Time  Nick         Message
04:17 eythian      anyone have any idea why searching would work on the staff client but not the OPAC?
04:18 dcook        What do you mean by not working?
04:18 eythian      "No results found!"
04:19 dcook        Hmm
04:19 eythian      zebra is running, hence it working on the staff client.
04:19 eythian      I don't think this is something I've seen before.
04:20 mtj          thats a new one for me too , eythian
04:21 dcook        I want to say that I have seen something like that before but not in a while..
04:21 dcook        Any hidden items or OpacSuppress on?
04:22 mtj          yeah ^^
04:22 eythian      good thought
04:22 eythian      good, and accurate thought :)
04:22 dcook        :)
04:22 eythian      thanks!
04:22 eythian      dcook++
04:23 dcook        No worries. I knew that had happened to me before too.
05:28 cait         morning #koha
05:29 dcook        hey cait :)
05:29 cait         oh, you again? :)
05:29 cait         how was monday?
05:30 eythian      hi cait
05:30 cait         hi eythian :)
05:30 eythian      monday started with a very long meeting.
05:31 eythian      At least it was with a potential new Koha user (though it'll be months before things get anywhere near decided.)
05:31 cait         aah, still a good thing
05:32 cait         any other things i should be warned of? :)
05:34 eythian      hmm, the weather is pretty good, though not quite as warm as last week.
05:36 cait         doesn't sound too bad
05:36 cait         why are you still at work?
05:38 eythian      started upgrading someone from 3.10 to 3.14, went smoother than expected, so I'm seeing if I can get it finished and deployed on the testing site before I leave.
05:41 dcook        My Monday wasn't too bad. I think I'm nearly done customizing this DSpace XMLUI, so probably going back to Koha stuff tomorrow or later this week.
05:41 eythian      dcook: you'll hate me for saying this, but look into ICA-AtoM instead of dspace :)
05:41 eythian      We've been poking at it a bit lately, and it looks very interesting.
05:41 dcook        That's awesome!
05:41 eythian      http://demo.accesstomemory.org/
05:42 dcook        A friend of mine is the product manager for ICA-AtoM I do believe
05:42 eythian      (the "demo@example.org" login was broken earlier today.)
05:42 dcook        Or at least for Artefactual
05:42 eythian      ah, cool.
05:42 dcook        ICA-AtoM is certainly on the list :)
05:42 eythian      we're hoping we'll get the chance to make an atom-koha bridge at some stage to add the borrower management and circ features that Koha has to atom.
05:43 eythian      also do catalogue synchronisation and such between them.
05:43 dcook        Sweet. Sounds like it could be pretty useful.
05:44 cait         :)
05:44 dcook        I would really like to look at ICA-AtoM and Archivematica at some point. I seem to remember someone saying that one or both were easy to write plugins for
05:45 eythian      good to know.
05:45 eythian      We've only spent a few days looking into it so far.
05:47 dcook        Fair enough. I'd love to hear more after you poke around some more. I think I'm probably going to be looking at VuFind next, but really quite interested in digital archive software.
05:47 dcook        Sounds like what you're doing could meet the needs of a few people I've chatted to in the past as well
05:48 dcook        Hmm
05:48 dcook        I wonder why https://www.ica-atom.org/ says release 1.3.1...
05:48 dcook        Old website?
05:49 eythian      I guess it must be.
05:50 dcook        How might you do the catalogue synchronisation? Wouldn't AtoM use something like EAD rather than MARC?
05:50 dcook        I suppose they're pretty similar
05:50 * dcook      says not having that much experience with archival standards
05:51 dcook        Hmm, maybe not that similar at all actually..
05:51 eythian      yeah, it'll involve something to map from something like EAD to MARC. The canonical data source will be atom, it'll never go from Koha to atom, as that risks losing data.
05:51 eythian      s/risks/guarantees/
05:51 dcook        Ah, sweet, it has a built-in related encoding attribute..
05:52 dcook        Mmm, yeah, that makes sense
06:13 dcook        Have a good day cait
06:13 dcook        night all
06:13 wahanui      goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
06:13 eythian      I'm also heading off. This upgrade went concerningly smoothly.
06:18 eythian      later all
06:24 cait         later dcook and eythian
06:55 wajasu       after spending time in the fines code (Overdues, Circulation, Account), I've gotten familiar with things.  Is there an accounting rewrite going on that will eventually replace our current accounting implementation?
