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23:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8230: (follow-up) update POD for C4::Acquisition::GetHistory <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfc0a2cb812636c5eb9cc10e3cf5bfba8eee8e61> / Bug 8230: (follow-up) repair regression on order search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=44eb83388928a020812d6fc375d565b0b2d6f9d3> / Bug 8230: (follow-up) fix detection of cancelled orders <http://git.koha-community.org/g
23:37 magnuse have fun #koha!
22:20 francharb bye
22:20 francharb have a nice week end
22:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #1551 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 3 days 1 hr ago)
22:01 cait oooh
21:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11255 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , sort by relevance asc generates a wrong query
21:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11261 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Sample frequencies and numbering patterns should better be mandatory on install
21:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9224 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Master , acqui/finishreceive.pl is not Plack-compatible
21:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11255: allow "relevance ascending" as a sort option
21:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11261: make sample serial frequencies mandatory during installation
21:58 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11261: make sample serial numbering patterns mandatory during installation
21:58 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 9224: Make acqui/finishreceive.pl Plack-compatible
21:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1550: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1550/
21:25 rambutan yea, it can be a pita, but somebody has to take the $$
21:22 cait but might not be easy to deal with those
21:21 rambutan there's gold in them thar hills
21:21 rambutan My Personal Statement of the Day: more US support companies should be looking at federal contracting
21:14 rangi [off] http://www.koha.org/u-s-federal-agency-selects-liblime-academic-koha?a=1&c=1254 and http://www.koha.org/liblime-to-exhibit-at-the-slas-military-libraries-workshop?a=1&c=1254
21:12 rangi its cos they did that massive press release just recently
21:12 rangi its funny how almost all the journalists have taken that angle
21:11 jcamins rangi: that opening sentence is priceless.
21:10 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/9518019/Libraries-trust-wins-battle-over-trademark
21:09 cait yeah sorry for that
21:07 * mtompset laughs, "In the tests, sometimes."
21:07 gmcharlt ;)
21:07 gmcharlt mtompset: cait is misleading you. Every Koha library in the world is now required to have a Centerville branch.
21:07 mtompset Oh, well, then enjoy.
21:07 cait i am still on vacation ;)
21:07 cait not yet
21:06 mtompset cait: I assume you've been seeing the slow progress in splitting the 85K patch into more manageable pieces? :)
21:06 mtompset Ah... I saw that flood on my pull, and was worried about news. :)
21:05 cait from optional to mandatory
21:05 cait s
21:05 cait we moved a few file
21:05 cait no
21:04 mtompset Wow! We renamed optional to mandatory?!
21:04 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
20:44 cait brr
20:44 druthb brr
20:44 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.7°C (9:40 PM CET on December 13, 2013). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
20:44 druthb @wunder konstanz germany
20:43 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 13.9°C (2:43 PM CST on December 13, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
20:43 druthb @wunder 77098
20:15 pianohacker bbl
20:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11124: QA Follow-up adding optional dependency HTTPD::Bench::ApacheBench <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f90cca4831dc90c74f4b6c18e415b1cce361fdb2> / Bug 11124: QA Follow-up resolving a warning and three typos <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1219b3153ee3501d61f22a767b7b3e68c7c8933e> / Bug 11124: disallow trying to run the staff benchmark script as the DB a
19:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #1550 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 2 days 23 hr ago)
19:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11255: allow "relevance ascending" as a sort option <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=54937c5eb34c511e00de8d0831141516422885c7>
19:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8334 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Authority UNIMARC 100 field plugin
19:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11174 trivial, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Wrong parameter 'valuec' in opac-authoritiessearchresultlist
19:50 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8334: (follow-up) remove commented JS code
19:50 jenkins_koha * Vitor FERNANDES: Bug 8334 - Authority UNIMARC 100 field plugin
19:50 jenkins_koha * Zeno Tajoli: Bug 11174: fix OPAC search links built from authority 5xx fields
19:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1549: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1549/
19:34 cait hi barton
19:31 barton hey!
