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23:57 wizzyrea j/k, funny ;)
23:57 wizzyrea ...awkward
23:38 dcook Surely there must be a crossover of both..
23:38 dcook The boxing :p
23:38 dcook lol
23:35 bag I vote for THE fun
23:34 bag ;) :P
23:34 bag the porn or the boxing?
23:34 dcook Hopefully for fun/fitness rather than conflict resolution...
23:34 dcook Wife and I are thinking of taking it
23:34 dcook It was actually a boxing flyer for the gym :p
23:33 dcook I was rather surprised when I opened my bag
23:33 dcook Apparently!
23:32 bag dcook: you carrying porn in your backpack again?
23:26 dcook I think that might answer your question
23:26 dcook mrx: http://search.cpan.org/~gmcharlt/MARC-Record-2.0.3/lib/MARC/Field.pm#indicator(indno)
23:14 mrx another trivial query may be, what will be the best way to check indicators for a field? Again using MARC::Record
23:07 mrx totally agreed, getting the feeling now :)
23:06 dcook When MARC records seem to be having a fit for no particular reason, I find that it's often because of some bad leader data.
23:05 dcook The leader is especially sensitive as well.
23:03 pianohacker you're dealing with Perl and MARC, both of which can be pretty hostile to newbies. happy to help
23:02 mrx thanks heaps, I'm still too new to koha and yea kind of a newbie query..
22:55 pianohacker where $offset is the offset of the part you want to change, 1 is its length, and the bit in quotes is what you want to put there
22:54 pianohacker mrx: ah, more like: my $leader = $record->leader(); substr($leader, $offset, 1) = ' '; $record->leader($leader);
22:54 dcook Makes a certain amount of sense, I suppose. I don't know why a person would really want to delete Bsort1,Bsort2
22:54 dcook Yeah, looks like they must be hardcoded to exist
22:53 dcook eythian: Well, I just tried creating a category and value on master, and when I deleted the value, the category did disappear
22:53 eythian (just guessing though.)
22:53 eythian try it on a custom one perhaps, maybe they're hard-coded to exist?
22:53 eythian dcook: oh, you're right. I had it in my head that having no values meant the authorised value didn't exist.
22:53 dcook eythian: Hmm, might be a new behaviour
22:52 mrx pianohacker: oh ok, so something like $record->leader() = new substring.. will work?
22:52 dcook eythian: Doesn't seem like it. At least not for Asort1,Asort2,Bsort1,Bsort2
22:51 pianohacker mrx: You'd probably have to manually set it using substr and $record->leader()
22:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #122 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #119 3 hr 0 min ago)
22:50 eythian dcook: it probably says that until you navigate out of that screen
22:50 rangi now doing nice graphs so we can watch it increase :)
22:50 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/121/clover/
22:50 mrx no like as it can be done normally for other fields, field->update();
22:50 dcook In the Authorized Value section, it would say "There are no authorized values defined for X"
22:49 dcook eythian: How do you mean vanishes?
22:49 eythian dcook: you delete all the values and the category vanishes
22:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #121: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/121/
22:47 pianohacker mrx: From SQL, or how do you mean?
22:47 mrx Hi everyone, how to update nth character in leader?
22:46 dcook At least not in 3.8
22:46 dcook Huh...I never noticed that you can't delete an authorized value category from the UI
22:42 dcook Err, her morning
22:42 dcook I'll catch her in the morning :p
22:41 mtompset Join with a different name initially next time. :P
22:41 dcook hey mtompset and pianohacker
22:41 dcook Oh, I drove cait away
22:41 wahanui i think mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry.
22:41 pianohacker hey mtompset
22:40 mtompset Greetings, pianohacker. :)
22:40 mtompset Greetings, dcook. :)
22:40 cait night all :)
22:40 cait dcook is here... guess that's my clue to go to bed :)
22:39 dcook mornin'
22:36 mtompset well, let's give that a whirl. That would totally simplify my patch, which I'd like.
22:36 pianohacker html5++
22:36 pianohacker mtompset: yup
22:35 mtompset selected, not selected="selected"?
22:35 rangi <option value="value2" selected>Value 2</option>
22:35 pianohacker mtompset: If you've been editing the page bit-by-bit, do a force-reload (Ctrl-Shift-R)
22:35 mtompset as in selected single item shown.
