Time Nick Message 02:08 wizzyrea so quiet. 02:09 druthb o/ 02:09 wizzyrea sup :) 02:09 dcook Shhh 02:09 dcook :p 02:11 druthb nada lotta, here. 03:09 mtompset Greetings, wizzyrea dcook druthb. I'm home now. 03:12 dcook Didn't know that you weren't there already ;) 03:12 wizzyrea ooh burn. 03:12 * dcook thinks wizzyrea might be bored today :p 03:13 wizzyrea wot?! 03:13 dcook Well, now that I've stirred up trouble, I'm gonna eat 03:14 druthb hi, mtompset. :) 03:14 mtompset I can feel the love. 03:15 mtompset There was a hint of sarcasm in that. 03:16 jcamins I feel like something is missing from that bug report. 03:29 JDatTeTakere Ahh...there are finally peoples in here. I've been sitting her on my own for half of the afternoon. 03:52 bag evening 03:53 dcook hey bag 03:55 dcook It HAS been quiet in here lately 03:58 wizzyrea JDatTeTakere: hey, I've been around! 04:01 mtompset papa: You here? 04:02 papa hi, yes 04:02 JDatTeTakere Hey @wizzyrea 04:02 wizzyrea hallo-a 04:02 wizzyrea and I'm out. LOL. :) 04:03 JDatTeTakere Home time here too :-) 04:03 dcook hehe 04:11 druthb hi, bag! :) 04:13 bag heya 04:46 joels68 :)Hello 04:46 mtompset Greetings, joels68. 04:47 dcook hey joels68 04:48 joels68 Any hot topics tonight? 04:48 * dcook tries to think of something witty, but the silence really speaks for itself 04:48 dcook Pretty darned quiet 04:49 dcook Hmm except the phone.. 04:49 joels68 I would really like to learn more about the testing scripts for Koha. 04:50 dcook Awesome! 04:50 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, dcook 04:50 joels68 Is there a way to stress Koha with scripts? 04:51 dcook You mean in terms of measuring its performance? 04:51 joels68 In other words, simulate a lot of activity in circ, reports, etc. 04:51 dcook Nothing comes to mind, but I think eythian has been looking at that exact topic recently 04:52 dcook So he might have some ideas 04:52 dcook He might be done for the day though 04:52 joels68 mtompset: you were mentioning some things you were working on last night. 04:53 mtompset don't ask me to remember, but yes. ;) 04:54 mtompset No, papa helped me find a bizarre opac-MARCdetails.pl scenario. 04:54 mtompset No (no hot topics). 04:54 joels68 How about other types of tests besides stress? 04:55 mtompset You could always read up on Test::WWW::Mechanize? and then write your own scripts to do things, and spawn them mindlessly. :) 04:56 joels68 I wish to shed my newbieness. 04:57 dcook Hmm, in terms of shedding newbieness...I would suggest looking at some of the easier bugs on Bugzilla 04:57 dcook And either use the BibLibre sandboxes or your own box to test them out 04:58 dcook It's usually as simple as applying a patch, following the test plan that they've listed (usually a series of manual steps to do/things to notice), and then signing off on that patch 04:58 dcook Over time, you'll get better and better at it 04:59 joels68 Example: right now I'm installing 3.14 beta on deb 6 virtualbox machine. Once I get my SQLdump from my prod server loaded, which script should I run to update the database? Rangi told me to not use the web installer to update db. 05:00 joels68 Yeah, I'm gonna hit the sandbox angle too. So much to learn, so little time. 05:02 dcook Ah, if you have your own virtual machine, you won't need to bother with the sandboxes 05:03 dcook You're using the packages, I imagine? 05:03 mtompset Not to use the web installer to update db?! 05:03 dcook mtompset: You wouldn't need to with the packages 05:03 joels68 rangi said there is a script to run form the command line to do the updating. 05:04 dcook I wonder thought if he talked about updating or restoring? 05:04 joels68 No packages yet for 3.14 are there? 05:04 dcook Good question. I've been on holidays, so I'm out of the loop. 05:04 mtompset Not that I know about. 05:04 mtompset But, I haven't looked. 05:05 dcook Kudos to you for trying an alternative method 05:05 dcook I've only installed via packages, myself 05:06 mtompset dcook: You haven't lived until you've installed all three ways (tarball, git, and packages). 05:06 dcook mtompset: Hehe. It's on the list of things to do when I have extra free time 05:06 dcook I'm still in the middle of a DSpace install as chores see to come first 05:07 dcook joels68: I'm not 100% sure what script rangi was talking about, alas. 05:07 joels68 I've installed from source many time for tests and demos over the last 4 years. I think I've done packages once. 05:07 joels68 No biggie. I'll ask him. 05:08 dcook Well, if you're looking to learn, I would probably do a dev install 05:08 dcook Then just checkout the 3.14 beta tag 05:08 mtompset joels68: I would honestly suggest trying to do all three kinds of installs. It's great to get an understanding of how the whole installation process works for various contexts. 05:08 dcook One of the lovely things about using Git is that you can try out all sorts of things without fear of breaking anything 05:09 mtompset I agree with dcook. If you're looking to help with development, a git installation is most definitely in order. 