19:31 oleonard Hi barton
19:15 rangi heh
19:14 cait hm and just ignore what i say that makes no sense ;)
19:11 cait rangi: hm think so
19:10 cait as we had problems with that in the past
19:10 cait oleonard: was thinking it could be something with encoding...
19:10 oleonard I don't know if they're using the same passwords again cait
19:10 rangi cait: thats only in 3.14 though eh?
19:09 cait but doing string comparison itself
19:09 cait rangi: it fixed the sip code also, but sadly it's still not using Auth.pm
19:09 rangi you might be able to spot something in the syslog
19:09 cait are they using the same passwords again?
19:08 rangi was it recent?
19:08 rangi *nod*
19:07 oleonard Of course it's not impossible that it's just a rash of people forgetting their passwords, but it did seem to coincide with our upgrade
19:07 rangi seems odd that a reset fixes it
19:06 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add invoice merge
19:06 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update course reserves image with datatables
19:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #422: SUCCESS in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/422/
19:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #422 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:05 rangi no idea then :)
19:05 rangi thats in 3.14
19:05 rangi you have a point
19:05 oleonard I didn't think that was in 3.12
19:04 rangi it maybe missed changing the code in SIP?
19:04 wahanui hmmm... that one is down more often than up
19:04 rangi that one
19:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, RESOLVED FIXED, Changing the password hashing algorithm from MD5 to more secure Bcrypt
19:04 rangi bug 9611
19:04 rangi probably the password change thing
19:04 rangi ahh
19:03 oleonard After resetting their passwords it works again.
19:03 oleonard Strange problem: After upgrading from 3.10 to 3.12 we hear that some patrons can no longer log into services which authenticate via SIP
19:01 nengard okay ... the 3.14 manual might actually be done .. aka up to date with the current release of course ... it's never done
18:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11261: make sample serial frequencies mandatory during installation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=97b270aa2e08089bfa888c191d32d0a9af075ffe> / Bug 11261: make sample serial numbering patterns mandatory during installation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c2e45a05816d69965445509d5ecd9db7ab3b98d>
18:36 huginn druthb: Quote #121: "mtj> friends don't let librarians spec bib formats" (added by chris at 08:18 PM, March 24, 2011)
18:36 druthb @quote random
18:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update acq add to basket info
18:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add new renewal option
18:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #421: SUCCESS in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/421/
18:36 * druthb chuckles
18:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #421 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:34 huginn cait: Quote #232: "<cait> oh... i miss myshkin <cait> I mean jared.. of course" (added by druthb at 06:31 PM, January 28, 2013)
18:34 cait @quote random
18:33 cait woohoo :)
18:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9224: Make acqui/finishreceive.pl Plack-compatible <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6dcc34c1b44f72a8602c4ee95540836e6cd1e7bd>
18:31 * gmcharlt rings the new developer bell
18:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix typo
18:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Revert "add patron purchase suggestion tab"
18:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Revert "update purchase suggestions section"
18:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add item overlay option to stage marc
18:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #420: SUCCESS in 19 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/420/
18:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #420 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FIXED)
18:14 nengard thanks gmcharlt - reverted :)
18:08 tcohen i rebased it, squashed and unneeded split and removed the 'c' from the opac includes
18:07 tcohen poor bz
18:07 tcohen heh
18:07 gmcharlt tcohen: I'm watching as the bug gets buried under a 100 folks all trying to revew it at once ;)
18:06 gmcharlt nengard: correct, that's for 3.16, not 3.14
18:06 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add fund warning
18:06 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add order transfer info
18:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #419: FIXED in 21 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/419/
18:06 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
18:06 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
18:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #419 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #417 45 min ago)
17:59 nengard I think I put it in the wrong manual
17:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow librarians to make purchase suggestions for patrons
17:58 nengard gmcharlt bug 9261 is in 3.16 right? not 3.14
17:58 tcohen s/all/call/
17:58 tcohen :-P
17:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10691 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , 5xx not properly linked by authid in authority search result list
17:58 tcohen all for volunteers: bug 10691
17:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #418: FAILURE in 5.1 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/418/
17:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #1549 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 2 days 21 hr ago)
17:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10983 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Unused subroutines in C4:Budgets
17:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
17:40 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 10983: Remove unused private subroutines from C4::Budgets
17:40 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7143: Adding RMaint for 3.8 to release team
17:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1548: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 19 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1548/
17:38 gaetan_B bye !
17:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #267 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #264 2 days 21 hr ago)
17:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11174 trivial, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Wrong parameter 'valuec' in opac-authoritiessearchresultlist
17:30 jenkins_koha Zeno Tajoli: Bug 11174: fix OPAC search links built from authority 5xx fields
17:30 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #266: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/266/
17:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update opac holds info with new layout
17:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenReceived with an example
17:21 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update receiving to note AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenReceived
17:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #417: SUCCESS in 21 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/417/
17:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #417 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:16 pianohacker yup, on call after upgrade
17:16 cait druthb!
17:16 druthb cait! :D
17:16 cait always takes a bit
17:16 cait picked up my new glasses, trying to get used to them
17:15 cait nope at home now :)
17:15 oleonard Hi pianohacker you're here early today
17:15 pianohacker hey cait
17:15 oleonard Still traveling cait?
17:14 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -2.0°C (6:00 PM CET on December 13, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028 hPa (Falling).
17:14 cait @wunder Konstanz
17:14 * cait waves
17:09 nengard thanks :) and awesome!!!
17:08 gmcharlt nengard: yes, that it's the idea
17:06 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update locale on serials
17:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #416: SUCCESS in 23 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/416/
17:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #416 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:02 nengard does that mean I could set it so when i receive the not for loan value changes from -1 to 0 ? without having to edit the item?
17:02 nengard documentation question for AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenReceived
16:57 * oleonard brb
16:48 oleonard Agreed on both counts
16:44 gmcharlt oleonard: I like wizzyrea's suggestion of making it a modal dialog, but Joubu is correct that it woudl be reasonable to open a new bug for that
16:41 oleonard I don't know... I think I'm in the minority on this one, so I won't press the issue
16:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11360 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Disable barcode field and submit button when a hold is found
16:39 gmcharlt oleonard: do you have any follow-up comments for bug 11360 or any inclination to counterpatch it?
16:38 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8334: (follow-up) remove commented JS code <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4927140966844b88ef54dfc4d8e5f39d164ac8f3> / Bug 8334 - Authority UNIMARC 100 field plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=311c9278765f369f616dadab92a8179761f8ee7a>
16:34 reiveune bye
16:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #266 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #264 2 days 19 hr ago)
16:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10983 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Unused subroutines in C4:Budgets
16:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
16:15 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 10983: Remove unused private subroutines from C4::Budgets
16:15 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7143: Adding RMaint for 3.8 to release team
16:15 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #265: UNSTABLE in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/265/
16:09 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add note about removing a tag
16:09 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update tagging with new images
16:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #415: SUCCESS in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/415/
16:09 jenkins_koha Starting build #415 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:04 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add note about removing a tag
16:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #36: SUCCESS in 18 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/36/
16:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #36 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:51 bag hopefully you are both staying warm (well all of you)
15:50 gmcharlt hi bag
15:50 bag heya gmcharlt and tcohen
15:50 gmcharlt tcohen: thanks
15:50 tcohen gmcharlt: i'll rebase it in about an hour
15:49 bag oleonard++
15:45 nengard thank you!
15:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11174: fix OPAC search links built from authority 5xx fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=09fcd6980301bae3daad68f8cc27a2d5e7d488e4>
15:45 nengard just figured that out :)
15:44 oleonard Leave out the sorting part
15:43 nengard what simple punctuation thing am i missing?
