Time Nick Message 01:13 dbs yay, new 8GB ubuntu-precise VM with only openssh server on top of the base install has 1.4GB left after successfully running "make" -- should be enough :) 01:40 dbs double yay, bibs imported and things a-working 02:06 dcook a-working \o/ 02:06 * dcook pokes Tomcat 02:07 dcook Wish I could say the same :p 02:09 * dcook tries to remember what he was even doing as he waits for Tomcat to reload 03:09 * dbs was doing this: https://github.com/dbs/Koha/tree/bootstrap_rdfa 03:14 dbs hmm, should add libxml2-utils to the koha-deps target so that "prove xt" can pass 03:26 * dbs files bug 11758 03:26 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11758 enhancement, P4, ---, oleonard, NEW , Bootstrap theme needs schema.org RDFa 04:43 Oak kia ora #koha 05:51 Oak hello cait! 05:51 Oak kia ora #koha 05:51 Oak magnuse 05:51 cait hi Oak! 07:12 cait good morning #koha 07:21 magnuse kia ora cait and #koha 07:22 cait kia ora magnuse 07:37 reiveune hello 07:37 wahanui bidet, reiveune 07:38 cait bonjour reiveune 07:38 reiveune bonjour cait :) 07:40 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:40 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 5.3°C (8:40 AM CET on February 14, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 07:40 magnuse @wunder boo 07:40 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 14, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.21 in 989 hPa (Steady). 07:41 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:41 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.3°C (8:40 AM CET on February 14, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 07:51 alex_a bonjour 07:51 wahanui hola, alex_a 08:04 magnuse no build status for 3.14.x on the dashboard? 08:22 Joubu1 hello #koha 08:23 Joubu1 //msg NickServ ghost Joubu j&ksaà lf 08:23 Joubu1 whaou 08:23 Joubu1 clear 08:23 Joubu1 :) 08:27 Joubu ok password changed... 08:27 cait that's a scary password 08:28 Joubu I loved it :-( 09:09 matts To avoid this kind of mistakes, I always /query NickServ instead of /msg'ing him. 09:48 HB Morning koha i'm running koha under ubuntu and missing 2 perl modules ... there was a command to install them (i dont find my notes on this one) annyone knows how 09:58 ashimema if your running on packages you should probably already have all the dependancies.. 09:58 ashimema if not, cpan or cpanm is your friend 10:00 HB was reading about that 10:08 cait HB: which one are missing? some you don't really need 10:10 HB i just try to be complete and get my notes back in order 10:14 HB found it 10:15 HB other question if i want to completely empty an existing koha is there a schortcut or do i better install a new one 10:21 magnuse HB: i usually drop and recreate the db 10:22 HB aha 10:22 magnuse (login to mysql as the root user, then "drop database x", "create database x") 10:22 HB sometimes its simple :) 10:22 magnuse then you will have to run the web installer again 10:22 HB ok 10:23 magnuse so data-wise you start completely from scratch, but you don't have to do another installation 10:23 magnuse ...of the code 10:23 HB well its easy'er to do this so our ldap and stuff stays the same 10:24 HB thx 10:26 HB we planning on doing a second koha library (not a test) for lending out materials (not books) so 11:09 cait hm thought there was a duplicate check in acq at some point 11:09 cait but can't find it 11:09 cait i remember it had 3 columns/options 11:33 sandeepbhavsar hi all 11:36 sandeepbhavsar I am using koha 3.08.10.002 git version. i have created 3-4 libraries under it and now i would like to delete the data of 2 libraries. please guide for the commands to delete the entire data of these 2 libraries 11:39 petter hello #koha 11:44 magnuse hello petter 11:45 petter hei magnus! 11:45 petter så hyggelig:) 11:47 sandeepbhavsar I am using koha 3.08.10.002 git version. i have created 3-4 libraries under it and now i would like to delete the data of 2 libraries. please guide for the commands to delete the entire data of these 2 libraries 11:48 magnuse :-) 11:49 magnuse sandeepbhavsar: there is no easy way to delete all data associated with one library in koha 11:49 magnuse at least not that i know of 11:49 sandeepbhavsar from phpmyadmin 11:50 petter in genral, librarians are not good at getting rid of stuff! 