Time Nick Message
00:04 wizzyrea dcool, ie9 and 10 your known issues?
00:04 wizzyrea dcook even
00:05 dcook I think I have an issue with every version of IE :p
00:05 wizzyrea major ones?
00:05 dcook Hmm
00:05 dcook I'm not sure how to answer that.
00:06 dcook I suppose it depends on your workflow?
00:06 dcook Nothing impacting super core functionality, that I can think of
00:06 wizzyrea right that's what I'm asking I think
00:06 * dcook takes a look at his existing "IE Bugs" cateogyr
00:06 dcook category*
00:07 dcook Apparently the Help button doesn't work in IE8 but does in IE9
00:07 dcook In the staff client
00:07 dcook At least in 3.8.0
00:07 wizzyrea fair enough
00:07 dcook I think Microsoft provides VMs specifically for testing older versions of IE. They're short term, but I've been thinking about getting some to try some of these bugs against master.
00:08 dcook And even against 3.8.0, as I run IE 11
00:08 dcook (which has its own issues)
00:08 dcook Why do you ask? :)
00:09 wizzyrea someone asked about "are there lots of known IE bugs in 3.1x versions"
00:09 dcook Mmm
00:09 wizzyrea i don't know many people who even actually try
00:09 wizzyrea to run IE
00:09 dcook Too many of our clients, unfortunately :(
00:09 dcook Mostly government I think
00:10 dcook Actually, I encountered an interesting case recently, where they were kept on old IE because other software couldn't work on anything but those old IE versions
00:10 dcook And that other software was more involved with their core business
00:10 dcook Scary, eh?
00:10 wizzyrea probably because of the awful security problems that were fixed in future versions were required functionality for this software
00:11 dcook Wouldn't surprise me
00:11 dcook I have a dream...where no one would ever have to use IE again.
00:12 dcook Mmm, actually, the IE 11 issue I'm thinking of was for 3.8.0 - it wasn't an issue in master.
00:12 dcook Thankfully
00:12 dcook I wonder if IE11 is what ships with the windows 8 phones..
00:13 dcook It IS better than older versions, but...bleargh
00:38 ibeardslee IE is needed for something to mock
00:39 wizzyrea @quote add ibeardslee: IE is needed for something to mock
00:39 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #288 added.
00:40 ibeardslee yay .. famous
00:40 dcook hehe
00:47 Dyrcona @quote get random
00:47 huginn Dyrcona: Error: 'random' is not a valid id.
00:47 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
00:48 Dyrcona @quote random
00:48 huginn Dyrcona: Quote #261: "<jcamins> I'm pretty sure the point of KohaCon is socialization and drinking." (added by chris at 12:30 AM, June 20, 2013)
00:48 dcook Good times
00:50 wizzyrea @quote random
00:50 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #72: "<nengard> it's evil xslt in the staff client" (added by jdavidb at 12:28 PM, April 29, 2010)
00:50 wizzyrea erm
00:50 wizzyrea @quote random
00:50 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #168: "gmcharlt: #koha is ALL the time" (added by chris_n at 09:01 PM, December 01, 2011)
00:50 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
00:50 wizzyrea @quote random
00:50 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #111: "<thd> kf: Many things can be funded with many people and small amounts." (added by druthb at 12:28 PM, December 15, 2010)
00:51 wizzyrea too right.
01:39 rangi ok, academy students
01:39 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration#Get_git-bz
01:40 rangi git clone git://git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git
01:40 rangi cd git-bz
01:41 rangi git branch
01:41 rangi git checkout -b fishsoup origin/fishsoup
01:41 rangi git branch
01:42 rangi sudo ln -s ~/git-bz/git-bz /usr/local/bin/git-bz
01:43 rangi PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
01:43 rangi export PATH
01:43 rangi cd
01:43 rangi cd koha
01:44 rangi git config bz.default-tracker bugs.koha-community.org
01:44 rangi git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.path /bugzilla3
01:44 rangi git config bz.default-product Koha
01:44 rangi git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-user yourusser_on_bugzilla
01:45 rangi git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-password yourbugzillapassword
01:45 rangi herp derp
01:47 Roman_ ok done
01:48 rangi git fetch
01:48 alexh git fetch
01:49 rangi git checkout origin/master
01:49 rangi git branch
01:49 rangi if you get something about changes
01:49 rangi type
01:49 rangi git stash
01:49 wahanui git stash is probably for saving and restoring unstaged (and uncommited) changes.
01:50 rangi git checkout origin/master
01:51 rangi git bz apply 11535
01:51 rangi choose y
01:51 rangi git show
01:52 rangi git checkout origin/master
01:57 francesca I've caught up with you guys now I think
02:04 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11535
02:04 huginn 04Bug 11535: major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Patron self-registration form does not sanitize its input
02:08 rangi git bz apply 11535
02:09 kathryn_ wut! oh...
