Time  Nick          Message
23:56 jcamins       I mean, did what I said make sense, not the way it behaves.
23:55 jcamins       Does that make sense?
23:53 jcamins       Which is why use is weird to me.
23:53 jcamins       But not recompiled.
23:53 jcamins       So that code will get rerun per request.
23:53 jcamins       Basically, starting at line 29, that entire file is wrapped in sub __plack_tools_calendar.pl_SILLYNONSENSETHATMAKESNOSENSETOANYONEOTHERTHANTHECOMPILER { ... }
23:52 jcamins       Hint: there's no such thing as file scope under CGIBin.
23:52 jcamins       Starting at line 29, what scope are declarations?
23:51 jcamins       We'll ignore use statements for now because I still don't understand how they work.
23:50 jcamins       Skip to line 29, after the use statements.
23:50 jcamins       Right, so here's where the way we use Plack makes things confusing.
23:49 pianohacker   I'm trying to excise the given/whens while doing it a bit more nicely than an if/else chain
23:49 rangi         nice
23:49 pianohacker   jcamins: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=8133&attachment=19326 , tools/calendar.pl
23:48 jcamins       Thanks.
23:48 pianohacker   It's all of the holidays code cleaned up and put in a single .pl, let me get you a link
23:48 jcamins       And you are required to picture me jumping up and down and pointing at the code after it's been written on a whiteboard.
23:47 jcamins       I'll point to it for my explanation.
23:47 jcamins       Point out the admin script?
23:47 pianohacker   Even for scalars?
23:47 jcamins       If there's no explicit subroutine in the .pl file, you can treat the *entire file* as a sub.
23:46 jcamins       In that case, don't use our.
23:46 jcamins       pianohacker: in a .pl file?
23:46 pianohacker   jcamins: I'm using a hash of anonymous subs as a replacement for a switch statement, so I don't think that's an option (it's the usual set of code blocks for each 'op' in an admin script)
23:45 rangi         hehe
23:44 pianohacker   haha wat
23:44 bag           well rangi besides the form of life known as pianohacker
23:44 jcamins       pianohacker: if you can avoid using our by putting your variables in an explicit subroutine, please do.
23:43 rangi         speedy little buggers
23:43 rangi         and after this, i can see why
23:43 rangi         bacteria are the single most effective form of life
23:43 bag           about the crazyness (and plack to I guess)
23:42 bag           damn man rangi
23:41 rangi         which messes with scope of variables
23:41 rangi         (this is not how you should really use plack of course this is just a zillion times easier than writing our scripts to work natively under it)
23:40 rangi         is that it wraps every script in a subroutine
23:40 rangi         is the way we are using plack
23:39 rangi         what happens
23:39 rangi         dcook: we are using them as a bit of a hack, the way we are using them isnt really desirable
23:39 wizzyrea      :( that is, in fact, balls.
23:39 rangi         if the pain hasnt subsided by tomorrow i have to go back
23:39 * dcook       thought "ours" weren't desirable
23:39 rangi         wizzyrea: stopped growing, hopefully will start shrinking & hurting less soon
23:38 pianohacker   rangi: Yeah, realized I need to make these ours or local ours
23:38 wizzyrea      oh rangi, is it feeling any better at all?
23:37 pianohacker   amen...
23:37 rangi         ps cellulitis is balls
23:37 rangi         however it may well cause the cgi emulation thingy we are using with plack problems
23:37 rangi         it wont cause plack any
23:26 pianohacker   wait, would that cause Plack problems?
23:26 pianohacker   understandable. Guess I'll do the usual hash of anonymous subs then
23:26 gmcharlt      absent a very strong argument that the syntax sugar is necessary, not just a preference
23:25 gmcharlt      TBH, not unless one of them becomes a core module
23:25 pianohacker   (or one of the similar CPAN modules)
23:24 pianohacker   gmcharlt: feelings about http://search.cpan.org/~mauke/Switch-Plain-0.02/lib/Switch/Plain.pm ?
23:24 pianohacker   absolutely
23:23 gmcharlt      I also view it as an object lession is the risk of trying to be too fancy
23:22 gmcharlt      pianohacker: I sympathize
23:22 dcook         thanks
23:22 gmcharlt      dcook: 5.10
23:22 pianohacker   "I know smartmatch is complicated as hell, but I don't want it, just given/when"
23:22 dcook         What's the minimum version of Perl that Koha supports?
23:22 pianohacker   it would be really nice to have a rock-stupid version for just basic string-comparison-switch
23:21 dcook         ^^
23:21 pianohacker   gmcharlt: curses, yeah, that makes sense, given http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Experimental-Details-on-given-and-when
23:21 gmcharlt      and hope that the next time the pumpkin-crew try to implement a switch statement, it actually works
23:21 * dcook       had a feeling that might be the sitch
23:21 gmcharlt      so, don't use it, remove them if you see them
23:20 gmcharlt      pianohacker: given/when is no good, alas, given the smartmatch mess in Perl
23:20 * dcook       knows that he has used "goto" sometime in the past few months, but cannot remember where...
23:20 pianohacker   probably. gmcharlt: around?