06:55 wajasu       though I saw some work in progress in bugzilla.
06:55 cait         yes
06:55 cait         look for account rewrite in bugzilla
06:56 cait         it's waiting ot be tested afaik
06:57 wajasu       maybe i should just test that or write tests instead of fixing all the outstanding bugs for what is current.
07:29 * magnuse    waves
07:29 magnuse      @wunder marseille
07:29 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 5.4°C (8:29 AM CET on February 24, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
07:29 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:29 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 24, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.12 in 986 hPa (Rising).
07:29 magnuse      hah!
07:41 cait         bbl
07:41 cait         @wunder Konstanz
07:41 huginn`      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.8°C (8:40 AM CET on February 24, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:41 cait         brr
07:44 magnuse      bonjour matts
07:44 matts        hello !
07:54 reiveune     hello
07:57 marcelr      hi #koha
07:58 Joubu        hi #koha
08:00 marcelr      hi Joubu
08:02 huginn`      GERMS!!!!
08:02 wahanui      Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
08:02 cait         good morning #koha
08:08 marcelr      hi cait paul_p
08:11 paul_p       hello marcelr & #koha
08:15 cait         hi marcelr and paul_p
08:15 cait         marcelr++
08:15 cait         # race condition bug :)
08:15 marcelr      it now reached PQA: just let galen have a look :)
08:31 cait         good morning ashimema
08:31 ashimema     Good morning cait..
08:31 ashimema     good weekend?
08:31 cait         yep
08:31 cait         now travelling the next 4 weekends...
08:33 gaetan_B     hello
08:33 wahanui      hello, gaetan_B
08:36 ashimema     Wahoo.. the zebra locking patch has passed QA..
08:36 ashimema     marcelr++
08:37 marcelr      hi ashimema
08:37 ashimema     good morning marcelr.. nice follow through with the zebra patches.
08:37 marcelr      thx
08:51 cait         @wunder Konstanz
08:51 huginn`      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.6°C (9:50 AM CET on February 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
08:51 cait         lots of fog out there
08:58 ashimema     @wunder stevenage, uk
08:58 huginn`      ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 8.9°C (8:50 AM GMT on February 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
08:58 ashimema     It's a beautiful day here today.. lovl sunrise this morning.
08:58 cait         hmpf :)
08:59 ashimema     aww... sorry cait
09:00 cait         it's ok
09:00 cait         hoping for some sunny days in marseille :)
09:04 magnuse      @wunder boo
09:04 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (9:50 AM CET on February 24, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Rising).
09:05 magnuse      it's starting to clear up after a windy and rainy night
09:20 cait         ah lookin gmuch better here now too
09:20 cait         @wunder Konstanz
09:20 huginn`      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (10:00 AM CET on February 24, 2014). Conditions: Heavy Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
09:21 cait         hm sun - not fog :)
09:22 magnuse      cait: yay!
10:10 ashimema     random question.. does koha opac set anything during login that I could bind to in a .htaccess to check wether a user is logged into koha or not before allowing access to a page?
10:11 ashimema     I was hoping not to have to write a perl wrapper to hook context for just a directory of files.
10:11 ashimema     I'm sure i've done it somewhere.. but can't for the life of me remember, or finds notes on, how to
10:12 cait         ashimema: what is the goal?
10:12 wahanui      hmmm... the goal is to be more useful, not less.
10:13 ashimema     We have a few customers with a local repository of documents that are catalogued in koha (nice simple links to the directory/filename).. one such customer now wants to require koha login before access to these docs is granted.
10:14 cait         aah ok
10:14 cait         i was thinking maybe something like bug 11317
10:14 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11317 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add a way to access log files from the intranet.
10:16 cait         it's not actually for log files only... reading through the bug
10:16 cait         but also so you can get other files generated on the server, like print notices
10:19 ashimema     that could work quite nicely actually.. not exactly what I was looking for, but it is a 'nicer' solution really.
10:19 ashimema     cheers cait.. as usualy your a fountain on knolledge cait++
10:35 cait         lol
10:36 * cait       imagines wht a cait fountain would look like and shudders
10:39 magnuse      cait++
11:49 magnuse      ¡hola tcohen!
