Time Nick Message 00:37 wizzyrea @quote random 00:37 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #54: "<@gmcharlt> from my POV, bug wrangling expands to fill all available volunteers" (added by jwagner at 08:05 PM, February 09, 2010) 00:38 wizzyrea @quote random 00:38 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #22: "<jdavidb> owen: you wouldn't know this, being the skinny thing you are, but it is also good for maintaining a panoramic physique, like mine." (added by gmcharlt at 04:24 PM, August 06, 2009) 00:38 wizzyrea mmmm bacon 00:52 wizzyrea @quote random 00:52 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs lotion" (added by gmcharlt at 03:05 AM, May 31, 2009) 00:52 eythian I assume you had to be there. 00:53 wizzyrea no clue on that one. 00:53 wizzyrea it's quote #1 00:54 wizzyrea @quote random 00:54 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #274: "eythian: you should have a separate server because messing on production is always a Bad Idea" (added by wizzyrea at 04:20 AM, September 02, 2013) 00:55 eythian I might have said that, but right now I'm messing on production... 00:55 wizzyrea it's a *guideline* 00:55 wizzyrea besides, rules are made to be broken 00:56 wizzyrea (especially when you are well versed in the rules) 00:56 wizzyrea (as you are) 00:56 wizzyrea @quote random 00:56 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #6: "gmcharlt: kf: hold requests are a plot to sell more aspirin ;)" (added by wizzyrea at 04:13 PM, June 16, 2009) 00:56 wizzyrea @quote random 00:56 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011) 00:56 wizzyrea ask? 00:56 wahanui Don't ask to ask, just ask. 00:57 wizzyrea can I ask a question? 00:57 wizzyrea can I ask a question is <reply> Don't ask to ask, just ask. 00:57 wizzyrea can I ask a question? 00:57 wizzyrea bother. 00:59 wizzyrea @quote random 00:59 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #92: "<schuster> Why even learn when there is a genius in the room..." (added by jwagner at 01:43 PM, August 27, 2010) 00:59 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 00:59 wizzyrea @quote delete 92 00:59 huginn wizzyrea: downloading the Perl source 00:59 wizzyrea @quote 00:59 huginn wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 01:00 wizzyrea @quote help 01:00 huginn wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready 01:00 wizzyrea hrmph. 02:40 wizzyrea gosh, where is everybody. 03:01 eythian @later tell gmcharlt can you please push bug 11284 for me? 03:01 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 03:56 dcook Afternoon #koha 03:57 dcook Just letting you all know that you're wonderful and awesome and stuff 04:01 wizzyrea golly, well you're not so bad yourself. 04:02 dcook Just glad to be on board! 04:16 WaylonR hiya all! 04:36 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 04:43 WaylonR hey mtompset 04:43 wahanui mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. 04:43 mtompset Greetings, WaylonR. Not tonight, thanks for the reminder. ;) 04:44 mtompset I think I may get to it tomorrow. 04:44 mtompset No promises, just best guesses. 04:44 WaylonR what minsitry is wahanui referring to, anyway? 04:47 mtompset I'll private chat with you about it. No sense flooding the logs with it. :) 05:21 mtompset Have a great day, #koha WaylonR. 05:24 mtompset https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1466046_329334733875452_713624449_n.jpg 05:24 mtompset (thought the channel might like the "Christmas" tree) 05:52 mtj hey peeps, its is possible to craft a URL to search an ISBN, in Koha? 05:53 dcook Probs 05:53 dcook -> /cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=nb&q=123456789&limit= 05:55 mtj ahh, idx=nb 05:55 mtj nb == isbn ? 05:56 dcook At least in 3.8.0 05:56 dcook It's possible that someone has updated that, but that's what one of my instances says 05:58 mtj dcook++ works nicely :) 05:59 dcook Sweet. I'm glad it worked :) 05:59 mtj im sure i've discovered and forgotten that about 5 times, in the last 5 years 06:05 mtj dcook, pushing my luck here… do you recall an index for ISSN too? 06:09 dcook ns 06:10 dcook Btw, I'm just looking at the source html on the search and advanced search of the OPAC for these :p 06:10 dcook A person could use records.abs or the DOM equivalent too, of course.. 06:22 mtj awesome dcook++, thanks again :) 06:22 dcook np :) 06:48 * cait waves good morning 06:48 dcook hey ya cait 07:49 reiveune hello 07:49 wahanui hello, reiveune 08:03 tester Hi, is there anyone willing to help me with importing access library to koha please? Im having difficulty while importing.. 08:12 * cait waves 08:15 gaetan_B hello 08:16 cait hi gaetan_B :) 08:18 gaetan_B hi cait:) wie geht's ? 08:35 gaetan_B hmm is there a bug in 3.12 when cancelling holds ? 08:35 cait gaetan_B: hm haven't heard of one yet - what's the behaviour? 08:36 gaetan_B i cancel the holds in the circulation interface, on the biblio record page, there are no reservations displayed, but it stays on the patron card, no matter how many times i try to cancel them ! 