Time  Nick         Message
00:24 wajasu       been testing bug 11211.  got through steps 1-4.  does anyone know if i need to checkout an item and run the fines job after the due date and see if it takes into consideration any "closed" days?
00:25 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
00:25 wajasu       maybe a test would be in order.
00:31 wajasu       its times like these that i wish i could just code a test against modules.  CreateBorrower, CatalogItem,  CheckoutItemWithSpecifiedDueDate, CalcFineAsOfDate.  Then Do the same but with CreateCalendarEventOn, and CalcFineAsOfDate to see affects.
00:48 wizzyrea     you people are nice, I appreciate you.
00:50 dcook        Wha?
00:50 * dcook      thinks wizzyrea is in the wrong channel
00:50 dcook        Nah, people are heaps nice. You're pretty rad yourself, wizzyrea
00:51 wizzyrea     pft
00:54 dcook        O_O
04:09 * dcook      makes some nice just for something different
04:09 dcook        Figuratively...or textually that is...
06:20 paxed        ffs. tried to make 'ä' and 'a' separate by editing word-phrase-utf.chr, and now zebra can't find anything if the search string contains a 'ä' ...
06:23 dcook        That's not fun. You're probably better off using ICU indexing if you have diacritics
06:27 paxed        dcook: ugh. what files whould i need to touch for icu?
06:27 paxed        i'm really starting to hate zebra
06:35 brendan_     icu?
06:35 wahanui      somebody said icu was a good idea.
07:02 cait         paxed: check the wiki for instructions
07:02 cait         dcook: standard icu won't treat a and ä differently
07:03 cait         dcook: it's kinda the point of it that it will make it possible to search all things with the base characters - but people here don't dislike that
07:09 cait         paxed: we also have umlauts in German - people don't seem to have a problem with the fact that we don't differentiate in search - I have one library using ICU because they have Hebrew records
07:09 cait         [off] http://hfjs.bsz-bw.de < if you want to test
07:10 cait         paxed: if you have non latin scripts in your database there is no way around ICU
07:10 paxed        cait: because German is not Finnish.
07:10 cait         no it is not
07:10 cait         but it's still different characters
07:10 paxed        ä is totally different case
07:10 cait         it is here too
07:12 paxed        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_alphabet vs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_alphabet
07:12 cait         well they don't list the umlauts, they are still there :)
07:13 paxed        in finnish ä is not a with an umlaut. it's a separate letter.
07:13 cait         i don't know finnish really, but you can't replay a and ä in german words
07:13 cait         the sound may be similar, but the word is not
07:14 paxed        doesn't seem to matter, if your users are happy with collating ä and a.
07:14 cait         i think the results are still not too bad, because there is the rest of the word as well
07:14 cait         and there is fuzzy searching nowadays
07:14 cait         so people are used that non exact matches might show up as well
07:15 cait         and some databases do work like that as well
07:15 cait         but that's my guess
07:15 paxed        (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
07:15 cait         i think what you want to do is possible, but you will have to change things
07:15 paxed        i'd be happy to change things, if the things were documented ...
07:16 cait         you might want to start here
07:16 cait         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Correcting_Search_of_Arabic_records
07:17 cait         ICU is not Koha specific or even Zebra - i think there is documentation on the web
07:18 cait         http://site.icu-project.org/home#TOC-What-is-ICU-
07:20 cait         http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/icuchain-files.html
07:22 * dcook      thinks ICU is related to IBM
07:24 dcook        Hmm, yeah, I don't know why you'd necessarily want to differentiate between ä and a
07:24 dcook        Err "need" rather than "want"
07:25 paxed        shall i flip the table again?
07:25 dcook        Only if it's dramatic?
07:25 cait         time for work bye
07:25 dcook        ta, cait
07:26 dcook        Anyway, my day is over. Good luck, paxed
07:26 paxed        because "sää" and "saa", for example. totally different meanings
07:27 paxed        not the same word. not pronounced the same. not the same meaning. not ordered in any other way except the correct alphabetical order.