11:49 * magnuse    needs lunch
11:49 * cait       offers some red bell pepper
11:50 cait         magnuse: i think you scared tcohen away
11:54 magnuse      ohnoes
11:55 cait         ;)
12:18 tcohen       morning#koha
12:19 marcelr      hi tcohen
12:58 francharb    morning
13:16 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:28 marjorieccsr Hi, i have a question about bugzilla : i tested the patch of #11744 in 3.12 but i was not a sandbox. Could i sign off the patch?
13:29 cait         hi marjorieccsr :)
13:30 cait         3.12 is a bit old, normally the patches should be tested against the latest version - what you can always do is leave anote that you tested it
13:30 cait         and the version
13:30 wahanui      the version is always noted in a comment on top
13:32 cait         marcelr++ # comment on 9016 :)
13:32 oleonard     Bug 11744
13:32 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11744 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , cancel receipt doesn't work for one item
13:32 marcelr      cait: i am working on that bug; more to come..
13:33 marjorieccsr cait : thanks, i will leave a note on #11744
13:34 cait         marjorieccsr: it will help, the more people say it's ok the better
13:44 oleonard     Anyone else having trouble connecting to git?
13:45 * cait       tries
13:45 cait         hm gitweb is not coming up
13:45 cait         ah just slow
13:45 * cait       tries a git pull
13:45 cait         fatal: read error
13:45 cait         I can confirm something seems not to be alright
13:45 cait         gmcharlt: around?
13:45 oleonard     Yeah I got that error too
13:46 oleonard     But usually I have random git problems no one else has :P
13:46 cait         you are not alone this time :)
13:48 marcelr      anyone else seeing [ Class::XSAccessor exists but failed to load with error: Attempt to reload Class/XSAccessor.pm aborted. ]  when searching patrons in member.pl ?
13:49 * oleonard   records a plea to gmcharlt and sends it off via astromech droid inside an escape pod
13:49 druthb       "Help me, Obi Galen.  You're my only hope."
14:06 cait         druthb: rofl
14:08 oleonard     You know people bad-mouth voice-over-astromech as an inefficient means of communication, but it gets the job done.
14:14 cait         does it work now? :)
14:15 oleonard     It did for me
14:15 cait         cool :)
14:15 cait         does for me as well
14:16 cait         @quote add (14:49:13) ***oleonard records a plea to gmcharlt and sends it off via astromech droid inside an escape pod
14:16 cait         (14:49:35) druthb: "Help me, Obi Galen.  You're my only hope."
14:16 huginn`      cait: The operation succeeded.  Quote #298 added.
14:16 cait         @quote get 298
14:16 huginn`      cait: Quote #298: "(14:49:13) ***oleonard records a plea to gmcharlt and sends it off via astromech droid inside an escape pod" (added by cait at 02:16 PM, February 24, 2014)
14:16 cait         oooh
14:16 cait         @quote add ***oleonard records a plea to gmcharlt and sends it off via astromech droid inside an escape pod druthb: "Help me, Obi Galen.  You're my only hope."
14:16 huginn`      cait: The operation succeeded.  Quote #299 added.
14:16 cait         @quote get 299
14:16 huginn`      cait: Quote #299: "***oleonard records a plea to gmcharlt and sends it off via astromech droid inside an escape pod druthb: Help me, Obi Galen.  You're my only hope." (added by cait at 02:16 PM, February 24, 2014)
14:17 rhcl         @wunder 64507
14:17 huginn`      rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -3.7°C (8:17 AM CST on February 24, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising).
14:18 rhcl         I must be getting used to the cold. Doesn't seem that cold this morning.
14:18 rhcl         quote 299 is a good one
14:18 rhcl         @quote get 299
14:18 huginn`      rhcl: Quote #299: "***oleonard records a plea to gmcharlt and sends it off via astromech droid inside an escape pod druthb: Help me, Obi Galen.  You're my only hope." (added by cait at 02:16 PM, February 24, 2014)
14:19 cait         totally is, had to safe that one
14:20 rhcl         so how are things in GE cait?
14:21 cait         so far looking good
14:21 cait         sunny
14:21 druthb       @wunder konstanz
14:21 huginn`      druthb: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 8.0°C (3:15 PM CET on February 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
14:21 druthb       @wunder 77098
14:21 huginn`      druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 17.8°C (8:21 AM CST on February 24, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).  Dense fog advisory in effect until 10 am CST this morning... 
14:21 * druthb     hums innocently
14:22 cait         well... this is not texas, no.
