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23:45 pianohacker quick ways to mess with your vim productivity, part 15: move your escape key
23:29 kathryn_ doot de doo...
23:29 kathryn_ accidetal fish slap!
23:29 kathryn_ OOOOOPPPPPSSSS!
23:25 wizzyrea i'm shocked. SHOCKED.
23:24 eythian there's two of her, split personality can have strange effects.
23:23 * wizzyrea did not expect kathryn_ to be the wielder of the fishbot
23:22 * dcook wonders if the exterior of a fishbot is the bot part or the fish part...
23:21 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0Â°C (12:00 PM NZDT on January 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
23:20 eythian @wunder nzwn
23:20 * kathryn_ slaps eythian around a bit with a large fishbot
23:11 ibeardslee http://ask.slashdot.org/story/14/01/23/1842210/ask-slashdot-how-to-reimagine-a-library
22:37 eythian mtompset: it's almost entirely small style things rather than actual problems.
22:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11592 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , opac scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility
22:35 eythian mtompset: you're up on bug 11592 :)
22:22 cait good night all
22:11 wizzyrea have fun
22:11 rhcl good luck
22:09 jcamins I'll go with the black vest purple bowtie, I think.
22:09 jcamins Well, it's time to go, happy or not.
22:08 wizzyrea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVZUVeMtYXc
22:08 * jcamins changes cufflinks.
22:05 jcamins If I went in white face no one would think it out of place if I started singing "Wilcommen bienvenue."
22:05 jcamins lol
22:04 rhcl And make sure your shirt is monogrammed
22:04 rhcl You'll definitely need some gold cufflinks
22:04 wizzyrea that could probably actually work.
22:03 wizzyrea pretend you're james bond?
22:03 wizzyrea put on your debonair face?
22:03 jcamins There must be a way to not look like an idiot.
22:03 wizzyrea omg, lol.
22:03 mtompset Just don't waddle, or you'll look like a penguin. :P
22:03 eythian :)
22:03 jcamins You anticipated me.
22:03 jcamins eythian: well done.
22:02 wizzyrea ...
22:02 eythian you'll look like a waiter now
22:02 jcamins And I'm wearing a white shirt, so I should be fine.
22:01 jcamins I found a black bowtie!
22:01 eythian Always.
21:57 mtompset The red shirts always die, jcamins.
21:57 jcamins Or a red bowtie, I suppose.
21:57 jcamins I wish I could find a black bowtie so I could wear a red vest.
21:56 mtompset As long as it isn't a RED vest, you're okay. ;)
21:56 jcamins I look like a security guard in a TV drama.
21:47 mtompset Well, it's not that bad.
21:47 mtompset read the code and weep. ;)
21:47 eythian excellent
21:47 mtompset As far as I know.
21:47 wahanui rhcl: bugger all, i dunno
21:47 rhcl wahanui: do you know Emma the Catbot?
21:47 eythian mtompset: so, now everything going out the OPAC is run through a nice central filter?
21:46 eythian mtompset: ah yeah, that's another good place to catch.
21:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10907: (follow-up) fix typo... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a6aed95d3de225cef5701d92521ea166f679cea>
21:46 wahanui okay, eythian.
21:46 eythian no wahanui, be human is <reply>\I got 98% in \my last Turing test!
21:46 mtompset DOH!
21:46 mtompset eythian: I just discovered the exporting save record piece this morning.
21:46 eythian doh
21:46 wahanui I got 98% in eythian's last Turing test!
21:46 eythian wahanui: be human
21:45 eythian rhcl: wahanui is practicing
21:45 rhcl that's quasi-sentient
21:45 rhcl Whoa
21:45 wahanui hello cait are you here?
21:45 eythian hello cait
21:44 eythian mtompset: no, it's supposed to be ironic. It means Hawaiian shirts.
21:44 jcamins Also, why don't I practice tying bowties more often?
21:44 eythian mtompset: excellent :)
21:44 mtompset Call me a literalist, but doesn't blacktie mean BLACK tie?
21:44 jcamins Vitally important question! If you are wearing a colored vest to a blacktie event, does your bowtie have to be the same color?
21:44 * cait waves at eythian
21:43 mtompset I think it's done, eythian.
21:43 wahanui hola, eythian
21:43 eythian hi
21:42 cait probably more interesting than ours here :)
21:42 wizzyrea there isn't the "saucy librarian" stereotype for nothin, you know.
21:41 mtompset Acoholic Librarians Anonymous?
21:41 wizzyrea dunno, librarians can be pretty crazy...
21:41 gmcharlt no, ALA conferences are not /that/ interesting!
21:41 cait :)
21:41 gmcharlt heh
21:41 wizzyrea well between the wet noodle lashings, the cowering, and being tied up at ALA, I see how your mind could go there.
21:40 cait might be time to sleep :)
21:40 cait hm i think i took that too literally for a moment
21:40 cait ok :)
21:40 * gmcharlt will be tied up in ALA
21:40 gmcharlt ah -- let's talk next Tuesday
21:39 * gmcharlt looks
21:39 cait did you see my pm?