15:43 nengard not hiding the heading for the copynumber on the hold queue
15:42 nengard and $("th.hq-copynumber.sorting").hide();
15:42 nengard $("th.hq-copynumber sorting").hide();
15:42 nengard why is
15:42 nengard jquery question for anyone :) oleonard probably
15:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update purchase suggestions section
15:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add patron purchase suggestion tab
15:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #414: SUCCESS in 22 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/414/
15:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #414 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10983: Remove unused private subroutines from C4::Budgets <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=befc07c754eb4c2199c0063f15f9ffb3f3ea8cca>
15:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #1548 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:21 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update CircAutoPrintQuickSlip
15:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #413: SUCCESS in 17 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/413/
15:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #413 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #265 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: Adding RMaint for 3.8 to release team <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ce53e95d95d27f296a61cef61f4cbea3e290bc3>
14:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: link from marc templates to stage tool
14:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update stage marc with modificaiton templates
14:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add tip about variables to marc templates
14:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add Marc modification template section
14:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #412: SUCCESS in 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/412/
14:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #412 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:42 cait1 all trees white from ice and lots of white fog
14:41 cait1 wonder how it is in Konstanz
14:41 cait1 it's super foggy outside
14:41 cait1 wow
14:40 tcohen heh
14:40 cait1 tcohen: hm, ok, i wil keep my -2
14:38 tcohen we are melting
14:37 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 29.0°C (11:00 AM ART on December 13, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
14:37 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
14:15 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is -2.8°C (9:01 AM EST on December 13, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Rising).
14:15 jcamins @wunder 11375
14:14 nengard finally warming up a bit here
14:14 cait -2 is cold enough for me
14:14 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Waller Beach, Austin, Texas is 8.0°C (8:11 AM CST on December 13, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
14:13 nengard @wunder 78741
14:12 magnuse colder than northern-norway even! above the polar circle
14:12 magnuse :-)
14:11 oleonard Colder than Norway! Wheee!
14:11 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -4.4°C (9:10 AM EST on December 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
14:11 oleonard @wunder 45701
14:10 cait and cold in Konstanz ew.
14:10 wahanui i guess train is very full already
14:10 cait train...
14:10 tcohen power outage...
14:10 tcohen hi magnuse
14:08 magnuse ¡hola! tcohen
14:08 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 8.9°C (8:08 AM CST on December 13, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.16 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
14:08 druthb @wunder 77098
14:08 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -2.0°C (3:00 PM CET on December 13, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028 hPa (Falling).
14:08 magnuse @wunder Konstanz
14:08 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (2:50 PM CET on December 13, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady).
14:08 magnuse @wunder boo
14:06 cait @wunder Konstanz
13:54 * cait waves back to magnuse
13:54 * magnuse waves to cait on a train
13:54 cait oleonard++
13:52 cait on a train... might get disconnected any time
13:52 cait oh ok
13:52 jcamins cait: that's because Koha is every day of the month!
13:51 cait just noticed it just says the month year and time
13:51 cait could you add the day to the modt?
13:51 cait hi oleonard
13:50 * cait waves
13:50 oleonard Hi #koha
13:12 magnuse as long as the practical parts of the tango are optional i'm still interested ;-)
13:11 nengard morning
13:07 francharb morning #koha
12:51 tcohen so far, we have listed tango, some travel to jesuitic places, and asado
12:48 jcamins Hooray!
12:46 tcohen but yes, we are planing
12:46 wahanui whatever jcamins forgets to check is optional.
12:46 tcohen optional
12:46 tcohen of course
12:46 jcamins tcohen: Shari and I were discussing one of the important questions about KohaCon 2014 last night... will there be any tango?
12:45 jcamins Good morning.
12:44 wahanui somebody said morning was a state of cat
12:44 tcohen morning!
11:25 cait ok, time to head home... bye all
11:11 ashimema It was a join effort between Mark and Colin.
10:32 Viktor Would be great to get a preliminary blessing for that type of change from someone involved
10:32 Viktor Hi paul_p
10:31 cait ashimema might know
10:31 magnuse kia ora paul_p
10:31 cait i think it was Colin
10:31 magnuse khall is the one who wrote the feature, i think?
10:30 Viktor Glad to hear.
10:30 cait yep that would make sense
10:29 Viktor Or something smarter.. :)
10:28 Viktor Having separate rules for this for different libraries.
10:28 Viktor That means we would have to make it more granular.
10:27 Viktor thanks cait
10:27 cait i think it's the only way to shorten the loan period right now - making it depend on a factor like holds
10:22 Viktor I'm wondering if anyone has solved this type of thing in a smarter way then we did?
10:21 Viktor Problem is the smaller ones is only open 2 days a week = 5 weeks loan.
10:21 Viktor That is two weeks for the main library.
10:20 Viktor We have it set to decrease loan period to 10 open days when there are holds
10:20 Viktor I have some weirdness with decreaseLoanHighHolds btw.
10:20 Viktor I do dread handling those when programming :)
10:19 Viktor One of the things I do loathe is character encoding issues?
10:19 Viktor :)
10:19 Viktor :)M
10:19 magnuse s/nre/new/
10:19 magnuse lol - that only showed as a questionmark for me :-)
10:18 magnuse my old-mac-mini-running-ubuntu is getting way too weird, i need to find the time to get something nre
10:18 Viktor But hey - I usually find it easier to copy the norwegian ? from an email then find out how to write it myself :)
10:17 magnuse yup
10:17 Viktor Weird :)
10:17 magnuse (i know, but my keyboard refuses to place umlauts above letters)
10:16 Viktor Hej magnuse :)
10:16 magnuse tjenare Viktor
10:16 Viktor Greetings #koha :)
10:02 * magnuse lives way up in the north of norway and runs libriotech, which also offers koha services :-)
10:01 nlegrand thanks :)
10:01 cait not a library, but offering Koha support and hosting :)
10:00 * cait is from Germany, working for BSZ
10:00 cait hi nlegrand and welcome
10:00 magnuse welcome to the family, nlegrand :-)
09:59 nlegrand I'm rather new to Koha (just made an install with Biblibre at Paris Observatory) so right now I read a lot :)
09:58 nlegrand I didn't introduce myself, I work at the Bulac (http://bulac.fr/) since 1st of december. I have to update Koha and publish the Bulac features as soon as possible :).
09:39 magnuse hiya nlegrand
09:36 nlegrand hey #koha
09:26 cait morning ashimema
09:23 ashimema morning all
08:28 cait hi magnuse :)
08:22 magnuse hiya cait sophie_m gaetan_B
08:18 wahanui que tal, gaetan_B
08:18 gaetan_B hello
08:17 sophie_m hello #koha
08:17 cait good morning everyone :)
07:46 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on December 13, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
07:46 dcook thanks, magnuse ;)
07:46 magnuse @wunder boo
07:46 alex_a salut dcook
07:46 dcook hehe
07:46 * magnuse sends dcook some virtual money
07:46 dcook time for me to dash (literally)
07:46 dcook salut alex_a
07:40 alex_a bonjour
07:33 dcook Or exactly the amount I need, hmm
07:33 dcook Which reminds me that I don't have money
07:33 dcook hehe. Definitely beer o'clock
07:32 reiveune hello
07:32 magnuse hehe
07:32 wahanui beer o'clock is, like, a vital part of the Koha development process
07:32 magnuse beer o'clock?
07:32 magnuse ...and dcook of course
07:31 magnuse hiya matts
07:31 matts hi !
07:31 dcook hey ya magnuse and matts
07:31 * magnuse waves
06:41 dcook Or rather trying to ensure it...
06:41 dcook nope, cross browser compatibility sucks
06:32 dcook Hmm, perhaps finally a solution...
06:31 mtompset Have a great day. I'm crashing.
06:08 dcook Err...and "beforeprint" it seems
06:07 dcook Sorry, "afterprint"
06:07 dcook Interesting...apparently Chrome now supports the "onprint" event...
05:46 dcook "Our software is bad and you should feel bad"
05:46 dcook Love this: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/hh273397(v=vs.85).aspx
05:43 dcook http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/bg182625(v=vs.85).aspx
05:41 dcook Smooth, guys.
05:41 dcook They also changed navigator.appName to "Netscape" from "Microsoft Internet Explorer"
05:34 dcook No more IE conditional comments as of IE 10
05:34 dcook http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/hh801214(v=vs.85).aspx
05:34 wahanui http://buikitty.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/20120202-094434.jpg
05:34 * dcook facepalm
05:25 dcook IE--
05:25 dcook Otherwise known as "Edge"
05:24 dcook Oh ho...or they did fix it...until IE 11
05:21 dcook Alas, they have not succeeeded..
05:20 dcook Interesting...someone has tried to fix this in master..
05:09 dcook Wow, just wow..
05:06 dcook Worked the first time but not the second..
05:06 dcook Huh...just tried it twice in a row with FF
05:05 dcook But...but...that doesn't make sense either..
05:05 dcook FF must cache something fierce
05:05 dcook You were working a moment ago...
05:05 dcook Noooooo
05:04 dcook Maybe
05:04 dcook I think I've resolved that cross-browser issue
05:04 * dcook has no idea what you're talking about
04:57 mtj thats prolly good enough...
04:56 mtj i think i can match on FQDN
04:55 mtj yep, that would do :)
04:55 dcook Db/instance name?
04:55 dcook What do you mean canonical name?
04:55 dcook hey mtj :)
04:55 dcook But with the try/catch...it prints my catch warning message and the try code succeeds
04:54 mtj heya dcook :)
04:54 mtj heres a weird Q, is it possible to determine a canonical name for a Koha, from a .tt template?
04:54 dcook Interesting...without the try/catch...it fails
04:53 dcook And now it doesn't appear to work in FF...
04:52 dcook O_o
04:52 dcook FF: I'm going to try executing this bit of code, then think I failed so execute the code in "catch" even though the "try" appears to have worked...
04:52 dcook Firefox and IE are some strange creatures
04:51 dcook I think I've found a solution that actually works in FF, Chrome, and IE
04:51 dcook Oh thank <insert diety name here)
04:32 dcook You have to be kidding me...don't tell me that this doesn't work in Firefox..
04:27 dcook I suppose because it is using its own internal print dialog
04:26 dcook Timer it is...Chrome doesn't seem to like that focus method
04:25 dcook oh ffs
04:24 dcook Ooh...I found a nicer way using the focus event
04:18 mtompset If it kind-of works, even in a busted way, that's good enough (for Microsoft). ;)
04:17 * dcook shrugs
04:17 mtompset I thought the smallest real time slice in Windows was 55 milliseconds. ;)
04:16 dcook Nope. 1 millisecond appears to be enough to tell the browser, "Hey! Look! I'm trying to print something so don't bloody re-direct the page yet!"
04:15 mtompset don't you mean 55 milliseconds?
04:13 dcook It only needs a millisecond delay
04:13 dcook How do folk feel about using "setTimeout" to prevent IE re-directing before printing a page?
03:15 dcook $(^@%#
03:03 dcook Well, maybe not impossible..
03:03 dcook Or it's impossible to fix
03:02 dcook Now that I think about it...I want to say I fixed this in master...or maybe a different part of Koha..
02:35 dcook Hmm, it seems it isn't processing the print(); command..
02:33 dcook Printing the cart in IE doesn't work :/
02:32 dcook Hmm, seems like we execute prints in a few different ways..
02:32 mtompset If exim4 is installed, then nullmailer won't install.
02:31 mtompset (well postfix or some other MTA)
02:11 dcook As for Koha packages, I haven't installed them on this vm yet
02:11 dcook Yep, I see exim4 in debian
02:10 eythian I'd expect exim4 as that's debian default
02:10 eythian I'd be surprised if it pulled in nullmailer
02:09 mtompset Yes. I am sure.
02:09 mtompset Are you talking about packages?
02:09 dcook A little whereis of nullmailer shows nothing
02:09 dcook Actually, are you sure about that, mtompset?
02:08 * dcook will have to keep that in mind when he goes poking around
02:08 dcook Oh?
02:07 mtompset nullmailer gets set up by default, if you don't have postfix setup, dcook.
01:21 rangi cool
01:20 gmcharlt as the branch name pg/clean implies, I plan to keep it relative stable, and will avoid rebasing it
01:19 gmcharlt FYI, my current pg branch is now http://git.librarypolice.com/?p=koha-galen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/pg/clean
01:01 trea ^^
01:01 mtj i know exim4 well enough to recommend postfix :)
00:59 eythian they sure are
00:58 trea exim4 mail logs are pretty obtuse
00:55 mtj http://www.infodocket.com/2013/12/11/koha-trademark-case-won-by-nz-trust/
00:48 eythian Postfix and exim4 are both pretty common, but I just know postfix best so I use it.
00:46 dcook Not that that is always a good thing I suppose
00:46 dcook It certainly seems popular if nothing else
00:45 dcook Awesome. Thanks for the help, rangi and eythian :)
00:45 rangi postfix seems to be the most secure/simple/robust
00:45 rangi or exim4 or nullmailer or whatever
00:45 dcook Sweeet
00:45 rangi exactly
00:45 dcook So if you have Postfix listening on port 25, you're all good
00:45 rangi unless you monkey round with it to get it to talk to another host
00:45 dcook Mmm, right. That makes sense.
00:45 rangi tries to talk to something on port 25 on localhost
00:44 rangi nope Sendmail.pm
00:44 dcook At least by default, me thinks
00:44 dcook It uses Sendmail.pm to send it out port 25?
00:44 dcook I'm trying to remember how Koha email works.
00:43 dcook I seem to remember postfix being the recommendation a little while back
00:43 eythian So I'd install postfix.
00:43 eythian if you have sendmail installed, you have an MTA. I don't envy you having to configure it though.
00:42 eythian sendmail is an mta
00:40 dcook I'll just have to remember to keep it on "the list"
00:40 dcook Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I don't really have a desire to set up a mail server, but I figure setting up Postfix to forward emails out to users shouldn't be too bad
00:39 rangi even if its a simple one that just forwards
00:39 dcook Thanks for the confirmation :)
00:39 dcook Dinger. I figured that would be the case.
00:39 rangi you need an MTA
00:38 dcook Do you need to set up a separate MTA like Postfix or can Koha send email just using Sendmail?
00:38 dcook Quick question for Koha's Debian package users...
00:36 dcook ^^
00:31 rangi "I consider there is a real risk that consumers who are confronted with the applicant's KOHA library system will be mislead into thinking that the software is the Trust's free and open source Koha software. Therefore I consider that the use of the opposed mark by the applicant would amount to a breach of the Fair Trading Act 1986,'
00:30 dcook I think that's one of the more succinct articles that I've read about it so far
00:30 rangi that quote is perfect too
00:29 dcook \o/
00:27 rangi hitting the big nz papers now (thats the big auckland one)
00:27 rangi http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11172076
00:22 dcook Good ol' ABC...
00:22 dcook Mmm pierogi...
00:21 wahanui okay, eythian.
00:21 eythian wahanui: australia is also https://twitter.com/BR3NDA/status/410647513633284096/photo/1
00:21 wahanui i heard australia was pretty great in a lot of ways, but they are woefully deficient in the pierogi department...
00:21 eythian wahanui: australia