02:12 rangi git commit --amend -s
02:13 rangi dont change anything, just save and quit
02:14 rangi git log
02:17 rangi git checkout origin/master
02:17 rangi git bz apply bugnumber
02:17 rangi git show
02:19 rangi read the test message
02:20 rangi git checkout origin/master
02:20 Roman_ git log
02:21 rangi git bz apply bugnumber
02:22 rangi git commmit --amend -s
02:25 rangi git commit --amend -s
02:26 rangi git bz attach bugnumber HEAD
02:26 rangi no not that
02:26 rangi this
02:26 rangi git bz attach -e bugnumber HEAD
02:51 rangi have a look at
02:51 rangi http://bootstrap3.kissr.com/
02:54 rangi http://bootstrap3.kissr.com/
03:43 eythian wahanui: youtube is http://youtu.be/Lm-6RR4sLXw
03:43 wahanui ...but youtube is not available in wahanui's country?...
03:44 eythian no wahanui, youtube is http://youtu.be/Lm-6RR4sLXw
03:44 wahanui okay, eythian.
04:33 dcook rangi: I think you've missed the obsoleting the original patch step
04:33 dcook bug 11541
04:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11541 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Increasing test coverage for C4::Installer
04:33 dcook bug 11546
04:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11546 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , facets labels are not css selectable
05:16 rangi If you have a sec to fix those 2 it would be awesome, I'll do it after dinner otherwise
05:17 dcook Sure. I just didn't want to claim them, so I figured I would mention it.
05:18 dcook Done
05:23 rangi Awesome
05:23 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, rangi
05:25 rangi Ah no I misunderstood, they need another sign off
05:25 rangi Outside of Catalyst or the academy before they can be marked signed off
05:25 dcook Mmm, that makes sense
05:26 dcook Well, I can do that too
05:26 dcook I've looked at a fair number of other bugs lately and just can't pass them
05:26 dcook It feels nice to actually pass something :p
05:26 dcook I'll get on that in a sec
05:33 dcook On the other hand...
05:34 dcook I don't know if I can sign off 11541
05:34 dcook hey cait
05:34 cait morning
05:34 * cait rubs eyes
05:34 dcook It's already 6:34am. Surely this must be a sleep in? :p
05:34 cait hmpf?
05:36 rangi Yeah that one I'm expecting to be failed
05:37 rangi Be back in a bit, once the kids are asleep
05:37 dcook I just switched it back to "Needs signoff" and added a comment.
05:37 dcook Sure thing. I'm probably going to run off to the gym soon. Night, rangi.
05:38 cait 65 bug mails
05:38 cait ugh
05:39 cait bug 11541
05:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11541 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Increasing test coverage for C4::Installer
05:56 cait dcook: still around?
05:58 dcook ish
05:58 dcook On the phone :/
05:58 cait ah
05:58 cait washoping you could do some more sign offs :P
06:06 dcook I wish
06:06 dcook I'm in the middle of one at the moment
06:06 * dcook hates the phone
06:08 * dcook has 24 minute shoulder/neck cramp
06:13 dcook cait: Anything else you have for me?
06:13 dcook I'm probably going to head off soon, but maybe I can do another
06:18 dcook Home/gym time, me thinks
06:18 dcook night all
06:18 wahanui goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
07:31 fridolin hie community
07:33 cait hi fridolin
07:33 cait have to run... bbl from work
07:40 reiveune hello
07:40 wahanui que tal, reiveune
08:01 fridolin at last, I've created release post for 3.14.1 : http://koha-community.org/koha-3-14-1-released/
08:02 fridolin I've had problems with my mailbox, not receiving the confirmation mail
08:06 Joubu hello
08:07 cait hi Jo
08:07 cait hi Joubu
08:09 cait fridolin: glad it could be resolved :) fridolin++
08:10 fridolin I finally used my personal gmail email
09:14 * rangi has almost finished the plans for tomorrow
09:14 cait oh
09:14 cait what are you going to do tomorrow? :)
09:14 rangi http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7ece9a79b20e7898022c5439f854e9d45e108c7
09:14 rangi bootstrap3 stuff
09:15 rangi if i can get each student to do a couple of templates each
09:15 cait not taking over the world? :)
09:15 rangi we could get 16 or so done
09:15 cait sounds good
09:16 cait is there a page somewhere that points up the major things we need to do for the update?
09:17 rangi yeah
09:18 cait points out...
09:18 rangi http://bootply.com/bootstrap-3-migration-guide#migration
09:20 cait the documenation does look quite good
09:20 cait but lots of changes...
09:25 rangi yeah, its pretty straightforward tho
09:25 rangi and it looks quite broken until you do it
09:25 rangi ie, switch the bootstrap.css
09:26 rangi then you can see, and just fix the .tt until it looks normal again :)
09:26 cait :)
11:19 vfernandes hello :)
11:20 vfernandes today i was doing a new koha 3.12 installation and something strange happened
11:21 vfernandes I wasn't able to create patron categories
11:22 cait vfernandes: i haven#t had that happen in 3.12 so far
11:22 cait hard to tell what might be going wrong
11:22 vfernandes I filled up the form with the correct data, saved and nothing happened, the categorie wasn't added and no error in the logs
11:22 cait are you working with translated templates?