07:36 * magnuse    waves
07:38 reiveune     hello
07:43 alex_a       bonjour
07:44 magnuse      bonjour reiveune alex_a
07:44 magnuse      @wunder marseille
07:44 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 8.3°C (8:44 AM CET on February 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
07:44 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:44 huginn`      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Falling).
07:44 reiveune     salut magnuse
07:44 magnuse      windchill--
07:47 alex_a       bonjour magnuse
07:47 alex_a       et reiveune
07:59 huginn`      GERMS!!!!
07:59 wahanui      i guess germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg
08:00 Joubu        hello
08:00 wahanui      bidet, Joubu
08:01 cait         guten morgen #koha
08:16 magnuse      god morgen cait & #koha
08:43 paxed        ahh. so <transform rule="NFD"/><transform rule="[:Nonspacing Mark:] Remove"/><transform rule="NFC"/> turns all accented letters into ones without accents.
08:50 paxed        i have no idea how i'd do remove accepts, except from ö, ä and å.
08:50 paxed        accents*
09:39 paxed        magnuse: how do you handle searching for å etc?
09:41 paxed        magnuse: for example, do you differentiate between "da" and "då" when searching?
09:42 paxed        ah, bad example as it seems both are the same word, just alt forms.
09:50 magnuse      paxed: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=etc/zebradb/lang_defs/nb/sort-string-utf.chr;h=9cb9c56c6e54ba05fcd13053b6e443187b2e2feb;hb=HEAD - never had any complaints
10:01 paxed        magnuse: that's for _sorting_, not for searching.
10:04 paxed        for example, searching for "rölli" returns also "rolling stones", because zebra matches ö and o.
10:25 magnuse      paxed: well as i said, no complaints
10:26 paxed        bah.
12:24 mveron       Hi #koha
12:33 cait         hi mveron
12:33 mveron       Hi cait :-)
12:34 mveron       I'm struggling with advanced search in the OPAC, restricting to languages...
12:35 mveron       Language code in 040 a is ger
12:35 mveron       But I get no results
12:38 mveron       ...ah, I mistaked, forget this... :-)
12:48 tcohen       morning #koha
12:53 cait         tcohen: morning :)
12:53 cait         mveron: sorry, was afk
12:57 francharb    good morning #koha
12:58 cait         hi francharb
12:58 francharb    o/ cait
13:12 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:16 cait         h oleonard :)
13:16 cait         posible you already fixed 10751 in one of your patches?
13:18 oleonard     Hm, I don't think so
13:19 cait         ah ok
13:19 oleonard     Thanks for pointing it out, I hadn't seen that one on my list
13:19 cait         i was testing suggestions earlier and looked at the related bugs
13:19 cait         thought it might be included in the validation patches, but couldn't find the right one
13:28 ashimema     ooh.. has someone been tidying the wiki?  I've noticed a whole load of extensions have disapeared and some of my favourite one's have been installed.
13:29 * cait       is innocent
13:29 cait         but i noticed it looked tidier this morning
13:31 cait         hm mabe i just imagined it
13:31 cait         the list of categories on editing is still there...
13:31 oleonard     Hi ashimema
13:34 ashimema     yeah.. I think I got confused..
13:34 ashimema     too
13:34 ashimema     i thought there were more extentions installed.. but now I'm less sure.
13:34 ashimema     Hi oleonard
13:35 cait         khall++ :)
13:35 khall        : )
13:35 khall        mornin cait et al!
13:36 cait         on some happy news... i am testing koha notices today, all emails koha can send and so far it works quite well :)
13:37 khall        excellent!
13:37 magnuse      yay
13:37 magnuse      cait: testing on master?
13:37 cait         yep
13:51 Joubu        khall: I answered you on bug 11689 ;)
13:51 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11689 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , New missing statuses is not well managed
13:51 khall        thanks!
14:27 cait         thx oleonard!
14:28 cait         khall: also tested the patron registraton feature - it's nice with the one time URL :)
14:28 * oleonard   validates all the things
14:28 khall        thanks!
14:28 cait         it's been sent from the admin address - because branch can be optional?