21:39 gmcharlt ;)
21:39 gmcharlt right, that was it!
21:39 gmcharlt oh...
21:39 cait i think you just did it so I don't feel so bad about breaking the sorting ;)
21:38 cait hehe
21:38 * gmcharlt cowers
21:38 cait oh you broke my feature!
21:38 huginn gmcharlt: downloading the Perl source
21:38 gmcharlt huginn will explain in a moment
21:38 gmcharlt no
21:37 cait is that a religious thing?
21:37 cait ?
21:36 * gmcharlt lashes himself ten times with a wet noodle
21:15 cait i guess better not revert :)
21:15 cait as cookies are not strictly healthy...
21:15 rangi heh
21:14 gmcharlt ;)
21:14 gmcharlt happy rangi? or well-fed rangi?
21:14 gmcharlt maybe I should revert?
21:14 wahanui well, problem there is we don't have an interface for lists.
21:14 gmcharlt problem there
21:14 gmcharlt hmm
21:14 gmcharlt tcohen: I've put a Gitolite config change in place to prevent pushing non-v* tags ... which mean that rangi won't be getting cookies from you
21:14 rangi ah right
21:13 wizzyrea and we all got unregistered :)
21:13 wizzyrea naw, i think huginn logged out
21:13 wizzyrea booyah
21:13 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #292 added.
21:13 wizzyrea @quote add Ashimema: looks like I've stumbled into that strange bit of the internet again
21:13 rangi hmm i must have logged out
21:13 huginn rangi: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
21:13 rangi @quote add Ashimema: looks like I've stumbled into that strange bit of the internet again
21:13 ashimema wizzyrea: foiled again..
21:13 rangi https://soundcloud.com/rocknrolla-soundsystem/ken-boothe-is-it-because-im
21:12 wizzyrea daw
21:12 huginn wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
21:12 wizzyrea @quote add Ashimema: looks like I've stumbled into that strange bit of the internet again
21:12 rangi heh
21:12 wizzyrea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qYtubNDzw < french cheese funk
21:12 ashimema looks like i've stumbled into that strange bit of the internet again.. thanks rangi ;)
21:09 wizzyrea *snicker*
21:09 rangi wizzyrea: you wanted funky cheese ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF7vnx479Gw
21:08 wizzyrea ohh that is very funky.
21:07 rangi tcohen: that works
21:07 wizzyrea cheese funky?
21:06 tcohen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f7XwCsx4fs
21:05 tcohen violent funky?
21:03 rangi i proclaim it funky friday
21:02 rangi https://soundcloud.com/jeantonique/destinys-child-jumpin-jumpin
21:01 ashimema hey rangi.
21:00 rangi hi ashimema
21:00 tcohen heh
21:00 ashimema hey cait.
21:00 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
21:00 rangi @later tell fridolin tcohen confessed it was him :) all good :)
20:59 * cait waves at ashimema
20:57 rangi :)
20:55 tcohen i can blame the one who wrote the instructions anyway LOL
20:54 cait oups
20:54 cait lol
20:54 * tcohen sends cookies to rangi, as it was his second time (never thought it would happen again if religiously followed the instructions)
20:54 cait for next time you will have to send rangi cookies :)
20:53 cait tradition ...
20:53 cait i think
20:53 cait e
20:53 cait you got one fre
20:53 tcohen sorry for that
20:53 tcohen it was me btw
20:52 rangi cant hurt
20:49 tcohen rangi: would you agree we should replace "git push remote --tags branch" for "git push remote tag" in the rmaint instructions?
20:34 nengard I don't know if I did mention it here in channel
20:34 nengard most of my "memos" are on facebook and twitter
20:34 nengard I moved in October
20:34 nengard hehe
20:34 rhcl I just didn't remember seeing that memo cross my desk
20:34 rhcl cool
20:34 nengard living in an apartment for now
20:33 nengard we're building a house: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nengard/archives/date-taken/2014/01/22/
20:33 nengard ha
20:33 rangi she was too weird for PA anymore, so they sent her to austin
20:33 nengard and since I can work anywhere ... we moved
20:33 nengard bengard got a job here
20:33 nengard living here
20:33 rhcl nengard: are you living in Austin now or just working there temp?
20:24 nengard getting colder ... but no rain yet
20:23 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Waller Beach, Austin, Texas is 4.0Â°C (2:11 PM CST on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -1.0Â°C. Windchill: 4.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.40 in 1030 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 6 PM this evening to noon CST Friday...
20:23 nengard @wunder 78741
20:12 druthb hm. Some rather-vigorous rain going on here, and temps are falling fast.
20:11 cait np :)
20:11 talljoy yup wasn't looking there. thanks cait!