11:22 vfernandes english templates
11:22 cait hm
11:22 cait which 3.12 version?
11:23 vfernandes last 3.12.... i don't know the number :D
11:23 cait hm
11:23 cait and you can't add one at all?
11:23 cait i mean there are no categories yet in the database?
11:23 vfernandes no... only directly on database
11:24 cait i know it silently fails when you try to add one with a category code that already exists
11:25 vfernandes the table is empty
11:25 cait sorry, not sure then :(
11:25 vfernandes the database is on a remote Windows Server
11:26 vfernandes could be something related to that?
11:28 cait you added a branch first, right?
11:28 vfernandes yes! 29 :D
11:30 cait and no error in the logs.
11:30 cait phew.
11:31 vfernandes nop only a file not found of a image declared on CSS file
11:31 cait hm
11:31 cait and you are checking the intanet log not the opac log?
11:31 vfernandes koha-error-log
11:31 wahanui i think koha-error-log is there, no errors recently for it.
11:31 cait (i have amde that mistake many times...)
11:33 vfernandes damn this is strange
11:47 vfernandes error found: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha`.`borrower_message_preferences`, CONSTRAINT `borrower_message_preferences_ibfk_3` FOREIGN KEY (`categorycode`) REFERENCES `categories` (`categorycode`) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCAD) at /KEEPS/koha/lib/C4/Members/Messaging.pm line 168.
11:47 vfernandes it was appearing in the error.log of apache
11:48 vfernandes but that is for messaging... :/
11:48 vfernandes let me see if there are more errors
11:50 vfernandes DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Incorrect date value: '' for column 'enrolmentperioddate' at row 1 at /KEEPS/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/categorie.pl line 174.
11:51 vfernandes I wan't to set to 36 months the period
11:51 vfernandes could the date being bad calculated?
11:55 vfernandes it can't add the category even with enrolmentperioddate or enrolmentperiod set... :/
11:59 cait hm it shoudl be another field
11:59 cait enrolmentperioddate is when you set a hardcoded date
11:59 cait there are 2 fields there - one for a date and one for months
11:59 cait you can only fill out either or
12:00 vfernandes I know... the interface blocks that behaviour
12:00 vfernandes but when I set the enrolmentperioddate the system gives error saying that enrolmentperiod isn't a integer value
12:00 tcohen morning cait #koha
12:01 cait vfernandes: did you turn on enhancedmessaign?
12:01 vfernandes if i set the enrolmentperiod the system says that enrolmentperioddate isn't a correct date
12:01 vfernandes yes
12:01 cait i can't test myself right now
12:01 cait maybe tcohen can help
12:01 cait he is rmaint for 3.12
12:02 tcohen what is it about?
12:02 vfernandes tcohen i'm having a problem adding patron categories
12:02 vfernandes if I set the enrolmentperioddate the system gives error saying that enrolmentperiod isn't a integer value
12:02 vfernandes if i set the enrolmentperiod the system says that enrolmentperioddate isn't a correct date
12:03 vfernandes in the two cases the categorie isn't added
12:03 nlegrand hey #koha
12:04 tcohen let me check vfernandez
12:09 tcohen vfernandes: just tried on 3.12.x and had no problem with creating a patron category
12:09 tcohen are you working on 'english' templates or translated ones?
12:09 vfernandes i've checked that the value of the enrolmentperioddate when filling enrolmentperiod is empty... but the input->{enrolmentperioddate} is ''
12:10 vfernandes english templates
12:10 vfernandes could be some perl package?
12:10 cait vfernandes: could you check your koha verison on the about page?
12:11 vfernandes 3.12.8
12:11 tcohen you're here, right vfernandes? http://snag.gy/0QI3D.jpg
12:11 cait sorry, have to run, bbiab
12:12 vfernandes yes tcohen
12:13 tcohen hmm
12:13 vfernandes i've checked that the value of the enrolmentperioddate when filling enrolmentperiod is empty... but the input->{enrolmentperioddate} is '' and gives error in the sql query for adding the category
12:13 vfernandes DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Incorrect date value: '' for column 'enrolmentperioddate' at row 1 at /KEEPS/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/categorie.pl line 174.
12:16 tcohen do u have some JS on your intranet?
12:16 vfernandes yes
12:16 tcohen i mean, have you tweaked your staff interface in some way?
12:17 vfernandes some things, but I can remove the js and test
12:18 tcohen could you send me a screenshot of how you fill everything to reproduce the problem?
12:19 vfernandes the problem is not JS...
12:19 vfernandes i've tested without it and the problem happens :/
12:19 vfernandes yes I can send...
12:20 tcohen does the way you fill the new category form differ from my screenshot?
12:21 vfernandes http://snag.gy/qhfI0.jpg
12:25 vfernandes i've tried in another 3.12.X installation, and everything worked fine
12:25 vfernandes so the problem is only in this server
12:29 vfernandes why input->{enrolmentperioddate} is ''? shouldn't be null?
12:32 vfernandes tcohen could be any perl package?
12:35 vfernandes updating CGI...
12:36 vfernandes didn't work
13:00 francharb morning
13:04 tcohen vfernandes: unfortunately I cannot reproduce the problm
13:22 oleonard Hi #koha
13:22 cait could it be the diacritics?
13:22 cait wild guess...
13:22 cait hi oleonard :)
13:24 tcohen using diacritics doesn't reproduce the problem either
13:24 tcohen hi oleonard
13:47 druthb o/
13:47 druthb @wunder 77098
13:47 huginn druthb: The current temperature in WEST UNIVERSITY, HOUSTON, Texas is 3.7°C (7:47 AM CST on January 14, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
13:49 tcohen hi druthb!
13:49 druthb hi, tcohen. :)
14:19 oleonard I thought I was fixing a bug when I took the focus *off* the add barcode field, but now Bug 11325.
14:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11325 minor, P5 - low, ---, scrosby000, Failed QA , Focus not on "Add Item" in Lists
14:20 oleonard At least we have some empirical evidence that the field is actually used.
14:20 * oleonard had his doubts
14:21 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
14:21 druthb Hi, mtompset
14:22 mtompset oleonard: Wouldn't it be better to create a fresh bug to solve the map projection name rather than add another patch on a bug fix which has already been pushed to master?
14:22 mtompset Greetings, druthb. :)
14:22 oleonard I know, I blatantly broke the rules with that one mtompset. I couldn't bring myself the file a new bug.
14:23 * oleonard sobs, "It was just one 'n' !"
14:26 cait :)
14:35 mtompset oleonard: A single letter can make a huge difference.
14:35 mtompset I've signed off your 1 letter change patch.
14:41 oleonard Thanks mtompset
14:41 mtompset Reviewing all those spelling changes nearly caused me to pass out with low blood sugar levels. :P
14:42 mtompset I can only imagine the fun you had finding them.
14:52 tcohen hi mtompset
14:53 mtompset Greetings, tcohen
15:06 druthb drojf!
15:07 cait drojf!
15:08 drojf druthb! cait!
15:09 druthb drojf, I saw where cait used my pointy stick on you over the weekend. That was an unauthorized use of the pointy stick.
15:10 rambutan well don't leave it laying out on the coffee table where she can get to it
15:11 drojf lol druthb
15:12 * druthb puts it in the shoulder-holster she wears.
15:12 oleonard They hand those out with new drivers licenses in Texas right?
15:13 druthb Nope. This one is hand-made, carved it m'self.
15:13 druthb oh, the shoulder-holster? yeah, you get that for free with being Texian.
15:20 * druthb blames talljoy
15:20 * talljoy lowers her head in shame
15:20 druthb :P
15:49 cait ... druthb - can i get a backdated permission?
15:50 druthb What did drojf do to deserve a poke?
15:51 cait i don't remember
15:51 cait probably being not responsive
15:51 cait had to check if he was still alive
15:53 * oleonard reminds himself not to look dead around cait
15:53 cait lol
15:56 * drojf looks very alive
16:02 druthb I dunno, cait. That's a pretty shady use of the pointy stick. But I'll give you a pass, this time.
16:05 reiveune bye
16:11 NCARLib anyone around this morning?
16:12 gmcharlt NCARLib: what's up?
16:12 NCARLib Oh hey Galen! How goes it?
16:12 NCARLib Quick question...
16:12 NCARLib Overdue notices...
16:12 wahanui overdue notices are working.
16:12 oleonard Hush wahanui
16:13 NCARLib Current schedule is 90, 180, and 270 days
16:13 NCARLib Sometimes I find myself looking at a patron record, with lots of overdues, and I don't feel like waiting for the next autosend
16:13 NCARLib I want to send overdue notice manually right then and there.
16:14 NCARLib The larger question is, where do I go to add this to a Koha wishlist? (or see whether someone has already added it)
16:14 cait it's currently not possible to do it manually
16:14 gmcharlt NCARLib: interesting idea for an enhancement
16:14 gmcharlt one place to put it is in the bugs database (http://bugs.koha-community.org/)
16:15 NCARLib okay
16:15 NCARLib I'll take a look
16:15 NCARLib thanks
16:15 gmcharlt setting the "severity" as "enhancement"
16:15 NCARLib understood
16:15 NCARLib I seem to recall having done something like this before...it's been awhile. thanks for the reminder.
16:16 cait i think that used to be something like that long ago. hm.
16:16 gmcharlt searching it may also turn up whether somebody else has ask for it, in which case you could add a comment or a vote in support of the idea
16:16 cait but i can#t find the bug i am thinking about (the usual problem)
16:16 NCARLib searching...
16:16 wahanui rumour has it searching is not working
16:16 * druthb pokes wahanui with the pointy stick
16:16 oleonard wahanui you're not helping
16:16 wahanui oleonard: i'm not following you...
16:16 oleonard wahanui: You should follow me on Twitter.
16:16 wahanui oleonard: what?
16:17 oleonard wahanui: You know, the Tweets. All the cool kids are doing it.
16:17 wahanui OK, oleonard.
16:17 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie
16:17 wahanui :)
16:23 NCARLib okay, new question...Adminitration -> Patron Categories
16:24 NCARLib I changed default messaging preferences for a patron category
16:24 NCARLib existing patron records in that category seem not to've been affected
16:24 NCARLib perhaps it only applies to newly created patron records going forward?
16:24 gmcharlt NCARLib: right. If I remember correctly, there's a job on the server that can be run to update existing patrons
16:24 * gmcharlt checks
16:24 NCARLib (hate that phrase 'going forward' but had to use it)
16:25 gmcharlt here we go
16:25 Joubu NCARLib: yes, only new patron is affected
16:25 gmcharlt for the record, the script to force existing patrons to use the new defaults is misc/maintenance/borrowers-force-messaging-defaults
16:26 Joubu you can use the script misc/maintenance/borrowers-force-messaging-defaults for modifying existing patrons
16:26 Joubu ok, too late :)
16:26 NCARLib ah, good to know
16:26 gmcharlt NCARLib: in your case, you can open a support ticket if you want us to run it for you
16:26 NCARLib i shall do precisely that. thanks Galen!
16:28 mtompset NCARLib: 'going forward' could be 'on a forward basis'. ;)
16:29 NCARLib ha, I'll see how that goes over in the next mtg.
16:29 NCARLib or 'in a future way'
16:29 NCARLib 'post-now'
16:38 cait bye all
16:38 mtompset post-now... maybe... future way... no.
16:38 mtompset Bye, cait.
16:41 fridolin bye
16:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11502: make library filter in "Holds To Pull" more precise <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e96d73aa9f462fb653b8b67d7d5bff81dab94be7> / Bug 11537: Increasing test coverage for C4::Log <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ebca4f3409e1341be25ab7c11af4de736c11ff2> / Bug 11535: sanitize input from patron self-registration form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb
17:03 Joubu bye
17:43 rangi any suggestions on an easy bug to write a patch for, i need one or 2 more, for the academy students
17:43 * rangi goes to make breakfast
17:55 gmcharlt rangi: maybe 11363, 5002, 8085, 8168, 11324, or 11231
18:03 tcohen bye #koha
18:04 mtompset bye tcohen.
18:08 cait rangi: maybe the 2 trnaslation bugs from yesterday?
18:08 cait 11487, 11488
18:33 rangi Awesome thanks
18:35 rangi @later tell tcohen you are doing great, thanks
18:35 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
18:41 pianohacker yo
18:41 druthb hi, pianohacker!
18:41 pianohacker hey druthb :)
18:44 rangi tcohen : thanks for the email. It is excellent
18:48 rangi Bbiab gotta get the room ready
18:59 tcohen @later tell rangi i'm glad to hear that
18:59 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
19:17 rangi hi again
19:17 rangi hey do we have a wiki macro for bugs ?
19:18 cait no idea what you mean :) guess is no :)
19:18 rangi some way to go {{bug 21323}}
19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21323 was not found.
19:18 rangi and have it create the link
19:18 rangi magnuse would probably know :)
19:19 cait we should totally have that :)
19:19 cait it's one of the features i taught my dokuwiki
19:20 rangi yeah i thought we did
19:20 rangi but i might be wrong
19:20 cait i think i haven't seen it on our mediawiki so far
19:20 cait not sure if there was something on the first wiki
19:21 ibeardslee rangi: steal and adapt off the catalyst wiki?
19:24 * magnuse waves
19:24 druthb magnuse!
19:24 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
19:24 magnuse druthb!
19:24 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
19:24 magnuse :-)
19:25 rangi yeah magnuse !!
19:25 rangi do you know
19:25 rangi do we have a wiki macro for bugs on the koha wiki?
19:26 magnuse kia ora rangi
19:26 magnuse yeah, i think i made on
19:26 magnuse but what is it called...
19:26 rangi yay my brain isnt broken
19:26 rangi yeah i though you had
19:26 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Template:BZ
19:27 oleonard Nice.
19:27 rangi ta
19:28 rangi bugzilla macro is {{BZ|xxxx}}
19:28 cait !
19:28 cait cool
19:28 pianohacker magnuse++
19:29 magnuse almost 2 years old :-)
19:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11537: (follow-up) mock C4::Context::preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc0a201bd9a301a05b52bfd50fd4024c68749feb>
19:32 magnuse ooh, t::lib::Mocks would look pretty with a little bit of POD
19:35 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Catalyst_Academy#Bugs
19:35 rangi if anyone has time
19:35 cait hm
19:36 rangi 6 unit test patches need sign off
19:36 cait no more academy patches in my qa queue?
19:36 cait heh
19:36 cait i guess we were thinking the ame
19:39 cait good morning aleishaa and academy students :)
19:40 cait gmcharlt: reading your tweet - what brought it on? :)
19:40 gmcharlt cait: just a joke I made with somebody else that I realized was too good not to share more broadly
19:40 cait aah :)
19:41 pianohacker such violent release managing! My delicate sensibilities are quite offended
19:43 rangi gmcharlt++ thanks for the followup
19:45 magnuse rangi: bug 11539 seems to be signed off by another student but the status in bz is not changed - does that signoff not count?
19:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11539 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , C4::Barcodes::PrinterConfig does not appear to be being used anywhere
19:45 magnuse kia ora Roman_ emmah t-houlks
19:45 * cait waves
19:47 Roman_ hey
19:48 magnuse so, if y'all were hiring a koha developer, what skillz wuold you look for *besides* the library specific ones? i can think of DBI, DBIx::Class, Template Toolkit, Plack, modern object oriented programming - anything else?
19:48 oleonard JavaScript
19:48 wahanui JavaScript is, like, super, super evil
19:49 magnuse html5?
19:49 magnuse thanks oleonard
19:49 rangi TDD
19:49 oleonard wahanui: forget JavaScript
19:49 wahanui oleonard: I forgot javascript
19:49 rangi test driven developement
19:49 jcamins Depending what you need the developer for, CSS/LESS might be necessary.
19:50 gmcharlt magnuse: experience working with FLOSS communities would be a plus; at the very least, experience working with other developers
19:50 oleonard wahanui: JavaScript is not super super evil.
19:50 wahanui OK, oleonard.
19:50 cait gmcharlt++
19:50 cait perl? ;)
19:50 cait I guess that was the obvious one :)
19:50 magnuse yeah, that is sort of a given :-)
19:51 rangi magnuse: and of course communication and being nice
19:51 magnuse tdd and floss are duly noted
19:51 cait baking good cookies
19:51 rangi i would always rather hire nice than smart
19:51 gmcharlt also, proven ability to learn new stuff
19:51 magnuse rangi: nah, who needs that ;-)
19:51 cait and willing to ship them at least within europe
19:51 rangi nice and smart is best
19:51 rangi but nice > smart
19:51 magnuse :-)
19:51 rangi you can teach other stuff, if people are jerks, its hard to unteach that
19:51 cait yeah but if you have someone who is nice but can't learn...
19:52 rangi still better
19:52 gmcharlt cait: I can just imagine the list of perquisites
19:52 rangi than someone who is smart, and pisses off everyone else
19:52 gmcharlt - one oven available for use...
19:52 rangi at least the nice one jsut derails themselves :)
19:52 cait :)
19:52 magnuse lol
19:53 cait gmcharlt: lives in a beautiful city and is willing to organize kohacon? :)
19:53 jcamins gmcharlt: man, that would be a great perq. I hope an oven is available at my next job.
19:53 rangi :)
19:53 gmcharlt also, FWIW... I really don't see somebody who isn't fluent in Engilsh being supereffective in the community
19:53 * cait hides
19:53 rangi khall++ #gonna sign off some academy patches
19:53 jcamins gmcharlt: even better... "oven and All The Flour and Sugar You Want."
19:54 oleonard I think new Koha developers should be fabulously wealthy and willing to sponsor travel to KohaCon
19:54 cait hehe
19:54 magnuse gmcharlt: good point about the english, thanks
19:55 gmcharlt and to be clear, I'm not defining English fluency to mean "this person is the second coming of William Shakespeare"
19:56 cait he was not very easily undestandable...
19:56 magnuse cait: verily a goode pointe
19:56 gmcharlt :)
19:57 gmcharlt s/Shakespeare/Shakespere who got updated on modern idioms/ :-P
19:57 magnuse ah, but did shakespeare write shakespeare?
19:58 jcamins magnuse: more important question: are you offering unlimited oven, flour, and sugar for the developer?
19:58 gmcharlt magnuse: he did. and he wrote Bacon, too! ;)
19:58 cait jcamins: don't forget the eggs
19:59 * druthb perks. Bacon?
19:59 jcamins cait: good point.
19:59 druthb wahanui: bacon?
19:59 wahanui bacon is good, bacon is nice
19:59 jcamins magnuse: also, you should offer unlimited eggs.
19:59 jcamins And butter.
19:59 jcamins Actually, thinking about this... in Norway, butter is of primary importance.
19:59 cait magnuse: are we helping?
19:59 druthb and toast, with orange marmalade, or lingonberry jam.
19:59 jcamins There was a butter crisis, you know!
19:59 cait jcamins: indeed!
19:59 pianohacker indubidubidubidubitably
19:59 magnuse there was!
20:00 magnuse cait: yup, tons :-)
20:00 pianohacker oh man lingonberries are fantastic!
20:00 * oleonard writes down, "Must... like... lingonberries"
20:00 oleonard Strange requirement though pianohacker
20:01 druthb pianohacker speaks truth.
20:01 * cait read klingonberries...
20:02 pianohacker eh, you can teach someone Template::Toolkit, but if they don't like lingonberries?
20:02 cait hehe
20:02 pianohacker or qapla'berries?
20:03 rangi ok academy students
20:03 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Catalyst_Academy#Catalyst_Academy_2014
20:06 rangi magnuse++
20:06 magnuse rangi: 11545 is signed off
20:07 magnuse sweet as
20:08 * wizzyrea waves
20:08 * magnuse waves to wizzyrea
20:10 rangi aleishaa and emmah
20:10 rangi you need to run
20:10 rangi git fetch
20:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11503: [Follow-up] fix another typo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c67d182ea718a37032edabbe000933776baa251>
20:11 rangi git checkout origin/master
20:12 rangi aleishaa: git bz apply 11541
20:12 rangi emmah: git bz apply 11540
20:13 rangi choose yes
20:13 rangi git show
20:16 rangi git commit --amend -s
20:16 rangi (for the channel we did test these before signing off)
20:17 cait bug 11542 passed qa
20:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11542 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, romanwilton, Signed Off , Increasing test coverage for C4::Print
20:17 rangi git bz attach -e 11541 HEAD^
20:18 magnuse HEAD^ with the ^?
20:18 cait magnuse: 2 patches, total i think, that goes 1 more back
20:19 magnuse ah, ok
20:21 magnuse does anyone know off the tops of their heads how often packages are built from master (a.k.a. squeeze-dev)?
20:22 rangi community++
20:24 magnuse yeah community++ !
20:25 cait aaand... bug 11545 also passed qa
20:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11545 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Signed Off , Increasing test coverage for C4::Languages
20:25 magnuse cait++
20:26 cait magnuse++ your sign off :)
20:26 cait who is this magnus_away?
20:26 magnuse that's my bip which i can't figure out how to connect to from my new laptop :-/
20:34 magnuse any good foodz, talljoy?
20:35 talljoy oh yes. pad thai nom nom nom
20:37 cait bug11539 - passed qa
20:37 rangi Roman_: http://paste.koha-community.org/72
20:37 cait bug 11539
20:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11539 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Passed QA , C4::Barcodes::PrinterConfig does not appear to be being used anywhere
20:39 magnuse talljoy: yay!
20:39 talljoy it was fab!
20:40 talljoy but now i am left with the bitter taste of a project out of control.
20:40 magnuse ouch!
20:40 * talljoy expresses angst
20:40 * cait sends cookies
20:40 cait hm
20:40 talljoy time to get out the straightjacket and strap these guys in
20:40 * cait also sends a yoga dvd
20:40 * magnuse pictures "the scream" by munch
20:40 talljoy ^ about right
20:41 rambutan click on "shop". The site says: "Wartungsarbeiten"
20:42 rambutan which means "wait a bit"
20:42 cait rambutan: maintenance work?
20:43 rambutan donno, I was just checking out "Iron", having become (more and more) concerned about Google Chrome lately
20:43 emmah I'm looking at bug 11488, I know the following text is not being picked up by the translation tool any hints on what I can do?
20:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11488 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Untranslatable warning "Are you sure you want to write off ..."
20:44 cait hi emmah
20:44 cait let me take a look
20:44 rambutan http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php
20:44 cait I think the problem is that the translations scripts don't pick up the string correctly, when it's 'inside' a confirm
20:44 cait you could define a variable for the text and then use that in the confirm
20:45 cait let me see, maybe i can find an example
20:45 emmah Ok thanks!
20:46 magnuse cait++
20:46 * magnuse calls it a day - have fun #koha! (and especially all you lucky academy students!)
20:50 emmah http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Catalyst_Academy#Catalyst_Academy_2014
20:50 francesca thanks!
20:52 cait emmah: still searching :) one more moment
20:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11545: (follow-up) move Languages.t to t/db_dependent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53d5a8ba53f7b98363a07f380869e99fa4d93447> / Bug 11545: Increasing test coverage for Languages.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a52919a222c212dcd6a1749f76f7944bbf3d3373> / bug 11542: Increase test coverage for Print.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a
20:52 francesca oh I have signed off on bug 11312
20:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11312 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add span to facets (for css selection)
20:53 francesca yup thats the one
20:54 cait emmah: found an example i think
20:54 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/patroncards/manage.tt;hb=5c67d182ea718a37032edabbe000933776baa251#l10
20:54 emmah Cool, thanks!
20:54 cait i think you don't have to split the message up like it's there - can leave it like it is
20:55 cait the important bit is keeping the _("")
21:02 cait bug 11541 passed qa as well
21:02 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11539: removing 2 unused files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=397d95821cca73927a6bb51c57b075af6a95bd10>
21:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11541 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Passed QA , Increasing test coverage for C4::Installer
21:02 cait can barely keep up!
21:04 pastebot "emmah" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "for cait, is this right?" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/73
21:05 cait emmah: almost :)
21:05 cait add an _ :)
21:05 cait var msg = _("
21:05 emmah where?