14:29 cait         i was testing from which address each mail is sent :)
14:32 khall        pretty much, I wouldn't be hard to make it try the branch address first though
14:33 cait         hm i might file an enh request if that's ok?
14:33 khall        sure!
14:33 cait         makes me feel more thorough about my investigations :)
14:36 khall        lol ; )
14:38 cait         bug 11813
14:38 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11813 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Send 'Opac self registration verification' email from branch address if possible
14:54 Joubu        khall: I started a patch for the constant in C4::Serials, I didn't see you submit one.
14:54 khall        sorry! I should have said something in channel. If yours is better than mine just depricate it
14:54 Joubu        Do you see an inconvenience to create another report to add the constant statuses?
14:55 Joubu        Like that, I can submit my followup on top of yours
14:56 Joubu        khall: Both are complementary I think. You manage all statuses, I dealt with missing statuses only.
14:56 khall        excellent!
14:57 khall        that sounds like a good plan Joubu
14:58 Joubu        khall: So, I am going to open a new report with your patch and mine
14:58 khall        duly noted!
15:08 cait         Joubu: i wondered earlier - is it still possible to start a subscription at not the first issue? i tried with a monthly frequency, volume issue pattern
15:08 cait         but whatever i set the inner coutner to, it didn't seem to change how the prediction was made
15:16 Joubu        cait: I'm trying to understand the question ;)
15:16 cait         i think i was confused by the inner counter
15:16 cait         i am not sure what it's used for actually - it used to be the current number... I think
15:16 cait         when you select 1/month
15:17 jajm         cait, what do you mean by "not the first issue" ?
15:17 cait         you are starting to use serials mid of the year
15:17 cait         or you subscribe late and don't receive the first isssue
15:17 cait         i mean you could also delete the first issues... ubt it might be a bit annoying for something that is like weekly
15:18 jajm         cait, isn't the "Begins with" what you are looking for ?
15:18 cait         the frequency i tried was 1/month
15:18 cait         issues 12
15:18 cait         subscription start 1st february
15:19 cait         numbering pattern volume, number
15:20 cait         then you have: Begins with and Inner counter to be set
15:20 cait         and i don't know what inner counter does
15:20 cait         it seems to work when i set Begins with 2014 2 - but what is inner counter for then?
15:21 jajm         cait, innercounter is used when every > 1, innercounter is incremented for each serial received, and when innercounter > every, the number (X, Y, or Z) is incremented
15:22 cait         hm jajm - i am sorry, i don't understand yet
15:22 cait         could you give an example?
15:23 jajm         cait, say you have a numbering pattern which works like this: Vol 1 No 1, Vol 1 No 2, Vol 1 No 3, Vol 2 No 1, ... (Vol {X} No {Y})
15:23 cait         ok
15:23 jajm         X has to be incremented every 3 serials (every = 3)
15:24 cait         hm that's what the rollover at used to be
15:24 cait         i think
15:24 jajm         when the first serial is received, innercounter = 1, 2nd serial: innercounter = 2, ..., 4th serial, innercounter = 4 (> 3) then innercounter is reset to 1 and X is incremented
15:25 cait         i see how that would work in the advanced pattern - but why show it when i don't have it open?
15:25 cait         i tried setting several values and the prediction pattern is always the same
15:25 jajm         if you want your subscription to start at Vol 1 No 3 for example, you will have to set innercounter
15:26 Joubu        cait: there are some examples on the manual: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.14/en/backpackerserial.html
15:26 cait         so the first example
15:26 cait         why is innr counter 2?
15:28 jajm         cait, because Y begins with 3, so we have to set innercounter in order for X to be incremented when Y will be reset to 1
15:28 cait         ah
15:28 cait         hm that could cause qite some trouble with people forgetting
15:28 cait         because the prediction is the same, when you forget it and when not
15:30 cait         hmmi see how it works now - thank you jajm
15:30 cait         better train people to always test the prediction pattern with lots of issues, to see the rollover
15:31 cait         jajm++
15:31 cait         Joubu++
15:31 cait         i made a screenshot, so I don't forget :)
15:31 cait         did you see bug 11637 i reported?