23:20 mtompset      Yes, looks like a very useful thing though.
23:20 * dcook       thinks this is likely a gmcharlt question
23:19 pianohacker   waaaaaaaarnin's
23:19 pianohacker   [Tue Jan 28 15:49:41 2014] calendar.pl: when is experimental at /home/feoh3/p/koha/tools/calendar.pl line 201
23:19 pianohacker   It's pretty awesome, but guess what, mtompset?
23:19 mtompset      Let's avoid that in the base code.
23:18 mtompset      *cringe* "experimental"
23:18 dcook         pianohacker: I didn't even know Perl could do that!
23:18 dcook         http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Switch-Statements
23:18 mtompset      What do you mean given/when? in template toolkit?
23:15 pianohacker   is there a policy on using given/when, given the warnings it triggers?
22:39 tcohen        ah, thanks
22:39 cait          tcohen: i think he might be home - see facebook
22:38 dani          ha, wrong window
22:38 tcohen        around?
22:38 tcohen        rangi aroung?
22:38 huginn        dani: The operation succeeded.
22:38 dani          @later tell meliss last ticket for Bennington cleared up. They can go into support.
22:25 tcohen        vacation auto-gift http://www.hanxo.com/en/productos/parlantes/2_0/blake.html
21:56 * cait        takes the cookies away
21:52 pianohacker   jcamins: I owe you and gmcharlt a beer or something for the number of rock-stupid things you've helped me with
21:52 rhcl          well, ya gotta dip 'em in milk first, then they won't hurt
21:51 * pianohacker cries
21:51 * pianohacker tries to eat cookies, shoves them all in eye
21:50 * cait        sends more cookies
21:50 pianohacker   jesus christ.
21:49 pianohacker   My brain was stuck on "This is how it worked in old bugzilla, but things are different, I can't do it that way now"
21:49 cait          and not the last
21:49 cait          i think you are not the first to ask that question
21:48 pianohacker   thank you both...
21:48 pianohacker   [off] I found it, I do not know why I have been so persistently goddamn oblivious
21:48 cait          also you have a pm from me :P
21:48 pianohacker   cait++
21:48 cait          not using oneof the three links at the end, but the link on the title
21:48 wahanui       cait is probably a bit worried about lumping all code into a single file a sa first step
21:48 pianohacker   cait??
21:48 pianohacker   jcamins++
21:48 cait          pianohacker: or click on the subject/title - that brings you directly to the 'raw' version
21:48 pianohacker   Gaahhhh
21:47 jcamins       No need to click details. Just click the name of the file.
21:47 * cait        nods
21:47 jcamins       And use git stash.
21:47 pianohacker   Oh, you click details then view at the bottom! That's what I was missing. Dammit
21:47 jcamins       For example, `wget -O bug_11096.patch http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=24492`
21:46 jcamins       Just use wget.
21:46 jcamins       pianohacker: same way you always downloaded the patch.
21:46 cait          i don't see a reason why it would not work now
21:46 pianohacker   cait: that's how it used to work, but I think you just have to copy and paste now
21:46 cait          ithink that's how i did it... but it's been a whlie
21:45 cait          wget this link
21:45 cait          click on the patch subject
21:45 pianohacker   I am entirely willing to believe I'm blind.
21:45 pianohacker   And I can't find a way to download a .patch anymore.
21:44 pianohacker   jcamins: I have uncommitted changes, is the other part. It's easy enough to commit, rebase -i, etc, just hoping for a way to do it quickly in situations like this
21:44 cait          that would be 'the old way'
21:44 cait          or you can just download it and do a git am -iu3 file
21:44 wizzyrea      ok byeeee ttyl
21:44 cait          if you want only one specific patch in a series
21:43 * wizzyrea    only answers what is asked
21:43 cait          pianohacker: you can do git bz apply and then choose the i option
21:43 pianohacker   bye, thanks wizzyrea
21:43 wizzyrea      well yea
21:43 wizzyrea      but now I have to go to a meeting.
21:43 jcamins       wizzyrea: right, if you want to do two steps. ;)
21:43 wizzyrea      <.<
21:43 wizzyrea      >.>
21:43 pianohacker   oh! hi, hahahaha
21:43 * wizzyrea    waves
21:43 pianohacker   how do you do that in bugzilla?
21:42 pudding       or just download the thing and apply it
21:42 jcamins       But if wizzyrea wrote the patch but not the others that are being squashed, the patches should be kept separate anyway.
21:42 jcamins       git bz apply 8133.
21:42 jcamins       To squash patches, you use git rebase -i HEAD^^^
21:42 pianohacker   I am squashing it, yes, and what you're describing would work. I just don't know how to download the patch :)
21:41 jcamins       pianohacker: git apply will apply the patch. If it doesn't apply, you're SOL either way.
21:41 pudding       maybe I don't understand what exactly you're trying to do
21:41 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, NEW , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
21:41 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8133 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , hourly loans doesn't know when library closed
21:41 pianohacker   here, context. I'm trying to roll wizzyrea's patch on bug 8133 into the broken-out patch for bug 11211
21:41 pudding       basically you're just squashing it yea?