11:50 magnuse hehe, true 11:51 sandeepbhavsar agree 11:51 sandeepbhavsar but is there any solution to delete the data of only 1 library from it 11:53 petter only bibliographic data? 11:53 petter or users, transaction history , and other data as well? 11:53 sandeepbhavsar yes 11:53 sandeepbhavsar only bibliographic data 11:57 petter hm 11:57 petter So the info on whitch library is on the items 11:58 petter in the items table 11:58 petter You can easily delete those 11:58 petter Then you have to delete from biblioitems, those that no longer have any items 11:58 petter I think? 11:58 petter In any case, backup your database first! 11:59 petter I'm not familiar enough with the database schema to give you the queries 11:59 petter but something like: DELETE FROM items WHERE homebranch=<branch-to-delete> OR holdingbranch=<branch-to-delete> 12:04 cait depending ont he catalog there might be recordswithout items - like for analytics 12:05 cait so maybe keep track of the biblionumbers you delete items from 12:05 cait and then delete the records in the list that no longer have items 12:05 cait hi khall :) 12:05 khall mornin cait! 12:05 cait hm thinking about it, if you delete biblio ti should cascade to biblioitem and items 12:06 sandeepbhavsar suppose if i delete the library, will automatically the data associated with it will be deleted. 12:11 cait sandeepbhavsar: to my knowledge - o 12:11 cait no 12:11 cait not all tables have constraints that would ensure that 12:13 Operator hi cait! 12:14 pablito hi everyone 12:15 pablito in cataloging, is there are way for me know if a callnumber I am entering is a duplicate? 12:27 cait pablito: currently not 12:28 cait pablito: i think you could try to write a plugin for checking that 12:28 pablito hmm ok, thanks 12:55 petter Anyone build their own debian-packages lately? 12:56 petter with debian/build_git_snapshot 13:02 kivilahtio have a great weekend everyone! 13:02 kivilahtio read you later! 13:02 francharb good morning #koha 13:02 magnuse hi francharb, bye kivilahtio 13:03 francharb o/ magnuse 13:03 kivilahtio one comes, the other goes... such is life 13:03 kivilahtio exit 13:03 kivilahtio quit 13:03 kivilahtio \quit 13:03 kivilahtio :) 13:03 cait petter: my coworker built 3.12.9 recently, but probably you are wondering about other versions? 13:04 petter cait: I'm building 3.14 with one extra patch 13:04 petter it builds fine 13:04 cait :) 13:04 petter but somehow the perl dependencies doesn't get installed 13:05 petter dpkg -i koha-deps_3.14... fails 13:08 magnuse any error message? 13:10 petter the messages are about 100, like this: dpkg: Kravpdoblem hindrer oppsettet av koha-perldeps 13:10 petter perl-dependency-x missing 13:10 petter I followed the instructions here: 13:10 petter http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Building_Debian_Packages_-_The_Easy_Way 13:11 petter So I'm curious if it works for anyone else 13:11 petter I'm guessing something went wrong in the build 13:13 magnuse tcohen was the last one to edit that page - he might know something 13:14 petter jepp, I'll ask him 13:31 oleonard Hi #koha 13:33 magnuse hiya oleonard 13:34 jcamins petter: I build 3.12 packages frequently. 13:34 jcamins petter: after dpkg -i you have to run apt-get install -f. 13:37 petter jcamins: when I run apt-get install -f, koha-perldeps is uninstalled 13:37 jcamins petter: sounds like you're missing an apt repo. 13:38 petter ah, so I must add the koha repo as well? When installing my own packages? 13:38 jcamins Or you have to host all the extra packages in your own repo. 13:38 jcamins There are a bunch of dependencies on debian.k-c.org. 13:38 petter I see, thanks! 13:42 magnuse ah jcamins++ 13:49 petter Great, I'ts installing now, thanks again :) 13:50 dbs oleonard: hoping my bootstrap RDFa patch fits with your general XSL approach 13:52 dbs magnuse: took a look at the unimarc XSL but wasn't sure where (or if) types like Book / Map / Music get sorted out (varname "leaderMaterialType" in the marc21 xsl). might have just been too late for me though! 