22:35 mtompset I mean visible.
22:35 mtompset I thought I did, and it didn't become first.
22:34 rangi nope, just set the selected attribute thingy
22:33 mtompset Okay... next question for the general channel. What's the best way to force an option to be visible and selected in a dropdown upon loading? As far as I can tell, I have to have it as the first item added in the drop down.
22:32 rangi when i get around to it
22:32 rangi i plan to make builds fail, if coverage goes down
22:32 rangi excellent
22:32 mtompset Testing coverage will be going up. :)
22:32 rangi cool
22:32 mtompset Okay. I just use NewsChannels as an example, because of the bug I'm working on. :)
22:31 rangi but at least you are testing that stuff that depends on it, isnt exploding, ie if someone broke the method with a syntax error, the test would fail, so theres at least that much coverage
22:30 rangi ideally you test it at a lower level too
22:30 rangi so if you test somethign that in turns calls it, it gets covered by a test
22:29 mtompset True. :)
22:28 rangi or it would be a kinda pointless .pm eh
22:28 rangi koha code
22:27 mtompset some other koha code or testing code?
22:25 rangi and when its tested that is called
22:25 rangi undoubtedly some other code uses a method in there
22:23 mtompset There is only 1 .t file that I know of, and it only has a use_ok.
22:23 mtompset Okay... So, then how does it calculate the coverage?
22:22 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/120/clover/C4/C4/NewsChannels.pm/
22:21 mtompset Where is C4::NewsChannels?
22:21 rangi yes
22:21 mtompset Yes, but it "tests" (can you use it?) C4::NewsChannels.
22:21 pianohacker hah, I love it. C4::Koha is so old and crusty it's not even in the report
22:21 rangi you test what code your tests cover
22:21 rangi you dont test coverage of tests
22:21 rangi nothing
22:20 mtompset What is it included under?
22:20 mtompset For example t/Newschannels.t
22:20 mtompset That's not what I meant...
22:20 rangi clover
22:19 mtompset rangi: How did you generate that coverage report?
22:06 rangi could be
22:06 cait because not enough left to really start from - but not sure
22:06 cait i think some are not present currently
22:06 mtompset of Filipino.
22:06 mtompset Because technically Tagalog is mostly a subset a Filipino.
22:06 mtompset Perhaps someone moved the Tagalog one to Filipino?
22:05 rangi dunno where that went
22:05 rangi we used to have tagalog too
22:04 rangi http://translate.koha-community.org/fil/
22:04 rangi or at all
22:04 mtompset I'm going to try to convince my librarian colleague to take up the mantle. :)
22:04 rangi no one has really been translating it much
22:04 rangi ages ago
22:03 rangi it was probably generated from the armenian one at the start
22:03 mtompset http://translate.koha-community.org/fil/314/tl-PH-pref.po/translate/#filter=translated
22:03 mtompset I guess no one really checks these things, huh? :)
22:02 mtompset Hmmm... I just grabbed the Filipino po file, and it contained armenian.
22:02 mtompset Like joel68?
21:54 eythian yeah, my day for tech support I guess :)
21:53 cait oh lots of mails from eythian on the mailing list :)
21:52 rangi *nod*
21:51 cait i am not sure i want to look what is hiding in there
21:51 eythian C4::Utils a) needs test cases, b) they're probably easy to write. Might be a good project for someone wanting to get started.
21:51 cait looks
21:49 eythian rangi: oh, that's really good
21:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #121 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #119 1 hr 58 min ago)
21:46 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
21:46 rangi @later tell tcohen http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/120/clover/ <-- i got nicer coverage reports running
21:22 edveal I am afraid the problem is that they are textbooks
21:22 edveal Yes and not having any luck there either
21:21 bag :P
21:21 bag oh whoops edveal I see that you've already tried amicus
21:20 bag edveal: have you looked at amicus (I think that's the name and I think it's canadian)
21:19 edveal Does anyone know of a good z39.50 target for finding textbooks specifically Canadian textbooks? I know about irspy.com just not sure where to start there.
21:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #120: FAILURE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/120/
21:14 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
20:55 wahanui bidet, eythian
20:55 eythian hi
20:54 oleonard Yeah that change was necessary to make it more touch-friendly
20:53 cait i thought it was just a note like we used to have, didn#t get it was a menu
20:53 cait lol
20:53 cait i need to click on that
20:53 cait ugh.