05:09 joels68 Only problems with source are perl dependencies. 05:09 mtompset And there you are wrong. 05:10 mtompset sudo apt-get install koha-deps koha-perldeps 05:10 mtompset Life made easy. :) 05:10 dcook O_o 05:10 dcook Interesting 05:10 wahanui hmmm... Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 05:10 joels68 My support vendor does a dev install for prod. I always did prod installs. Stuff is in different directories. 05:11 joels68 That script does make it easier. There was a time before that script though. 05:12 dcook What are you looking to learn, joels68? 05:14 joels68 What would you recommend for a first step once I have 3.14 loaded? 05:20 joels68 The silence returns. 05:21 joels68 Let me get some more focus and then I'll ask about testing again. 05:22 joels68 I'm jumping the gun here. Apologies for my ambition getting ahead of my experience.:-D 05:28 Oak sleep time mtompset :) 05:28 * Oak waves 05:28 mtompset Greetings, Oak. 05:28 Oak magnuse 05:28 joels68 Hey Oak. 05:28 Oak hello joels68 05:29 mtompset Sorry, joels68. But your first step is defined by what you are trying to learn or accomplish. 05:36 joels68 Thanks. My apologies for trying to learn everything at once. 05:39 joels68 Good night guys. Mornig comes quick in these parts. 05:48 mtompset Greetings, fellow Canadian ( ebegin ). :) 05:52 dcook What the...when did 4:52pm get here? 05:53 dcook Also, it seems like rangi has a million projects on the go 05:53 mtompset Have a great day, #koha papa Oak dcook bag etc. :) 05:53 dcook ta, mtompset 05:53 Oak later mtompset 05:54 papa bye 06:42 cait good morning #koha 06:56 dcook hey ya cait 06:56 cait hi dcook :) 07:10 magnuse \o 07:12 dcook hey ya magnuse :) 07:12 magnuse hiya dcook 07:12 * magnuse wanders off again for breakfast 07:13 dcook Yeah, I think I should wander off myself... 07:15 dcook Ok, home time 07:15 dcook ta magnuse, cait, all 07:25 * cait has breakfast too - hi magnuse 07:35 reiveune hello 07:35 wahanui privet, reiveune 07:35 cait hi reiveune 07:36 reiveune salut cait, magnuse :) 07:36 cait @wunder marseille 07:36 huginn cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CET on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 07:36 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:36 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.7°C (8:35 AM CET on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). 07:36 cait oh really getting cold here 07:38 magnuse @wunder boo 07:38 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.30 in 992 hPa (Steady). 07:38 magnuse all the snow melted again here! \o/ 07:40 cait i better get raeady for work :) later! 07:40 * magnuse wishes cait a good journey in absentia 08:07 rangi evening 08:07 rangi did i mention lately i hate SIP2 08:08 * magnuse thought rangi loved all the library standards ;-) 08:09 rangi heh 08:11 magnuse i put off looking into sip2 for a loong time, when i did, it was just as weird as i expected... 08:30 magnuse "Needs Signoff - 181 58 bugs" gah! 08:36 rangi yeah, i signed off one, but that meant i had to make another one 08:36 rangi so the count didnt move 08:50 rangi Joubu: can you take a look at bug 11240 too please 08:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11240 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Adding a restriction does not save the date 08:50 rangi its a follow up for 11216 08:52 Joubu rangi: yep, I'm on it :) 08:54 rangi thanks 10:36 magnuse gah, why can't i add another synonym for the Author/1=1003 index? 10:38 kf typo? 10:44 magnuse don't think so 10:44 magnuse do the indexes have to be defined somewhere else than ccl.properties? 11:01 magnuse hm, the first problem was that i was messing with the wrong files ona dev install... 11:28 magnuse ah, got it. new indexes have to be added to @indexes in C4::Search too 12:27 magnuse kia ora khall 12:27 khall mornin magnuse! 12:27 magnuse :-) 12:37 tcohen morning! 12:37 wahanui it has been said that morning is a state of cat 12:46 magnuse ¡hola, tcohen! 12:48 tcohen hi magnuse 13:05 kf hi khall :) 13:06 magnuse kf and everyone: should we have one more gbsd in time for the 3.14 release? 13:06 magnuse we're sort of running out of time... 13:08 kf yes please 13:08 kf we already found some worrysome stuff about the new restrictions and patron editing 13:08 magnuse ouch 13:09 magnuse what would be a good date? 13:09 magnuse this friday? 13:09 kf sounds good to me 13:09 magnuse wow, the release is... next friday! 13:10 magnuse that's settled then! 13:19 magnuse please feel free to improve: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/2013-11-15_Global_bug_squashing_day 13:42 kf magnuse++ 13:45 kf magnuse: 13:45 kf hel 13:45 kf p 13:45 kf i broke the wiki page 13:46 * kf grumps about mediawiki 14:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #115 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:05 kf @later tell tcohen - there seems to be aproblem with translated cart emails in 3.12 - maybe you coudl check if you see that too? 14:05 huginn kf: The operation succeeded. 