13:53 magnuse dbs: i'm the normarc guy, not the unimarc guy ;-) 13:53 oleonard dbs: I have had very little to do with the XSL, so you won't hurt my feelings 13:54 dbs magnuse: ah! haven't looked at that yet, will bug you when I do (if someone else doesn't get there first!) 14:01 magnuse dbs: if yu do get around to it you can bug me as much as you like! 14:02 magnuse bug 10826 already exists, but it's probably not something i will have time for in the near future... 14:02 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10826 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Add schema.org microdata for NORMARC 14:05 oleonard Joubu: Your batch checkout project would be interesting in conjunction with khall's AJAX circ patch: Submit multiple barcodes by default, live-update the table of checkouts. 14:05 magnuse so feel free to hijack it, dbs ;-) 14:06 khall yes, that would be fanstastic oleonard! I wanted the next step in this project to be a fully ajax based checkouts page! 14:07 oleonard We've been talking about it for years. I have a feeling the reason we haven't done it is it's hard :| 14:07 magnuse sounds like that would make the checkout page snappier - that would make Viktor happy! :-) 14:07 khall and that's basically how I was going to accomplish it ( except for the multiple barcodes at once thing ) 14:07 khall yes, I'm expecting it to be a slow process, there is *alot* that does on when checking out items 14:07 dbs magnuse: sure thing! be warned that if I do grab it I'll push RDFa instead of microdata though :) 14:08 magnuse khall, oleonard, Joubu: see also bug 9844 14:08 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add a barcode queue to checkout / return 14:08 magnuse dbs: sounds good to me! 14:09 Joubu khall: I didn't know you are working on that. What is the bug number? 14:09 khall 11703 14:10 oleonard Bug 11703 14:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable 14:10 khall so far what I'm doing is ajaxifying all the tables so we can get circulation.pl to load as quickly as possible to increase responsiveness 14:11 Joubu arg, so bad 14:14 oleonard Joubu: ? 14:14 Joubu I planned to do something like that, but fortunately, I didn't have the time. 14:15 Joubu oleonard: I finished to write my patch yesterday and it is already obsolete... 14:15 oleonard :( 14:16 magnuse obsolete or in need of a rebase? 14:17 Joubu need a big rebase, I think 14:19 Joubu What it shows is we don't communicate enough on developments in progress. 14:20 Joubu Here it's my fault, I didn't check the bug reports before to start 14:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #47 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #47: SUCCESS in 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/47/ 14:22 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update patron image size from 520K to 100K 14:26 Joubu khall: well done! It's a great improvement! 14:26 khall thanks! I'm working on the qa followups right now 14:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #19 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:27 Joubu khall: some licenses are wrong 14:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #19: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/19/ 14:27 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update patron image size from 520K to 100K 14:27 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: tools: update patron image size from 520K to 100K 14:28 khall yep, I'll hvae to fix that 14:32 magnuse khall++ Joubu++ 14:34 cait i know it's a lot to read 14:34 cait but maybe subscribe to bugzilla mailing list 14:34 cait even if you only scan it, you get some idea about what's going on... 14:34 cait and of course, filing bug reports before starting on something also helps :) 14:34 magnuse cait++ 14:35 oleonard git stash... where ambitious dreams go to die... 14:35 cait @quote add oleonard: git stash... where ambitious dreams go to die... 14:35 huginn` cait: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 14:35 cait am i not registered? hm 14:36 cait @quote add oleonard: git stash... where ambitious dreams go to die... 14:36 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded. Quote #297 added. 