08:37 cait that doesn't sound too good 08:37 gaetan_B it might be that the customer i am testing this at did some strange things with the database before though 08:37 cait maybe try a fresh hold and cancel it? 08:37 cait on another database, just to check? 08:40 gaetan_B hmmf definitely something worng in the database : i made anoter reservation for another patron in the same one, and was able to cancel it, so i guess there was some manual intervention in there deleting lines at one point 08:40 gaetan_B and the reservations displayed on a biblio record don't come from the same table as the ones displayed on a patron record then, which is weird 08:42 cait that really is 08:42 cait iw oudl think both should come from reserves 08:42 cait that's the only place where we can get the info from 08:42 cait maybe it's a broken line in there? 08:42 cait you could look up reserves with the borrowernumber maybe 08:47 gaetan_B well the only obvious differences in the table between a reservation i could cancel and the ones that persist are that the reservenotes are empty for the persisting ones (it was null for the other one) and the content of the constrainttype column, which is "a" for the persisting ones (was "o" for the other one) i don't really know what this column is 08:49 cait hmm 08:50 cait is it a serial? 08:50 cait i think the only other constrainttype i have encounteres so far was seirals trying to put holds on issues 08:50 cait and that is not really working currently :( 08:50 cait but it led to weird holds 08:52 gaetan_B the one i could cancel was a serial 08:53 cait did it have a subscription linked to it? 08:53 gaetan_B another difference is that the one that persist are for a specific item (i.e. reserves.itemnumber is not null) 08:53 cait there is a pref to turn off that it tries to do holds for people on a routing list 08:53 gaetan_B i see 08:53 gaetan_B i don't think this is the case here though 08:53 cait hm ok 09:00 gaetan_B thinking of a more brutal solution : is the only consequence of deleting those reservers directly in the database that i am not going to have them in old_reserves ? 09:03 gaetan_B hmm and if i check one of the books in, i don't get a message saying koha found a reservation for it, so it's not looking in the reserves table to find this information ? 09:03 gaetan_B that would be really strange... 09:10 gaetan_B that's what i get in the error log : 09:10 gaetan_B [Wed Nov 27 10:08:45 2013] [error] [client 138.195.9.7] [Wed Nov 27 10:08:45 2013] modrequest.pl: Use of uninitialized value within @itemnumber in string ne at /home/koha/kohaclone/reserve/modrequest.pl line 69, <DATA> line 581., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/members/moremember.pl?borrowernumber=861 09:12 gaetan_B wow this is much uglier than i thought 09:13 gaetan_B the biblionumber in the reserves table is not the one displayed in the patrons holds tab O_o 09:13 gaetan_B i do see the hold when i look at the right bibliographic record 09:15 gaetan_B i have no idea where this other number comes from, it seems this display is fetching information from somewhere else than the reserves table 09:19 gaetan_B well, i cancelled the reservations from the biblio records and my problem is solved, i am not exactly satisfied with this though... 09:23 cait gaetan_B: i think deleting from reserves shoudl be save 10:45 slef Hi. Is anyone here from Indian Agricultural Statistics Research Institute (IASRI) PUSA? 10:56 cait slef: I don't think there is 10:56 cait very seldomly someone from india and probably a bad time now 11:04 slef cait: someone from that place just tried to upload a huge marc file that took the demo offline, so I was hoping I could talk with them before banning them and/or limiting upload size. 11:11 cait slef: understandable 11:11 cait and nice, but ihaven't seen someone. maybe there is an email somewhere? 11:12 slef yeah maybe but I'll wait and ban if they reoffend 11:12 slef probably with a nice "please email us" sign 11:12 cait you could put a note on the front page :) 11:14 slef good idea 11:14 slef add it as a news item 12:08 gaetan_B bye ! 12:23 pug Im from India - not IASRI though - 12:24 pug slef - you wish to connect with the at IASRI? 12:25 pug I can possibly help with that - 12:26 pug slef - which server/demo-installation is this? 12:27 slef pug: http://library.software.coop demo 12:28 slef pug: but not a problem. I'll put a notice up 12:28 pug k - let me know if you feel compelled to reach out - I can have someone look for the right person there- and then connect you. 13:42 cait nengard: around? 13:42 nengard yup 13:43 cait could you take a look at the proposed change on 6837? I think it needs to be a pref to be sure 13:43 cait but not sure if I am too strict 13:43 nengard bug 6837 13:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6837 normal, P5 - low, ---, barry, Needs Signoff , When AllowOnShelfHolds is OFF then holds on records with available items should not be possible 13:54 nengard sorry had to run the pups out - reading now 14:00 cait np 14:01 nengard cait added my 2 cents 14:08 cait thx 14:35 slef @search Wide character in compress at /usr/share/perl5/PDF/Reuse.pm line 819 14:35 huginn slef: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables. 