14:22 cait         :)
14:25 * rhcl       wonders if the dates are ripe on the palm trees in Houston
14:26 nengard      Hi #koha I"m here training in Canada - say hi to the new library :)
14:26 cait         hi new Koha librarians :)
14:26 * cait       waves from Germany
14:26 rhcl         Hi Canada!
14:26 rhcl         @wunder ca
14:26 huginn`      rhcl: Error: No such location could be found.
14:27 nengard      @wunder waterloo, canada
14:27 huginn`      nengard: The current temperature in Lac Bowker, Orford, Quebec is -7.0°C (9:26 AM EST on February 24, 2014). Conditions: . Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling).
14:27 nengard      alright back to training
14:27 nengard      thanks all
14:28 rhcl         @wunder whitehorse
14:28 huginn`      rhcl: Error: No such location could be found.
14:34 cait         sorry for all the bugzilla emails... my old number problem
14:36 magnuse      @wunder boo
14:36 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (3:20 PM CET on February 24, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.30 in 992 hPa (Steady).
14:41 rcp          hi
14:42 oleonard     Hi rcp
14:42 rcp          is there a guide that I can use for codding Koha
14:43 oleonard     What are you trying to do rcp?
14:43 rcp          starting with the installation
14:43 oleonard     packages?
14:43 wahanui      packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
14:43 rcp          I tried to install the last version but I couldnt manage
14:43 oleonard     That link is the best place to start with installation rcp
14:44 cait         rcp: do you want to use koha or develop for it?
14:44 rcp          I install is but when I start the site with localhost:8080 it gives me sthing like that
14:45 rcp          #!/usr/bin/perl # This file is part of Koha. # # Koha is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the # terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software # Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later # version. # # Koha is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY # WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR # A PARTICULAR PURPO
14:45 rcp          .....
14:45 rcp          it dosnt show the site properly
14:45 oleonard     rcp: What version of Linux are you using rcp?
14:45 rcp          xubuntu
14:46 oleonard     rcp: Are you using packages?
14:46 rcp          packages???
14:46 wahanui      packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
14:48 oleonard     rcp: packages are they way Debian and Ubuntu handle software installation. If you install Koha using packages it's easier than manual installation.
14:50 oleonard     rcp: Try these installation instructions if you want something written specifically for Ubuntu: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
14:51 rcp          thank you for your help, I will search the http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages site
14:52 oleonard     rcp: You don't need to search, you just need to follow those instructions.
14:53 rcp          Ok, oleonard, thanks
14:58 rcp          oleonard, I am new at Koha, now I am learning the algorithm of the program. I want to do something useful for Koha. I hope I will get answers while learning from you, as you help me now. thanks
14:59 oleonard     Anyone here can help you out rcp. Good luck.
15:08 dbs          To the authors of the ubuntu install from git instructions: many thanks, they worked like a charm when I installed Koha for the first time. My only hiccup was in assigning only 4GB to the VM; might be worth a warning up front about a requirement for more disk space than that :)
15:09 oleonard     dbs: Why not edit the guide?
15:09 dbs          oleonard: I was talking about the readme in git, but yes, I could submit a patch
15:09 oleonard     Okay then, why not submit a patch? ;)
15:12 JesseM       Morning #koha
15:12 JesseM       i think the k-c.org web site is down
15:13 rhcl         down http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/koha-community.org
15:26 * dbs        files bug 11830 accordingly
15:26 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11830 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Document disk space requirements for git install on Ubuntu
15:26 dbs          Guess I should take & NEEDS SIGNOFF that for good measure
16:00 cait         it's so quiet
16:00 rhcl         @later tell wizzyrea can you kickstart k-c.org?
16:00 huginn`      rhcl: The operation succeeded.
16:01 oleonard     I wonder if we need to re-think k-c.org's infrastructure somehow.
16:14 tcohen       hi cait
16:20 cait         hi tcohen :)
16:20 tcohen       is your spanish improving?
16:34 * oleonard   can only say that his Spanish is probably not getting any worse
16:34 cait         tcohen: heh, not yet
16:41 rhcl         oleonard: probably should be a discussion topic, sí?
17:04 * cait       sighs
17:14 reiveune     bye
17:25 fridolin     see u
17:54 tcohen       gmcharlt: around?
18:09 gaetan_B     bye !