20:11 cait not much yet, but dates :)
20:11 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon14
20:10 talljoy let me look again. i was not on wiki i thinks, but on website
20:10 cait trying to find it sec
20:10 * talljoy rubs her eyes
20:10 cait second week of october i think, was on the mailing list, i think also the wiki
20:10 talljoy didn't see it on the wiki. was i in the wrong spot?
20:09 cait yep
20:09 talljoy speaking of cordoba. did a date ever get set for kohacon 14?
20:09 talljoy heh
20:08 cait it seems like eythian really really doesn't like winter
20:08 rhcl ah, you jet setters...
20:07 cait it was awesome.
20:07 huginn rhcl: Error: No such location could be found.
20:07 rhcl @wunder angeles city, Philippines
20:07 huginn rhcl: Error: No such location could be found.
20:07 rhcl @wunder angeles city, phillipines
20:07 rangi rhcl: eythian worked at caits work a couple of years ago, and at a desk at biblibre too
20:07 huginn cait: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 39.0Â°C (5:05 PM ART on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 22.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.46 in 997.5 hPa (Steady).
20:07 cait @wunder Cordoba, Argentina
20:07 cait hm
20:06 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found.
20:06 cait @wunder Cordoba
20:06 cait :)
20:06 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Jomtien, Jomtien, Thailand is 21.3Â°C (3:00 AM ICT on January 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 36%. Dew Point: 6.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
20:06 rhcl @wunder Pattaya, Thailand
20:05 talljoy druthb++
20:05 druthb There ya go. The capital of Bali province.
20:05 talljoy there.....finally!
20:05 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Denpasar / Ngurah-Rai, Indonesia is 24.0Â°C (2:00 AM CIT on January 24, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 23.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
20:05 druthb @wunder Denpasar, Indonesia
20:04 huginn druthb: downloading the Perl source
20:04 druthb @sunder Denpasar, Indonesia
20:04 huginn talljoy: Error: No such location could be found.
20:04 talljoy @wunder DPS
20:04 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Flora Vista/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 18.8Â°C (12:04 PM PST on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 10.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling).
20:04 bag @wunder 93109
20:04 huginn rhcl: Error: No such location could be found.
20:04 rhcl @wunder indonesia
20:04 talljoy oh no, where did it go? lol
20:04 cait :)
20:04 talljoy no bali?
20:04 huginn talljoy: Error: No such location could be found.
20:04 talljoy @wunder Bali
20:04 talljoy Bali....hmmmm
20:03 rangi :)
20:03 rangi topologically wellington nz is only a few more hops away than texas
20:03 rhcl Isn't Bali down there around NZ somewhere? That would be a great OL (operating location)
20:03 rangi naw, rhcl, keep working for bywater/bsz just a different desk
20:02 rangi hehe yep
20:02 rhcl ?
20:02 rhcl blatant poaching
20:02 cait rangi: got a second desk?
20:02 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 23.0Â°C (1:10 AM IST on January 24, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 20.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
20:02 druthb @wunder mumbai
20:02 talljoy nice.
20:02 huginn talljoy: The current temperature in Lihue, Hawaii is 21.0Â°C (9:53 AM HST on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 12.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1016 hPa (Steady). High surf warning in effect until 6 am HST Friday...
20:02 talljoy @wunder Lihue
20:01 talljoy then again, i ought to just move to a tropical locale and never have to move.
20:01 rangi laurel got her flights to sfo for 1199$ nz return so under 1k usd
20:01 druthb $bunchteen.99
20:01 rangi there was a special on airnz
20:01 * talljoy goes to check airfare to NZ
20:01 talljoy sweet deal.
20:01 rangi talljoy: theres always a spare desk at the koha team at catalyst, you could do a trea :)
20:00 talljoy -1??? wha?
20:00 huginn talljoy: The current temperature in HADS WEST FORK TRINITY RIVER AT FORT TX US USGS, Fort Worth, Texas is -1.7Â°C (1:15 PM CST on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -15.0Â°C. Windchill: -6.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.59 in 1036 hPa (Steady).
20:00 talljoy @wunder Fort Worth, TX
20:00 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 10.0Â°C (2:00 PM CST on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 9.0Â°C. Windchill: 8.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Falling). Wind Advisory in effect from 4 PM this afternoon to 6 am CST Friday...
20:00 druthb @wunder 77098
20:00 druthb talljoy++
20:00 talljoy i think i need to become nomadic and work in the southern hemisphere half the year. i can't take the cold
19:59 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.2Â°C (8:55 PM CET on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 2.0Â°C. Windchill: 3.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
19:59 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:57 rhcl I'm lots more colder than magnus
19:56 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -11.1Â°C (1:56 PM CST on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -19.0Â°C. Windchill: -11.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.84 in 1044 hPa (Falling).
19:56 rhcl @wunder 64507
19:53 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0Â°C (8:30 AM NZDT on January 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0Â°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
19:53 rangi @wunder nzwn
19:53 rangi sleep well magnuse
19:53 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0Â°C (8:20 PM CET on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -15.0Â°C. Windchill: -12.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
19:53 magnuse @wunder boo
19:53 * magnuse wanders off into the night
19:53 magnuse rangi: that is kind of appropriate for this channel, though... :-)
19:50 wahanui hola, cait
19:50 cait wahanui: hello
19:50 cait hello
19:50 cait lol
19:49 bag HAHA
19:48 rangi hmm i need to fix wahanui, unless kai ora is hello in some other language .. cos in maori that means eat well, not hello
19:47 dani howdy
19:47 wahanui kai ora, dani
19:47 dani hello
19:47 * magnuse waves to dani
19:47 bag heya dani
19:46 nengard I was typing in the wrong window anyway, but glad she's joining us
19:46 nengard there she is :) hehe
19:46 rangi :)
19:46 rangi nengard: and now dani is here too
19:45 magnuse rangi: yay - way to go!
19:43 nengard Found her ... she was in our work channel :)
19:43 rangi magnuse: i particularly like my ranty session is sponsored by publishers
19:43 magnuse LibraryBox - yay!
19:43 magnuse rangi: cool!
19:42 rangi unless she chose a new nick
19:42 rangi nengard: no
19:42 nengard dani around?
19:42 rangi and we are exhibiting too and doing a short koha presentation
19:41 rangi magnuse: http://www.vala.org.au/boot-camp
19:41 huginn talljoy: The operation succeeded.
19:41 talljoy @later tell druthb ping me when you can
19:41 talljoy yes but is she here?
19:41 talljoy lol
19:41 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
19:41 talljoy druthb ?
19:41 rangi http://www.vala.org.au/conf2014
19:37 magnuse Vala?
19:36 rangi heh
19:36 kathryn_ esp after you lose your voice
19:36 rangi yup
19:36 kathryn_ yeah will need to talk a lot at Vala
19:35 rangi so rest is good
19:35 rangi well we will be talking a crap ton in 9 days time
19:35 rangi ah yeah
19:35 kathryn_ more likely a spasm
19:35 kathryn_ "take painkillers and rest it"
19:35 rangi like a pulled muscle?
19:34 kathryn_ yeah, not even to do with teeth :/
19:34 rangi weird
19:34 rangi ahh i just read the whereis
19:34 rangi got a dentist appt?
19:34 rangi eek
19:34 gmcharlt rangi: done
19:33 kathryn_ REALLY sore jaw now
19:33 kathryn_ rangi: just sent a whereis message for work, but am staying home so can put food in a blender and talk less
19:33 kathryn_ rangi: I wish! (to both)
19:33 rangi :)
19:33 rangi or blowing off work for the cricket?
19:32 rangi miss the ferry kathryn_ ?
19:31 kathryn_ morning :)
19:30 rangi ill go clean up the tags
19:30 rangi yes please
19:30 gmcharlt shall I make it?
19:30 gmcharlt rangi: easy Gitolite config change to only allow tags/v*
19:30 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:30 rangi @later tell tcohen awesome work on the new release, just can you make sure you only push the new tag (or push tags from a clean repo) otherwise it pushes a whole pile of tags we dont want/need
19:30 cait just nobody ever listens to me! :p
19:29 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
19:29 rangi @later tell fridolin awesome work on the new release, just can you make sure you only push the new tag (or push tags from a clean repo) otherwise it pushes a whole pile of tags we dont want/need
19:29 cait that's what i tried to say earlier...
19:28 rangi it was either tcohen or fridolin
19:28 magnuse not me!
19:28 rangi who pushed all the tags again
19:28 rangi eeek
19:28 gmcharlt water-byers?
19:27 rangi tcohen++
19:25 bag hey rhcl you were looking for me?
19:21 magnuse lol
19:21 * bag is a bugger to his poor dear old dad
19:21 bag my dad for my whole life has always said - I've forgotten more than you know - I was always like geezze thanks dad I must be really dumb then
19:20 magnuse sorry, i just forgot
19:20 bag or is that what I used to know and have already forgotten
19:20 bag or is that know?
19:19 bag it's dangerous what I think :P
19:19 magnuse bag: that's what you think
19:19 pianohacker I think most people at bywater just call me pianohacker anymore...
19:18 bag HA - I'll stick with Brendan :P
19:18 rangi heh
19:18 pianohacker awesome
19:18 pianohacker jesse g, jesse m, and jesse w
19:18 cait sounds like a plan
19:18 mtompset Why bywaterians? Why not bywaterites?
19:18 rangi bag will probably still answer to that
19:18 rangi cait: just call them all jesse
19:18 bag well cait and magnuse - it's really easy - you've got cute young fun pianohacker, awesomely fun JesseM and old fart annoying dood bag
19:18 magnuse yay, i get to meet some more bywaterians i have not met!
19:18 * druthb climbs into the pillow fort with lil Ginny
19:17 magnuse we must all just use last names
19:17 cait we will have to number you
19:17 bag so pianohacker = Jesse Weaver, JesseM = Jesse Maseto, and bag = this crazy fool
19:17 JesseM Yup :D
19:17 cait :)
19:17 cait confusing!
19:17 pianohacker yup :)
19:17 magnuse so 2x jesse?
19:17 magnuse ah, cool
19:17 bag magnuse: it's pianohacker, JesseM and me
19:16 pianohacker khall right?
19:16 bag druthb: just texted you some pics of the fort
19:16 magnuse bag: i'm a little confused as to who is coming to marseille - you and pianohacker and... one more?
19:15 bag druthb: ginny has room for you - she'd love it if you joined :D
19:15 mtompset I hate writing tests, but having just tweaked t/db_dependent/Biblio.t, I think standards would be a good thing!
19:14 * druthb builds a pillow fort, hides in it.
19:13 cait wrong tags/branches again?
19:13 cait hm looks like some weird git messages
19:11 cait :)
19:10 bag it's a build pillow forts with Ginny kind of day
19:10 magnuse have fun tcohen
19:09 tcohen ok, see u later #koha
19:00 magnuse consensus++
18:58 gmcharlt then a consensus can emerge :)
18:58 gmcharlt discuss on koha-devel
18:58 gmcharlt write about writing tests
18:58 gmcharlt i.e., write tests
18:58 gmcharlt tcohen: and that's what I want to emphasize to you
18:58 tcohen and as rangi told me several times, the patches should talk for themselves
18:57 tcohen gmcharlt: i'll try to do something I can convince the RM with, don't worry
18:56 fridolin see you tomorrow
18:55 gmcharlt but it didn't end up being used by folks other than those who introduced it
18:55 gmcharlt in part, for historical reasons -- there was a time when Test::Class was used
18:55 magnuse fridolin++
18:55 gmcharlt I'd be cautious about adopting an OOP testing framework
18:54 gmcharlt the bit about tseting behavior, not implementation, is good
18:54 cait fridolin++
18:54 tcohen fridolin++ # I got distracted by this chat and you won this time :-P
18:53 gmcharlt of course, that's not to stand in the way of using subtests if somebody wants to
18:53 fridolin I've updated this time the symlink "koha-latest.tar.gz" on download site
18:53 rangi fridolin++
18:53 gmcharlt fridolin++
18:53 fridolin FYI : 3.14.2 is released, still hot :D
18:53 tcohen I think that would be the RM decision
18:53 gmcharlt IOW, a coding rule of "you always must use subtests" would be too much of a barrier, at least at present
18:53 tcohen as in Search.t
18:52 gmcharlt easier to justify as a set of tests grows in size and complexity
18:52 gmcharlt the example given in that link tacks on 7 more lines of code; not justified for a set of simple tests
18:52 cait +1
18:51 rangi so there is NO excuse for not doing it
18:51 rangi i personally want it as utterly easy and low barrier to write tests as possible
18:51 tcohen that link was just the first gogole result i got
18:51 gmcharlt I do too... but only over a certain level of complexity
18:51 tcohen gmcharlt: i personally like subtests
18:50 gmcharlt e.g., in the link tcohen provided, the example under the "Group your tests or, even better, use classes" is not great
18:50 rangi name the tests
18:50 magnuse kia ora rangi
18:50 gmcharlt +1 to more grouping, but not to the point of verbosity
18:50 cait morning rangi
18:50 rangi and yes i agree
18:50 rangi morning
18:49 * cait likes that
18:49 gmcharlt do is($foo, $bar, 'the foo is barred');
18:48 gmcharlt i.e., never just do is($foo, $bar);
18:48 gmcharlt now one specific suggestion I have for a new guideline: every test should have a name
18:48 tcohen heh
18:48 tcohen but I'm not actually aware of "good practices"
18:48 * magnuse is a copy-and-paster
18:48 tcohen got the point gmcharlt, will try to put my 2 cents on that
18:48 magnuse +1 to all of the above
18:47 gmcharlt and +1 to cleaning
18:47 gmcharlt so if one wants to introduce a new guideline, making an implementation of it part of the proposal makes it mroe clear why it's a good idea, and gives the copy-and-pasters among us a better starting point
18:47 * cait likes how tcohen thinks ;)
18:47 tcohen then I thought it should be documented somewhere
18:47 tcohen gmcharlt: i was thinking of working on refactoring some tests (mostly cleaning)
18:46 cait ihave had a lot of people asking for some best practice exapmles for dbic
18:46 tcohen hm, not following you
18:46 gmcharlt IOW, a lot of people, for good or ill, get started by looking for an example to copy and extend
18:45 gmcharlt but I think that actually needs to be part of the process -- i.e., rather than just assert new guidelines, accompany them with patches that improve the tests
18:45 tcohen heh
18:44 tcohen then copy and pasted the wrong sample test
18:44 tcohen first time I tried to write one, I looked for the coding guidelines
18:44 cait true :)
18:44 tcohen "they ask me for tests, how do I write one?"