14:36 cait hah. 14:36 cait @quote get 297 14:37 huginn` cait: Quote #297: "oleonard: git stash... where ambitious dreams go to die..." (added by cait at 02:36 PM, February 14, 2014) 14:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #448 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #448: SUCCESS in 26 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/448/ 14:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update patron image size from 520K to 100K 14:39 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: tools: update patron image size from 520K to 100K 14:47 Joubu magnuse: is that you who added the "optimisation, perf, prof, etc." on the gdoc ? 14:47 Joubu magnuse: context: hackfest14 :) 14:48 magnuse Joubu: yup 14:48 Joubu I just see you are in the "group members". Is it mean you propose to present NYTProf ? 14:48 Joubu or you are searching for someone? 14:49 magnuse searching for someone! 14:49 magnuse i have played with it a tiny bit, but not enough to tell others about it 14:50 Joubu what are you expecting for? 14:50 magnuse dunno - i just think it might be a handy tool to use for improving koha 14:51 magnuse but i'm open to suggestions :-) 14:51 magnuse i added it partly because the two others from oslo public library expressed an interest in it 14:52 Joubu I can try to prepare something if nobody does it (in Frenglish, official language for the Hackfest) 14:52 magnuse lol, that would be great! 14:54 * magnuse calls it a week - have fun #koha! 14:54 * dbs wishes he could contribute his franglais to the hackfest 14:55 * oleonard too 14:57 * dbs was a bit surprised there is no place to store library opening hours in stock koha, had been hoping to teach koha to publish per-library pages of info. Guess we could still put name / address / contact info, but hours seems like a necessary component 14:57 cait what's the german version of frenglish? germanglish? *ponders* 14:57 cait dbs: pianohacker is workingo n that 14:57 dbs frallemanglais? 14:57 cait it's just a bit of a bigger project i guess 14:57 dbs cait++ # thanks for the headsup 15:18 Joubu how can I access to serials/serial-issues.pl? 15:30 Joubu khall: Could you please answer me on bug 11644 comment 7? 15:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11644 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Cannot update fund if total is equal to amount unallocated 15:31 huginn` GERMS!!!! 15:31 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 15:31 cait gr 15:31 khall Joubu: I honestly cannot remember : \ 15:33 cait have a nice weekend all! 15:33 Joubu khall: I cannot reproduce following the test plan 15:34 khall Joubu: that was my best attempt at a test plan. I've seen this bug in production for at least 2 libraries, but I've never been able to reproduce it locally 15:38 Joubu khall: did you seen bug 11675? Maybe it is linked to yours 15:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11675 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Budget amount is not checked if a parent exist 15:38 khall I just so'ed it! 15:46 pablito hi all 15:47 pablito i have script that does this to the database 15:47 pablito UPDATE items SET location = 'REF' WHERE itype = 'REF'; 15:47 pablito the problem is, nothing is affected, what am I doing wrong? 15:50 khall pablito: what are you trying to accomplish? 15:53 Joubu oleonard: bug 11763: the action list is opened above the button, is it wanted? 15:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11763 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Consolidate fund action links into menu 15:54 oleonard Joubu: I thought that would be better because it would be less likely to be displayed below the browser view 15:55 Joubu oleonard: are you sure? There is the DT pager below the table 15:57 Joubu khall: did you see my note on bug 11752 before passing qa on it? 15:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11752 minor, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Passed QA , In OPAC, the serials details display the wrong periodicity 15:58 oleonard Joubu: I don't understand. 