20:52 cait when i click on cart, it says: items in your cart: 2
20:52 cait but the window doesn't open
20:52 cait the tooltip shows
20:52 cait oleonard: i will check that, firefox here too
20:51 oleonard Firefox
20:51 oleonard Works for me on the mykoha site too. Do you have JavaScript disabled?
20:51 cait oleonard: which browser are you using?
20:51 cait pianohacker: i have problems with the cart window not opening in current master and bootstrap - were wondering if someone else has the problem
20:50 pianohacker and hi druthb
20:50 pianohacker cait: what's up?
20:50 cait oleonard: it doesn't work for me, neither on my local maser nor on the mykoha one
20:50 oleonard It seems to be working for me cait
20:50 cait could you check something for me?
20:50 cait hi pianohacker
20:49 druthb herro, pianohacker!
20:49 pianohacker hallo
20:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap
20:49 wahanui an up to date demo of the Bootstrap OPAC can be found at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz - it's tracking from oleonard's branch bootstrap-opac on gitorious. Bug reports should be filed on bug 10309.
20:49 cait bootstrap?
20:48 wahanui noone is, like, here
20:48 cait noone?
20:42 cait i have searched, put my records into the cart, it shows 3 items... but it won't open the window
20:42 cait can someone confirm?
20:42 cait i am having problems opening the cart in the bootstrap theme
20:42 cait hmm
20:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #120 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:25 rangi ah ha, ill make it clean up the cover_db after the build run
20:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7764 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , INSTALL.ubuntu needs to be updated
20:19 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7764: (follow-up) editorial tweaks
20:19 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 7764: rework the INSTALL.ubuntu instructions
20:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #119: SUCCESS in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/119/
20:16 tcohen bye #koha
19:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #119 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FIXED)
19:46 tcohen i knew there was something wrong with the cover db!
19:46 tcohen only 25 minutes?
19:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #118: FIXED in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/118/
19:43 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
19:21 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help!
19:21 jenkins_koha tcohen did you mean me? Unknown command 'happy'
19:21 tcohen jenkins_koha: happy building this time please
19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10948 normal, P5 - low, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Stable , Some strings in the authority result list turned out untranslatable
19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5645 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Z39.50 search from search results not parsing query correctly
19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10967 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Stable , POD ERROR in acqui/booksellers.pl
19:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #118 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #115 5 hr 13 min ago)
19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10925 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , LDAP Auth fails if DEBUG is enable
19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9299 major, P3, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Stable , for loop in Auth_with_ldap.pm requires an extended patron attribute to be set or LDAP logins fail
19:18 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10948: make reference labels translatable in OPAC auth results
19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10663 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Holds never block renewals
19:18 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5645: improve converting simple search to Z39.50 search
19:18 jenkins_koha * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10967: fix minor POD error
19:18 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10925: fix LDAP auth failing if DEBUG is enabled
19:18 jenkins_koha * Srdjan: Bug 9299: fix LDAP login breakage when ExtendedPatronAttributes is on
19:18 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10663: (3.12.x followup) Rewrite some calls as unit tests rely on newer API
19:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #117: STILL FAILING in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/117/
19:16 tcohen thanks!
19:16 tcohen I see it
19:16 * rangi gotta take the kids to school
19:16 rangi that will make it start fresh
19:16 rangi maybe rm the cover_db dir
19:16 tcohen "Devel::Cover: Can't open t/ILSDI_Services.t for MD5 digest: No such file or directory"
19:15 rangi yeah that could be it
19:15 tcohen ok, maybe cover has a database of previously passed scripts
19:15 rangi so that wont be getting in the way now
19:15 rangi disbaled master_install
19:15 rangi it does a git checkout and runs from that
19:14 rangi that wont make any difference, the dir makes no difference only the config file
19:14 rangi also there is nothing in the cover telling it to run the ILSDI_Services.t
19:14 tcohen pointing to another db
19:14 tcohen i might instead generate a koha-dev-312 dir
19:14 rangi ill switch the the master_install one off
19:13 tcohen that happens when a master db is loaded
19:13 tcohen every while the tests fail because the column wthdrawn is not present
19:13 rangi master_install runs on bernardos, but that isnt really in use yet
19:13 rangi maria_master runs on galens
19:13 rangi master runs on the master jenkins
19:13 rangi and a config file for it, and then the tests would run using that config
19:12 tcohen weird
19:12 rangi but if you wanted a 3.10.x for example, you would make a 3.10.x database
19:12 rangi master is not running on bernardos node though
19:12 rangi tcohen: different config files
19:05 tcohen (in Bernardo's node)
19:04 tcohen 2) how can we set two different db's for 3.12.x and master?