21:41 tcohen        don't u have to do both actually?
21:40 pianohacker   applying it and rebasing it is more work than just downloading the patch and using git apply, is that really the only way?
21:40 tcohen        git_rebase_interactive++
21:40 mtompset      You can use it to drop an old version of the bug and git bz the newer version. ;)
21:40 pudding       you can drop it's commit message and roll it back with the other stuff with rebase -i
21:40 mtompset      git rebase -i is really cool! :)
21:40 pudding       yea that's fine
21:39 tcohen        mtompset: indeed
21:39 pianohacker   It's a small bugfix patch that's being rolled into one part of a broken-up patch
21:39 jcamins       Lots of sugar and chocolate.
21:39 cait          sounds reasonable to me too
21:39 mtompset      So, you are on vacation?
21:39 mtompset      Greetings, tcohen.
21:39 jcamins       I recommend pudding's approach.
21:39 pudding       naw, just apply it normally
21:38 pianohacker   step 1: How to get the patch? Copy and paste the raw into a file?
21:38 tcohen        hi eythian mtompset
21:38 cait          pudding: why are you pudding? :)
21:38 pudding       dropping it's commit message in the process
21:38 pudding       with the other stuff
21:38 pudding       you can rebase -i and roll it up
21:38 cait          and then a git commit --amend?
21:38 cait          then do a git reset --soft
21:38 pudding       well you do want to commit it
21:38 cait          what about applying it
21:38 cait          hm
21:37 pianohacker   I am failing at what seems like a simple task. I have a patch on a bug that I want to apply, but not commit, as I want to roll it into an existing set of changes
21:34 mtompset      oh well.
21:34 mtompset      koha planning?
21:34 mtompset      C4::Koha planning?
21:30 wahanui       http://i.imgur.com/uGHA6u0.gif
21:30 pianohacker   C4::Koha?
21:30 pianohacker   oh, nothing. Just documenting facts
21:30 mtompset      So, what are you planning for C4::Koha?
21:29 pianohacker   you heard me
21:29 wahanui       pianohacker: excuse me?
21:29 pianohacker   wahanui ain't that smart
21:29 mtompset      planning C4::Koha?
21:27 wahanui       OK, pianohacker.
21:27 pianohacker   wahanui: C4::Koha is <reply>http://i.imgur.com/uGHA6u0.gif
21:26 pianohacker   hahaha nice
21:24 wahanui       okay, eythian.
21:24 eythian       no wahanui, planning is <reply>http://imgur.com/WGDg5KB
21:24 wahanui       ...but planning is still going on, but there are lots of people signed up so it will happen!...
21:24 eythian       wahanui: planning is <reply>http://imgur.com/WGDg5KB
21:23 rhcl          hihi
21:23 cait          hi eythian
21:17 eythian       hi
21:02 mtompset      serves me right for trying to install a beta driver while using a VM with 3D whatever it was enabled.
21:01 pianohacker   the whole making your hardware work seems to be an inconvenient bug from their perspective
21:01 pianohacker   that's what drivers do
20:58 mtompset      And that driver went kaboom.
20:52 tcohen        s
20:52 tcohen        basically because they didn't have the right count of bib
20:50 tcohen        cait, I saw those errors in a previous patch series
20:29 mtompset      REBOOT!
20:27 oleonard      Bye #koha
20:04 cait          tcohen: http://paste.koha-community.org/99
20:04 mtompset      Ah, redirecting stderr and stdout to a file. :)
19:59 cait          let's see if it works
19:59 cait          search.t takes a bit
19:58 cait          thx :)
19:58 tcohen        2> file 1>&2
19:57 cait          trying to write the results to a file
19:57 cait          not sure what it's doing
19:57 cait          hm
19:56 tcohen        I think having the full log might help. yes
19:56 tcohen        i can tell I generated Squeeze and Ubuntu 12.04 VM to run the tests on, which did successfuly
19:55 tcohen        ok
19:53 cait          i will give you the full output of the tests
19:53 cait          tcohen: let's try something
19:52 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Koha cannot retrieve big records from Zebra
19:52 cait          is($results_hashref->{biblioserver}->{hits}, 1, "can do a search that retrieves an over-large bib record (bug 11096)");
19:52 cait          even the first on line 831
19:51 cait          all those tests fail
19:51 cait          i copied only the last error
19:51 cait          ah
19:51 cait          hm
19:48 cait          i have you test records in my database, should that make a difference?
19:48 cait          i think git should show it?
19:48 cait          hm i don't think so
19:47 tcohen        cait, is it possible that you have a modified version of t/db_dependent/data/marc21/zebraexport/large_biblio_
19:42 tcohen        yeah, have the same options actually
19:41 pianohacker   sorry about that, the search prefs are a hot mess...