15:31 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11637 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No way to prevent a prediction date for the next issue in serials
15:32 cait         it's a small regression i think - or i couldn't figure out how to do it
15:34 jajm         cait, yes it's a regression, I was not aware of this 'XXX' behaviour when I made these changes
15:36 cait         is there a chance for a patch? I think it might be a bit too hard for me, not knowing exactly how it all works together now
15:36 cait         ... not that i understood the serials code before the changes
15:40 jajm         :)
15:43 jajm         cait, maybe we can choose something different from "XXX"... maybe "N/A" ?
15:44 cait         i am not attached to XXX
15:44 cait         :)
15:44 cait         Exact date unknown?
15:44 cait         I think the problem might be that the XXX might hide in the pl files
15:44 cait         no reason to not make that nicer, but maybe more work to switch to a translatable string
15:45 cait         or just: date unknown?
15:45 cait         native speakers? oleonard?
15:45 jajm         cait, not a problem, since bug 8044 will be pushed to master soon, right? :)
15:45 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Localization for Perl scripts and modules
15:46 oleonard     cait: What are we talking about?
15:46 cait         when you have an irregular subscription, you don't know when the next issue will arrive
15:46 cait         so in the past the expected date got set to XXX
15:47 cait         jajm: no idea about 8044 - i wouldn't rely on it right now ;)
15:47 cait         actually i didn't realize until right now that it was to solve htis
15:47 cait         hm.
15:47 cait         oleonard: and we are discussing better options for XXX
15:48 cait         jajm: i think n/a means not available - wondering if patrons might think it will never get published then
15:52 oleonard     n/a means "not applicable"
15:53 francharb    cait, during my trainings, I explain the innercounter this way : you have to define it only when you have a numbering that goes back to 1 (usually, Vol. N°) and when you start receiving not at the first issue of the numbering of the current year. Inner counter is the number of issues you would have received if you had started to receive it from the beginning of the numbering this year.
15:54 francharb    hope it's understandable... ;)
15:55 cait         francharb: it is, but i would have expected it to be set in the same column as the letter it belongs to
15:55 cait         http://manual.koha-community.org/3.14/en/backpackerserial.html
15:55 cait         i would have set it under Number
15:56 francharb    funny, not me
15:56 cait         different minds :)
15:56 francharb    different logic
15:56 cait         but it's ok, i think i got it now, need to tinker a bit more
15:56 francharb    in the end, no matter you put it, the inner counter works for every variable I think
15:56 cait         oleonard: aaah, ok, i will have to check my translations :)
15:57 francharb    there is only 1 inner conter
15:57 cait         francharb: hm?
15:58 francharb    cait, only one inner counter to rull them all
15:58 francharb    :)
15:58 cait         so why show three input fields?
15:58 francharb    good point
15:59 francharb    cait, I may be wrong...
16:00 cait         maybe it's for a very weird pattern we can't imagine right now :)
16:00 francharb    not sure because I think the database only have one innercounter field...
16:00 francharb    lets check
16:00 cait         it used t have one for each variable
16:01 cait         haven#t checked the new structure yet
16:01 francharb    I'm wrong
16:02 francharb    there are 3 innerloops column in the subscription tables
16:02 francharb    anyway, so far I only had to work with 1 inner counter
16:02 francharb    ;)
16:03 cait         that's good :)
16:03 cait         i think i understand better now
16:03 cait         :)
16:03 francharb    :)
16:10 cait         francharb++ :)
16:11 francharb    thanks :)
16:11 oleonard     dbs: Bug 11786 is ready for signoff is it not?
16:11 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap
16:14 cait         oleonard++ too :)
16:14 dbs          oleonard: I believe so
16:15 dbs          Is there anything else I need to do?
16:16 oleonard     dbs: Assign it to yourself and change the status to "needs signoff"
16:18 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7372: (follow-up) remove last traces of roadtype table and admin pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2be50eba0fe16a7243722f3edac56447c2b6fa75> / Bug 7372: DBRev 3.15.00.018 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=67653c8d5f2702ae6e9a110a22a15d68b199c938> / Bug 7372: Move road types from the roadtype table to the ROADTYPE AV <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe
16:19 oleonard     Hm, so much for Bug 11770...