14:35 slef @query Wide character in compress at /usr/share/perl5/PDF/Reuse.pm line 819 14:35 huginn slef: No results for "Wide character in compress at /usr/share/perl5/PDF/Reuse.pm line 819." 14:35 slef @query Wide character in compress 14:35 huginn slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Signed Off , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF 15:13 cait Joubu++ 15:35 gmcharlt @quote random 15:35 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #77: "*chris_n wants to know if nengard figures out how to do 1 million things at once... and if she will release the source code or not" (added by jdavidb at 05:02 PM, June 21, 2010) 15:38 gmcharlt @later tell eythian will you please supply a 3.14.x patch for 11284 that applies cleanly to that branch? 15:38 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 15:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11284: Packaging updates for master branch <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8067a798c9cf5c7d6f8797b75649903b42a4a3c2> 15:45 * cait offers gmcharlt cookies 15:47 gmcharlt yum! 15:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #238 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:52 jenkins_koha Starting build #1526 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: Cleaning up docs/history.txt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=52ddf688448eaa5acffdc531f748f336babded5e> / Bug 7143: New release team for Koha 3.16 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=68a0164e22593ba0d9f958d9a11ac7fc42c830a7> 16:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11308: fix RSS page in bootstrap theme <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=71a3516d211600d35e4ddeef45f5403affc09598> 16:08 reiveune bye 16:40 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #238: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/238/ 16:40 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 11284: Packaging updates for master branch 16:40 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7143: New release team for Koha 3.16 16:40 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7143: Cleaning up docs/history.txt 16:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11284 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Patch doesn't apply , Package related updates for the new release 16:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 16:40 jenkins_koha Starting build #239 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11304: fix display of detail page holdings tab in translated Bootstrap theme <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b80e77f84dd864342220b89acd1210ac53a3f70> / Bug 11283: make restriction type translatable <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a76f4298c0fb298cca0db31b04c0d8d5c028531> 17:31 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #239: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/239/ 17:31 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 11308: fix RSS page in bootstrap theme 17:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11308 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , RSS feed is slightly broken in bootstrap theme 17:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #240 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:42 chris_n off topic question: any suggestions on a well-developed open source webmail system? 17:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1526: SUCCESS in 2 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1526/ 17:52 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 11284: Packaging updates for master branch 17:52 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7143: New release team for Koha 3.16 17:52 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7143: Cleaning up docs/history.txt 17:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11284 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Patch doesn't apply , Package related updates for the new release 17:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 17:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #1527 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:58 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11105: wrap places OPAC facet in a span <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9900b0d35bcd27483355f19985a9669e1c884e2> / Bug 11275: (follow-up) update DBIC schema class files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f4b0a5064a97f775ada288d0269c4891589da4c> / Bug 11275: DBRev 3.15.00.002 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a838acf6a6ed536db 18:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11286: fix bug preventing adding a new subfield to an authority framework <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c50683e0d6412b29144962e7f5d539fec28da04> / Bug 11171: (follow-up) fix a javascript error <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5281fd41ec4b2f0c497d75550e2c865d96183d8> / Bug 11171: Display basket group name on the supplier list page <http://git.koha-commu 18:21 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #240: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/240/ 