19:41 cait          looks pretty standard
19:41 cait          don't include, don't use, automatically, try, try, enable, don't force, don't include, not using, do not try
19:40 cait          when you look at the search prefs:
19:40 tcohen        I mean, I tried lots of combinations with no luck
19:39 cait          hm
19:39 tcohen        with a default setup I cannot reproduce it
19:39 tcohen        cait: it must be some scenario the tests don't explicitly cover (sysprefs I guess)
19:36 cait          tcohen: maybe some more clues: http://paste.koha-community.org/98
19:34 cait          hmmmm
19:34 pianohacker   good excuse for a change of scenery
19:34 pianohacker   heh, some numbnut just bumped the alarm in the kitche
19:33 cait          tcohen: mostly to see if it the database... or maybe something else?
19:30 tcohen        good luck pianohacker !!!
19:30 pianohacker   dammit fire alarm brb
19:30 tcohen        the failing tests are MARC21 tests
19:30 cait          tcohen: i wanted to try it on the unimarc databaes first
19:29 mtompset      (with respect to holiday)
19:29 mtompset      pianohacker: Why are there so many cursed delete_{blah} functions in the old code?!
19:29 tcohen        cait: remebeer to give me your dev DB to try to reproduce your problem
19:07 pianohacker   just trying to give you an idea of why I went all scorched-earth
19:07 cait          too risky
19:07 pianohacker   cait: take a look at C4::Calendar::delete_holiday
18:56 huginn        mtompset: blou was last seen in #koha 5 days, 23 hours, 43 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <blou> I'll explore that.  Thanks a LOT!
18:56 mtompset      @seen blou
18:56 huginn        mtompset: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
18:56 mtompset      @see blou
18:56 mtompset      blou? *ping*
18:34 pianohacker   cait: thanks. trying to make the best out of something that would have had to have been made as a patch series from the beginning
18:33 tcohen        awesome
18:32 cait          how is vacation? :)
18:32 cait          hi tcohen
18:32 cait          don't take me serious,just not having the best week
18:32 tcohen        hi cait
18:31 cait          i will leave you to it... and ask someone else to qa :P
18:31 pianohacker   cait: It would be possible, but a lot of work. I'm submitting code that is suboptimal, but the actual 8133 patch will true it up, and it does at least work reasonably well
18:30 mtompset      http://youtu.be/I0i-whGHf-Y
18:30 cait          why not fix the backend step by step to support the current feature set and enhance on that?
18:28 pianohacker   (kept the template, praise ye oleonard, but the backend was a mess)
18:27 pianohacker   At some point in making the hourly loans code, I just tossed the entire diseased mess of the old admin page out the window, so I'm trying not to undo too much of my own work in the process of splitting up the patch
18:27 cait          why?
18:26 cait          oh
18:26 pianohacker   cait: Well, partially. :) I'm making C4::Calendar have an API that matches the new calendar setup but interacts with the old DB layout, so there's some ugly emulation code.
18:25 cait          or eyes...?
18:25 cait          pianohacker: was that for qa ears?
18:25 tcohen        hi there!
18:24 pianohacker   Nobody was supposed to know about the monads! :(
18:24 jcamins       pianohacker: "WARNING: may cause irrational and highly inappropriate urges regarding monads."
18:22 pianohacker   At this point, I'm submitting an entire module full of code that has to be marked "Warning: This is only for temporary compatibility, and is not suitable for small children. Side effects may include existential angst and a perverse urge to learn Haskell."
18:21 pianohacker   yay :)
18:21 * cait        sends cookies
18:21 pianohacker   pfft
18:21 cait          aaaaah
18:20 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8133 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , hourly loans doesn't know when library closed
18:20 wahanui       i guess bug 8133 is what started libsysguy's quest
18:20 cait          bug 8133
18:20 mtompset      That's worse than my 7567.
18:20 mtompset      YIKES!
18:20 pianohacker   8133 is the bane of my existence
18:20 mtompset      ah, okay.
18:19 pianohacker   mtompset: not at the moment, sorry. I'm being snarky because I'm in the middle of breaking up a really thorny patch
18:19 mtompset      pianohacker: want a small patch to sign off on? :)
18:16 pianohacker   logical break points? so one patch per word?
18:16 mtompset      that sort of thing.
18:16 mtompset      one patch per logical break point: bootstrap changes, prog changes, program changes.
18:15 mtompset      NO!
18:15 pianohacker   one patch per line of code?
18:14 * pianohacker makes note to break up future patches for ease of testing
18:10 mtompset      Also depressing... I'm working hard at sign offs, and yet the number of things needing signoffs stays relatively constant.
18:09 mtompset      i fear I'll drop back to #5 shortly.
18:09 mtompset      Doing pretty good. #3 in sign offs for January. :)
18:09 mtompset      NOOOO! Don't forget me when I'm gone. :P
18:08 wahanui       mtompset: I forgot you
18:08 mtompset      wahanui: forget you
18:08 wahanui       mtompset: excuse me?
18:08 mtompset      wahanui: forgot you
18:08 wahanui       you is, like, smart
18:08 pianohacker   you?
18:08 pianohacker   decent, busy as hell with school but decent
18:07 mtompset      How are you?
18:07 mtompset      yo yo yo pianohacker? ;)
18:07 pianohacker   yo
17:53 huginn        mtompset: msaby was last seen in #koha 14 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, 14 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <msaby> cait:so if I understant, if  these fields are not harmful, better not touching it...