18:43 tcohen hmm, I think its actually the opossite
18:43 cait it's still hard to get people to actually write them
18:43 cait not sure if we should insist on too many rules right now
18:42 tcohen we should use more subtests for organizing the tests, and remove output (or at least have <> if $DEBUG; or something similar
18:41 cait thx for fixing the sorting
18:41 cait gmcharlt++
18:41 gmcharlt well, at a start the unit tests should be subject to the same guidelines as the rest of the codebase
18:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10907: (follow-up) fix table sorting <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cc0d7b700f27ac3bacb2964475da1f3aabbc919> / Bug 10907: DBRev 3.15.00.015 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f474c9dea10828e80dbed909e6c70904158535b6> / Bug 10907: Optionally show the staff member's name who managed a suggestion in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=com
18:41 cait hm like?
18:40 tcohen should we have coding guidelines for unit tests?
18:40 tcohen http://showmetheco.de/articles/2011/11/tdd-best-practices-in-perl.html
18:36 pianohacker ahhh. woo hackfest!
18:35 cait magnuse booked his tickets tomarseille and tcohen has healthy envy
18:34 pianohacker I don't actually know what we're talking about
18:34 cait ah
18:34 cait aren't you going too pianohacker?
18:34 cait hm?
18:34 pianohacker heh yourself! :(
18:33 cait heh
18:33 * tcohen has *healthy* envy
18:31 cait :)
18:31 cait woohoo
18:31 * magnuse has his tickets for marseille booked
18:23 * magnuse waves
18:03 cait gmcharlt++
17:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11486: Don't display the number of remaining renewals if == 0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=443ec407861762b8249685700e9cf18c9a9407e2> / Bug 11486: Show renewal count on 'check out' and 'details' tabs in patron record <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b464eda7c39392143c4448c505312c7bb310ae92>
17:44 * tcohen thought he might have been hiding
17:44 tcohen :-P
17:44 tcohen jenkins_koha: build Koha_3.12.x
17:43 wahanui junkins is a bit lazy today
17:43 tcohen where is junkins?
17:42 cait hi tcohen :)
17:42 tcohen hi cait
17:40 * cait waves
17:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11415: DBRev 3.15.00.014 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=24be6eb80eda9dee146687d5109d41430c7a8c76> / Bug 11415 (QA Followup) fix whitespace <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6254f5f07ab84ef7d6b6518d8f39bde9987a92e4> / Bug 11415: Add syspref to toggle SCO receipt printing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cc3b69a0cf1adfc7c50c2
17:16 reiveune bye
17:07 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10922: (follow-up) remove display of form parameter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e276049746bf3cffc835eeee596040967b4ac9cc> / Bug 10922: Display whether prices are include or don't include tax when creating... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b56285e2250737a1a2282f2e3e8b4d0f1e0818c> / Bug 11397: Remove the itemnumber list on the Acquisition detail tab <
16:42 cait bye all
16:40 cait tcohen++
16:00 gmcharlt tcohen++
15:59 tcohen i'll release3.12 today with a statement on the MARC::XML upgrade
15:58 tcohen ok
15:58 gmcharlt re your second question, sure
15:58 gmcharlt re 9579, yes, but I will review the patch today first
15:57 tcohen and also: should the Search.t tests also mix "-g iso2709" and the marcxml counterpart?
15:55 tcohen is it ok that I mark 9579 3.14 instead of master?
15:51 gmcharlt yep
15:51 tcohen gmcharlt: around?
15:44 tcohen it targets the stable branches
15:42 tcohen can anyone take a quick look at 9579?
15:21 tcohen holidays++
15:21 * tcohen just remembered 3.12.9 should be released soon
15:14 huginn rhcl: bag was last seen in #koha 6 hours, 44 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <bag> heya gaetan_B
15:14 rhcl @seen bag
15:07 paul_p JesseM and you're right ;-)
15:07 paul_p bag told me in Reno, where we decided the dates. We choose the dates to fit pianohacker school holidays ;-)
15:06 JesseM Cant wait paul_p
15:06 paul_p JesseM yes, but I already knew, so it's not a surprise for me ;-)
15:06 JesseM Hi paul_p pianohacker is coming as well. The other Jesse :)
15:05 paul_p hi bag & JesseM & khall = so Kyle is not coming to Marseille, it's JesseM. Happy for JesseM ( & too bad for you, khall )
15:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10952 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Store anonymous search history in session
15:04 Joubu bug 10952 should fix that
15:00 chris_n tcohen: thanks, I'll try that
14:58 tcohen it happened a couple of times, the only solution was to delete the recent searches cookies
14:58 wahanui release maintainer for 3.2, 3.4, and 3.6. or late on 3.6.5
14:58 tcohen yes chris_n
14:57 mtompset just when you think you're done another thread unravels.
14:56 mtompset oh curses!
14:56 mtompset No, but I have seen my university friend post something about how Chrome extensions/plugins have been hijacked by adware folk. :)
14:52 pastebot "chris_n" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Broswer Weirdness" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/96
14:52 chris_n has anyone seen this sort of weirdness with Chrome?
14:31 talljoy lol
14:31 magnuse talljoy: who says i'm surviving ;-)
14:26 drojf hi mtompset
14:25 mtompset Greetings, drojf.
14:25 drojf hi #koha
14:21 druthb (which, given that we are a city of four million people that only has a dozen snow plowsâ€¦. )
14:21 druthb It was all over the radio this morning, how nasty it's gonna be here. 0.1 inches of ice possibleâ€¦
14:21 nengard ick! and no advisory
14:20 huginn edveal: The current temperature in WT_Meso Lubbock 3W, Lubbock, Texas is -4.4Â°C (7:25 AM CST on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -10.0Â°C. Windchill: -13.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.41 in 1030 hPa (Rising).
14:20 edveal @wunder 79410
14:20 nengard got to love it here
14:20 nengard That's too funny .... 9.7 and we have a winter weather advisory
14:19 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Waller Beach, Austin, Texas is 9.7Â°C (8:14 AM CST on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -1.0Â°C. Windchill: 10.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 6 PM this evening to noon CST Friday...
14:19 nengard @wunder 78741
14:19 mtompset Anyone below -18.8? ;)
14:19 rhcl that's pretty cold
14:19 rhcl -118.3Â°C
14:19 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -18.8Â°C (9:19 AM EST on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -22.0Â°C. Windchill: -19.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
14:19 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5
14:19 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 13.3Â°C (8:19 AM CST on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 12.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling). Winter Storm Warning in effect from 9 PM this evening to 9 am CST Friday...
14:19 druthb @wunder 77098
14:19 druthb hi, mtompset! :)
14:18 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -18.3Â°C (8:18 AM CST on January 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -23.0Â°C. Windchill: -18.0Â°C. Pressure: 30.84 in 1044 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 11 am CST this morning...
14:18 rhcl @wunder 64507
14:18 mtompset if I wanted to try testing a patch in a sandbox, how would I do that?
14:17 talljoy magnuse that is ^
14:17 talljoy magnues how are you surviving with such a drastic diet change?
14:17 Dyrcona hello!
14:17 edveal morning everyone
14:16 talljoy yo mtompset
14:16 tcohen morning nengard
14:16 nengard good morning all
14:16 tcohen hi mtompset
14:16 mtompset Greetings, Dyrcona edveal nengard tcohen talljoy. :)
14:16 mtompset Greetings, druthb. :)
14:15 * magnuse has noe eaten pizza since friday
13:49 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
13:49 druthb magnuse!
13:48 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
13:48 magnuse druthb!
13:41 marcelr o those scripts..
13:37 magnuse maybe his scripts kicked *him* off...
13:35 marcelr i mailed him in the meantime
13:35 marcelr yeah
13:35 mtompset If he is, he is being rather quiet, marcelr. :)
13:35 huginn mtompset: jcamins was last seen in #koha 2 days, 6 hours, 5 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <jcamins> 12k records to go. I have some other scripts I want to kick off when this is done.
13:35 mtompset @seen jcamins
13:35 mtompset Greetings, oleonard
13:23 marcelr jcamins already here?
13:22 marcelr hi oleonard
13:19 oleonard Hi #koha
12:48 marcelr cait: that is true; i checked too now
12:47 mtompset Yes, it was a local change.
12:47 cait thankfully, i got worried for a moment :)
12:47 cait was a local change
12:47 cait marcelr: the default files in the installer are not mapping 541 - i checked yesterday
12:47 mtompset And the weird thing is... the values, for the most part, never made it into the stocknumber field either.
12:46 mtompset However, that means our MARCXML has buggy 541$e entries.
12:46 marcelr is it still in the install files that way?
12:46 marcelr just remove it :)
12:46 mtompset We've corrected that.
12:46 mtompset Yes, I agree. But we had 541$e mapping to items.stocknumber.
12:45 marcelr mtompset: imo 541 should never map to items
12:45 mtompset Though, I doubt people would create a frameworkcode of YOLO.
12:44 mtompset YOLO... some people say You Only Live Once.
12:41 mtompset in marc_subfield_structure;
12:41 mtompset More specifically, why 541$e is 9 for all but the default framework.
12:29 marcelr i'll have a look at my data now
12:28 mtompset I've figured out part of our problems, and worked it through with my colleagues... but I'm still trying to understand why tab 5 vs. tab 9.
12:27 marcelr hi mtompset: you still want someone to look at the framework/541 problem?
12:21 tcohen YOLO?
12:20 fridolin hie mtompset ;)
12:18 mtompset Greeting, fridolin.
12:17 fridolin hie all
12:12 mtompset Is anyone ever going to create a YOLO framework?
12:08 mtompset YAY!
12:08 mtompset There. Wrote some tests.
12:08 tcohen hi mtompset
12:04 mtompset greetings, tcohen khall
12:04 tcohen morning #koha
11:25 mtompset slef++ # yes, the dog octopus was a nice touch.
11:24 mtompset Greetings, magnuse.
11:24 magnuse slef++ for the octopus!
11:24 magnuse hiya mtompset
11:15 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
10:46 wahanui octopus is good raw
10:46 cait octopus.
10:46 cait slef++
10:45 * cait waves
09:19 gaetan_B hey bag how are you doing ? :)
08:29 wahanui gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons
08:29 bag heya gaetan_B
08:27 gaetan_B hello
08:20 cait oh that was fast :)
08:20 bag hi there
08:20 cait bag: ping me when you are around sometime?
08:06 cait hi all, hi Joubu
08:02 Joubu hello
07:53 alex_a bonjour
07:46 cait :)
07:46 cait hi marcelr
07:44 marcelr hi cait
07:43 reiveune hi marcelr
07:43 marcelr hello reiveune
07:42 wahanui niihau, reiveune
07:42 reiveune hello
07:36 marcelr hi paul_p
07:36 paul_p good morning #koha
07:36 marcelr good morning #koha
07:33 * magnuse waves
06:33 cait hm too slow
06:33 cait hae a nice evening :)
06:33 dcook have a good day, cait :)
06:32 dcook Time for me to head out too
06:31 dcook Thanks again for those explanations this morning ^_^
06:31 dcook ta eythian
06:28 eythian bye
06:28 * eythian is now leaving
06:26 cait hi eythian and dcook
06:26 dcook yo cait
06:24 wahanui hi, eythian
06:24 eythian hi
06:23 cait hi #koha
05:11 Oak have a good night mtompset.
05:09 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
05:09 mtompset Greetings, Oak.
04:56 Oak kia ora #koha
04:53 eythian heh
04:53 dcook Bad humour doesn't translate so well to IRC...*goes back to his Apache config*
04:53 dcook "Oh dear" now, earlier wizzyrea was talking about "that guy on the listserv" :p
04:53 dcook magnuse is copping lots of flak today :p
04:51 eythian oh dear
04:48 dcook He doesn't. He explodes in the sky.
04:45 eythian I didn't know tcohen glitters.
04:43 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
04:43 dcook @later tell tcohen Listening to "Glittering Darkness" and thinking of you!
03:53 dcook cait++
03:53 dcook gmcharlt++
03:53 dcook Wow 64 pushed in January, go gmcharlt!
03:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11313: supply empty value in mandatory comboboxs in MARC record editors <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc698eed06ec9a7335c4b94362917d2b364b44c4>
03:26 wizzyrea thanks :D
03:26 wizzyrea (also didn't want to spend the time doing a prog version of the last patch if there was a concern)
03:25 wizzyrea just wanted to make sure there wasn't some underlying concern
03:25 wizzyrea oh cool yay!
03:24 gmcharlt wizzyrea: well, now that there's a bootstrap follow-up, I'll look at it in due course
03:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10944 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Passed QA , Mixed content warnings in results and detail with Amazon images on https
03:17 wizzyrea i had a question about the passed qa patches on bug 10944 - is there a concern there that I'm not aware of?
03:17 gmcharlt wizzyrea: whassup?
02:53 wizzyrea yowch.
02:52 eythian http://blogs.csoonline.com/network-security/2945/researcher-rewarded-33k-snatching-password-file-facebooks-server <-- y'know that MARC-XML issue. Well, it was this.
02:13 wizzyrea gmcharlt, about?
01:14 mtompset GAH! LOCATE is a MySQLism.
00:19 * tcohen is tempted but comparing to wahanui would give interesting results :-P
00:18 tcohen heh
00:14 wahanui OK, eythian.
00:14 eythian wahanui: be human is <reply>\I got 98% in my last Turing test!
00:14 eythian there isn't really a feedback loop going on with those emails, is there.
00:13 eythian heh
00:13 tcohen what I mean eythian, is that its like watching "Family guy", just random unlinked stuff
00:11 * tcohen belives answering means teaching the machines, and they will rule us
00:11 cjh heh
00:10 eythian +You
00:10 eythian 're not helping! Why is that, tcohen?
00:10 eythian The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping.
00:10 eythian You reach down and you flip the tortoise over on its back, tcohen.
00:10 eythian You look down and see a tortoise, tcohen. It's crawling toward you...
00:08 * tcohen belives *shiyas1234* wouldn't pass a Turing test
00:02 * tcohen belives *shiyas1234* is a bot
00:01 * dcook seems to recall needing something like 3 different pathways to a key for it to be trusted
00:01 tcohen yeah, gmcharlt mentioned the signing step when I created mine but hten I forgot to get them signed during kohacon31
00:01 dcook I've never met eythian, but I have met rangi a couple times, so I would probably sign rangi's public key, and he's signed eythian's so that's one connection...
00:00 * dcook says again having only really been researching/experimenting for 2 days
00:00 dcook Ideally, when I met you in person, we would've exchanged public keys, signed them, and uploaded them to a keyserver