16:19 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11770 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use validation plugin when creating new road type
16:20 cait         oleonard: oups.
16:20 cait         oleonard: but it's still nice to see it die somehow
16:20 * cait       sends oleonard cookies
16:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #357 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #355 21 hr ago)
16:24 * oleonard   sits patiently waiting for the cookies to arrive
16:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #1641 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:27 cait         hehe
16:27 cait         have a good weekend everyone :)
16:38 dbs          oleonard: will do
16:49 dbs          oleonard: okay, I think bug 11786 is in the right state now :)
16:49 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dan, Needs Signoff , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap
16:50 oleonard     thanks dbs. Now the bug will show up in the "needs signoff" queue and hopefully attract some attention.
17:02 dbs          oleonard++ # thank you!
17:23 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
17:23 wahanui      o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
17:23 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #357: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/357/
17:23 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7372: Move road types from the roadtype table to the ROADTYPE AV
17:23 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7372: DBRev 3.15.00.018
17:23 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7372: (follow-up) remove last traces of roadtype table and admin pages
17:23 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , RoadTypes should be folded into Authorised Values
17:24 * cait       waves
17:29 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11562: re-sort sysprefs.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=988dc3b64af00d34f535b811f4093782ac7925a1>
17:30 jenkins_koha Starting build #358 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED)
17:47 JesseM       koha-communtiy.org is down again
17:47 JesseM       koha-community.org  :)
17:49 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10580: (follow-up) tweak wording about looking for zebrasrv & zebraidx <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d276d58099fa60666bccc13c7b9d839946946c1> / Bug 10580: adjust Makefile.PL to reflect that Zebra no longer optional in Koha setup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b989fe0b2097d747da1fd6d04aa8aecc5652d06>
18:16 reiveune     bye
18:17 wajasu       pianotuner. got a question about testing bug 11211
18:17 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
18:19 oleonard     wajasu: pianohacker.
18:19 wahanui      i think pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems.
18:19 wajasu       ahh ;)
18:26 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #358: SUCCESS in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/358/
18:26 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 11562: re-sort sysprefs.sql
18:26 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11562 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , QA: the sysprefs.sql is not correctly sorted
18:29 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11799: Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e0d450875f24d1f9ef6620b033b5179633589da>
18:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #359 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:39 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9677 - Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36eac129f7fdab89ffd77ba5f3bd3add688deedc>
18:44 wajasu       pianohacker: got some questions on testing bug 11211
18:44 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
18:46 wajasu       maybe someone else can help.  he wants me to test calculcation code based onthe calendar event i create.  i am guessing he means the staticfines.pl and fines.pl scripts.
18:46 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1641: SUCCESS in 2 hr 22 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1641/
18:46 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7372: Move road types from the roadtype table to the ROADTYPE AV
18:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7372: DBRev 3.15.00.018
18:46 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7372: (follow-up) remove last traces of roadtype table and admin pages
18:46 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7372 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , RoadTypes should be folded into Authorised Values
18:48 wajasu       i suppose i could  run the scripts after checking out an item making it overdue and see the calculation results before and after to see if the holiday is taken into consideration.
18:49 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11256: (follow-up) tweak description of the OpacMaxItemsToDisplay syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=827c7e8ece70ef3ff919d863489bab93010dd7a3> / Bug 11256: DBRev 3.15.00.019 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0e56963fba78f3ac0e0dbedcc4fb8f601168414> / Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page - bootstrap <http://git.koh
18:50 wajasu       whats the difference between fines.pl and staticfines.pl?
18:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #1642 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:58 oleonard     jcamins: Around?
18:59 jcamins      Sort of. What's up?
18:59 oleonard     Got a weird problem that is stumping me... I'll lay it out and you can think about it if you have time.
18:59 jcamins      Sure.