17:53 mtompset      @seen msaby
17:53 oleonard      msaby I think?
17:52 mtompset      is matts_away the same person, oleonard?
17:51 mtompset      ^thing^think^
17:51 mtompset      Seeing prog/en also makes me thing OPAC, even when it is intranet-tmpl.
17:50 mtompset      You're right.
17:50 mtompset      I must be in a daze.
17:50 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11027 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Signed Off , add a column for basketgroups in late orders table
17:50 oleonard      If you're talking about the patch for Bug 11027 mtompset that's not mine
17:13 mtompset      AH! Must close with the basket group.
17:11 mtompset      ARG! I can't reproduce the magical incantation.
17:05 mtompset      EEEEEW! I just looked at it without the patch. Thank you, oleonard! That's a massive improvement.
17:01 mtompset      Now to reproduce them, so I can make a fuller TEST PLAN.
17:01 mtompset      I figured out the magical incantations to do it.
17:00 mtompset      I finally tested it, oleonard.
17:00 mtompset      YAY!
16:55 mtompset      BTW, it seems weird to give staff access and acquisition access, but then log in and get told I can't access that page.
16:53 mtompset      okay... *whew* wrong branch.
16:51 reiveune      bye
16:50 mtompset      HMMM?! What do you mean there's no late orders?!
16:29 mtompset      (i.e. Needs Signoff)
16:29 mtompset      blou: -- you forgot to change the bug status.
16:16 cait          i had problems with search.t
16:16 wahanui       rumour has it maybe is a momentaneous error
16:16 cait          maybe?
16:16 cait          oleonard: hm looks like a new dependency
16:07 oleonard      Cannot detect source of 't'! at /usr/share/perl/5.14/TAP/Parser/IteratorFactory.pm line 263
16:07 mtompset      Yes.
16:06 oleonard      For a more verbose error message?
16:06 mtompset      I usually include -v :)
16:06 oleonard      prove t xt
16:06 cait          which test oleonard? because i had problems too recently
16:03 oleonard      Did something change in the way Koha does tests? New dependency? I'm getting errors from running the prove command
16:02 mtompset      YAY! I got data.
16:00 cait          because by default it will not look for a order orderd today.. that would not be really late :) but i think you can make it work with 0 days or something iirc
15:59 cait          you order it, you close the basket.... you adjust the filters on late orders so it matches.
15:59 oleonard      mtompset: I hope you're not saying that someone is being secretive about how acquisitions works
15:58 cait          a late order is something you didn't get...
15:58 cait          well that won't work
15:58 mtompset      should I close BEFORE received?
15:58 mtompset      oh, I closed after received.
15:58 mtompset      closed and still nothing.
15:56 cait          only closed orders count as ordered - else they are still open for adding new order lines
15:56 mtompset      if I don't know it, it must be mystically acquired knowledge.
15:56 cait          yes you need to lcose it
15:56 oleonard      Hunh? Secretive?
15:56 mtompset      This is the silly "secretive library stuff" thing I was saying I didn't want. :P
15:55 mtompset      I received it today... and... still nothing.
15:54 mtompset      It isn't in a basket group.
15:54 mtompset      It isn't closed.
15:53 mtompset      't been received.
15:53 mtompset      It hasn
15:53 mtompset      I found an entry with a date of 2012-06-21
15:53 mtompset      I went into acquisitions, and did a search for a vendor.
15:52 oleonard      mtompset: You would need some existing orders, yes.
15:52 mtompset      still nothing. Perhaps I should attempt placing an order?
15:51 cait          and add 0 for the days since or something like that
15:51 cait          try unsetting the date filter
15:51 oleonard      cait++
15:51 cait          if i am around
15:50 cait          oleonard: i can help mst of the time
15:50 oleonard      I think it has to do with "estimated delivery date?"
15:50 oleonard      mtompset: I share your frustration with trying to figure out how to trigger some of these acquisitions pages. Sometimes it requires tracking down the SQL that generates the page contents
15:47 mtompset      So, oleonard (or anyone) how do I trigger something that will show up in late orders?
15:44 mtompset      Well, you have to get blaming the president in there somewhere. ;)
15:42 oleonard      My favorite part of that image is Florida
15:41 mtompset      Nice link, oleonard. :)
15:39 mtompset      I can get to the late order screen, but without actual data to show, it's pointless.
15:39 mtompset      oleonard: I'd like to test that patch, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to trigger a late order.
15:38 * mtompset    blames the pollution coming up the jet stream from the USA. :P
15:38 druthb        oleonard++
15:37 oleonard      https://twitter.com/vmstan/status/427989653723955200/photo/1
15:31 huginn        oleonard: The current temperature in Yangyang Airport, North Korea is 3.0°C (12:00 AM KST on January 29, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 24%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
15:31 oleonard      @wunder Pyonggang, North Korea
15:26 rhcl          SY
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15:26 rhcl          @wunder FNJ
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15:25 rhcl          @wunder pyongyang dprk
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15:23 rhcl          @wunder pyongyang North Korea
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15:23 rhcl          @wunder pyongyang
15:18 * druthb      blames mtompset
15:18 oleonard      Dear Canada: Please stop sending weather. Thanks.