18:21 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11283: make restriction type translatable 18:21 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 11304: fix display of detail page holdings tab in translated Bootstrap theme 18:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11283 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Restriction type is not translatable 18:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11304 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Bootstrap OPAC detail page doesn't display holding tabs properly 18:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #241 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:27 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 18:28 mtompset Anyone want a tiny bug to sign off? ;) 18:28 druthb http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/nope.gif 18:29 * mtompset laughs. 18:29 mtompset Greetings, druthb. 18:30 druthb hi, mtompset! :) 18:31 mtompset Greetings, nengard cait. :) 18:31 cait hi mtompset 18:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11214: improve create/edit routing list links in serial collection page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c631934de5adf5c8d9d35aaaf94a19134f4a166> 18:34 nengard hiya 18:34 * chris_n finds it interesting that one cannot simply add new keywords to the keywords field in BZ 18:35 chris_n it appears one must select only keywords which have been added to a list administratively 18:35 chris_n seems a bit inconvenient 18:35 cait you can use tags 18:35 mtompset Slightly, but I would think it would help clarify things together. 18:35 cait those are uncontrolled :) 18:36 mtompset I think of C4/Auth.pm and someone else thinks of C4::Auth, and someone else thinks of Auth module, etc. 18:36 chris_n having a zillion tags render them useless thought, don't you think? 18:36 chris_n I think most sites which allow the use of keywords allow the user to add whatever 18:37 cait hm not sure i understand the problems with tags 18:37 cait tags are also personal 18:37 wahanui okay, cait. 18:37 cait keywords are public 18:38 chris_n that's what I need, public not personal 18:38 chris_n keywords help searches return more relevant results 18:38 cait what's the keyword you have i nmind? 18:38 cait i think gmcharlt or rangi could add it 18:38 chris_n lots 18:38 chris_n too much trouble :P 18:39 cait you could add them in a comment 18:40 chris_n right, but then why have a keyword field? (playing the devil's advocate here) 18:40 cait chris_n: you won't suggest cataloguing our bugs in MARc... right? 18:40 chris_n LOL 18:40 cait :) 18:40 gmcharlt @quote add <cait> you won't suggest cataloguing our bugs in MARC... right? 18:40 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #284 added. 18:41 cait heh 18:41 chris_n then we could use koha as our bug tracker, heh? 18:41 cait how cool would that be! 18:41 cait :P 18:41 * gmcharlt knows of at least one vendor that used a fork of their ILS as their customer ticket system for a while 18:42 gmcharlt I do not particular recommend it :) 18:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7484: keep selected values when changing search type on authority search form <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=85642ededaf71b0a67805151937014f42deea2dd> 18:42 cait i know one where the bug tracker is integrated 18:42 chris_n well, it would allow for things like 'click here for an illustration of this bug' 18:42 chris_n and such 18:44 chris_n gmcharlt: what do you think of a call number splitting option which would allow the user to define a regexp for use via a syspref 18:45 cait i would like it 18:45 cait most libraries here have their own classifications 18:45 cait neither using ddc nor loc... 18:45 gmcharlt chris_n: no particular objection, though hopefully we can avoid forcing most libraries to have to use it 18:45 cait and i havde one that would like to leave out the last x letters or something from the labels 18:46 chris_n it may not be too difficult to allow them to enter N regexp's for any number of custom splits 18:46 chris_n I'm thinking of those who decide to muck with the "standards" 18:46 chris_n it really is hard to anticipate every possible numbering system :-) 18:46 cait but would it work for those who have their own standard too? :) 18:47 gmcharlt chris_n: re bug tagging, I've enabled the "status whiteboard" option 18:47 chris_n cait: assuming someone could write a regexp to split it, yes 18:47 gmcharlt this adds a field that allows free-text data entry, and is meant for publicly accessible tags and status information 18:47 cait most of them have some kind of structure, so I am hopeful 18:47 chris_n cool 18:49 cait gmcharlt++ 18:49 chris_n gmcharlt: so is this field searched in the bugzilla simple search? 18:49 gmcharlt chris_n: let's see 18:50 gmcharlt chris_n: yep, looks that way 18:50 chris_n fantastic 18:54 chris_n hmm... I see the problem now... the simple search does not include resolved bugs 18:54 chris_n not sure of the best way to avoid that sort of thing 18:57 cait chris_n: just type ALL at the beginning 18:57 cait then it will include the closed ones as well 19:00 chris_n cait++ 19:00 cait :) 19:00 chris_n that solves the problem nicely 19:00 * chris_n hands cait a peanut butter cookie with receis (SP) pieces on top 19:01 cait receis? 