19:00 oleonard     In the staff client, do a search, click to view the details for one of the titles--one with items. From the Edit menu choose "Delete record."
19:01 oleonard     An alert appears warning me that I can't delete, but the page redirects to the delete page anyway
19:01 oleonard     If I navigate directly to that detail page the delete action is correctly blocked.
19:01 oleonard     The problem only happens when the 'browse results' widget is active.
19:02 oleonard     ...hence me bugging you.
19:02 jcamins      Hmm.
19:04 jcamins      oleonard: we're using return false and we should be using ev.preventDefault();
19:04 oleonard     That's what I thought too, but changing it didn't work.
19:04 jcamins      Oh.
19:04 jcamins      Hm.
19:06 jcamins      I'll have to think about it, because I've never seen anything like that.
19:07 oleonard     thanks
19:11 oleonard     jcamins: I think I've got it. In browser.js:
19:11 oleonard     $('a[href*="biblionumber="]').click(function (ev) {
19:11 oleonard     that's picking up the delete link
19:11 jcamins      Ah, yeah.
19:23 oleonard     Bug 11817
19:23 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11817 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Staff client next/previous browse JavaScript interferes with other JS functions
19:30 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #359: SUCCESS in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/359/
19:30 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10580: adjust Makefile.PL to reflect that Zebra no longer optional in Koha setup
19:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10580: (follow-up) tweak wording about looking for zebrasrv & zebraidx
19:30 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11799: Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm
19:30 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9677 - Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap
19:30 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10580 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Remove NoZebra reference from Makefile.pl
19:30 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11799 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm
19:30 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9677 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap
19:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #360 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:49 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11471: Display the currency for baskets in a basketgroup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a2dec05eddc979b5a957a651e393838c13560c4>
20:19 huginn`      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11789 - Use validation plugin when creating new list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4677bb52616794457f616571479aab6425be75f9>
20:24 cait         gmcharlt++
20:32 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #360: SUCCESS in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/360/
20:32 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page.
20:32 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page - bootstrap
20:32 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11256: DBRev 3.15.00.019
20:32 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11256: (follow-up) tweak description of the OpacMaxItemsToDisplay syspref
20:32 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page
20:37 gmcharlt     oleonard: lazyweb time - what's the appropriate CSS close to use for a warning message to accompany a form input in Bootstrap?
20:37 gmcharlt     *class
20:37 oleonard     I'm not sure what you mean... what kind of message?
20:37 gmcharlt     apropos of 10865, in the OPAC list edit form
20:38 gmcharlt     something to the effect of "The library has turned off the ability to create new public lists.  Please note that if you change your list to private, you will not be able to make it public again."
20:38 gmcharlt     next to the category drop-down
20:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #361 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:38 jcamins      .alert
20:39 oleonard     Not for a message which is inline with the form if I understand gmcharlt correctly
20:39 gmcharlt     yeah, I'm thinking inline
20:39 jcamins      Oh, no idea.
20:41 oleonard     Out of the box Bootstrap has <span class="help-inline"> or <span class="help-block"> for text accompanying inputs, but those are basically unstyled
20:41 oleonard     so I think we're looking at adding some custom style
20:42 gmcharlt     I'm about to put up a follow-up to that bug; mind if I leave it to you to style it?
20:42 oleonard     Not at all
20:42 * oleonard   runs away
20:42 gmcharlt     whew!
20:42 gmcharlt     caught him in time! ;)
20:53 wajasu       is that libdbix-class-timestamp-perl only available on wheezy?  i was going to install it on squeeze to test master as I got an error  when testing.
20:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1642: SUCCESS in 2 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1642/
20:54 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11562: re-sort sysprefs.sql
20:54 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10580: adjust Makefile.PL to reflect that Zebra no longer optional in Koha setup
20:54 pastebot     "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "error while navigating patron package::stash" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/136
20:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10580: (follow-up) tweak wording about looking for zebrasrv & zebraidx
20:54 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11799: Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm
20:54 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9677 - Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap
20:54 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page.