15:11 huginn        mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -15.1°C (10:11 AM EST on January 28, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -20.0°C. Windchill: -20.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
15:11 mtompset      @wunder l7e 5y5
14:56 huginn        druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 0.0°C (8:56 AM CST on January 28, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).  Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon CST today... 
14:56 druthb        @wunder 77098
14:56 huginn        rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -15.4°C (8:55 AM CST on January 28, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Rising).
14:56 rhcl          @wunder 64507
14:46 druthb        o/
13:12 paxed         also, just noticed that in tab 0 the subfield letter is not bold, but in the other tabs it is in bold.
13:10 oleonard      Okay thanks
13:08 paxed         MARCdetail.pl
13:07 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Impossible to style MARC display via CSS
13:07 oleonard      What page does Bug 11624 refer to?
13:07 paxed         yes?
13:07 oleonard      paxed here?
12:52 kivilahtio    so very safe
12:51 petter        yea, they can be a bit tense in that region!
12:50 kivilahtio    and people had assault rifles ;)
12:50 kivilahtio    + food was good
12:50 kivilahtio    so yeah ! :)
12:50 kivilahtio    not a drop of rain
12:50 wahanui       rumour has it perfect is the enemy of good
12:50 petter        perfect!
12:50 kivilahtio    29 deg max, around 25 deg
12:49 petter        sunny
12:49 petter        aha, cool
12:49 kivilahtio    Israel
12:49 kivilahtio    Eilat
12:49 kivilahtio    visited Petra, Dead Sea, Masada. Lots of stuff
12:49 petter        where did you go?
12:49 petter        wow
12:49 kivilahtio    we rode with Camels in the desert night
12:49 petter        great
12:49 kivilahtio    awsome!
12:49 petter        How was your vacation,  olli?
12:49 kivilahtio    nice to hear :)
12:49 petter        hard to say
12:49 petter        maybe more less than more?
12:49 petter        its good, more or less
12:49 kivilahtio    how is life?
12:48 kivilahtio    how is life
12:48 oleonard      Hi petter
12:48 kivilahtio    hi petter!
12:48 petter        hi folks!
12:44 oleonard      I guess we're lucky there's no wind at the moment.
12:43 huginn        oleonard: The current temperature in Windy Ridge, Athens, Ohio is -25.0°C (7:43 AM EST on January 28, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -33.0°C. Windchill: -25.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Rising).  Wind chill warning in effect until 1 PM EST this afternoon... 
12:43 oleonard      @wunder 45701
12:35 cait          with different sizes, i just can't remember how that works
12:35 cait          there is a special lable that is 2 labels
12:35 cait          kivilahtio: hm actually there was functionality for that back in the old module
12:25 Oak           later guys
12:25 Oak           kivilahtio++
12:16 kivilahtio    + Koha has already tons of great code to hack this functionality from :)
12:15 kivilahtio    it is a really simple task and I can just add a new custom module to facilitate these label printings
12:15 kivilahtio    but I think I will make a local modification to solve this issue
12:15 kivilahtio    so this is not doable with the Koha's lable creator
12:14 kivilahtio    2x6 lables + 1x12 spine lables in one A4 sticker paper
12:14 kivilahtio    we have two different label sizes on one paper
12:14 kivilahtio    batches
12:14 cait          it depends if you want to print batches or single labels
12:13 cait          the other label print is pdf, so i think css is not possible there
12:13 cait          quick spine label pritn = html
12:12 cait          not sure for the labels
12:12 cait          i think for the quick editor yes
12:11 kivilahtio    I was wondering if we could style the labels with css?
12:11 kivilahtio    Wow, the Koha's built in label creator looks pretty great!
10:20 kivilahtio    the jQuery libraries are loaded in the end of the HTML document
10:20 kivilahtio    ok I got it
10:08 kivilahtio    not even jQuery(document).ready() is defined
10:08 kivilahtio    my script file is below the jQuery-files in the html source
10:08 kivilahtio    thus   $(document).ready(function() {      THROWS   Uncaught ReferenceError: $ is not defined
10:07 kivilahtio    If I directly include <script type="javascript" src="..."> a javascript file in the bootstrap -> opac-detail.tt, I can't access jQuery functions? Everybody else seems to be using .inc files to include .js files?
09:34 kivilahtio    was there a super easyway of calling the system preferences directly from the .tt files?
09:28 kivilahtio    can I just add a componentParts.js file to bootstrap/js/ and include it in the template if systempreference is ok
09:27 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Failed QA , Show the parent record's component parts in the detailed views.
09:27 kivilahtio    I am modifyin the opac-detail.tt for the bootstrap theme regarding bug 11175. I need a small script of javascript to set the height of a container to match the height of a neighbouring container
09:25 kivilahtio    hmm separate files..
09:24 kivilahtio    is there a general guide for that?
09:23 kivilahtio    In the bootstrap theme where do I put my feature dependent javascript files?
09:21 Oak           Guten morgen cait
09:20 Oak           kia ora #koha
08:26 sophie_m      hi #koha
08:24 nlegrand      Hey !