18:47 magnuse      developer meeting tomorrow, right?
18:47 magnuse      developer meeting?
18:47 wahanui      developer meeting is probably http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developers_IRC_Meeting,_February_25,_2014
18:47 cait         yep
18:47 cait         think so
18:48 cait         16pm?
18:48 magnuse      16:00CET
18:48 magnuse      and 22:00CET
18:49 bag          heya cait and magnuse
18:49 cait         heya bag :)
18:49 bag          2 weeks until we'll see you
18:49 * bag        needs to pack still :P
18:49 magnuse      bag: very cool!
18:49 * magnuse    too
18:49 bag          heh
18:49 bag          magnuse: did you rent an apartment again?
18:50 magnuse      yup
18:50 magnuse      not the same one, but quite close
18:50 magnuse      bag: have yu booked anything yet?
18:51 bag          yes we're staying in a hotel down near the water
18:54 magnuse      ah, but not in the water?
18:55 cait         silly magnuse :)
18:55 * cait       hopes not, because she wants to have dinner with pianohacker
18:55 magnuse      in stockholm you can stay on an old boat: http://www.svenskaturistforeningen.se/en/Discover-Sweden/Facilities-and-activities/Stockholm/Vandrarhem/STF-Hostel-Stockholmaf-Chapman/Photos/
18:57 cait         :)
19:52 JesseM       Who can reboot the koha-community.org website?
19:53 oleonard     web sites?
19:53 wahanui      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Website_Administration
19:53 oleonard     wizzyrea, rangi, or gmcharlt
20:07 oleonard     Anyone around who understands authority record hierarchies? I thought I might try again
20:07 oleonard     I want to understand how the jstree plugin is being used but I don't know how to trigger multiple levels of hierarchy in the authorities interface
20:09 wajasu       if i test and comment about a patch failing, what status should I set it to.  OR just leave it and the comment will get emailed for further work by the assigned person.
20:10 oleonard     wajasu: "failed QA"
20:10 wahanui      well, "failed QA" is the correct status.
20:11 wajasu       i'm just starting to get into testing and need reminding.  Thanks.
20:14 oleonard     wajasu++
20:14 cait         hi oleonard
20:14 cait         did you see my example?
20:14 oleonard     cait: I did but I didn't understand what about it created the hierarchy
20:14 cait         let's see
20:15 cait         it's been a while :)
20:15 cait         http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8523#c19
20:15 huginn`      04Bug 8523: normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, CLOSED FIXED, Authority hierarchies only support UNIMARC
20:15 cait         ok
20:15 cait         I had used geograpical
20:15 cait         151$a is the main entry
20:15 cait         say
20:15 cait         Germany
20:16 cait         then you put in 551$a the entry that is below, in my case i used the state
20:16 cait         the $w is the important bit
20:16 cait         i think you can also use a plugin to set that
20:16 cait         the $w says where in the hierarchy it is, up or down
20:17 cait         so h says that it's below (in the tree) and g should be for the authority above
20:17 cait         does that make sense?
20:18 cait         When you look at the last 3 authorities I listed - Fürstenberg and Paradies are both quarters in Konstanz
20:19 cait         ah, if you use the plugin next to 551, you can use broader term and narrower term in the special relationship pull down at the bottom
20:19 cait         and aso make sure that you have turned on the system preference
20:19 cait         oleonard: still there? :)
20:19 oleonard     Confused.
20:19 wahanui      confused is "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"
20:20 cait         the hierarchies work on broader and narrower terms
20:21 oleonard     What system preference?
20:21 cait         AuthDisplayHierarchy
20:21 wahanui      somebody said AuthDisplayHierarchy was on
20:21 cait         turn that on
20:21 oleonard     Yeah, that's on.
20:21 cait         then go and catalog a geographical subject - start with some 151$aUSA, then enter 551 - use the plugin
20:22 cait         and select narrower term from the special relation ship
20:26 oleonard     select narrower term from the special relation ship?
20:27 cait         yes
20:27 oleonard     I don't understand
20:27 cait         did you click on the plugin?
20:27 cait         next to 551$a?
20:27 oleonard     Yes
20:27 cait         do you see the special relationship pull down at the bottom?
20:27 oleonard     Oh I see it now
20:28 wajasu       i am going to try to modify the m880 template rule in XSLT to allow a param  style='list'  or style ='table'  so one can emit headings and use styling to format. we'll see how it goes.