19:01 chris_n hmmm 19:01 chris_n those chocolate coated candies with peanut butter in the middle sort of like M&Ms 19:01 * chris_n can't spell 19:02 cait we do't have a lot of peanut butter sweets here 19:02 cait do you mean reeses? tht looks wrong too heh 19:02 chris_n wow 19:02 rambutan peanut brittle? 19:02 chris_n yeah 19:02 gmcharlt Reeses </pedantic> 19:02 chris_n man did I butcher that one 19:02 gmcharlt er, also redundant 19:02 cait i like those - thank you :) 19:02 gmcharlt oops 19:02 cait I didn't have the capital R :) 19:03 mtompset Why is the default level of a bug listed as enhancement? 19:03 * chris_n has a strong dislike for peanut butter and has been looking to get rid of these cookies all day 19:03 cait lol 19:03 cait you can give me all of them then :) 19:03 * chris_n hands over the whole bag :) 19:03 * gmcharlt dives in at the moment of handoff and grabs a couple 19:03 cait hehe 19:04 * cait offers the bag to gmcharlt 19:04 * gmcharlt takes a few, more politely this time 19:04 gmcharlt ;) 19:04 cait ;) 19:04 chris_n lol 19:05 mtompset http://youtu.be/FgpgNqxbe0E 19:05 mtompset (all your cookies are belong to me) 19:06 * chris_n tries to imagine a blue fuzzy gmcharlt gobbling cookies up 19:06 cait *giggles* 19:08 gmcharlt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye8mB6VsUHw 19:12 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #241: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/241/ 19:12 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11275: make deleteditems.materials be of type text 19:12 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11275: DBRev 3.15.00.002 19:12 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11275: (follow-up) update DBIC schema class files 19:12 jenkins_koha * Rachel Dustin: Bug 11105: wrap places OPAC facet in a span 19:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11275 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , make deleteditems.materials of type text 19:12 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11171: Display basket group name on the supplier list page 19:12 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11171: (follow-up) fix a javascript error 19:12 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11286: fix bug preventing adding a new subfield to an authority framework 19:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11105 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Master , label - opac - places on facets not easily css selectable 19:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11171 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The basket group is not displayed on the supplier list page 19:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11286 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Bug 10602 prevents to create new subfields in authorities 19:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #242 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1527: SUCCESS in 2 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1527/ 19:53 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11308: fix RSS page in bootstrap theme 19:53 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11283: make restriction type translatable 19:53 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 11304: fix display of detail page holdings tab in translated Bootstrap theme 19:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11308 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , RSS feed is slightly broken in bootstrap theme 19:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11283 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Restriction type is not translatable 19:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11304 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Bootstrap OPAC detail page doesn't display holding tabs properly 19:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #1528 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:03 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #242: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/242/ 20:03 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11214: improve create/edit routing list links in serial collection page 20:03 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7484: keep selected values when changing search type on authority search form 20:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11214 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Allow create routing list in serial collection page 20:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7484 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Keeping typed values when searching for authorities 20:19 SlyzertVoltrond how do i change the opac koha logo to a different size image in bootstrap theme? 20:20 SlyzertVoltrond i tried changing it in css, can't get it to work 20:21 * wizzyrea hasn't ever tried to do it 20:21 wizzyrea also good morning. 20:23 SlyzertVoltrond it's 4am+ here ;) 20:23 cait hm thought oleonard had some hints somewhere about customizing the new opac 20:23 cait but can't find it 20:24 SlyzertVoltrond really? 20:24 SlyzertVoltrond i'll try to look for it 20:24 wizzyrea probably on his blog 20:25 cait hm looks like an old entry only 20:25 cait weird 20:25 cait i didn't find it with a search for bootstrap 20:25 cait but with google 20:25 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bootstrap_OPAC 20:26 cait hm nothing about the logos yet, but maybe some helpful pointers about hte structure in general 20:27 wizzyrea mmm 20:27 SlyzertVoltrond yeah, already check it 20:27 SlyzertVoltrond unfornately didn't help much in my case 20:53 rangi heh, i kinda like how catamount do all their planning on a publicly archived mailing list :) 20:55 wizzyrea hey, koha is all about openness. 20:56 trea :) 21:02 cait catamount? 21:04 rangi see the koha list 21:04 cait ooh 21:05 cait do you think we should point it out? or just show up for the meeting? :) 21:05 rangi heh 21:05 rangi i think wizzyrea is gonna drop them a mail 21:06 wizzyrea I emailed them. 21:20 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMhiFoEjXc4 <-- needs sound 21:21 jcamins Hm. Fennel salad with cranberry is interesting. 21:21 cait hi peggy 21:22 cait jcamins: interesting good or interesting bad? 21:22 jcamins Good. 21:22 peggy Hi Cait! How's things? 21:22 cait peggy: did you see your patch was pushed? and congrats :) 21:22 jcamins But it's almost like a completely different recipe. 21:22 peggy Yes. I was so excited. It is in 3.10, too! Now I just need to get it into 3.12 because that's the version I'll be on very soon. 21:23 wizzyrea which bug? 21:23 cait hm think only in 3.14 so far? 21:23 peggy 11040? 21:23 cait bug 11040? :) 21:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11040 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, p.thrasher, Pushed to Master , Add option to print regular slip to CircAutoPrintQuickSlip 21:24 rangi peggy: tcohen is on his honeymoon, but im if you ask him nicely, he might cherry-pick it back to 3.12.x 21:24 SlyzertVoltrond a quick question 21:24 rangi (when he gets back that is ;)) 21:24 SlyzertVoltrond which part do i have to modify in css if i want to shave off the top and bottom margin between koha logo and the blue header in old "prog" theme? 21:24 peggy Do I need to test it in 3.12? 21:24 SlyzertVoltrond i hope i'm making sense 21:25 peggy Or make the edits in the specific 3.12 version? 21:25 cait peggy: only if it doesn't apply 21:25 wizzyrea usually, if it applies to prior versions the rmaints will grab it and add it without you having to do anything. 21:25 wizzyrea but it's kind of a feature, so I'm not sure they will 21:26 jcamins wizzyrea: if it was backported to 3.10, it'll get backported to 3.12. 21:26 peggy That's pretty sweet! 21:26 wizzyrea it hasn't been backported to anything, yet (according to bugzilla) 21:26 wizzyrea it's pretty new though 21:26 peggy I thought it was in 3.10... 21:26 wizzyrea nope, 3.14 21:26 jcamins wizzyrea: oh. Never mind then. I thought Peggy said it was in 3.10. 21:26 peggy OK. 21:27 rangi https://www.irccloud.com/ <-- coolish idea 21:27 wizzyrea you could ask on the bug if it is going to be backported 21:27 wizzyrea *nod* 21:27 peggy That I can do... Good idea 21:27 wizzyrea that one's fuzzy, it's kind of a feature, but it's kind of a bug. 21:27 wizzyrea bugs get backported, features don't 21:27 peggy Exactly. But if it got into 3.12 I would be a hero at my library. 21:28 wizzyrea :) 21:28 rangi :) 21:28 wizzyrea can't hurt to ask 21:28 wizzyrea you have a patch in Koha, you're a hero already :) 21:28 peggy Gee, thanks!! 21:28 * cait agrees with wizzyrea 21:29 peggy The next thing I'll look at is either notices or fines. 21:29 bag peggy++ 21:29 peggy Which needs more attention? 21:29 rangi peggy: did you see you are on the dashboard page? 21:29 wizzyrea you should be aware there's an accounts rewrite in progress. 21:29 rangi http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ 21:29 wahanui http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ are the better stats to optimise 21:29 wizzyrea notices. 21:29 wahanui notices are all the defaults, they look fine. 21:29 bag ah peggy khall_away is currently rewriting the fines module 21:29 wizzyrea forget notices 21:29 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot notices 21:30 cait the account rewrite needs testing probably - so that would be good too 21:30 bag so hopefully that passes things quickly 21:30 wizzyrea yep, testing would be helpful for fines. 21:30 wizzyrea not so much fixing things, not on the current system. 21:30 peggy The problem with notices is that many/most are not configurable by branch, and it was really unclear to me how to set them up. 21:30 cait hm which version are you on currently peggy? 21:30 peggy I could help test. 21:31 wizzyrea yea, geez, most of them are configurable by branch now. 21:31 peggy 3.10. Soon to be 3.12 21:31 cait hm the notices rewrite is in 3.10 21:31 cait are you thinking about a specific notice? 21:31 wizzyrea ^^ 21:31 eythian hi 21:31 bag yes they are configurable by branch 21:31 wizzyrea sup eythian 21:31 cait hi eythian 21:31 bag heya eythian 21:31 wahanui eythian is an expert bot trainer 21:32 peggy Particularly due and predue. 21:32 wizzyrea both of those are configurable by branch 21:33 peggy I have not been able to make it work. There is a question about whether the notices for different branches should have the same code. 21:33 wizzyrea the short version is - you go to notices and slips, look for DUE say "copy to <branch> 21:33 wizzyrea then edit the new one. 21:33 peggy But that isn't the one that is sent. 21:33 wizzyrea yes, they would have to have the same code. ^ that way is easiest 21:34 eythian SlyzertVoltrond: You'd probably need to find a web designery person, or spend a while messing around with it and firebug, to figure that out. 21:34 wizzyrea is the borrower a member of the library the notice is for? 21:34 peggy But we had some problem with overdues where we needed to give each a different name. because other wise they were being sent with no data on the items due. 21:34 wizzyrea errr 21:34 peggy Yes, they should always be. 21:35 peggy So what I'm saying is that it looks simple and logical, but it didn't seem to work as advertised. 21:35 wizzyrea that doesn't seem like standard behaviour. Were you trained in using the notices at all? 21:35 peggy We were told to copy the notices to the different branches and then edit them. Which we did. 21:36 peggy What training would be helpful? 21:36 bag which seems right to me peggy 21:36 wizzyrea just curious - because I haven't seen it not work in that way. 21:36 SlyzertVoltrond eythian: ok, thanks 21:37 peggy The overdues could be customized, and the correct notice was sent, but we had a bunch of times where the title, author, callnumber etc. was missing. So the message said something like "return your late stuff: ,,:barcode;" 21:37 wizzyrea cait - have you ever seen that problem? 21:37 peggy or something like that. 21:38 cait hm 21:38 wizzyrea i mean, we've seen the "no item data in notices" thing 21:38 cait we don't have a case yet where we have different notices for different branches 21:38 wizzyrea it's always bad formatting 21:38 cait because they are coming from 3.6 21:38 wizzyrea of the <item></item> tag 21:38 cait i think for overdues it makes sense 21:38 cait it does probably not find the right notice or something, and it should be no problem to name them differently 21:39 cait because then you can use the notice triggers easily to configure 21:39 cait for due and predue i assume the code must be the same 21:39 cait for all different branches 21:39 peggy Right. We did name them differently, and I don't think we've seen that problem since. 21:39 cait because it especially looks for the code 21:39 wizzyrea ^ 21:39 cait i haven't tested it myself tho 21:39 wizzyrea certainly we don't have bugs for those things 21:39 wizzyrea so file them ;) 21:39 peggy We haven't been able to get predue or due notices customized. 21:40 cait i remember kyle? added a red note to some notice templates about branches 21:40 cait in 3.12/3.14 21:40 cait going to take a look at that 21:40 peggy Yes, that the branch info will be for the patron's home branch. 21:40 cait i thin it might be a difference if you send digests or not 21:41 cait hm that's what the new note on Due Digest says: 21:41 cait arning, this is a template for a Digest, as such, any references to branch data ( e.g. branches.branchname ) will refer to the borrower's home branch. 21:41 cait so nothing about it not working for different branches 21:41 cait if it doesn't i would really recommend filing a bug 21:41 cait because the interface says it should, so it should 21:41 cait or we need to fix 21:41 peggy Why would anyone want to send an indvidual predue/due notices? 21:41 cait peggy: we have libraries doing that, but i don't recommend it 21:42 cait i guess they think it's harder to delete by accident if you spam with 20 mails at once? :) 21:42 peggy Drives my patrons nuts! But I think that I've finally figured out the digest stuff. And I'll roll that out next week. 21:43 cait :) 21:43 peggy Where can I find out about running the cron job by hand on my test system? In the real world my support company has control over that. 21:44 rangi peggy: in /etc/cron.d/koha-common 21:44 rangi /etc/cron.daily/koha-common 21:44 rangi and cron.hourly too 21:45 rangi on your test box, that will have the cron jobs 21:45 cait you can run them with -h to see what options you can use 21:46 peggy OK. I'll play with that a bit. See if I can get some good test cases that either show that it works or that it doesn't. 21:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1528: SUCCESS in 2 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1528/ 21:53 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11275: make deleteditems.materials be of type text 21:53 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11275: DBRev 3.15.00.002 21:53 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11275: (follow-up) update DBIC schema class files 21:53 jenkins_koha * Rachel Dustin: Bug 11105: wrap places OPAC facet in a span 21:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11275 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , make deleteditems.materials of type text 21:53 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11171: Display basket group name on the supplier list page 21:53 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11171: (follow-up) fix a javascript error 21:53 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11286: fix bug preventing adding a new subfield to an authority framework 21:53 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11214: improve create/edit routing list links in serial collection page 21:53 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7484: keep selected values when changing search type on authority search form 21:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11105 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Master , label - opac - places on facets not easily css selectable 21:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11171 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The basket group is not displayed on the supplier list page 21:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11286 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Bug 10602 prevents to create new subfields in authorities 21:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11214 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Allow create routing list in serial collection page 21:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7484 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Keeping typed values when searching for authorities 22:17 cait good night all 22:36 ibeardslee http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/nov/25/young-adult-readers-prefer-printed-ebooks 22:38 dcook Interesting read, ibeardslee 22:40 eythian I was wondering what a printed ebook was... 22:40 aorangi this irccloud thing is kinda cool, doubt id pay for it when its out of beta tho, i can do the same as it with bip for free 22:41 dcook eythian: Same 22:41 dcook aorangi: irccloud? 22:41 aorangi https://www.irccloud.com 22:44 dcook I suppose 5/month could be cheaper than running a server with bip on it though, if that was the only thing you wanted 22:44 dcook I wouldn't do it though 22:44 wizzyrea yea if you've already got a server to run bip on, just do that. 22:46 aorangi yep 22:48 rambutan I checked the irccloud link, couldn't figure out why I'd want it. "Stay connected even while offline"??? 22:50 rangi yep 22:50 rangi thats what i do 22:52 dcook It's handy if you want to see what people are saying without trawling the HTML logs 22:52 wizzyrea me too. 22:52 * dcook doesn't necessarily have a server to run bip (or any other irc bouncer on), so he doesn't 22:53 ibeardslee do you have a PC that is 'always on'? 22:54 dcook Nope 22:54 dcook In theory, I could leave my system at home on all the time, but... 22:55 ibeardslee a raspberry pi on all the time? 22:55 dcook On the list of things to do ;) 22:56 dcook To use it, I assume I'd have to open up the server to the internet as well. I'm still not sure what I think about doing that. 22:57 ibeardslee I have just my ssh port open from the internet 22:57 ibeardslee I run irssi in screen 22:58 ibeardslee ssh in with my ssh keys and run screen 22:58 dcook Hmm. Makes sense. 22:58 ibeardslee fail2ban helps slow down idiots trying to connect to my ssh port 22:58 dcook That would be the thing I would be less happy about 22:59 dcook Hmm fail2ban sounds handy.. 23:00 dcook I occasionally think about serving up content from home as well, although it would probably just always be test systems 23:00 dcook Need to sit down and read up more about opening up port 80 23:01 eythian it's fairly straight forward. 23:02 jcamins eythian: unless you're in the US. 23:02 ibeardslee of course even better would be to ignore port 80 and go to port 443 23:02 jcamins ibeardslee: unless you're in the US. 23:02 eythian jcamins: dcook is in .au I think. 23:02 jcamins In which case port 8443 is a good choice. 23:02 jcamins eythian: I know. 23:02 jcamins That was for the logs. 23:03 eythian oh ah 23:03 dcook Mmm, good call ibeardslee. 23:04 dcook I suppose I still have paranoid visions about opening up my home network. 23:05 ibeardslee 'should' be ok as long as you maintain updates and apply the same sort of logic and paranoia you would to a production server 23:06 dcook That's where things fall apart for me. I "think" I maintain updates, but I'm not entirely sure about the logic and paranoia needed for a production server. 23:06 dcook Aside from perhaps using things like fail2ban, monitoring logs/traffic, and having solid passwords 23:06 dcook Using encryption and ssh keys wherever possible 23:06 wizzyrea using key logins instead of passwords. 23:07 dcook I like the idea of eythian's yubikey as well 23:08 eythian that doesn't make the connection or internet interface any stronger, it just prevents keylogging getting your password. 23:12 dcook Seems pretty important. All the security in the world isn't going to do much good if a person has your password. 23:13 dcook Well, to a degree, I suppose...