20:54 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11562 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , QA: the sysprefs.sql is not correctly sorted
20:54 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11256: Opac: Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page - bootstrap
20:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11256: DBRev 3.15.00.019
20:54 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10580 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Remove NoZebra reference from Makefile.pl
20:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11256: (follow-up) tweak description of the OpacMaxItemsToDisplay syspref
20:54 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11799 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Housekeeping: Remove _biblionumber_sth from VirtualShelves.pm
20:54 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9677 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Style button on notices and slips page with Bootstrap
20:54 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a number of items to display on a biblio detail page
20:56 wajasu       gmcharlt: is the DBIx:Class::Schema:Loader required and if so does that mean we are targetting wheezy for the upcoming debian only? (see last 2 irc lines)
20:57 gmcharlt     one second while I look at the specifics
20:57 gmcharlt     but the general answer is that squeeze is going away in a few short months regardless
20:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #1643 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:58 gmcharlt     er, libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl is available in squeeze
20:59 wajasu       i couldn't find anything for squeeze.  https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stable&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libdbix-class-schema-loader
20:59 wajasu       got a better whay to search.
20:59 gmcharlt     remember that packaged perl modules have their names end in -perl
20:59 gmcharlt     https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl
20:59 wajasu       ahh
20:59 wajasu       thx
21:03 wajasu       well. just noticed that the libtemplate-plugin-javascript-perl is not in squeeze.  Thats for a test I am doing for bug 11211, which refactors some calendar code from C4 to Koha.
21:03 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
21:07 gmcharlt     wajasu: sure looks like it's in squeeze to me - https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libtemplate-plugin-javascript-perl
21:09 wajasu       gmcharlt: ran koha_perl_deps.pl and got Template::Plugin::JavaScript                  0.01 *            0.02                    Yes, so maybe pianohacker installed on wheezy, or ?
21:11 jcamins      gmcharlt: is there a way to see when a particular package was added?
21:11 jcamins      Never mind.
21:11 wahanui      Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
21:12 gmcharlt     heh
21:12 jcamins      I was looking at the copyright page not the changelog.
21:12 jcamins      It was added August 6, 2009.
21:13 * jcamins    leaves.
21:13 gmcharlt     wajasu: 0.01 is good enough for testing, judging by the change log for that module
21:13 gmcharlt     or you can justisntall 0.02 from CPAN
21:13 gmcharlt     I suggest that you not get too wrapped up in packaging questions just yet and just test the patch itself
21:14 wajasu       ok.
21:15 wajasu       i amtesting staticfines.pl  and wonder what the difference is with fines.pl   (hourly stuff?)
21:17 wajasu       just confirming what other script may calc based on holidays/events.
21:22 gmcharlt     wajasu: see bug 6858
21:22 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6858 normal, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, CLOSED FIXED, Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing
21:22 * gmcharlt   confesses that I don't immediately have a grasp on the fining model it implements
21:23 wajasu       i have the dbix::class::schema::loader perl package installed. but get that Package::Stash error as i pasted above.  Am I stuck?
21:24 wajasu       i read throughth static fine model code and understand that now.  but not fines.pl.
21:28 gmcharlt     wajasu: how did you install the dependencies?
21:29 gmcharlt     the safest is by installing the koha-deps package from the community APT repo
21:32 wajasu       apt-get install ...     i used koha-common I believe.   I can regenerate  my debian VM  and maybe use koha-deps.
21:32 gmcharlt     wajasu: what version of perl are you using?
21:33 wajasu       5.10.1 in my VM
21:33 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #361: SUCCESS in 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/361/
21:33 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11471: Display the currency for baskets in a basketgroup
21:33 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11789 - Use validation plugin when creating new list
21:33 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11471 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Basket groups display 0 0
21:34 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new list
21:34 gmcharlt     wajasu: and perl -MPackage::Stash -e 'print $Package::Stash::VERSION, "\n"' ?
21:34 wajasu       0.36
21:37 wajasu       I wrote this script that builds a VM a couple of years ago.  I have a preseed.cfg that gets most things, including koha-common.  I have a script at first boot that teaks things (xml parser and such).