07:40 reiveune      hello
07:13 cait          time to go to work - bbl
06:51 rangi         which sends mail, using whatever mta you have listening on port 25 (or even other ports if you want to configure it)
06:51 rangi         http://search.cpan.org/~mivkovic/Mail-Sendmail-0.79/Sendmail.pm#sendmail%28%29 is called
06:49 rangi         its not
06:43 mtompset      Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
06:42 mtompset      I think I best call it a night.
06:42 mtompset      I do find it yucky that sendmail is called directly.
06:41 mtompset      Yep... busted email configuration in this VM...
06:32 mtompset      I bet my mailing configuration is busted or something.
06:32 mtompset      oh joys... "Problem sending the list"
06:30 cait          the difference is in sending it from staff or from opac
06:30 cait          it shouldn't matter
06:30 mtompset      so private list or public list, cait, for 5010?
06:29 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11623 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Errors with upgrade from 3.00.00.070 to 3.14.02.000
06:29 mtompset      got distracted by bug 11623 -- someone complaining that upgrading from 3.0.x to 3.14.x didn't work.
06:22 cait          but that has happened..
06:22 cait          would be kind of embarassing if it didn't
06:22 mtompset      passes qa tool. :)
06:21 mtompset      upgrade: system preference created. :)
06:19 mtompset      fresh install: system preference created. :)
06:16 mtompset      BTW, you have some whitespace errors in the merging.
06:15 mtompset      one in intranet and one in opac, right?
06:13 dcook         laterz
06:13 dcook         night for me
06:11 cait          and be aware we have 2 sendbasket
06:11 cait          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=23457
06:10 cait          might be a conflict
06:10 cait          i only adda lock in sendbasket
06:10 cait          if you look at te patches
06:10 cait          hm not really
06:09 mtompset      yours removes that block.
06:09 mtompset      the first one adds a block.
06:09 mtompset      sendbasket.pl
06:09 cait          hm no they should not
06:09 * mtompset    cringes.
06:08 mtompset      oh... wait... your patches require the previous one.
06:05 cait          but yeah, I think it's either or
06:04 cait          i was proposing an alternate solution
06:04 cait          if you think the last 2 are better obsolte the first :)
06:04 mtompset      So, cait. If I was going to look at trying to sign off 5010, should I attempt the first one, or the last two? And if the last two, perhaps I should obsolete the first one?
06:02 mtompset      I don't see any reason currently for an OPAC link going to staff.
06:01 mtompset      Yes, but a system preference between staff to OPAC seems like a reasonable thing.
05:59 dcook         Yeah, it's one of those things that can't really have a perfect solution
05:59 mtompset      YIKES! Bad grammer and spelting, mesa need to sleep.
05:59 dcook         Seems like it :p
05:59 mtompset      Don't worry, dcook. You're name was only being taken in vain for horrific reasons. ;)
05:58 dcook         Hmm?
05:55 cait          probably true
05:54 mtompset      With the access to system preferences from within the Template, there is no need to build them in the .pl
05:54 mtompset      actually, cait....
05:54 cait          sometimes it seems quite too hard to get small things like that right
05:53 cait          I am hoping maybe dcook makes i ta bit better
05:53 cait          it seemed a little better than hardcoding http
05:53 cait          there might still be something wrong with the patches... :)
05:53 mtompset      Not the happiest way of doing it, but a reasonably good one.
05:53 mtompset      Okay, the system preference makes good sense now.
05:52 cait          so i did that
05:52 cait          gmcharlt advised on the sys pref as a possible solution
05:52 cait          i tried to make it work a bit better, not claiming on having the perfect solution
05:52 mtompset      yes, yes it is.
05:52 cait          this whole url topic is a bit messy
05:52 cait          yeah, then they wouldn't need to run https in OPAC really
05:51 cait          i think it might be that people run staff in https and opac not... although they shouldn't
05:51 mtompset      case of no logins in OPAC?
05:51 cait          not really
05:51 mtompset      but it would seem strange to have difference between staff and OPAC.
05:51 mtompset      DOH! You're right.
05:50 cait          it won't work from the intranet if you try to figure out what to use for the OPAC link
05:50 mtompset      doesn't something like that work?
05:50 mtompset      CGI->https() ? "https://" : "http://"
05:50 cait          because there i sno way to determine that from the intranet for the OPAC
05:49 cait          yes
05:49 mtompset      ... just a second let me find that...
05:49 mtompset      You actually create a system preference for https vs. http.
05:49 cait          yes?
05:49 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Incomplete links in carts and lists sent from the staff client
05:49 mtompset      cait: I was wondering about bug 5010
05:45 huginn        mtompset: The operation succeeded.
05:45 mtompset      @later tell tcohen 10580 -- I was thinking perhaps the fixing the indentation could be a separate commit? (http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Refactoring_code)
05:44 cait          morning mtompset
05:44 mtompset      Greetings, cait.
05:01 brendan_      heya
05:01 mtompset      Greetings, brendan_.
05:00 brendan_      evening
04:59 mtompset      all zeros.
04:59 mtompset      Patron -> person who I know has something checked out -> choose the biblio checked out -> items tab -> view checkout history
04:58 mtompset      Why are my checked out items not listed?!