15:59 khall Joubu: nope, my bad. Should that bug go to Failed QA? 16:05 Joubu oleonard: Not important, I signed it off :) 16:05 Joubu khall: I don't know, I'm waiting an answer 16:05 Joubu francharb: ? 16:05 oleonard I was no fan of YUI but it was nice that YUI menus detected whether they would appear out of view and change direction accordingly 16:09 pablito Joubu: I am trying to set the Shelving Location for certain book types 16:10 pablito like Reference books in the Reference room while the regular books in General Stacks 16:14 francharb Joubu, ? 16:14 wahanui Joubu, is my FF installation was in french ? 16:15 Joubu wahanui: ... maybe 16:15 wahanui Joubu: sorry... 16:15 Joubu francharb: could you have a look at bug 11752? 16:15 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11752 minor, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, In Discussion , In OPAC, the serials details display the wrong periodicity 16:15 oleonard pablito: Your query looks correct to me. Do you get results for select count(*) from items where itype = 'REF'; ? 16:15 Joubu It is written by Philippe 16:15 francharb Joubu, yes 16:15 francharb Je sais 16:15 francharb ;) 16:17 pablito oleonard: I do, but only a few entries...it should say thousands 16:32 pablito oleonard: ah, i found the problem, i had an SQL before this one 16:36 * cait waves 16:39 pablito hi cait :-) 16:39 cait hi :) 16:39 pablito how's it going? 16:44 pablito have a good night 16:44 pablito gotta go 16:50 cait oleonard++ 17:27 reiveune bye 17:34 gaetan_B bye ! 17:44 slef is there a GBSD planned? 17:44 slef GBSD? 17:44 wahanui well, GBSD is Global Bug Squashing Day - http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-11-15_Global_bug_squashing_day 17:45 oleonard It's been a while slef, maybe you could propose one? 17:45 slef I will, but I don't want to tread on anyone's calendars. 17:46 oleonard Marseille hackfest is coming up, that's like a GBSW 17:46 * oleonard pictures a Global Bug Squashing Wombat 17:47 slef mmm, Wombat... does that cook well? 17:47 jcamins slef: Bob or Irma might know. 17:48 slef Koha Hackfest for March 10 – 14 2014 in Marseilles France. Can anyone add that to "Upcoming Events" on http://koha-community.org/ easily? I've login problems to fix first. 18:03 talljoy any suggestions for migrating a Koha 2.2 to 3.14.3? 18:03 jcamins talljoy: Holy Water. 18:03 talljoy considering flattening it out and pulling out the data to import into 3.14. 18:04 talljoy but could install on 3.0 and upgrade 22 to 30 and then step it up to 3.14 18:04 talljoy but yah. 18:04 talljoy that 2.2 data structure is alien. 18:04 jcamins talljoy: I don't upgrade 2.2 when I have to deal with it. I just export the data and migrate it like its a foreign ILS. 18:05 talljoy that's how i'm leaning. i see the marc in the marc_breeding (who named that?) 18:05 talljoy anything i need to look for in marc_blob_subfield or marc_biblio? 18:06 talljoy i can parse out the stuff in items. looks like category was the old 'itemtype' 18:07 talljoy issues has old and current checkouts. 18:07 talljoy jcamins this was pre zebra, no? 18:07 talljoy which would explain some of the tables i'm seeing 18:08 slef talljoy: I think I've seen rangi suggest the same as jcamins says too. 18:08 slef and yes, 2.2 was pre-zebra 18:08 talljoy that makes sense, i can slough off alot of this then. 18:09 druthb and I, talljoy. Anything prior to about 3.4, I just treat it like a foreign ILS. Extract, mash, and import. Attempting an upgrade is *madness* 18:09 talljoy heh 18:09 * talljoy is feeling crazed today 18:10 * oleonard reminds everyone to stay vigilant lest the MARCs breed 18:10 druthb it's your grey hairs to get doing it, but I don't recommend it. 18:10 talljoy biblioitems contains the itemtype i thinks in 2.2? 18:11 druthb yup 18:11 * talljoy loves a new puzzle 18:12 talljoy oleonard no joke. scary business. like gremlins marc is. 18:12 talljoy keep it away from water. 18:16 talljoy need water brb 18:19 magnuse more marc? 18:19 wahanui http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/01-how-about-no-bear.jpg?w=800 18:21 talljoy you are correct wahanui 18:28 cait oleonard: clean up frenzy? 18:29 oleonard Yeah why not 18:29 cait lots of patches :) 19:24 oleonard When defining tags in MARC tag structures and Authority types should the tag field always be numeric? 