20:29 cait         ?
20:29 cait         wajasu: what are you trying to do?
20:30 cait         you know tat mm880 is only used for original script?
20:30 wajasu       the default script?
20:30 cait         original script, like hebre
20:30 cait         w
20:31 cait         here is an example:
20:31 cait         https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=30613
20:31 cait         the hebrew and the russian are 880 fields
20:31 wajasu       let me look at something. i might mean something else.
20:35 oleonard     cait: Does the hierarchy only ever show two levels?
20:35 cait         hmi think so
20:35 cait         the one above and the one below?
20:37 oleonard     I see
20:39 oleonard     I question the utility of a tree-view plugin if we are displaying at most three levels, above, current, and below.
20:41 cait         youmight want to ask jared about that bit :)
20:42 cait         jcamins?
20:42 wahanui      rumour has it jcamins is too young to be the President of the United States.  Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election
20:42 druthb       lol
20:42 jcamins      I believe it will go down further.
20:43 rangi        morning
20:45 eythian      hi
20:45 wahanui      que tal, eythian
20:45 oleonard     rangi: Can you give k-c.org a kick?
20:45 wajasu       cait: i had made an attempt to change the  subject headings 600,610,611,630,68,650,651,654,655,656,657,658,662  to have html tags for either list or tables so that I could CSS style accordingly. my librarian doesn't want the compact piped summary.
20:45 wajasu       in xslt
20:46 cait         i think i would avoid tables
20:46 wajasu       list would do.
20:46 cait         but 880 is not responsiblehere I think
20:48 oleonard     Okay, yeah I seem to have managed to make it show a more complex tree
20:48 oleonard     Should be enough to test with. Thanks cait and jcamins
20:49 rangi        oleonard: i can try
20:50 rangi        nope cant ssh to it
20:50 cait         oleonard++
20:53 talljoy      o/ druthb
20:53 druthb       o/ talljoy
20:53 talljoy      hows things?
20:55 oleonard     koha-community.org has been down for at least six hours now
20:56 druthb       good, good… my day here is almost over. :)
20:57 druthb       @quote get 299
20:57 huginn`      druthb: Quote #299: "***oleonard records a plea to gmcharlt and sends it off via astromech droid inside an escape pod druthb: Help me, Obi Galen.  You're my only hope." (added by cait at 02:16 PM, February 24, 2014)
20:57 * cait       giggles
20:57 druthb       I feel a nap coming on, when I get home.  Then beat a mail server into submission.
20:59 rhcl         rangi: where is the k-c server physically located? The page seems to say England?
21:00 rangi        i have no idea
21:01 rangi        yep, linode uk
21:03 rangi        Permission denied (publickey).
21:03 rangi        im not going to be able to ssh to it
21:04 cait         wizzyrea not around today?
21:04 rangi        nope soren is sick
21:06 cait         aah poor soren
21:15 oleonard     Bye #koha
21:16 rhcl         k-c.org is up now
21:31 rhcl         and now it's down? wonder if it's under a DOS attack?
22:08 cait         @wunder Konstanz
22:08 huginn`      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.1°C (11:05 PM CET on February 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
22:08 eythian      @wunder nzwn
22:08 huginn`      eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on February 25, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
22:08 eythian      I win.
22:09 cait         t depends
22:09 cait         coldest wins
22:09 eythian      who would make a rule like that?
22:16 rhcl         @wunder 64507
22:16 wajasu       @wunder Dallas
22:16 huginn`      rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 0.4°C (4:16 PM CST on February 24, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
22:16 huginn`      wajasu: Error: No such location could be found.
22:17 rhcl         I'm colder
22:18 cait         eythian: people at cold places, because we need every bit of happiness we can get? :)
22:18 eythian      heh
22:26 wajasu       oh.  i see. why my xslt list is one line item.  its a 505a  (formatted contents note.  at least it worked for Subjects.
22:47 pianohacker  hi guys
22:47 pianohacker  @seen cait
22:47 huginn`      pianohacker: cait was last seen in #koha 29 minutes and 13 seconds ago: <cait> eythian: people at cold places, because we need every bit of happiness we can get? :)
22:48 pianohacker  @later tell cait bug 11211 got signoff :)
22:48 huginn`      pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
22:48 pianohacker  woot. Bye!
22:48 eythian      bug 11211
22:48 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar