Time Nick Message 00:00 dcook I wonder what happens for anonymous suggestions..I suppose you need to have an anonymous patron set up so probably just failed emails 00:00 dcook Or you'd have the same error if folks left the syspref at 0 00:01 eythian dcook: that's what you have to do, yes 00:01 eythian Though I think it doesn't allow anon suggestions if you don't have an anon patron (IIRC) 00:01 eythian as in, the UI for it doesn't show up. 00:02 dcook Something like that 00:02 dcook Or rather... 00:02 dcook I think you can make anonymous suggestions, but they don't appear in the management UI 00:02 dcook Which is a bit problematic...(at least, that was in 3.8.0) 00:02 * dcook is really looking forward to upgrading at some point... 00:02 eythian I remember looking at this some time ago, so my memory may be hazy. 00:02 eythian it would have been around 3.8 that I was looking into it 00:03 dcook I suppose the easiest thing to do is just check if the borrowernumber is valid before trying to send the email 00:08 jcamins dcook: or add an ON DELETE CASCADE to message_queue, since the manual already says that if you haven't set up an anonymous patron, you can't use certain anonymous features. 00:09 dcook O_o 00:10 dcook Wouldn't those be two separate things? 00:10 jcamins Yes, I'm suggesting that the anonymous patron is a non-issue wrt to the problem you ran into, and the problem you ran into can be solved by deleting messages in the queue when a borrower is deleted. 00:11 dcook Actually, message_queue already has a cascading delete for the borrowernumber FK. Hmm.. 00:11 jcamins There we go, then. Very sensible. 00:11 dcook Ah, but that's not the problem 00:11 * gmcharlt would personally prefer that suggestedby just be made nullable and an on delete set null FK to borrowers.borrowernumber 00:11 dcook ^^ 00:11 dcook That would do it 00:12 * dcook thinks this also makes the most sense 00:12 jcamins Oh, I misunderstood the problem. 00:12 * jcamins is writing a presentation, and just skimmed. 00:12 jcamins I thought the problem was a stuck e-mail for a patron that was deleted. 00:12 dcook No worries, jcamins 00:13 dcook Hmm 00:13 gaetan_B bye ! 00:13 dcook I might make a local stopgap in the meantime but also report a Bugzilla issue for this one 00:14 dcook It would probably need to be checked a bit more thoroughly to see if it would cause issues anywhere else with suggestions 00:15 gmcharlt yeah, there's one obvious question of what a library wants to happen to an active suggestion made by a patron that's to be deleted 00:15 dcook Yeah, I was pondering that as well. 00:15 gmcharlt on the other hand, if a patron has made a recent suggestion, that might be reason to consider them active enough to avoid the automatic pruge 00:16 dcook Automatic purge? Do we have one of those? 00:17 gmcharlt tools/cleanborrower.pl 00:18 dcook (Snap, I think there is a Cyanogenmod build for my 2.5 year old smart phone...that's awesome) 00:18 gmcharlt and misc/cronjobs/delete_patrons.pl 00:18 dcook Huh, I knew about cleanborrower.pl, but I didn't know about delete_patrons.pl 00:19 dcook I didn't realize that cleanborrower was based on borrowing dates. That could be a bit problematic as well.. 00:19 jcamins What with it not taking into account electronic resources? Yeah. 00:20 dcook Indeed 00:20 dcook Casual use of the library as well, although that one is more difficult to track 00:21 dcook (Damn it. Now I really want to install CyanogenMod on my phone, but...my new one hasn't arrived yet...) 00:21 jcamins That one's not as much of a problem, though, I think... if you haven't come into the library in two years, you probably would understand if they wanted you to confirm your address, etc. 00:21 dcook (Ah, based on Gingerbread anyway, so it might not be much of an improvement, anyway.) 00:22 dcook jcamins: Good point. 00:57 drojf in master, the second i start typing in the global sysprefs search field, the focus jumps to the search field on top of the page. can anyone reproduce that? i did not find a bug for it and i'm not sure if it is a local problem 01:02 dcook I'll take a look, drojf 01:02 drojf thanks dcook 01:03 dcook Erm. Just give me a minute. 01:06 dcook drojf: fwiw, what browser are you using? 01:07 drojf iceweasel… some ancient firefox on debian 01:07 dcook hehe 01:07 drojf 17. lol. i think they are at something like 28 01:07 dcook Yeah, I think my Firefox on here is 26 or so 01:07 drojf i should try a later one, good point 01:08 dcook Ah, I was just curious because I tend to use Chrome/Chromium almost exclusively 01:08 drojf on the other hand, we want so support IE7 :P 01:08 dcook That we do 01:08 * dcook cringes 01:08 dcook I'm one of the pro supporting IE7 folks :p 01:08 dcook Mostly because we have clients who have to use it :( 01:09 drojf what other reason would there be… ;) 01:09 * dcook wonders if there are any actual library users using IE 01:09 dcook Or if it's all library staff 01:09 drojf does the staff client work with IE7? 01:09 eythian is IE7 still supported? 01:09 drojf i thought that is only for the OPAC 01:09 rangi nope 01:09 eythian like, by microsoft 01:09 rangi nope 01:09 rangi in fact they tell you to use firefox 01:09 rangi if you cant upgrade from xp yet 01:10 drojf that is why the FOSS scene should keep it alive ^^ 01:10 drojf or even http://saveie6.com/ 01:10 * dcook is still bitter about the whole IE 11 thing 01:10 dcook Let's make it harder for you to develop for our inferior software by making it say that it's better than it is... 01:10 eythian what IE11 thing? 01:11 dcook They've changed the appName to Netscape from Microsoft Internet Explorer 01:11 dcook They've also removed the MSIE from wherever that was 01:11 dcook Admittedly, feature detection is better than browser detection, but sometimes you just have to do the latter 01:12 eythian oh right 01:12 * dcook is finally rebased and upgraded 01:12 rangi i dont think the project needs to support ie7 01:12 dcook Ok, so what was that again, drojf? 01:12 dcook Is this from "/cgi-bin/koha/admin/admin-home.pl"? 01:13 rangi if support companies have to, that's their problem 01:13 rangi (we currently have to, for a little while longer for at least one client) 01:13 dcook rangi: Touché 01:13 dcook I should put together a profile of clients we need to support ie7 for 01:13 rangi and charge them double 01:14 dcook Indeed 01:14 rangi we actually do when it comes to design, not double, but it will cost more 01:14 rangi cos it takes a lot more work 01:14 dcook I think that's reasonable 01:14 dcook Such more more work 01:14 rangi yep 01:14 dcook Such = so 01:14 dcook s/more/much/ 01:14 rangi heh 01:14 * dcook can't type today apparently 01:15 drojf dcook: yep, on cgi-bin/koha/admin/admin-home.pl if i choose the search field under 'global system preferences', focus changes to the search field on top 01:15 dcook I did a spell check of an article I wrote without spellcheck though...no spelling errors. I was happy with that. 01:15 dcook drojf: I just tried it and it seems fine :/ 01:15 drojf *focus changes when i press any key 01:15 drojf ok 01:15 drojf i have no userjs, i just checked 01:15 dcook That's in Chrome on Windows 8 01:15 drojf oh 01:16 drojf its a translation thing. i changed to english to see how the field is named correctly, and it works 01:16 drojf :) 01:16 dcook Glad you figured it out. Sucks that it exists :/ 01:16 drojf my translation files are just not up to date 01:16 drojf that's fine 01:16 drojf usually oi dont use german in master 01:16 drojf not sure why it was enabled 01:17 drojf thanks for trying! that really confused me 01:18 dcook np :) 01:22 rangi tracked it down 01:22 rangi it never tries to reconnect 01:22 rangi (this is my Zconn thing) 01:23 rangi under cgi its fine, script dies, new connection 01:23 rangi under plack, timesout from inactivity 01:23 rangi new connection is never made 01:35 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 01:38 drojf looks like you can basically install everything on hetzner root servers. cool. i guess i'll start with a regular debian and multiple instances anyway in case anything comes out of that "join the koha hosting business" thing 01:39 rangi yeah im using hetzner 01:40 drojf root server or vps? 01:40 rangi vps 01:40 rangi http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/ <-- thats on there 01:40 rangi amongst other things 01:42 drojf cool 01:44 drojf the vps are only single core so i was thinking of a root server. i had two libraries ask about hosting and that seems much more powerful than two vps 01:44 rangi yep 01:46 dcook join the koha hosting business! 01:46 * dcook thinks rangi has servers all over the world 01:46 rangi pretty much 01:47 * dcook should really join in on this cloud thang 01:49 drojf i tried to tell libraries to host their own koha for quite a while now. i accept that is not for everyone, and i also would not mind to be able to continue working with koha after my contract ends in march. so, well, if they insist, i might host it. ^^ 01:50 eythian We've found that (to generalise) there are two main schools of thought for libraries: those (often regional councils) who must in-house everything they can, and those (often government) who outsource everything they can. Probably to avoid their own IT people. 01:50 eythian So for the latter, we host, for the former, we just support and they host. 01:51 drojf avoid_own_it_people++ (unfortunately those that should be avoided are the ones that are used) 01:52 eythian In general, we've found the council IT to be pretty good. These are small councils, so might have just a few people, all of whom are competent. 01:52 drojf but yes. i was thinking of support for people that host in-house but need the certain 'X' on top of that. now that there seems to be demand for the other way round i consider doing that too 01:53 drojf [off] my impression is that university it people can be really annoying, the less they know what they are doing 01:53 rangi IT depts, ruining it for everyone since 1982 01:53 eythian I can believe that. Universities tend to get quite political internally. 01:53 drojf [off] because university non-it people think it people know everything. and it people want to keep it that way. but they don't. they do not know a lot :/ 01:54 dcook [off] ^^ so much that 01:54 dcook [off] So much of what I write is on the demystification of technology for non-it people 01:54 dcook Outsourcing makes a lot of sense in a lot of ways though 01:54 dcook Depending on the price 01:55 * dcook was going to use the example of the people who mow his lawn, then he remembered that he's actually being ripped off for that and that it's not a good example at all 01:56 drojf if there is no infrastructure available, it may cost you time and money worth months of hosting just to get the right stuff. and then you need to get it working ^^ 01:56 dcook Totes 01:56 dcook And maintained 01:56 drojf and you can do a lot of weird things when installing koha without any idea what you are doing 01:59 rangi outsourcing is a lot safer with floss 01:59 drojf [off] and insist that you have done everything right does not help. especially if that means i did something wrong. which i did not. and i can prove it. 02:00 drojf sure. just having the option of switching the vendor is fantastic 02:00 drojf try that with a closed library system… 02:01 rangi also 02:01 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=305viYB-G1U 02:01 rangi 91 years old, and still awesome! 02:02 dcook I have no idea what I'm looking at right now 02:02 * dcook says in reference to the video 02:03 dcook Ah, apparently I had Mogwai on in the background too 02:03 dcook That might've contributed.. 02:03 drojf i had headphones plugged in and wondered why he's whispering 02:06 * dcook debates staying in or going out for lunch... 02:06 drojf yeah he's cool. if i ever make it to >90 i will cover that song :D 02:07 rangi :) 02:08 rangi so thats the lounge -> metal 02:08 rangi and kinda going back the other way 02:08 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLAbAp5tbU0 02:10 drojf that's horrible. in a fascinating kind of way. 02:10 rangi hehe 02:38 eythian Richard Cheese is pretty good. 02:45 dcook Richard Cheese is the best. 02:46 * mtompset tacks on a "in my opinion" implicitly. ;) 02:46 dcook I think he still might be touring too.. 02:46 dcook Nope. Objective fact, mtompset. :p 02:46 mtompset Well, best... No. Pretty good. Yes. 02:51 eythian Yeah, it's objective, not opinion. 03:00 mtompset You can't say best, unless you have listened to everything in the universe. 03:02 eythian Can too 03:06 mtompset How can you definitively know something is the best without knowing everything? 03:07 mtompset probably could get it within a confidence interval range with limited knowledge, but 100% certainty requires 100% knowledge. 03:09 eythian I just know. 03:09 mtompset I admire your faith, eythian, but I can't say that I agree with it. 03:10 mtompset Unless you care to define your criteria for knowing, in which case I may have to agree based on definition if your criteria fit. 03:11 eythian You don't have to agree, but that will make you wrong, of course. 03:11 eythian Everybody who I know is right always agrees with me. 03:12 * mtompset laughs, "Okay." 03:13 mtompset On an aside, I've almost made the News by Branch patch split into nice parts. YAY! 03:13 mtompset Should be done in 24 hours. YAY! 03:20 Brooke o/ 03:20 dcook \o 03:22 mtompset Greetings, Brooke. 03:22 Brooke how's it going? 03:23 mtompset Oh, and belated greetings eythian dcook rangi. 03:23 mtompset wizzyrea: You here? 03:23 mtompset @seen wizzyrea 03:23 huginn mtompset: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 46 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> 3.6 was lovely and stable 03:25 mtompset I was going to ask about quick slips and news. 03:25 mtompset (since I'm in the midst of tweaking the final stages on my patches) 03:27 ebegin hey #koha ! 03:29 mtompset Greetings, ebegin. 03:29 dcook hey ebegin :) 03:29 mtompset Comment ça va à Montréal? :) 03:30 ebegin mtompset, Je suis à Ottawa en ce moment 03:30 mtompset Ah, across the river. :) 03:31 mtompset How far is Ottawa from Montreal? 03:31 ebegin yep :-) We (with francharb) giving a training to a new client nearby, on the Quebec side 03:31 ebegin mtompset, about 2 hours 03:32 mtompset So basically a good days drive from here to Montreal then. :) 03:32 mtompset ~8 hours. 03:32 ebegin yep. I did it once in order to spend few days in Toronto area 03:36 dcook Ahh, je pense que j'ai trouvé un bon méthode pour changer les langues avec mon clavier dans Windows... 03:36 dcook \o/ 03:38 ebegin dcook, ça semble fonctionner :) 03:38 dcook D'accord :) 03:39 ebegin dcook, usually, you can set multiple languages / keyboard and switch them using a key combinason. I use Ctrl + Shift 03:39 dcook Yeah, that's what I've done in the past but Windows 8 is a bit different 03:39 dcook Windows key + Space is now the default combination now 03:40 dcook (minus one of those nows..) 03:41 dcook I cannot remember if I prefer Canadian French or Canadian Multilingual Standard 03:41 dcook Possibly the former.. 03:42 dcook Ouais, certainement le premier choix. 03:43 mtompset To be honest, I just cut and paste my text from external sources. :) 03:43 dcook mtompset: You can cheat using Alt + numberpad in most cases. It doesn't work so well with the IRC clients I've used though 03:43 mtompset I used to remember the alt codes for accents. :) 03:43 ebegin dcook, It usually depends on your keybord layout 03:44 ebegin mtompset, é = alt + 130 03:44 * dcook did the majority of his 100-level French using alt + numberpad 03:44 mtompset dcook++ # you're the man! :) 03:44 dcook When I started writing essays in French for the 200/300 level courses, it was time to switch to actual keyboards though :p 03:45 dcook ebegin: Yeah, that makes sense. Usually a person can change the combination as well. 03:45 mtompset could you get the spell checker to correct your English typed words to the correct French? ;) 03:45 dcook Mmm, sometimes 03:46 dcook I was pretty careful though. Good dictionaries. 03:46 dcook I think the hardest part is remembering some of the finer intricacies of the grammar 03:46 dcook Although studying French made me understand English grammar way better.. 03:47 ebegin if you need a very good (but not free) spell checker, I recommand Antidote : www.druide.com/antidote.html‎ 03:47 * Brooke remembers how utterly intimidating a French keyboard is. 03:47 dcook ebegin: Antidote has a mobile app too, no? 03:47 ebegin Can not leave without it, even for a native french 03:47 Brooke I don't know how y'all swap back and forth without losing your bloody minds 03:47 mtompset Frustrating would be the word I use, Brooke. :) 03:47 ebegin dcook, I think so 03:48 ebegin Brooke, you means a french keyboard from France. 03:48 dcook Brooke: That's a good question. There are still a few keys I don't know in the Canadian French keyboards but overall...it seems like muscle memory 03:48 ebegin Our keyboard, in Quebec, have the same layout as the US, with minor differences for the diacritics 03:49 dcook Hmm, my browser didn't like that antidote page 03:49 Brooke ebegin: yep 03:49 mtompset Ooooo.... sweet! My patches apply to 3.14.x nicely with no changes. :) 03:49 mtompset @seen tcohen 03:49 huginn mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 58 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <tcohen> @karma 03:50 ebegin french keyboards from France are called « AZERTY » because of the first 6 letters. Other keyboards are called QWERTY, which should be the case for all people around here but BibLibers 03:51 Brooke eythian++ for subbing in for druthb 03:51 mtompset I learned about that recently, when a facebook friend of mine complained that they had thought they found a good cheap source for keyboards, but discovered they were AZERTY. 03:51 ebegin So, instead of the Q as you have, they have the A, Z replaces our W. and so on. 03:51 ebegin mtompset, we do have a store like this near my office too :) 03:52 mtompset I can imagine that touch-typists get really messed up in the head if they have to switch keyboards. 03:54 ebegin mtompset, francharb is funny when he fights its querty keyboard when he gives the training session :) 03:55 ebegin being french, he uses a azerty keyboard for years and now has to change... :) 03:55 mtompset @later tell tcohen A majority of the patches for bug 7567 can be applied against 3.14.x -- I haven't finished converting the big patch to smaller pieces yet, but all those smaller pieces there apply nicely. 03:55 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 03:56 mtompset Why doesn't he just go buy an azerty keyboard and carry it with him? 03:56 dcook Change is good ;) 03:56 wahanui dcook: that doesn't look right 03:57 dcook Ok, so wahanui doesn't like change... 03:57 eythian he really doesn't. I've been meaning to figure out why, but haven't. 03:57 ebegin change is really good 03:57 wahanui ebegin: that doesn't look right 03:58 ebegin wahanui gave up :) 03:58 wahanui ebegin: huh? 03:58 ebegin wahanui, yes, you left ;) 03:58 wahanui ebegin: sorry... 03:58 ebegin wahanui, np ;) 03:58 wahanui ebegin: excuse me? 03:59 * ebegin is not crazy, I know wahanui is a bot 03:59 ebegin btw ;) 03:59 eythian wahanui: are you a bot? 03:59 wahanui wish i knew, eythian 03:59 eythian wahanui: are \you a bot is <reply>What? No. 03:59 wahanui ...but are you a bot is <reply>http://youtu.be/-Vzw1NdSZmc... 04:00 ebegin eythian, is your name etienne ? 04:00 eythian nope 04:00 ebegin Nope, Robin ;) 04:00 eythian yep :) 04:00 mtompset http://youtu.be/v8G14REucsQ 04:00 ebegin your nick sounds like if I was saying Etienne 04:01 eythian I suppose it could. Everyone seems to pronounce it differently (and half the time, spell it differently too.) 04:01 * dcook chuckles as he reads his scrollback 04:02 mtompset What's the IPA for your name, eythian? ;) 04:02 * dcook has often wondered about the origin of eythian's name 04:02 ebegin mtompset, IPA ? 04:02 ebegin for me, IPA is Indian Pale Ale ;) 04:02 dcook hehe 04:02 ebegin hmmmm... beeeeer 04:02 * dcook prefers Indian Pale Ale to International Phonetic Alphabet 04:03 eythian mtompset: there isn't one. 04:03 dcook Already 3 o'clock here 04:03 eythian dcook: it's shrouded in mystery 04:03 mtompset http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet 04:03 dcook eythian: Naturally. That's our eythian. 04:04 mtompset Is it "eh?"-"th"-"ee"-"ann"? 04:05 ebegin mtompset, thanks ! I was not aware of that in english 04:05 eythian mtompset: that's not how I pronounce it. 04:05 eythian but it is how many others do 04:05 ebegin mtompset is canadian, so he puts Eh! everywhere :) 04:06 mtompset How do you pronounce it? 04:06 dcook hehe 04:06 ebegin so is dcook :-) 04:06 ebegin he doubles them 04:06 ebegin he he 04:06 dcook :p 04:07 dcook Living in Australia, I think I say "eh?" more than I did when I was in Canada. Subconscious refusal to give up my heritage ;). 04:08 eythian mtompset: eye-thee-in, but it was never intended to be particularly phonetic. 04:08 mtompset Ah. So not ÆÆŸiƆn 04:08 ebegin eythian, any signification ? 04:08 eythian nope 04:08 ebegin mtompset rules in IPA 04:09 ebegin does wahanui means something in maori ? 04:09 eythian yep 04:09 mtompset Ah, so some sort of vowel slide, ÆŸIn 04:10 eythian I think it's like 'memory', though I'm not 100% sure 04:10 mtompset Ah, so some sort of vowel slide, ÆŸiIn 04:10 eythian oh no, wait, it's a name 04:10 mtompset Forgot the 'ee'. :) 04:11 eythian it's a name and a conch shell 04:11 eythian I don't know which interpretation was intended for wahanui though 04:12 mtompset ƆiÆŸiIn 04:12 mtompset Oh bother! Superscript doesn't cut and paste. 04:12 eythian oh, it also translates as "big mouth" if you treat it as waha nui 04:12 eythian I suspect that's the interpretation. 04:12 ebegin wahanui, what does your name means ? 04:12 wahanui ebegin: wish i knew 04:12 ebegin :) 04:13 * eythian is totally failing to achieve anything here, might run off. 04:14 mtompset Care to sign off tiny patches? ;) 04:14 mtompset Nevermind... I need to finish the last patch first. :) 04:15 dcook eythian: Time for beer 04:15 eythian you might be on to something there, dcook 04:17 dcook I think I might need one too. This script I'm looking at makes almost no sense. 04:21 mtompset And beer will make it more sensible? 04:22 dcook Beer might make me forget that it exists? 04:26 BobB_ ebegin, eythian, I was lead to believe that wahanui means 'loud mouth' in Maori? 04:29 ebegin BobB_, thanks ! it make sense in a way. wahanui is always talking :-) 04:30 BobB_ that's it 04:30 mtompset dcook: Then your test/changes wouldn't be thorough, but I can understand wanting to ignore it for a while. :) 04:30 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha BobB_ ebegin eythian dcook. 04:36 gmcharlt @quote random 04:36 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #229: "rangi: relax, I signed it off :)" (added by wizzyrea at 08:59 PM, January 02, 2013) 04:48 * ebegin which he could fly to Australia to share a IPA with dcook 04:48 ebegin @wunder ottawa, ontario 04:48 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in General Burns, Ottawa, Ontario is -8.8°C (11:48 PM EST on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 04:49 ebegin -8 is not bad 04:53 dcook ebegin: That sounds nice 04:53 dcook The IPA rather than the temperature, that is ;) 06:04 gmcharlt @worldtime CET 06:04 huginn gmcharlt: Thursday 19 December 2013 07:04 06:05 rangi oh thats a handy one 06:05 rangi good email bt 06:05 rangi w 06:05 gmcharlt @worldtime America/New_York 06:05 huginn gmcharlt: Thursday 19 December 2013 01:05 06:06 gmcharlt @worldtime France/Paris 06:06 huginn gmcharlt: Error: I don't know about France/Paris 06:06 gmcharlt @worldtime Europe/Paris 06:06 huginn gmcharlt: Thursday 19 December 2013 07:06 06:36 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9673: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0668dd7a8dbf2b34d8a93454bebf93dde44de38f> / Bug 9673: DBRev 3.15.00.007 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=41ef04676835fc3c5b43d8b38736db354559d1be> / Bug 9673: QA followup <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6807a29afd05128efb3c05024a9d9803a02cb 06:41 cait morning 06:58 * magnuse waves 06:58 cait gmcharlt++ 06:58 magnuse @worldtime Europe/Oslo 06:58 huginn magnuse: Thursday 19 December 2013 07:58 06:59 cait @karma 06:59 huginn cait: Highest karma: "oleonard" (806), "jcamins" (662), and "cait" (495). Lowest karma: "ie" (-125), "<!" (-116), and "failed" (-111). You (cait) are ranked 3 out of 2721. 06:59 magnuse gmcharlt++ can't be said too often 06:59 cait hmm 07:03 * dcook started writing this really strange convoluted multi-dimensional array 07:03 dcook Then I realized...if I have to make something this convoluted...something else is wrong further upstream 07:18 magnuse and was it? :-) 07:21 dcook Hmm 07:21 dcook Well, it wasn't working properly, so yes 07:21 dcook I wonder if I could've fixed it within the existing framework, but I don't think so 07:21 dcook It needs to be completely re-imagined 07:21 dcook Don't know if it's worth the time, but it's broken so...:S 07:23 magnuse if it's broke, fix it ;-) 07:24 magnuse is it koha or something else? 07:25 dcook something else, luckily enough :) 07:25 magnuse yay! ;-) 07:29 dcook Bleargh...I should get moving. More Christmas stuff to buy... 07:32 cait hi dcook 07:33 reiveune hello 07:33 dcook hey cait 07:33 dcook salut reiveune 07:34 reiveune salut dcook :) 07:34 dcook All right. Time to indulge in holiday capitalism. Night all! 07:36 cait hi reiveune 07:37 reiveune bonjour cait, kathryn, magnuse :) 07:41 magnuse bonjour reiveune 07:41 magnuse @wunder boo 07:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on December 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 07:43 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:43 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.3°C (8:40 AM CET on December 19, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 07:43 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 9.4°C (8:43 AM CET on December 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 07:57 alex_a bonjour 08:09 cait good morning #koha 08:16 petter morning koha! 08:18 cait hi petter :) 08:20 matts hi #koha ! 08:20 cait hi matts :) 08:20 matts hi cait ! 08:20 cait matts: ready for christmas? :) 08:22 petter Can someone enlighten me about Koha's DB-connections? 08:22 petter Is it using a thread-pool? 08:22 petter How many concurrent request can it handle? 08:22 cait guess i am the wrong person to ask 08:23 cait maybe if you wait a bit - it's quite empty here this morning 08:23 petter ok 08:23 petter thanks for the advice! 08:23 petter I'll be patient 08:23 cait not really a helpful one :) 08:23 cait @wunder Konstanz 08:23 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (9:00 AM CET on December 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Fog. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). 09:28 ashimema @wunder Stevenage, UK 09:28 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 5.4°C (9:21 AM GMT on December 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Rising). 09:28 cait good morning ashimema 09:28 ashimema mornin' cait 09:29 cait hi drojf 09:31 cait interesting 09:31 wahanui well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 09:31 cait can someone confirm that the itemtype form is broken when noitemtypeimagesis off? 09:33 cait hm filed abug 09:33 cait bug 11424 09:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11424 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Itemtype administration form is broken when noItemTypeImages is activated 10:39 cait thx Joubu 10:42 Joubu cait: you're welcome :) 13:10 tcohen morning #koha 13:11 cait morning tcohen :) 13:11 tcohen hi cait 13:12 nlegrand Hey #koha :) 13:12 cait hi nen 13:12 cait hi nlegrand 13:12 cait i keep misreading your nick as nengard :( 13:13 cait just need some more practice :) 13:14 tcohen cait, doesn't your client have tab-completion? 13:15 tcohen s/client/IRC client/ 13:23 cait tcohen: yeah, but i typed nen... and then realized there was no complete :) 13:23 oleonard Hi #koha 13:25 SlyzertVoltrond hi 13:25 wahanui hey, SlyzertVoltrond 13:25 SlyzertVoltrond hey there 13:27 oleonard I guess I need to step up on the signoffs. Or maybe stop submitting patches? http://paste.koha-community.org/27 13:27 oleonard If only some of the other developers here at ACPL would get off their butts and start signing off 13:27 oleonard Oh wait... Nope, just me. 13:29 cait oleonard: take some cookies, go do sign offs... :P 13:29 SlyzertVoltrond changing usercss in system preferences doesn't seem to work anymore 13:30 cait maybe you have a syntax error 13:30 oleonard Are those numbers for PTFS-Europe right? No signoffs? 13:30 cait but ashimema is on qa now .) 13:30 oleonard SlyzertVoltrond: What version are you using, and what are you trying to do? 13:31 ashimema I was somewhat surprised by that too oleanard.. 13:32 ashimema I'm kicking some butt here to get our guys doing mroe sign-off.. though I'm surprised it's that low.. I'm sure I've talked some of them through it at least a few times each. 13:33 ashimema s/oleanard/oleonard/g 13:35 jcamins oleonard: I see one signoff each from Martin and Colin in 3.12, and presumably they signed off on those patches without changing bugzilla. 13:37 jcamins I think the statistics on the paste are off bz, though I could be mistaken. 13:39 SlyzertVoltrond my internet is kinda bonkers today 13:40 ashimema That might make sense.. either way we need to pull out weight more ;) 13:41 jcamins Joubu: around? 13:42 jcamins SlyzertVoltrond: I think you need bip... 13:42 SlyzertVoltrond bip? 13:42 wahanui bip is pretty useful too :-) 13:42 jcamins It's an IRC bouncer, so that you can see if anyone messages you while you're offline. 13:42 jcamins 08:30 < oleonard> SlyzertVoltrond: What version are you using, and what are you trying to do? 13:43 jcamins Your connection is cutting out every minute or so. 13:43 oleonard ashimema: My comment was not meant to imply that I thought you guys were slacking, but that those stats are probably not counting some of your signoffs 13:44 SlyzertVoltrond i've already answer to that message, though 13:44 SlyzertVoltrond "3.14, trying to change opac koha logo to a custom one" 13:44 oleonard SlyzertVoltrond: That message didn't reach us 13:44 oleonard Sheesh. 13:45 jcamins I wasn't joking about the minute thing! 13:45 Joubu jcamins: yep 13:46 jcamins Joubu: I've thought over your e-mail, and I have answers. 13:46 * oleonard can't complain about other people's work on Koha lately because he's been tied up in non Koha stuff for weeks 13:46 Joubu jcamins: great :) 13:46 oleonard SlyzertVoltrond: What OPAC theme? 13:46 jcamins I'd love to see C4::Linker extended to handle auth-auth links, but at the moment there is nothing that handles them. 13:47 jcamins I think the syspref idea is going in the wrong direction, though. 13:48 SlyzertVoltrond bootstrap 13:48 wahanui bootstrap is, like, running in a demo at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz. It tracks, reasonably closely, the current master version of Koha 13:48 jcamins Any field with a thesaurus (5xx) is (or can be) linked to other authorities. 13:48 oleonard SlyzertVoltrond: Please paste your custom CSS at http://paste.koha-community.org/ or share a link to the OPAC you're working on 13:48 Joubu And it seems, C4::Linker should be improved a lot for doing that 13:50 jcamins Yeah, that's why I didn't manage to include the improvement in any of my authority work. 13:50 Joubu I thought to create a new zebra index, but I don't like the idea. 13:55 jcamins I don't think you have an option. 13:55 Joubu jcamins: so the solution would be to extend C4::Linker? 13:55 jcamins You're going to be creating a new Zebra index no matter what. 13:55 gaetan_B hello 13:55 jcamins That would be my recommendation, yeah. 13:56 Joubu jcamins: ok thanks. For the moment I park the problem at the bottom of my todo list. 13:57 Joubu jcamins: we have several (internal) scripts doing some stuff like that. Maybe I will use them in a first step 13:59 jcamins Okay, time to make some peanut butter pileups. 14:00 oleonard ...leading inevitably to an hours-long peanut butter gapers delay 14:00 jcamins oleonard: yup. 14:10 * magnuse waves to tcohen 14:11 tcohen hi magnuse 14:37 pastebot "SlyzertVoltrond" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "opacusercss" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/40 14:38 SlyzertVoltrond opacsmallimage also doesn't work 14:40 SlyzertVoltrond oleonard: sorry it took me a while 14:40 cait i think someone else said that opacsmallimage was not working with the new bootstrap theme 14:41 oleonard It doesn't. The Bootstrap theme doesn't support it 14:41 SlyzertVoltrond oh, that's why 14:41 oleonard SlyzertVoltrond: That CSS was designed for the prog theme. The Bootstrap theme is completely different 14:42 oleonard SlyzertVoltrond: You might look at using the opacheader preference for embedding your logo 14:42 SlyzertVoltrond i have to use html? 14:44 oleonard Yes that's the best option with the Bootstrap theme since there is no fixed logo region 14:44 SlyzertVoltrond ok, i'll try to look into it 14:44 SlyzertVoltrond thanks for the help 14:49 gmcharlt oleonard: ACPL is not a multi-developer organization :) 14:49 oleonard You're telling me! 14:49 gmcharlt a distinction I was trying to allude to, but clearly didn't make well enough, is expectations for commercial firms 14:51 gmcharlt where I do think that participation in community patch review needs to be an expected part of the process 14:51 gmcharlt (and yes, accounted for in one's rates, of course) 14:55 tcohen can anyone qa bug 10905 14:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10905 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Author tracings incorrect when UseAuthoritiesForTracings is turned on 15:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11417: make sure remove_unused_authorities.pl accepts --test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6657860010ef27792251596590c1471ad5d08ad8> / Bug 11279: (follow-up) remove unnecessary check on number of quotes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ee6e4290e2d1ca4fea53363b7ca3275cb0e6f58> / Bug 11279: Improve how a new quote of the day is selected <http://git.koha-c 15:22 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11228: Improve hint on patron notification when adding/editing subscriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=53495aab241cef4202eac372e85e6f3d09aa873d> 15:27 SlyzertVoltrond oleonard: btw, you should update your koha blog sometimes 15:27 oleonard Yes I should :) 15:27 SlyzertVoltrond i learned so much from it 15:28 SlyzertVoltrond thanks for sharing your expertise with others 15:29 oleonard Actually I have a Bootstrap post in progress but I keep getting pulled away by other things 15:30 SlyzertVoltrond that would be very nice indeed hehe 16:13 reiveune bye 16:26 gmcharlt quick -- everybody stop distracting oleonard! 16:27 oleonard Actually you guys are doing a pretty good job of that today ;) 16:27 jcamins gmcharlt: I guess I shouldn't tell him how delicious the peanut butter pileups look, then? 16:31 oleonard Instagram that pileup! 16:31 gmcharlt jcamins: I am eating my breakfast now... and yet I want those cookies 16:36 * barton waves a box of star wars figure blasters in oleonard's face as a distraction. 16:36 * oleonard hisses "Precious!" 16:36 barton HA 16:37 jcamins gmcharlt: they're pefect for breakfast. Lots of protein. 17:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11179: (follow-up) add comment to item-status.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec7fff647d547c9ff5adadcb4c1cb35bc4ea7baf> / Bug 11179: (follow-up) apply fix to Boostrap theme <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=78b73c3fffc6f5125a688e91582da92287fbbef2> / Bug 11179: make OPAC course details page display status of checked out items correctly <http://git.koha- 17:17 cait hi #koha :) 17:23 rambutan hi cait 17:23 cait hi rambutan :) 17:51 tcohen @later tell rangi will jenkins_koha be online again? 17:51 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 17:54 tcohen @later tell eythian can u tell me what can I improve on 10942 so it moves on? 17:54 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 18:17 drojf hi #koha 18:19 tcohen hi drojf 18:19 drojf hi tcohen 18:21 tcohen its been a while drojf 18:23 drojf true. how are you? how is kohacon planning going? :) 18:25 tcohen its fine, we are collecting hotel information 18:25 tcohen UNC has some agreements on the price with some in the city 18:25 drojf i so want to go 18:26 * magnuse too 18:26 tcohen :-D 18:26 drojf i'll bring mate softdrinks ;) 18:27 * cait too 18:27 tcohen university is currently almost closed so i'm trying to make things flow with my librarians colleages so we have all the info this week 18:27 tcohen i hope you all come 18:27 drojf i hope you have travel grants :P 18:28 tcohen heh, i'd like to 18:29 tcohen i picked the idea i heard in reno of inviting marshall b. to kohacon14 18:29 rambutan let us know if he accepts 18:30 tcohen he visited us in 2009 (i talked with him about Koha by then) 18:30 cait oh didn't know 18:30 tcohen we were starting our migration 18:31 tcohen we had just made our decision 18:43 jcamins Hm. I woner if Latah Library uses IE. 18:43 jcamins *wonder 18:46 oleonard Latah Library? 18:47 jcamins The bug report about enter submitting in the cataloging interface. 18:49 jcamins I seem to recall wizzyrea fixing it a while ago. 18:57 * magnuse wonders if eythian will have time to package 3.14.1 before he goes on holiday 18:59 * tcohen thinks of 3.12.8... 19:00 magnuse are there any non-public, record level notes in marc21? 19:01 jcamins magnuse: not private non-public. 19:02 magnuse okelydokely 19:03 jcamins magnuse: if you just need non-public non-public, you can use a 9xx field. 19:14 drojf what's the difference between private non-public and non-public non-public? 19:14 drojf i mean, how private can an entry in a marc record be? ^^ 19:15 cait ? 19:15 jcamins drojf: in Koha it can't be. 19:15 cait brb 19:16 jcamins drojf: but if we filtered MARC records before outputting them to remove fields that were private, there could be truly private notes. 19:17 drojf private to whom? i mean, what would be the purpose? fields only visible on a "per staff member" basis? or for one special user? 19:17 drojf or just not at all? 19:17 jcamins Visible to staff only, is how I understood the question. 19:18 jcamins i.e. not accessible through the OPAC. 19:18 drojf oh. ok. i thought that was possible in koha 19:18 jcamins Not on a record level. 19:18 jcamins Not even on an item level, really. 19:18 drojf ah maybe it was item level. oh. then i wonder what i looked at 19:19 jcamins But, shh, we use security by obscurity to protct our secrets. 19:19 drojf that's how the big players do it! :P 19:20 jcamins Heh. Yeah, awesome. :P 19:20 drojf wouldn't just a tweak to the xslt do it? 19:21 jcamins No, that's just non-public non-public. 19:21 jcamins You can download the full record, with all "private" MARC fields. 19:21 drojf ah. now. yes, i did not think of that 19:22 jcamins Most people don't. 19:23 drojf oh no, all our secrets leaked /o\ :P 19:24 gmcharlt yes, one of the reasons why thinking of MARC as an interchange format is handy 19:24 gmcharlt i.e., if you don't want to interchange it... ;) 19:24 drojf heh 19:25 drojf we actually had nonpublic information that i did not want in the opac. information from the old system, for reference. i think it got dropped anyway in the end, but if somebody would have liked to download the records and read that, no problem. ;) 19:29 magnuse i totally agree that secrets should be kept in marc. in fact, i rather lean towards the opinion that MARC must die! ;-) 19:29 magnuse gah 19:29 magnuse s/should/should NOT/ 19:29 jcamins magnuse: on the other hand, if you're going for secrecy by obfuscation, MARC may be the ideal format. 19:29 magnuse hehe, true! 19:30 magnuse and exchanging iso2709 records over z39.50? perfect obfuscation! ;-) 19:33 * cait waves 19:33 cait :) 19:34 cait ugh 19:34 drojf imagine walking through a real life MARC world. a huge labyrinth crowded with weird drawers and files, across hundreds of rooms. and you have to find that one piece of information 19:34 cait 217 new bug mails in my qa inbox 19:34 drojf no, better don't. ^^ 19:35 drojf cait: oh, that sounds like fun 19:35 cait if you need fun... i know a patch that needs some attention from a gemran speaker... 19:39 * drojf hides 19:39 cait hmpf 19:39 * cait glares a little at drojf 19:51 rangi morning 19:53 cait morning rangi 19:54 magnuse kia ora rangi! 19:54 cait how is friday so far? 19:55 rangi https://twitter.com/ranginui/status/413739752761094144 19:58 cait cool :) 19:59 cait my plan to ask dcook about the days always fails because i get up too late... or he leaves work too early, not sure :) 20:00 magnuse wow, friday sounds pretty good :-) 20:01 cait my last work day before christmas holidays :) 20:02 magnuse have fun #koha! 20:02 cait bye magnuse :) 20:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #1562 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 8 days 23 hr ago) 20:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #268 for job master_maria (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #264 8 days 23 hr ago) 20:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #430 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #430: SUCCESS in 31 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/430/ 20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo 20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update patron restriction info 20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update restrictions further 20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update restricted image in circ 20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: remove 'flag' language from restrictions 20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update serials info 20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add manage frequencies section 20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add number patterns section 20:22 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: link to new serials sections 20:27 nengard so .. i said this last week and was wrong ... but right now i do finally think i'm done with the 3.14 manual (at least as far as adding all the new stuff to it) 20:27 nengard If I don't find anything when I get back in 2014 I'll branch the manual then 20:49 gmcharlt nengard++ 20:50 rangi right so ive figured out the error we have with zebra connection tracking 20:50 rangi what we do is, check if there is an errorcode 20:50 jcamins rangi++ 20:50 rangi now, that error code gets set if the last action resulted in an error 20:50 rangi so if the last action was ok 20:50 rangi but in the meantime the connection timed out 20:51 rangi we still think its ok 20:51 rangi because no error code 20:51 rangi then we try to use it, it doesnt work 20:51 rangi error code, next time we get a new connection 20:51 rangi so we get one failed search 20:51 rangi (under cgi we do a new connection every script run, so this never manifests) 20:52 rangi so im gonna change the code, to do a simple action, that would trigger an error if the connection has timed out 20:52 rangi then check the error code 20:52 drojf zebra ping? 20:53 cait rangi++ 20:53 rangi yeah, i wish that existed in the ZOOM library 20:53 rangi but it doesnt 20:53 cait do they have a wish list we could put it on? :) 20:54 rangi naw 20:54 rangi cos they will just tell us we should be using yaz-proxy between koha and zebra 20:54 rangi cos it handles all that for us 20:54 rangi which is true 20:54 rangi but aint nobody got time for that today 20:54 jcamins [off] Yeah, write your wishes on the back of a $10,000 bill and mail to the Car Talk Plaza. 20:57 jcamins rangi: I guess $conn->check() didn't do it? 20:57 rangi naw that does the same thing 20:57 rangi checks if an error is pending 20:57 rangi Checks whether an error is pending on the connection, and throw a ZOOM::Exception object if so. 20:57 jcamins That's a bit of a useless method then, isn't it. 20:57 rangi it is 20:57 rangi unless you run right after an action 20:58 rangi ie do a ->scan 20:58 rangi check 20:58 rangi before trying to fetch the resultset 20:58 rangi bascially zebra/z3950/zoom 20:58 rangi all arent designed for persistent connections 20:59 rangi in theory we could just open a connection and destroy it each time 20:59 rangi thats what we do under cgi anyway 20:59 rangi but id prefer not to do that if i can find a cheap/quick way to test 20:59 jcamins I guess the question would be which is faster. 20:59 rangi maybe scan('a') 21:00 rangi or something 21:00 wahanui something is sketchy 21:00 rangi i dunno 21:01 rangi ill try some things 21:03 jcamins How do you trigger the bug consistently? 21:03 rangi run a bunch of searches 21:03 rangi then wait some longish period of time 21:03 rangi try again 21:04 rangi sometimes it takes quite a while, but it needs to be on a system only you are using 21:04 rangi or other people keep connections active :) 21:05 gmcharlt rangi: random thought, may be worthless -- stick metaproxy in front of Zebra? 21:06 jcamins Right. I was probably just too impatient when I was trying to figure out this bug. 21:06 rangi yeah, yazproxy or metaproxy would work 21:06 rangi thats actually what indexdata suggest 21:06 rangi if you want connection pooling etc, yaz-proxy is the way to do it 21:07 rangi basically if we want plack 21:07 rangi we have to fix this in some way, and make it easily upgradable etc 21:08 rangi its easy for me to just whack up yaz-proxy on our servers, but to do it in an upstreamable way is a bit more difficult 21:11 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #268: STILL UNSTABLE in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/268/ 21:11 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 9224: Make acqui/finishreceive.pl Plack-compatible 21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11261: make sample serial numbering patterns mandatory during installation 21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11261: make sample serial frequencies mandatory during installation 21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11255: allow "relevance ascending" as a sort option 21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11124: disallow trying to run the staff benchmark script as the DB account 21:11 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11124: QA Follow-up resolving a warning and three typos 21:11 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11124: QA Follow-up adding optional dependency HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9224 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Master , acqui/finishreceive.pl is not Plack-compatible 21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8230: Display acquisition details on the catalogue detail page 21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8230: (follow-up) reflect the fact that order statuses are now alphabetic codes 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8230: DBrev 3.15.00.005 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8230: (follow-up) don't link to basket unless user has appropriate permissions 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8230: (follow-up) fix detection of cancelled orders 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8230: (follow-up) repair regression on order search 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8230: (follow-up) update POD for C4::Acquisition::GetHistory 21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10852: serials search improvements 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11261 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Sample frequencies and numbering patterns should better be mandatory on install 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11255 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , sort by relevance asc generates a wrong query 21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10852: (follow-up) rename the "expiration date" filter name 21:11 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10852: (follow-up) switch from KohaAuthorisedValues to AuthorisedValues 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10852: (follow-up) tweak wording of serials search form 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10852: (follow-up) fix POD for C4::Serials::NewSubscription 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11124 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The staff benchmark script does not work with sql administrator account 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10852: (follow-up) regression tests 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10852: (follow-up) update the POD for C4::Serials::SearchSubscriptions 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8230 enhancement, P4, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Show the ordered status in catalogue page 21:11 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10626 - Remove doubled up TT plugins - Merge KohaBranchName and Branches 21:11 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10626: (follow-up) replace another use of KohaBranchName 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10852 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add 3 filters to the serials search 21:11 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 11277: fix errors with search facet links in Bootstrap theme 21:11 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 7934: generate separate PO files for help pages 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10626 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Remove doubled up TT plugins 21:11 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11249: Add Db indexes on borrowers names 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11249: DBRev 3.15.00.006 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7518: regression test double-quote in search operand 21:11 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7518: certain searches with quotation marks don't work 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11277 major, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Bootstrap theme: error in link for showing all facets 21:11 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9807 : Make it possible to view a basket group without reopening it 21:11 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9807: (follow-up) fix variable name 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7934 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Separate po file for help pages 21:11 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9807: (follow-up) reindent basketgroup.tt 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9807: (follow-up) quell warning if invoice price not set 21:11 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation update - split staff UI and help files 21:11 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9673 - Track when items are marked as lost or withdrawn 21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9673: QA followup 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9673: DBRev 3.15.00.007 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11249 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Add db indexes on borrowers names 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9673: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes 21:11 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11279: regression test for picking random quote 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7518 normal, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , searches with quotation marks don't work 21:11 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11279: Improve how a new quote of the day is selected 21:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11279: (follow-up) remove unnecessary check on number of quotes 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9807 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , There should be a way to show the content of a basketgroup without reopening it 21:11 jenkins_koha * Gaetan Boisson: Bug 11417: make sure remove_unused_authorities.pl accepts --test 21:11 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11228: Improve hint on patron notification when adding/editing subscriptions 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Track when items are marked as lost or withdrawn 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11279 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Quote of the day feature won't pick a quote 21:11 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11179: make OPAC course details page display status of checked out items correctly 21:11 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11179: (follow-up) apply fix to Boostrap theme 21:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11179: (follow-up) add comment to item-status.inc 21:11 rangi and thats what happens when a build gets stuck for 6 days 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11417 major, P5 - low, ---, gaetan.boisson, Pushed to Master , remove_unused_authorities.pl doesn't accept --test 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11228 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Explanation on 'patron notification' is not quite right 21:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11179 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , opac-course-details.pl shows item as available when it is checked out 21:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #269 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #264 9 days 0 hr ago) 21:18 jcamins What's been going on with jenkins that it hasn't been able to build? 21:19 rangi it was just hung on one of hte nodes, galens one .. because .. java 21:20 jcamins Ah. Right. 21:28 eythian hi 21:29 eythian @later tcohen from memory, there isn't really anything that needs to be fixed up. If I find the time, I'll do some signoff on it. 21:29 huginn eythian: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 21:30 eythian @later tell tcohen from memory, there isn't really anything that needs to be fixed up. If I find the time, I'll do some signoff on it. 21:30 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 21:30 rangi @worldtime 21:30 huginn rangi: (worldtime <channel> <timezone> <format>) -- Displays time in spesificed timezone. 21:30 rangi @worldtime PST 21:30 huginn rangi: Error: I don't know about PST 21:31 rangi gmcharlt: you are in the same timezone as kgs eh? 21:31 rangi whats the time? :) 21:48 eythian @worldtime Pacific/Auckland 21:48 huginn eythian: Friday 20 December 2013 10:48 21:48 eythian @worldtime AEST 21:48 huginn eythian: Error: I don't know about AEST 21:48 eythian @worldtime NZDT 21:48 huginn eythian: Error: I don't know about NZDT 21:48 eythian @worldtime Antarctica/McMurdo 21:48 huginn eythian: Friday 20 December 2013 10:48 21:49 rangi ah ha 21:50 rangi @worldtime California/USA 21:50 huginn rangi: Error: I don't know about California/USA 21:50 rangi @worldtime California 21:50 huginn rangi: Error: I don't know about California 21:54 rambutan @worldtime pacific standard 21:54 huginn rambutan: Error: I don't know about pacific 21:54 rambutan @worldtime usa/mountain 21:54 huginn rambutan: Error: I don't know about usa/mountain 21:54 rambutan @worldtime us/mountain 21:54 huginn rambutan: Error: I don't know about us/mountain 21:54 rambutan man worldtime 21:55 rambutan @worldtime zulu 21:55 huginn rambutan: Error: I don't know about zulu 22:02 eythian @worldtime US/Mountain 22:02 huginn eythian: Thursday 19 December 2013 15:02 22:02 eythian case sensitive 22:02 eythian @worldtime NZ 22:02 huginn eythian: Friday 20 December 2013 11:02 22:02 eythian @worldtime NZ-CHAT 22:02 huginn eythian: Friday 20 December 2013 11:47 22:03 eythian @worldtime posix/UTC 22:03 huginn eythian: Error: I don't know about posix/UTC 22:03 magnuse @worldtime Sacramento/America 22:03 huginn magnuse: Error: I don't know about Sacramento/America 22:04 magnuse @worldtime Los Angeles/America 22:04 huginn magnuse: Error: I don't know about Los 22:04 magnuse @worldtime Los_Angeles/America 22:04 huginn magnuse: Error: I don't know about Los_Angeles/America 22:04 magnuse gah 22:05 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #269: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/269/ 22:06 eythian magnuse: that's not how timezones work 22:06 magnuse @worldtime Europe/Oslo 22:06 huginn magnuse: Thursday 19 December 2013 23:06 22:06 eythian @worldtime America/Los_Angeles 22:06 huginn eythian: Thursday 19 December 2013 14:06 22:07 eythian look in /usr/share/zoneinfo for hints :) 22:07 magnuse @worldtime America/Los Angeles 22:07 huginn magnuse: Error: I don't know about America/Los 22:07 magnuse gotcha 22:08 eythian @worldtime America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires 22:08 huginn eythian: Thursday 19 December 2013 19:08 22:11 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 22:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1562: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1562/ 23:45 * mtompset whispers, "disturb now" multiple times. ;)