14:06 tcohen hi kf 14:07 kf oh hi tcohen :) 14:07 tcohen could you please elaborate? 14:08 kf no list of books, and the introduction text twice 14:08 kf once with wrong encoding 14:11 magnuse kf: what did you break? 14:12 kf hmpf 14:14 druthb hi magnuse and tcohen and kf! 14:16 magnuse druthb! 14:16 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. 14:16 kf hi druthb :) 14:17 tcohen hi druthb 14:17 peggy Can anyone tell me how to use the undocuments items-content feature for predue and due notices? 14:17 kf hi peggy 14:18 kf let me check our templates 14:18 peggy Thanks! 14:18 kf ok, what is ee is just: <<items.content>> 14:19 kf let me check how it looks in a notice 14:20 Joubu peggy: items.content is a default field. By default it contents: date_due, title, barcode, author and itemnumber 14:20 kf ok, for us it outputs the date due and the title, but i know that you can configure the fields as options in the cronjob that generates the notice 14:20 kf Joubu: thx :) 14:20 peggy Do I need to put a switch on the cron job? {I have no idea how the cron jobs work} 14:20 Joubu peggy: you cant overwrite it with the --itemscontent parameters (script overdue_notices.pl) 14:21 kf and if you don't - it will output the standard fields. so the example from Joubu above should just work when you put <<items.content>> in the notice 14:22 Joubu peggy: advance_notices.pl uses this parameters too. 14:22 peggy This will make my patrons unbelievably happy! 14:23 kf maybe we shoud file abug to fix the default notices templates 14:23 kf so it's more obvious that koha can do that 14:24 peggy Thanks kf and Joubu! 14:34 ebegin @wunder montreal, quebec 14:34 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -6.0°C (9:00 AM EST on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 14:34 ebegin it gets colder now... :( 14:38 kf @wunder Konstanz 14:38 huginn kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 6.2°C (3:35 PM CET on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). 14:39 kf yeah heretoo,but tnot that cold yet 14:39 druthb @wunder 77098 14:39 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Morningside Place, Houston, Texas is 4.5°C (8:32 AM CST on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: -999%. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Rising). 14:39 * druthb pulled out a sweater this morning, for the first time since she moved here. 14:41 magnuse @wunder boo 14:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (3:20 PM CET on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Rising). 14:47 kf hm about the cart - i found the bug 14:47 kf 10605 14:47 kf bug 10605 14:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10605 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Problems with translated cart email sent from OPAC 15:00 reiveune bye 15:06 * druthb reads the scrollback, and realizes that it is slightly colder in Houston this morning than it is in Norway, and cries. 15:10 nengard :( 15:10 nengard @wunder 78741 15:10 huginn nengard: The current temperature in East Cesar Chavez, Austin, Texas is 4.9°C (9:10 AM CST on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.68 in 1039 hPa (Rising). 15:10 nengard here too ... 15:13 oleonard @wunder 45701 15:13 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Windy Ridge, Athens, Ohio is 0.7°C (10:13 AM EST on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady). 15:15 * kf offers hot tea 15:20 blou @wunder austin 15:20 huginn blou: Error: No such location could be found. 15:21 blou @wunder austin,tx 15:21 huginn blou: The current temperature in Waller Beach, Austin, Texas is 5.3°C (9:15 AM CST on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.69 in 1039 hPa (Rising). 15:37 nengard blou are you in austin? 15:51 kf tcohen++ 16:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #115: SUCCESS in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/115/ 16:01 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10617 - koha-common init script cleanup 16:01 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10622: add --sip and --nosip switches to koha-list 16:01 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 10622 - [SIGNED OFF] Followup: Add --sip, --nosip and --help to man page 16:01 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10622: (follow-up) uppercase "SIP" in documentation and help text 16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10617 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Init script cleanup 16:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10622 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Add --sip and --nosip switches to koha-list 16:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #116 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:35 tcohen bug 9299 16:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9299 major, P3, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Master , for loop in Auth_with_ldap.pm requires an extended patron attribute to be set or LDAP logins fail 16:35 tcohen is anyone around involved with this patch? 16:55 kf we confirmed the problemn in 3.12.6 16:55 kf but not more than that i am afraid 16:55 kf have to run - bye all 18:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #116: FAILURE in 2 hr 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/116/ 18:28 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 7813: Ability to delete local cover images 18:28 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7813: (follow-up) improvements for deleting local cover images 18:28 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7813: (follow-up) use descriptive text for delete link 18:28 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10888: Don't hide authorities module from users who lack permission to edit authorities 18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7813 enhancement, P3, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Add ability to delete local cover images 18:28 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10305 - _increment_barcode is called twice 18:28 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10847: Open link to vendor's website in new window 18:28 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10465: remove useless reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT files 18:28 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10911: fix invalid links when displaying records that have 880 fields 18:28 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10924: fix updating contact note from OPAC 18:28 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10803: make "Make payment" in circ easier to translate 18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10888 normal, P5 - low, ---, paola.rossi, Pushed to Stable , Don't hide authorities module from users without permission to edit authorities 18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10305 trivial, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , _increment_barcode is called twice 18:28 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10687: Delete erroneous tags 68a and 68b on default MARC21 auth framework 18:28 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10687: (follow-up) remove authority 68a/68b tags from translated MARC21 framework scripts 18:28 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10687: DBRev 3.12.06.001 18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10847 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Open external link to website of a vendor in new tab/window 18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10465 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , Reference to fields 780 and 785 in UNIMARC XSLT should be removed 18:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #117 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #115 4 hr 23 min ago) 18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10911 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Records with 880 fields have broken details links in intranet search results using XSLT. 18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10924 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Contact note not updating via opac 18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10803 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , "Make payment" in circ is not easily translatable 18:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10687 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Stable , Delete erroneous tags 68a and 68b on default MARC21 auth framework 18:29 tcohen i (almost unintentionally) killed it, no worries 18:51 rangi tcohen: does the 3.12.x followup patch on bug 10663 need a signoff, or is it fine (ie should we obsolete the other patches and set that bug to needs signoff?) 18:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10663 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Holds never block renewals 18:52 rangi never mind, i see its already applied 18:56 cait unit tests were failing 18:57 cait because we miss some other changes from feature patches 18:57 cait so i think he did a follow up for that 18:58 cait he talked to me earlier :) 19:01 rangi :) 19:01 rangi cool 19:02 tcohen hi rangi 19:03 tcohen have two questions for u 19:03 tcohen both related to making jenkins_koha more useful :-D 19:04 bag @wunder 93102 19:04 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 28.4°C (11:03 AM PST on November 13, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 19:04 bag not bad eh oleonard ? 19:04 tcohen 1) some patch moved t/ILSDI_Services.t tests to db_dependent, cover tests still complain about that missing 19:04 tcohen 2) how can we set two different db's for 3.12.x and master? 19:05 tcohen (in Bernardo's node) 19:12 rangi tcohen: different config files 19:12 rangi master is not running on bernardos node though 19:12 rangi but if you wanted a 3.10.x for example, you would make a 3.10.x database 19:12 tcohen weird 19:13 rangi and a config file for it, and then the tests would run using that config 19:13 rangi master runs on the master jenkins 19:13 rangi maria_master runs on galens 19:13 rangi master_install runs on bernardos, but that isnt really in use yet 19:13 tcohen every while the tests fail because the column wthdrawn is not present 19:13 tcohen that happens when a master db is loaded 19:14 rangi ill switch the the master_install one off 19:14 tcohen i might instead generate a koha-dev-312 dir 19:14 tcohen pointing to another db 19:14 rangi also there is nothing in the cover telling it to run the ILSDI_Services.t 19:14 rangi that wont make any difference, the dir makes no difference only the config file 19:15 rangi it does a git checkout and runs from that 19:15 rangi disbaled master_install 19:15 rangi so that wont be getting in the way now 19:15 tcohen ok, maybe cover has a database of previously passed scripts 19:15 rangi yeah that could be it 19:16 tcohen "Devel::Cover: Can't open t/ILSDI_Services.t for MD5 digest: No such file or directory" 19:16 rangi maybe rm the cover_db dir 19:16 rangi that will make it start fresh 19:16 * rangi gotta take the kids to school 19:16 tcohen I see it 19:16 tcohen thanks! 19:18 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #117: STILL FAILING in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/117/ 19:18 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10663: (3.12.x followup) Rewrite some calls as unit tests rely on newer API 19:18 jenkins_koha * Srdjan: Bug 9299: fix LDAP login breakage when ExtendedPatronAttributes is on 19:18 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10925: fix LDAP auth failing if DEBUG is enabled 19:18 jenkins_koha * Ketan Kulkarni: Bug 10967: fix minor POD error 19:18 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 5645: improve converting simple search to Z39.50 search 19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10663 critical, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Holds never block renewals 19:18 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10948: make reference labels translatable in OPAC auth results 19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9299 major, P3, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Stable , for loop in Auth_with_ldap.pm requires an extended patron attribute to be set or LDAP logins fail 19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10925 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , LDAP Auth fails if DEBUG is enable 19:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #118 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #115 5 hr 13 min ago) 19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10967 trivial, P5 - low, ---, ketan, Pushed to Stable , POD ERROR in acqui/booksellers.pl 19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5645 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Z39.50 search from search results not parsing query correctly 19:18 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10948 normal, P5 - low, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Stable , Some strings in the authority result list turned out untranslatable 19:21 tcohen jenkins_koha: happy building this time please 19:21 jenkins_koha tcohen did you mean me? Unknown command 'happy' 19:21 jenkins_koha Use '!jenkins help' to get help! 19:43 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 19:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #118: FIXED in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/118/ 19:46 tcohen only 25 minutes? 19:46 tcohen i knew there was something wrong with the cover db! 19:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #119 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FIXED) 20:16 tcohen bye #koha 20:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #119: SUCCESS in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/119/ 20:19 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 7764: rework the INSTALL.ubuntu instructions 20:19 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7764: (follow-up) editorial tweaks 20:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7764 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , INSTALL.ubuntu needs to be updated 20:25 rangi ah ha, ill make it clean up the cover_db after the build run 20:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #120 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:42 cait hmm 20:42 cait i am having problems opening the cart in the bootstrap theme 20:42 cait can someone confirm? 20:42 cait i have searched, put my records into the cart, it shows 3 items... but it won't open the window 20:48 cait noone? 20:48 wahanui noone is, like, here 20:49 cait bootstrap? 20:49 wahanui an up to date demo of the Bootstrap OPAC can be found at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz - it's tracking from oleonard's branch bootstrap-opac on gitorious. Bug reports should be filed on bug 10309. 20:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap 20:49 pianohacker hallo 20:49 druthb herro, pianohacker! 20:50 cait hi pianohacker 20:50 cait could you check something for me? 20:50 oleonard It seems to be working for me cait 20:50 cait oleonard: it doesn't work for me, neither on my local maser nor on the mykoha one 20:50 pianohacker cait: what's up? 20:50 pianohacker and hi druthb 20:51 cait pianohacker: i have problems with the cart window not opening in current master and bootstrap - were wondering if someone else has the problem 20:51 cait oleonard: which browser are you using? 20:51 oleonard Works for me on the mykoha site too. Do you have JavaScript disabled? 20:51 oleonard Firefox 20:52 cait oleonard: i will check that, firefox here too 20:52 cait the tooltip shows 20:52 cait but the window doesn't open 20:52 cait when i click on cart, it says: items in your cart: 2 20:53 cait ugh. 20:53 cait i need to click on that 20:53 cait lol 20:53 cait i thought it was just a note like we used to have, didn#t get it was a menu 20:54 oleonard Yeah that change was necessary to make it more touch-friendly 20:55 eythian hi 20:55 wahanui bidet, eythian 21:14 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 21:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #120: FAILURE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/120/ 21:19 edveal Does anyone know of a good z39.50 target for finding textbooks specifically Canadian textbooks? I know about irspy.com just not sure where to start there. 21:20 bag edveal: have you looked at amicus (I think that's the name and I think it's canadian) 21:21 bag oh whoops edveal I see that you've already tried amicus 21:21 bag :P 21:22 edveal Yes and not having any luck there either 21:22 edveal I am afraid the problem is that they are textbooks 21:46 rangi @later tell tcohen http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/120/clover/ <-- i got nicer coverage reports running 21:46 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 21:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #121 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #119 1 hr 58 min ago) 21:49 eythian rangi: oh, that's really good 21:51 cait looks 21:51 eythian C4::Utils a) needs test cases, b) they're probably easy to write. Might be a good project for someone wanting to get started. 21:51 cait i am not sure i want to look what is hiding in there 21:52 rangi *nod* 21:53 cait oh lots of mails from eythian on the mailing list :) 21:54 eythian yeah, my day for tech support I guess :) 22:02 mtompset Like joel68? 22:02 mtompset Hmmm... I just grabbed the Filipino po file, and it contained armenian. 22:03 mtompset I guess no one really checks these things, huh? :) 22:03 mtompset http://translate.koha-community.org/fil/314/tl-PH-pref.po/translate/#filter=translated 22:03 rangi it was probably generated from the armenian one at the start 22:04 rangi ages ago 22:04 rangi no one has really been translating it much 22:04 mtompset I'm going to try to convince my librarian colleague to take up the mantle. :) 22:04 rangi or at all 22:04 rangi http://translate.koha-community.org/fil/ 22:05 rangi we used to have tagalog too 22:05 rangi dunno where that went 22:06 mtompset Perhaps someone moved the Tagalog one to Filipino? 22:06 mtompset Because technically Tagalog is mostly a subset a Filipino. 22:06 mtompset of Filipino. 22:06 cait i think some are not present currently 22:06 cait because not enough left to really start from - but not sure 22:06 rangi could be 22:19 mtompset rangi: How did you generate that coverage report? 22:20 rangi clover 22:20 mtompset That's not what I meant... 22:20 mtompset For example t/Newschannels.t 22:20 mtompset What is it included under? 22:21 rangi nothing 22:21 rangi you dont test coverage of tests 22:21 rangi you test what code your tests cover 22:21 pianohacker hah, I love it. C4::Koha is so old and crusty it's not even in the report 22:21 mtompset Yes, but it "tests" (can you use it?) C4::NewsChannels. 22:21 rangi yes 22:21 mtompset Where is C4::NewsChannels? 22:22 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/120/clover/C4/C4/NewsChannels.pm/ 22:23 mtompset Okay... So, then how does it calculate the coverage? 22:23 mtompset There is only 1 .t file that I know of, and it only has a use_ok. 22:25 rangi undoubtedly some other code uses a method in there 22:25 rangi and when its tested that is called 22:27 mtompset some other koha code or testing code? 22:28 rangi koha code 22:28 rangi or it would be a kinda pointless .pm eh 22:29 mtompset True. :) 22:30 rangi so if you test somethign that in turns calls it, it gets covered by a test 22:30 rangi ideally you test it at a lower level too 22:31 rangi but at least you are testing that stuff that depends on it, isnt exploding, ie if someone broke the method with a syntax error, the test would fail, so theres at least that much coverage 22:32 mtompset Okay. I just use NewsChannels as an example, because of the bug I'm working on. :) 22:32 rangi cool 22:32 mtompset Testing coverage will be going up. :) 22:32 rangi excellent 22:32 rangi i plan to make builds fail, if coverage goes down 22:32 rangi when i get around to it 22:33 mtompset Okay... next question for the general channel. What's the best way to force an option to be visible and selected in a dropdown upon loading? As far as I can tell, I have to have it as the first item added in the drop down. 22:34 rangi nope, just set the selected attribute thingy 22:35 mtompset I thought I did, and it didn't become first. 22:35 mtompset I mean visible. 22:35 mtompset as in selected single item shown. 22:35 pianohacker mtompset: If you've been editing the page bit-by-bit, do a force-reload (Ctrl-Shift-R) 22:35 rangi <option value="value2" selected>Value 2</option> 22:35 mtompset selected, not selected="selected"? 22:36 pianohacker mtompset: yup 22:36 pianohacker html5++ 22:36 mtompset well, let's give that a whirl. That would totally simplify my patch, which I'd like. 22:39 dcook mornin' 22:40 cait dcook is here... guess that's my clue to go to bed :) 22:40 cait night all :) 22:40 mtompset Greetings, dcook. :) 22:40 mtompset Greetings, pianohacker. :) 22:41 pianohacker hey mtompset 22:41 wahanui i think mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. 22:41 dcook Oh, I drove cait away 22:41 dcook hey mtompset and pianohacker 22:41 mtompset Join with a different name initially next time. :P 22:42 dcook I'll catch her in the morning :p 22:42 dcook Err, her morning 22:46 dcook Huh...I never noticed that you can't delete an authorized value category from the UI 22:46 dcook At least not in 3.8 22:47 mrx Hi everyone, how to update nth character in leader? 22:47 pianohacker mrx: From SQL, or how do you mean? 22:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #121: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/121/ 22:49 eythian dcook: you delete all the values and the category vanishes 22:49 dcook eythian: How do you mean vanishes? 22:50 dcook In the Authorized Value section, it would say "There are no authorized values defined for X" 22:50 mrx no like as it can be done normally for other fields, field->update(); 22:50 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/121/clover/ 22:50 rangi now doing nice graphs so we can watch it increase :) 22:50 eythian dcook: it probably says that until you navigate out of that screen 22:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #122 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #119 3 hr 0 min ago) 22:51 pianohacker mrx: You'd probably have to manually set it using substr and $record->leader() 22:52 dcook eythian: Doesn't seem like it. At least not for Asort1,Asort2,Bsort1,Bsort2 22:52 mrx pianohacker: oh ok, so something like $record->leader() = new substring.. will work? 22:53 dcook eythian: Hmm, might be a new behaviour 22:53 eythian dcook: oh, you're right. I had it in my head that having no values meant the authorised value didn't exist. 22:53 eythian try it on a custom one perhaps, maybe they're hard-coded to exist? 22:53 eythian (just guessing though.) 22:53 dcook eythian: Well, I just tried creating a category and value on master, and when I deleted the value, the category did disappear 22:54 dcook Yeah, looks like they must be hardcoded to exist 22:54 dcook Makes a certain amount of sense, I suppose. I don't know why a person would really want to delete Bsort1,Bsort2 22:54 pianohacker mrx: ah, more like: my $leader = $record->leader(); substr($leader, $offset, 1) = ' '; $record->leader($leader); 22:55 pianohacker where $offset is the offset of the part you want to change, 1 is its length, and the bit in quotes is what you want to put there 23:02 mrx thanks heaps, I'm still too new to koha and yea kind of a newbie query.. 23:03 pianohacker you're dealing with Perl and MARC, both of which can be pretty hostile to newbies. happy to help 23:05 dcook The leader is especially sensitive as well. 23:06 dcook When MARC records seem to be having a fit for no particular reason, I find that it's often because of some bad leader data. 23:07 mrx totally agreed, getting the feeling now :) 23:14 mrx another trivial query may be, what will be the best way to check indicators for a field? Again using MARC::Record 23:26 dcook mrx: http://search.cpan.org/~gmcharlt/MARC-Record-2.0.3/lib/MARC/Field.pm#indicator(indno) 23:26 dcook I think that might answer your question 23:32 bag dcook: you carrying porn in your backpack again? 23:33 dcook Apparently! 23:33 dcook I was rather surprised when I opened my bag 23:34 dcook It was actually a boxing flyer for the gym :p 23:34 dcook Wife and I are thinking of taking it 23:34 dcook Hopefully for fun/fitness rather than conflict resolution... 23:34 bag the porn or the boxing? 23:34 bag ;) :P 23:35 bag I vote for THE fun 23:38 dcook lol 23:38 dcook The boxing :p 23:38 dcook Surely there must be a crossover of both.. 23:57 wizzyrea ...awkward 23:57 wizzyrea j/k, funny ;)