19:04 tcohen 1) some patch moved t/ILSDI_Services.t tests to db_dependent, cover tests still complain about that missing
19:04 bag not bad eh oleonard ?
19:04 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 28.4°C (11:03 AM PST on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
19:04 bag @wunder 93102
19:03 tcohen both related to making jenkins_koha more useful :-D
19:03 tcohen have two questions for u
19:02 tcohen hi rangi
19:01 rangi cool
19:01 rangi :)
18:58 cait he talked to me earlier :)
18:57 cait so i think he did a follow up for that
18:57 cait because we miss some other changes from feature patches
18:56 cait unit tests were failing
18:52 rangi never mind, i see its already applied
18:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10663 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Holds never block renewals
18:51 rangi tcohen: does the 3.12.x followup patch on bug 10663 need a signoff, or is it fine (ie should we obsolete the other patches and set that bug to needs signoff?)
18:29 tcohen i (almost unintentionally) killed it, no worries
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10687 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , Delete erroneous tags 68a and 68b on default MARC21 auth framework
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10803 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , "Make payment" in circ is not easily translatable
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10924 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Contact note not updating via opac
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10911 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Records with 880 fields have broken details links in intranet search results using XSLT.
18:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #117 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #115 4 hr 23 min ago)
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10465 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , Reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT should be removed
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10847 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Open external link to website of a vendor in new tab/window
18:28 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10687: DBRev 3.12.06.001
18:28 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10687: (follow-up) remove authority 68a/68b tags from translated MARC21 framework scripts
18:28 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10687: Delete erroneous tags 68a and 68b on default MARC21 auth framework
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10305 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , _increment_barcode is called twice
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10888 normal, P5 - low, ---, paola.rossi, Pushed to Stable , Don't hide authorities module from users without permission to edit authorities
18:28 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10803: make "Make payment" in circ easier to translate
18:28 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10924: fix updating contact note from OPAC
18:28 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10911: fix invalid links when displaying records that have 880 fields
18:28 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10465: remove useless reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT files
18:28 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10847: Open link to vendor's website in new window
18:28 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10305 - _increment_barcode is called twice
18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7813 enhancement, P3, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Add ability to delete local cover images
18:28 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10888: Don't hide authorities module from users who lack permission to edit authorities
18:28 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7813: (follow-up) use descriptive text for delete link
18:28 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7813: (follow-up) improvements for deleting local cover images
18:28 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 7813: Ability to delete local cover images
18:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #116: FAILURE in 2 hr 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/116/
16:55 kf have to run - bye all
16:55 kf but not more than that i am afraid
16:55 kf we confirmed the problemn in 3.12.6
16:35 tcohen is anyone around involved with this patch?
16:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9299 major, P3, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Master , for loop in Auth_with_ldap.pm requires an extended patron attribute to be set or LDAP logins fail
16:35 tcohen bug 9299
16:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #116 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10622 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add --sip and --nosip switches to koha-list
16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10617 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Init script cleanup
16:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10622: (follow-up) uppercase "SIP" in documentation and help text
16:01 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 10622 - [SIGNED OFF] Followup: Add --sip, --nosip and --help to man page
16:01 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10622: add --sip and --nosip switches to koha-list
16:01 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10617 - koha-common init script cleanup
16:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #115: SUCCESS in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/115/
15:51 kf tcohen++
15:37 nengard blou are you in austin?
15:21 huginn blou: The current temperature in Waller Beach, Austin, Texas is 5.3°C (9:15 AM CST on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.69 in 1039 hPa (Rising).
15:21 blou @wunder austin,tx
15:20 huginn blou: Error: No such location could be found.
15:20 blou @wunder austin
15:15 * kf offers hot tea
15:13 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Windy Ridge, Athens, Ohio is 0.7°C (10:13 AM EST on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady).
15:13 oleonard @wunder 45701
15:10 nengard here too ...