21:37 gmcharlt     ok, you ended up with a version of Package::Stash that's not compatible with the version of libnamespace-autoclean-perl that comes with squeeze
21:38 gmcharlt     what modules, if any, had you installed from CPAN?
21:38 wajasu       libtemplate-plugin-javascript-perl
21:38 wajasu       needed for the test
21:39 gmcharlt     hmm, that has no dependencies, and wouldn't have caused Package::Stash to be upgraded from CPAN
21:40 wajasu       i built the VM about week ago.  maybe I am pointing to old koha-common or such.
21:40 pastebot     "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "my preseed.cfg I use with my debian VM builder script" (549 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/137
21:40 gmcharlt     it's not a mixed wheezy/squeeze system, I assume?
21:41 gmcharlt     assuming you have locate installed and up to date, what does "locate Package/Stash.pm" show?
21:41 wajasu       i'm still just working with squeeze.
21:42 wajasu       \/usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Package/Stash.pm
21:42 wajasu       \/usr/share/perl5/Package/Stash.pm
21:42 JWellner     is talljoy around at the moment with a little time??
21:44 gmcharlt     wajasu: OK, you have a CPAN-installation of Package::Stash sneaking in
21:44 wajasu       usr share perl5 is 0.05  :)
21:44 gmcharlt     sudo rm /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/Package/Stash.pm
21:45 wajasu       so i want to get rid of 0.36?
21:46 gmcharlt     yes
21:48 wajasu       that fixed it !   yooo goood.
21:48 wajasu       i must have done some cpan thing for a test one night last week.
21:49 wajasu       i was writing a test for DBIx::Class::Schema  using  Test::DBIx::Class::Schema,  so while pulling in deps...
21:50 gmcharlt     KABOOM
21:52 bag          gmcharlt: you scared barton into weekend mode with that KABOOM
21:52 wajasu       while i have your attention, i wondered if you want support for TTF in syspref instead of koha-conf.xml or what,  aka bug 9854, pertaining to 9856, 9854
21:52 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9854 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Passed QA , Add 'ttf-dejavu*' packages to debian/control file, for label printing (bug 8375)
22:09 gmcharlt     bag: I think I've finally discovered by superpower!
22:09 bag          :D
22:10 wajasu       dejavu?
22:10 gmcharlt     wajasu: not opposed, though a new table woudl have a better shape
22:10 gmcharlt     or I suppose a JSON/YAML blob stored in a syspref that gets it's own UI
22:12 cait         gmcharlt: you hsould use your new superpower on me :)
22:12 cait         so i stop doing things that make my brain hurt
22:13 gmcharlt     worth a try
22:13 gmcharlt     cait: THINK OF WEEKEND STUFF
22:13 gmcharlt     cait: THINK NOT OF WEEK STUFF
22:13 * cait       was expecting a KABOOM!
22:13 gmcharlt     oh, all right ;)
22:13 gmcharlt     KABOOM!
22:13 cait         wah
22:13 cait         bye all :)
22:13 gmcharlt     g'night
22:13 wajasu       if i code a new table generic enough to hold font configs, then you can hook up dropdowns to it.  plus i think we could add an image service using libgd to generate logos, patron/label, icons etc using free unicode fonts to support
22:35 jcamins      Has anyone ever seen a mail truck with a roof made of plywood or fiberboard?
22:38 Dyrcona      jcamins: Not a mail truck specifically, but I have seen trucks with such roofs.
22:39 jcamins      Dyrcona: well, that increases the chances that I did actually see what I thought I saw.
22:40 Dyrcona      I do believe it is usually temporary.
22:41 jcamins      Makes sense. It doesn't really seem like the ideal long-term solution.
22:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1643: SUCCESS in 2 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1643/
22:57 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11471: Display the currency for baskets in a basketgroup
22:57 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11789 - Use validation plugin when creating new list
22:57 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11471 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Basket groups display 0 0
22:57 huginn`      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new list
23:40 embiopterid  Hello.  I'm really new at using this software or library software in general...how do I make koha display LC call numbers when looking up a book?