19:25 jcamins oleonard: that's probably not a reasonable assumption. 19:25 jcamins @quote get 123 19:25 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 19:25 huginn` jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 19:25 jcamins It's a nice thought, though. 19:26 cait oleonard: it can have letters i think 19:27 oleonard Okay, I saw some unused validation code on the page for requiring numeric input and wondered it it was supposed to be in use 20:35 oleonard When creating a new notice should code, name, and message subject all be required fields? 20:36 cait hmm 20:36 cait i think for slips you don't need a subject 20:36 cait but emails it makes sense 20:37 oleonard ...but no way to know whether one is setting up an email or a slip, so you can't require it 20:38 cait yeah 20:38 cait was wondering if it would hurt to require it for slips 20:38 cait on the other side... an email without a subject still works 20:38 cait and not even email software requires it 20:40 oleonard Seems like it would be doing the world a favor to require it for emails if we could 20:57 cait oleonard: you have a point there 21:29 oleonard Bye #koha have a good weekend 21:41 gml hello. 21:41 gml manage-marc-import.pl doesn't work, in the web interface it doesn't change from "0%", and looking into the code, it got stuck in BackgroundJob::new(), just before the return line. 21:41 gml plz someone give me some light on that. 21:43 gml *would 22:24 gml plz someone would give me some light on that 22:24 gml manage-marc-import.pl doesn't work, in the web interface it doesn't change from "0%", and looking into the code, it got stuck in BackgroundJob::new(), just before the return line. 22:53 jcamins gml: the task may be running as a background job. It can take a while. It could also be that your file is too large. Or that your internet connection is glitchy. Or that you are out of disk space. Or that you are using Internet Explorer. 22:54 jcamins But Friday evening/Saturday morning is not generally a good time to look for help on #koha. You might be better off sending an e-mail, since people might see the e-mail Monday morning when they get back to work. 23:01 gml that's not a good time in my country too, the fridays' "happy hour" and all of this... 23:02 gml I'm testing with a batch with only 1 record 23:04 gml I've not considered a browser approach. I'm using Firefox, but I'd thought the problem could come from the client. 23:06 gml I mean, I 'd not considered that the problem could come from the browser. 23:07 jcamins Yeah, the browser will occasionally randomly decide not to refresh from the AJAX. 23:07 jcamins Going to a different page and then following a link back to the batch often results in the import being finished. 23:09 jcamins Well, the import finishes regardless, but you don't see the finished status without changing pages. 23:09 jcamins Of course, that only applies if you are using Apache. If you're using any sort of fastcgi, all bets are off on the record importing. 23:12 jcamins My rule of thumb is that staging/importing records doesn't work under Plack/fastcgi. 23:14 gml The server is on Apache. 23:14 gml what about BackgroundJob.pm? perhaps do you know why is the execution stopping in there? 23:15 jcamins Nope, sorry. 23:15 jcamins I can't really help troubleshoot much, but out of curiosity, what do you mean by "stopping"? 23:18 gml I put logaction "marks" across the code in BackgroundJob.pm, and in certain point some marks do not appear in log. That's the way I know about execution. 23:19 gml But I'm supposing something about threads or some parallel thing, 23:20 jcamins Oh, yeah, you can't use logging for debugging that code. 23:20 jcamins STDOUT is closed. 23:20 jcamins As is STDERR. 23:20 jcamins Actually, I think *all* filehandles might be closed. 23:22 gml all from STDERR appears in koha-error.log , right? 23:23 jcamins Except when you're working with the import code. In the import code, STDERR is basically just thrown out. 23:30 gml I'll find out the koha support emails 23:30 gml thank you jcamins 23:30 gml and thx to someone for the security release news