15:10 huginn nengard: The current temperature in East Cesar Chavez, Austin, Texas is 4.9°C (9:10 AM CST on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.68 in 1039 hPa (Rising).
15:10 nengard @wunder 78741
15:10 nengard :(
15:06 * druthb reads the scrollback, and realizes that it is slightly colder in Houston this morning than it is in Norway, and cries.
15:00 reiveune bye
14:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10605 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Problems with translated cart email sent from OPAC
14:47 kf bug 10605
14:47 kf 10605
14:47 kf hm about the cart - i found the bug
14:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (3:20 PM CET on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Rising).
14:41 magnuse @wunder boo
14:39 * druthb pulled out a sweater this morning, for the first time since she moved here.
14:39 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Morningside Place, Houston, Texas is 4.5°C (8:32 AM CST on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: -999%. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Rising).
14:39 druthb @wunder 77098
14:39 kf yeah heretoo,but tnot that cold yet
14:38 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.2°C (3:35 PM CET on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady).
14:38 kf @wunder Konstanz
14:34 ebegin it gets colder now... :(
14:34 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -6.0°C (9:00 AM EST on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
14:34 ebegin @wunder montreal, quebec
14:24 peggy Thanks kf and Joubu!
14:23 kf so it's more obvious that koha can do that
14:23 kf maybe we shoud file abug to fix the default notices templates
14:22 peggy This will make my patrons unbelievably happy!
14:22 Joubu peggy: advance_notices.pl uses this parameters too.
14:21 kf and if you don't - it will output the standard fields. so the example from Joubu above should just work when you put <<items.content>> in the notice
14:20 Joubu peggy: you cant overwrite it with the --itemscontent parameters (script overdue_notices.pl)
14:20 peggy Do I need to put a switch on the cron job? {I have no idea how the cron jobs work}
14:20 kf Joubu: thx :)
14:20 kf ok, for us it outputs the date due and the title, but i know that you can configure the fields as options in the cronjob that generates the notice
14:20 Joubu peggy: items.content is a default field. By default it contents: date_due, title, barcode, author and itemnumber
14:19 kf let me check how it looks in a notice
14:18 kf ok, what is ee is just: <<items.content>>
14:18 peggy Thanks!
14:18 kf let me check our templates
14:17 kf hi peggy
14:17 peggy Can anyone tell me how to use the undocuments items-content feature for predue and due notices?
14:17 tcohen hi druthb
14:16 kf hi druthb :)
14:16 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
14:16 magnuse druthb!
14:14 druthb hi magnuse and tcohen and kf!
14:12 kf hmpf
14:11 magnuse kf: what did you break?
14:08 kf once with wrong encoding
14:08 kf no list of books, and the introduction text twice
14:07 tcohen could you please elaborate?
14:07 kf oh hi tcohen :)
14:06 tcohen hi kf
14:05 huginn kf: The operation succeeded.
14:05 kf @later tell tcohen - there seems to be aproblem with translated cart emails in 3.12 - maybe you coudl check if you see that too?
14:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #115 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:46 * kf grumps about mediawiki
13:45 kf i broke the wiki page
13:45 kf p
13:45 kf hel
13:45 kf magnuse:
13:42 kf magnuse++
13:19 magnuse please feel free to improve: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-11-15_Global_bug_squashing_day
13:10 magnuse that's settled then!
13:09 magnuse wow, the release is... next friday!
13:09 kf sounds good to me
13:09 magnuse this friday?
13:09 magnuse what would be a good date?
13:08 magnuse ouch
13:08 kf we already found some worrysome stuff about the new restrictions and patron editing
13:08 kf yes please
13:06 magnuse we're sort of running out of time...
13:06 magnuse kf and everyone: should we have one more gbsd in time for the 3.14 release?
13:05 kf hi khall :)
12:48 tcohen hi magnuse
12:46 magnuse ¡hola, tcohen!
12:37 wahanui it has been said that morning is a state of cat
12:37 tcohen morning!
12:27 magnuse :-)
12:27 khall mornin magnuse!
12:27 magnuse kia ora khall
11:28 magnuse ah, got it. new indexes have to be added to @indexes in C4::Search too
11:01 magnuse hm, the first problem was that i was messing with the wrong files ona dev install...
10:44 magnuse do the indexes have to be defined somewhere else than ccl.properties?
10:44 magnuse don't think so
10:38 kf typo?
10:36 magnuse gah, why can't i add another synonym for the Author/1=1003 index?
08:54 rangi thanks
08:52 Joubu rangi: yep, I'm on it :)
08:50 rangi its a follow up for 11216
08:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11240 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Adding a restriction does not save the date
08:50 rangi Joubu: can you take a look at bug 11240 too please
08:36 rangi so the count didnt move
08:36 rangi yeah, i signed off one, but that meant i had to make another one
08:30 magnuse "Needs Signoff - 181 58 bugs" gah!
08:11 magnuse i put off looking into sip2 for a loong time, when i did, it was just as weird as i expected...
08:09 rangi heh
08:08 * magnuse thought rangi loved all the library standards ;-)
08:07 rangi did i mention lately i hate SIP2
08:07 rangi evening
07:40 * magnuse wishes cait a good journey in absentia
07:40 cait i better get raeady for work :) later!
07:38 magnuse all the snow melted again here! \o/
07:38 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.30 in 992 hPa (Steady).
07:38 magnuse @wunder boo
07:36 cait oh really getting cold here
07:36 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.7°C (8:35 AM CET on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
07:36 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:36 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
07:36 cait @wunder marseille
07:36 reiveune salut cait, magnuse :)
07:35 cait hi reiveune
07:35 wahanui privet, reiveune
07:35 reiveune hello
07:25 * cait has breakfast too - hi magnuse
07:15 dcook ta magnuse, cait, all
07:15 dcook Ok, home time
07:13 dcook Yeah, I think I should wander off myself...
07:12 * magnuse wanders off again for breakfast
07:12 magnuse hiya dcook
07:12 dcook hey ya magnuse :)
07:10 magnuse \o
06:56 cait hi dcook :)
06:56 dcook hey ya cait
06:42 cait good morning #koha
05:54 papa bye
05:53 Oak later mtompset
05:53 dcook ta, mtompset
05:53 mtompset Have a great day, #koha papa Oak dcook bag etc. :)
05:53 dcook Also, it seems like rangi has a million projects on the go
05:52 dcook What the...when did 4:52pm get here?
05:48 mtompset Greetings, fellow Canadian ( ebegin ). :)
05:39 joels68 Good night guys. Mornig comes quick in these parts.
05:36 joels68 Thanks. My apologies for trying to learn everything at once.
05:29 mtompset Sorry, joels68. But your first step is defined by what you are trying to learn or accomplish.
05:28 Oak hello joels68
05:28 joels68 Hey Oak.
05:28 Oak magnuse
05:28 mtompset Greetings, Oak.
05:28 * Oak waves
05:28 Oak sleep time mtompset :)
05:22 joels68 I'm jumping the gun here. Apologies for my ambition getting ahead of my experience.:-D
05:21 joels68 Let me get some more focus and then I'll ask about testing again.
05:20 joels68 The silence returns.
05:14 joels68 What would you recommend for a first step once I have 3.14 loaded?
05:12 dcook What are you looking to learn, joels68?
05:11 joels68 That script does make it easier. There was a time before that script though.
05:10 joels68 My support vendor does a dev install for prod. I always did prod installs. Stuff is in different directories.
05:10 wahanui hmmm... Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
05:10 dcook Interesting
05:10 dcook O_o
05:10 mtompset Life made easy. :)
05:10 mtompset sudo apt-get install koha-deps koha-perldeps
05:09 mtompset And there you are wrong.
05:09 joels68 Only problems with source are perl dependencies.
05:09 mtompset I agree with dcook. If you're looking to help with development, a git installation is most definitely in order.
05:08 dcook One of the lovely things about using Git is that you can try out all sorts of things without fear of breaking anything
05:08 mtompset joels68: I would honestly suggest trying to do all three kinds of installs. It's great to get an understanding of how the whole installation process works for various contexts.
05:08 dcook Then just checkout the 3.14 beta tag
05:08 dcook Well, if you're looking to learn, I would probably do a dev install
05:07 joels68 No biggie. I'll ask him.
05:07 joels68 I've installed from source many time for tests and demos over the last 4 years. I think I've done packages once.
05:07 dcook joels68: I'm not 100% sure what script rangi was talking about, alas.
05:06 dcook I'm still in the middle of a DSpace install as chores see to come first
05:06 dcook mtompset: Hehe. It's on the list of things to do when I have extra free time
05:06 mtompset dcook: You haven't lived until you've installed all three ways (tarball, git, and packages).
05:05 dcook I've only installed via packages, myself
05:05 dcook Kudos to you for trying an alternative method
05:04 mtompset But, I haven't looked.
05:04 mtompset Not that I know about.
05:04 dcook Good question. I've been on holidays, so I'm out of the loop.
05:04 joels68 No packages yet for 3.14 are there?
05:04 dcook I wonder thought if he talked about updating or restoring?
05:03 joels68 rangi said there is a script to run form the command line to do the updating.
05:03 dcook mtompset: You wouldn't need to with the packages
05:03 mtompset Not to use the web installer to update db?!
05:03 dcook You're using the packages, I imagine?
05:02 dcook Ah, if you have your own virtual machine, you won't need to bother with the sandboxes
05:00 joels68 Yeah, I'm gonna hit the sandbox angle too. So much to learn, so little time.
04:59 joels68 Example: right now I'm installing 3.14 beta on deb 6 virtualbox machine. Once I get my SQLdump from my prod server loaded, which script should I run to update the database? Rangi told me to not use the web installer to update db.
04:58 dcook Over time, you'll get better and better at it
04:58 dcook It's usually as simple as applying a patch, following the test plan that they've listed (usually a series of manual steps to do/things to notice), and then signing off on that patch
04:57 dcook And either use the BibLibre sandboxes or your own box to test them out
04:57 dcook Hmm, in terms of shedding newbieness...I would suggest looking at some of the easier bugs on Bugzilla
04:56 joels68 I wish to shed my newbieness.
04:55 mtompset You could always read up on Test::WWW::Mechanize? and then write your own scripts to do things, and spawn them mindlessly. :)
04:54 joels68 How about other types of tests besides stress?
04:54 mtompset No (no hot topics).
04:54 mtompset No, papa helped me find a bizarre opac-MARCdetails.pl scenario.
04:53 mtompset don't ask me to remember, but yes. ;)
04:52 joels68 mtompset: you were mentioning some things you were working on last night.
04:52 dcook He might be done for the day though
04:52 dcook So he might have some ideas
04:51 dcook Nothing comes to mind, but I think eythian has been looking at that exact topic recently
04:51 joels68 In other words, simulate a lot of activity in circ, reports, etc.
04:51 dcook You mean in terms of measuring its performance?
04:50 joels68 Is there a way to stress Koha with scripts?
04:50 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, dcook
04:50 dcook Awesome!
04:49 joels68 I would really like to learn more about the testing scripts for Koha.
04:49 dcook Hmm except the phone..
04:48 dcook Pretty darned quiet
04:48 * dcook tries to think of something witty, but the silence really speaks for itself
04:48 joels68 Any hot topics tonight?
04:47 dcook hey joels68
04:46 mtompset Greetings, joels68.
04:46 joels68 :)Hello
04:13 bag heya
04:11 druthb hi, bag! :)
04:03 dcook hehe
04:03 JDatTeTakere Home time here too :-)
04:02 wizzyrea and I'm out. LOL. :)
04:02 wizzyrea hallo-a
04:02 JDatTeTakere Hey @wizzyrea
04:02 papa hi, yes
04:01 mtompset papa: You here?
03:58 wizzyrea JDatTeTakere: hey, I've been around!
03:55 dcook It HAS been quiet in here lately
03:53 dcook hey bag
03:52 bag evening
03:29 JDatTeTakere Ahh...there are finally peoples in here. I've been sitting her on my own for half of the afternoon.
03:16 jcamins I feel like something is missing from that bug report.
03:15 mtompset There was a hint of sarcasm in that.
03:14 mtompset I can feel the love.
03:14 druthb hi, mtompset. :)
03:13 dcook Well, now that I've stirred up trouble, I'm gonna eat
03:13 wizzyrea wot?!
03:12 * dcook thinks wizzyrea might be bored today :p
03:12 wizzyrea ooh burn.
03:12 dcook Didn't know that you weren't there already ;)
03:09 mtompset Greetings, wizzyrea dcook druthb. I'm home now.
02:11 druthb nada lotta, here.
02:09 dcook :p
02:09 dcook Shhh
02:09 wizzyrea sup :)
02:09 druthb o/
02:08 wizzyrea so quiet.