' :) 01:51 mtj ooooh, thats very cool 01:46 eythian http://www.20q.net/ <-- like this 01:45 eythian Or just make an expert system that learns symptoms and solutions and point people to that :) 01:45 mtj eythian, agreed 01:44 mtj awesome wizzyrea :p 01:44 mtj theres a whole bunch of common newbie mistakes that a tool could detect 01:44 eythian a weekly job that tracks things like records that aren't indexed would be interesting too. 01:43 wizzyrea http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/79855460627/when-an-experienced-kohacker-looks-at-an < then it could really be like this 01:43 mtj zebra files that are owned by root, etc... 01:42 wizzyrea koha-unfsck makes me giggle. 01:41 mtj a check for wrong user/pass combos for… mysql or zebra 01:41 dcook I can't remember the criteria off the top of my head, but mostly...looking for bad records, notices not being set, and stuff like that 01:40 dcook mtj: We've started building up a monthly "audit" checking for common problems 01:40 eythian then koha-unfsck to fix issues 01:40 eythian presumably koha-fsck 01:39 mtj # koha-check mykoha 01:38 mtj i've often thought a tool to check a koha for common problems (like permissions) , would be handy too 01:36 mtj and make it easier for us to help debug newbies installs, too 01:34 mtj those type of commands are really helpful for newbies 01:33 dcook moar commands = moar fun? 01:33 wizzyrea ^ it's up there. :P 01:33 wizzyrea I just thought of another reason to have it, besides laziness 01:33 dcook hehe 01:32 wizzyrea ^.^ 01:32 wizzyrea oh, i'm not arguing. 01:32 gmcharlt er, I'm not arguing with you about the utility of a koha-info command 01:32 wizzyrea which would you rather new users do? 01:31 wizzyrea also think about the mailing list, and the documentation 01:29 wizzyrea and yeah ok you'd remember that after 10 times 01:29 wizzyrea you still have to remember the path to the variable you want though 01:28 gmcharlt yeah, phasefx found it recently 01:28 wizzyrea the one I have does basically that but with starlet ^.^ nice to know there's an alternative though 01:28 gmcharlt (for when you don't want to deal with xmlstarlet) 01:26 gmcharlt xml2 < koha-conf.xml | grep '^/yazgfs/config/pass' 01:24 wizzyrea so cuts down on error. 01:24 wizzyrea plus the tools, given the same parameters, do it exactly the same way every time. 01:24 dcook That they build the tools to do the work for them :p 01:23 dcook I seem to recall there being a quote about how the ideal sysadmin/programmer is lazy 01:23 wizzyrea but really, in response to "why" the answer is "laziness" 01:22 dcook Exactly 01:22 wizzyrea you'd have to sudo to get it so it's not a security concern (i.e. it's not anything that a user with sudo privileges can't get one way or another anywa) 01:21 wizzyrea things that have to do with connectivity, users, passwords 01:21 dcook Every now and then I want to yaz-client it up 01:21 wizzyrea yeah, something like that. 01:21 dcook The unix sockets for Zebra would be nice too 01:20 mtj koha-info --passwd mykoha 01:20 wizzyrea it could dump all of the most interesting stuff out of koha-conf.xml in a readable fashion. 01:20 wizzyrea yea, I was thinking, if you had a get info 01:19 mtj i often want to dump that info, for a koha 01:19 mtj wizzyrea, sounds like a handy thing, to me... 01:19 dcook Couldn't hurt. I would be down with it. 01:19 wizzyrea for the same reason that koha-mysql sitename is easier than mysql -u -p dbname 01:18 wizzyrea but I was wondering if it should be an included command 01:18 wizzyrea so did I 01:18 wizzyrea because you want to log in as the supersuperadmin to check on sysprefs for the library 01:18 dcook I made a get_password.sh to do exactly what you're describing though :p 01:18 dcook But I don't do much in the way of sysadmin, so I wouldn't know :) 01:18 wizzyrea laziness, mostly is your answer. 01:18 dcook I meant in what cases would a person need to know? 01:17 wizzyrea because koha-get-password sitename is faster to type than cat /etc/koha/sites/sitename/koha-conf.xml? 01:16 wizzyrea because you're a system administrator, and remembering all of the flags for xmlstarlet is onerous. 01:16 dcook I think I was using it for mysql but there is that built-in koha-mysql now isn't there? 01:16 dcook I did something like that on my VM, but why would a person want to do that, wizzyrea? 01:09 wizzyrea and if it was get info, what info do we want? 01:09 wizzyrea or a koha-get-info 01:09 wizzyrea thoughts? 01:09 * wizzyrea is contemplating a koha-get-password command line script.