21:05 emmah oh right
21:05 cait what you can do to check if your change works
21:06 cait is run the translation script
21:06 cait and then see if the string appears in the file that has all the translations
21:06 cait not sure i can explain that well from here, maybe someone oculd show you
21:06 emmah does there need to be an " at the end of the confirm message
21:07 cait it should be _("...... ");
21:07 cait what you pasted looks alright
21:07 cait butif you can give it a quick test
21:07 cait do you know your way around koha a bit?
21:08 cait this is the message that would appear if you write off a fine that a patron has on its account
21:09 cait hope i make any sense... it's getting a bit late here :)
21:10 emmah yeah you do, liz is here to help
21:10 cait oh excellent :)
21:11 kathryn hi emmah I'm up on level 7 :)
21:11 kathryn hi (goodnight?) cait :)
21:11 cait kathryn: guess i can't go to sleep before i have qa'd all the academy patches ;)
21:12 kathryn well, if you want to break signoff/QA records ;)
21:13 kathryn cait: hmm confusing in this context - I mean break the record, like the Guinness book of records!
21:14 cait :)
21:15 wizzyrea cait - do you have advice on package installing translations? they are installed but not showing in the interface
21:15 wizzyrea (I've never had that happen before)
21:15 cait oh
21:15 wizzyrea sorry I know you're really busy
21:15 cait that's why i washoping someone on your side could help
21:16 cait not sure about permissions and things with packages
21:16 cait what you want to check is in the english templates that the confirm still shows up correctly
21:16 cait so regression test - it didn't break :)
21:16 wizzyrea right - we did that
21:16 cait and then normaly you'd run perl translate update de-DE (or any other language codeof course :))
21:16 cait from misc/translator
21:17 cait and then you can check the po file in misc/translator/po/de-DE-i....
21:17 cait like open it in vi and see if you can find the string, because it won't be translated yet
21:17 wizzyrea ok cool thanks
21:17 cait i checked, ti was not in the po file before
21:17 cait btw .... bug 11540 passed qa
21:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11540 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Passed QA , Increasing test coverage for C4::Charset
21:18 wizzyrea yay!
21:23 cait ... and bug 11544
21:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Passed QA , increasing test coverage for C4::Installer_PerlModule
21:26 hfung How can I change the “Date Due†column into the “Location†column; and add a signature column in the serial routing slip? Our library routes out journals and magazines to staff members in different divisions. The staff members do not need to return the journals and magazines to the library. They just need to forward to the next person according to the location. That is why we need a “location†column. Our library is using the Koha 3.1
21:33 cait hfung: currently this can't be chanced without changing Koha's code
21:33 cait changed
21:33 cait you could file a bug
21:34 francesca hey is anyone working on bug 11231?
21:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11231 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , notes should be reservenotes in pendingreserves.pl and reserveratios.pl
21:46 MrAgent075 Would anyone know where the Error Log can be found?
21:46 rangi MrAgent075: did you isntall witn packages?
21:46 rangi if so /var/log/koha/<sitename>/
21:47 MrAgent075 Okay, I will install those packages.
21:53 cait good night all :)
21:57 francesca I'm working on bug 11231, but there aren't any notes displayed on pending reserves that I can see, so am a little bit confused. Any ideas as to why this is?
21:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11231 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , notes should be reservenotes in pendingreserves.pl and reserveratios.pl
22:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 11544: increasing test coverage for Installer_PerlModules.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1487949011452ca0852f6a068c73670ef6dd9430> / Bug 11541: (follow-up) move Installer.t to t/db_dependent <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=19b5ea868bf18883d188b6fad5faae80c5fa9c46> / Bug 11541: (follow-up) update tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;
22:32 gmcharlt francesca: good catch. in the pending reseves report, the notes were originally meant to be taken from the bib record
22:32 gmcharlt however, that's not necessarily all that useful, so the notes were removed from the template (but not the query) in commit a13c0db
22:33 gmcharlt it would be reasonble to remove the notes column from the SQL query entirely
22:37 * MrAgent075 has one bug for the Catalyst Academy class to look at and hopefully solve. Help has been included in comment. http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5002
22:37 huginn 04Bug 5002: minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No error message if category code already exists
22:46 rangi right, so everyone has finished their bugs eh?
22:48 rangi yo peeps
22:48 rangi take a look at
22:48 cjh yo
22:48 rangi http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7ece9a79b20e7898022c5439f854e9d45e108c7
23:02 rangi merllissia: can you paste that url of that good list we found for bootstrap3?
23:03 eythian rangi: your desk just gained a letter or card or something.
23:03 rangi oh, probably stupid spam, i bet it calls me a project manager
23:06 eythian You and Katrina need a support group.
23:10 merllissia http://paste.koha-community.org/74
23:18 wizzyrea MrAgent075: bug 11250 maybe?
23:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11250 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , "too many holds" message appears inappropriately