04:58 mtompset      Hmmm...
03:44 mtompset      There we go. ;)
03:44 mtompset      oh shut it?
03:43 wahanui       http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=RB-SHUTUP-MUG&Category_Code=DRINKWARE
03:43 mtompset      shut up?
03:43 wahanui       http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=RB-SHUTUP-MUG&Category_Code=DRINKWARE
03:43 mtompset      shut up, wahanui.
03:43 mtompset      So when will wahanui point to that link?
03:39 mtompset      I've seen that episode before.
03:39 * mtompset    laughs.
03:39 wahanui       somebody said internet was http://youtu.be/iDbyYGrswtg
03:39 eythian       internet
03:39 mtompset      Where do you find this stuff, eythian?
03:38 wahanui       OK, eythian.
03:38 eythian       wahanui: shut up is <reply>http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=RB-SHUTUP-MUG&Category_Code=DRINKWARE
03:29 mtompset      you just added 00?!
03:29 dcook         :)
03:29 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11465 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Show counts and amounts on OPAC your summary tabs
03:28 dcook         bug 11465
03:28 dcook         11465
03:28 dcook         Yep, I got one, just a moment.
03:28 pudding       naw, it's about the display of the fine descriptions.
03:28 wahanui       mtompset is, like, catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry
03:28 dcook         hey mtompset
03:23 mtompset      secretive librarian knowledge. :P
03:22 pudding       i have one out to do with fines.
03:21 pudding       oh probably.
03:21 mtompset      anyone have a bug they'd like signed off that doesn't require secretive librarian knowledge? ;)
03:21 * mtompset    frowns, "Just when I was hoping to sign off 2 things. They both have problems."
03:19 * mtompset    gets the shotgun to protect his brain from zombies. :P
03:19 pudding       mmm pudding brain.
03:19 mtompset      as in "my brain is pudding".
03:18 pudding       it's tasty and doesn't have to know stuff.
03:18 mtompset      Greetings, dcook.
03:18 mtompset      because pudding is nice?
03:15 dcook         pudding?
02:49 mtompset      Glad you got what you needed working. :)
02:49 mtompset      No problem.
02:48 schnydszch    mtompset, sorry and thanks. cheers! :)
02:47 mtompset      This isn't twitter.
02:47 mtompset      You are putting @ in front.
02:47 huginn        schnydszch: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
02:47 schnydszch    @huginn just as soon as RDA is ready?
02:47 mtompset      schnydszch: I wasn't talking about WHO. I was talking about type: MARCXML, MARC Unicode, MARc-8, BIBTEX, etc.
02:46 schnydszch    cheers!
02:46 huginn        schnydszch: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
02:46 schnydszch    @mtompset, yep, i exported as admin. thanks
02:40 dcook         Sure thing. See you tomorrow, ebegin :)
02:36 huginn        mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -16.6°C (9:36 PM EST on January 27, 2014). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -22.0°C. Windchill: -23.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
02:36 mtompset      @wunder l7e 5y5
02:36 ebegin        see you tomorrow !
02:36 huginn        ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -16.0°C (9:00 PM EST on January 27, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -22.0°C. Windchill: -24.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
02:36 ebegin        @wunder montreal quebec
02:35 ebegin        just want to say hi ;-)
02:34 ebegin        Hi guys
02:31 dcook         hey, ebegin :)
02:31 mtompset      Greetings, ebegin.
02:27 ebegin        hey dcook :-)
02:26 mtompset      I'm talking about the OPAC 'Save Record' drop down.
02:26 mtompset      schnydszch: Only certain types of exports include the 999$c and $d.
01:28 schnydszch    thanks. it was just an oversight :)
01:26 rangi         seems to be working
01:26 rangi         999    _c100 _d100
01:26 rangi         i just tested on 3.14.02
01:26 schnydszch    i'll try again
01:25 wizzyrea      nm then
01:25 eythian       _d1
01:25 eythian       999    _c1
01:25 eythian       it works already
01:25 eythian       you don't
01:24 rangi         works for me
01:24 wizzyrea      afaik there is no syspref to say "export koha-internal fields"
01:24 wizzyrea      I suspect you'd have to modify the export function to get this.
01:23 schnydszch    trying to find if it's system preference, that it will include 999$c and $d in export
01:23 schnydszch    I'm in 3.14
01:22 eythian       Is what?
01:22 schnydszch    i'm trying to find it
01:22 schnydszch    is it in system preference?
01:21 schnydszch    yep
01:20 eythian       I'd expect it to be in 999$c and $d
01:17 schnydszch    when I export right now, biblionumber is excluded
01:17 schnydszch    Hello koha community! I can't seem find it, how do I export holdings that includes biblionumber
01:03 wizzyrea      those two behaviours are controlled by syspref.
01:03 wizzyrea      sometimes marking things lost causes the book to come off of the borrower's account
01:03 wizzyrea      sometimes marking them lost causes the cost of the item to be charged
01:03 wizzyrea      lost things don't usually accrue daily fines
01:03 wizzyrea      that depends on your settings, but probably